West Asian calc for Balkanites

[Jana]

Made a calc where west Asian samples are used togheder with Slavic and West Med proxies as I am curious what will algorith select for our Balkan users:


"Polish",0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0406754 ,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
"Belarusian",0.1322625,0.1236239,0.0750219,0.0695957,0.0402331 ,0.0265691,0.0107321,0.0133226,-0.0002727,-0.0246017,-0.0026957,-0.0092119,0.0193259,0.0272309,-0.0112647,-0.0038009,-0.0009647,0.0003717,0.0041397,-0.0010504,-0.0042342,-0.0046081,0.0077235,-0.0068601,0.0006946
"Sardinian",0.1216872,0.1672855,0.0284897,-0.0506523,0.060151,-0.0221337,-0.0039523,0.0024964,0.0415743,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.0166487,-0.0286645,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.0030013,0.0114027,-0.0013475,0.0016798,-0.0129947,-0.0021212,-0.0011018,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.0003375
"Armenian_Ararat",0.1030434,0.13632,-0.0593855,-0.061959,-0.0268828,-0.0173405,0.0042853,-0.0045201,-0.0281762,-0.0034302,0.0030473,0.0033323,-0.0027022,0.0025096,-0.0055247,-0.0017939,0.0009204,0.001319,0.0039485,-0.0044507,0.0002348,0.0040441,-0.0012615,-0.0002693,0.0012115
"Cypriot",0.1010858,0.1466231,-0.0350541,-0.0685837,-0.0032825,-0.0231878,-0.0002686,-0.003967,-0.0017238,0.0167919,0.0032091,0.0013131,0.0005663, 0.0024969,-0.0125056,0.0002841,0.0051099,0.000555,0.0032203,-0.002257,-0.002151,0.0011953,-0.0015436,0.0026681,-0.000998
"Circassian",0.1093966,0.0846274,-0.0230463,-0.0184469,-0.0328608,-3.1e-05,0.0069719,-0.0018462,-0.0494948,-0.0240754,-0.0018766,0.0063942,-0.014387,0.0028441,0.0021112,-0.0161907,0.0040562,-0.004617,-0.0090504,0.0151323,0.005213,0.0016763,0.0003014,-0.0089837,-0.0013837
"Chechen",0.1126848,0.1046673,-0.0303709,-0.0085272,-0.0357603,0.0067863,0.0083975,-0.0049075,-0.0559167,-0.0326081,-0.0020137,0.0082226,-0.0167193,-0.0061197,0.0104957,-0.0090868,0.0057369,-0.0064273,-0.0089915,0.0130979,0.0030863,0.0023907,0.0039356, 0.0062979,-0.0046541
"Georgian_Laz",0.1100922,0.1386763,-0.0571549,-0.0583553,-0.0318008,-0.0112177,0.0087997,-0.0056537,-0.0501651,-0.0105697,0.0027967,0.0094498,-0.017542,0.0044269,-0.0039661,-0.0140766,0.0107784,-0.0014006,-0.0032542,0.0098937,0.0073273,0.0022258,-0.0002464,-0.0072699,-0.0011442
"Greek_Cappadocia",0.1110913,0.1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
"Ossetian",0.1079422,0.0986757,-0.0370835,-0.0265937,-0.0358017,-0.002138,0.008656,-0.0023847,-0.0621072,-0.0284895,-0.0026797,0.0096667,-0.0220513,0.0044497,0.0042073,-0.0212585,0.003868,-0.0057853,-0.0130307,0.0169038,0.0091712,0.0001853,-0.0021568,-0.0102825,-0.0001397
"Lebanese_Druze",0.0841153,0.1404478,-0.0496667,-0.070091,-0.0156642,-0.0251838,-0.0024205,-0.0053304,-0.0023112,0.0075992,0.0051477,-0.0030274,0.009083,0.0020232,-0.0068675,0.0061655,-0.0020861,0.0008361,0.0024761,-0.000913,-0.0013225,0.0019414,0.0002465,0.0025182,-0.0005866
"Syrian",0.0647593,0.1259791,-0.0488273,-0.060962,-0.0190156,-0.0195664,-0.0032034,-0.0024897,-0.0016685,-0.0018415,0.0023845,-0.0054188,0.0109304,0.0005794,-0.0027502,0.0051012,-0.0038155,-0.0006535,0.0020773,0.0003554,0.0015368,0.0001432,-0.0023935,-0.0007419,6.2e-06
"Palestinian",0.0455292,0.134253,-0.0473285,-0.0780045,-0.0126482,-0.0297299,-0.0062276,-0.0019845,0.0167504,-0.0003096,0.0081843,-0.0096364,0.0203072,-0.0013211,-0.00095,0.0097452,-0.0020079,-0.001761,8.81e-05,0.0025387,0.0011356,0.0052801,-0.0001603,0.0023977,0.001844

My result with 23andme based coords::

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0298% / 0.02978357

71.3 Polish
18.2 Sardinian
10.5 Chechen

and with myHeritage based coords:

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0274% / 0.02741548

77.7 Polish
13.8 Sardinian
8.5 Georgian_Laz

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.6461% / 0.01646139
45.8 Belarusian
19.6 Polish
15.4 Sardinian
13.6 Cypriot
4.0 Circassian
1.6 Chechen


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.7317% / 0.01731702 | R3P
65.8 Belarusian
20.6 Cypriot
13.6 Sardinian

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler
Distance: 3.0673% / 0.03067269
36.6 Belarusian
26.2 Syrian
19.6 Chechen
17.2 Sardinian
0.4 Circassian

Target: Father
Distance: 3.5283% / 0.03528262
27.4 Belarusian
27.0 Syrian
18.8 Circassian
14.4 Chechen
12.4 Sardinian

[Jana]

results for friends and family:
https://i.imgur.com/YpLCqkv.png

result for son of a friend, with Bangladeshi sample added:

Target: Noah_scaled
Distance: 0.0240% / 0.02400183

51.7 Bengali_Bangladesh_Sylhet
29.2 Belarusian
11.9 Sardinian
5.4 Circassian
1.8 Palestinian

my half German grandaunt, with western Euro sample added:

Target: Grandaunt_scaled
Distance: 0.0188% / 0.01877368

57.2 French_Alsace
25.3 Belarusian
14.3 Cypriot
3.2 Sardinian

[alexmegas777]

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.3059% / 0.02305879
51.8 Polish
22.4 Sardinian
11.6 Cypriot
8.4 Greek_Cappadocia
5.8 Chechen

[noricum]

I just had Pizza with Ketchup on top, so I can participate in this.

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.4991% / 0.02499092
56.0 Polish
23.0 Belarusian
15.4 Sardinian
5.6 Greek_Cappadocia

[Ylla]

Distance: 2.7262% / 0.02726232
31.2 Greek_Cappadocia
28.4 Sardinian
19.0 Belarusian
11.2 Polish
10.2 Cypriot

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.7296% / 0.00729598
24.4 Armenian_Ararat
23.6 Belarusian
22.2 Cypriot
16.2 Circassian
9.0 Georgian_Laz
2.8 Chechen
1.8 Sardinian

[Figaro]

My mother's result just out of curiosity-

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.8343% / 0.01834306
85.6 Polish
8.2 Sardinian
5.0 Chechen
1.2 Palestinian

[Beowulf]

I'm not from the balkans but i wanted to try it:


I added a Iberian sample

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.9799% / 0.00979927
89.4 Iberian_Penninsula
8.8 Polish
1.2 Chechen
0.6 Sardinian

and my grandmother:


Target: Abuela
Distance: 1.7556% / 0.01755580
55.6 Iberian_Penninsula
28.4 Polish
16.0 Palestinian

[gixajo]

Just with the sources posted by the OP.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.5101% / 0.03510074
52.2 Sardinian
41.6 Polish
6.2 Chechen

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.3140% / 0.03313954
53.8 Sardinian
35.2 Polish
8.6 Palestinian
2.4 Chechen

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 4.2606% / 0.04260633
49.8 Sardinian
48.8 Polish
1.4 Chechen


Adding a Spanish reference(Castilla_y_León+Castilla_la_Mancha).
Spanish,0.111641,0.14594,0.040415,-0.002692,0.042944,-0.001476,-0.001714,0.003173,0.026537,0.03158,-0.002219,0.008268,-0.013683,-0.012202,0.01127,-0.003801,-0.006405,-0.000961,-0.002325,-0.00149,0.002875,0.000288,0.000134,-0.003228,-0.001916


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8879% / 0.01887897
81.8 Spanish
10.0 Polish
8.2 Sardinian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8873% / 0.01887335
80.8 Spanish
14.4 Sardinian
2.8 Polish
1.2 Palestinian
0.8 Lebanese_Druze

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.4964% / 0.02496414
91.6 Spanish
8.4 Belarusian

[Impaler]

I added Roma sample for my father:

Target: Impaler_Father
Distance: 2.3975% / 0.02397501
40.2 Roma_Balkans
28.6 Belarusian
13.2 Sardinian
11.2 Armenian_Ararat
6.8 Ossetian

Target: Impaler_Father(simulated)
Distance: 0.8960% / 0.00895976
37.6 Roma_Balkans
19.4 Polish
12.2 Cypriot
9.6 Belarusian
9.2 Georgian_Laz
5.0 Sardinian
3.8 Chechen
3.2 Armenian_Ararat

[RyoHazuki]

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 4.2350% / 0.04234970
71.8 Polish
24.4 Sardinian
3.8 Chechen

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 5.9971% / 0.05997138
71.8 Polish
20.4 Sardinian
7.8 Chechen

[oszkar07]

just for fun

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.2062% / 0.03206218
77.2 Polish
16.4 Sardinian
6.4 Chechen

[Occiput in Starlight]

Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.1083% / 0.01108349
56.8 Polish
16.4 Greek_Cappadocia
15.8 Sardinian
6.6 Belarusian
4.4 Georgian_Laz

[Dušan]

Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.1083% / 0.01108349
56.8 Polish
16.4 Greek_Cappadocia
15.8 Sardinian
6.6 Belarusian
4.4 Georgian_Laz

What result do you get if use reduce 3 population option?

[Hulu]

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.9221% / 0.02922128
48.6 Cypriot
25.6 Sardinian
12.6 Belarusian
12.6 Polish
0.6 Georgian_Laz

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.9250% / 0.02924990 | R3P
48.8 Cypriot
26.6 Polish
24.6 Sardinian

[Occiput in Starlight]

What result do you get if use reduce 3 population option?

Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.1174% / 0.01117363 | R3P
64.2 Polish
21.6 Greek_Cappadocia
14.2 Sardinian

[alnortedelsur]

I'm not Balkan, but just for fun:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.2425% / 0.03242523
43.0 Sardinian
26.8 Polish
11.0 Chechen
7.0 Yukpa
6.6 Palestinian
5.6 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.3140% / 0.03313955 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.2 Sardinian
29.0 Polish
12.2 Syrian
7.0 Yukpa
5.4 SSA
5.2 Circassian

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.3371% / 0.03337096 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.0 Sardinian
30.8 Polish
16.8 Syrian
7.2 Yukpa
5.2 SSA



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.12308963 Cypriot
0.12590760 Syrian
0.12779922 Polish
0.12822910 Sardinian
0.13064764 Greek_Cappadocia
0.13251580 Lebanese_Druze
0.13447683 Circassian
0.13849812 Palestinian
0.14230616 Belarusian
0.14363478 Chechen
0.14670975 Armenian_Ararat
0.15044557 Ossetian
0.15896214 Georgian_Laz
0.64661427 Yukpa
0.71075688 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo

[Dušan]

Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.1174% / 0.01117363 | R3P
64.2 Polish
21.6 Greek_Cappadocia
14.2 Sardinian

Quite similar, but slightly different. :)
Almost same percentages of proto-Slav (Pole or Belarusian) and Mediterranean genetics.

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.7317% / 0.01731702 | R3P
65.8 Belarusian
20.6 Cypriot
13.6 Sardinian

[Occiput in Starlight]

Quite similar, but slightly different. :)
Almost same percentages of proto-Slav (Pole or Belarusian) and Mediterranean genetics.

Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.7317% / 0.01731702 | R3P
65.8 Belarusian
20.6 Cypriot
13.6 Sardinian

Yeah I noticed that too. Pretty cool.

[CommonSense]

Target: CommonSense_illustrativeDNA
Distance: 2.8700% / 0.02870042
62.6 Polish
18.6 Sardinian
10.2 Georgian_Laz
8.6 Chechen

Target: CommonSense_simulated
Distance: 0.7647% / 0.00764696
48.6 Polish
15.8 Greek_Cappadocia
14.4 Sardinian
14.2 Belarusian
6.4 Chechen
0.6 Cypriot

[Jana]

Target: CommonSense_illustrativeDNA
Distance: 2.8700% / 0.02870042
62.6 Polish
18.6 Sardinian
10.2 Georgian_Laz
8.6 Chechen

Target: CommonSense_simulated
Distance: 0.7647% / 0.00764696
48.6 Polish
15.8 Greek_Cappadocia
14.4 Sardinian
14.2 Belarusian
6.4 Chechen
0.6 Cypriot

Your result with Illustrative DNA is close to mine :) . Are those your real coords?

[meliton]

Target: Meliton_scaled
Distance: 2.9177% / 0.02917679
73.4 Polish
16.6 Palestinian
5.8 Circassian
4.2 Sardinian

[CommonSense]

Your result with Illustrative DNA is close to mine :) . Are those your real coords?

Yes, they're real. I only obtained them about three months ago. The results I get with them are mostly similar to the ones I get with my simulated coordinates and for some reason in both cases I get noticeably more Slavic admixture than on Eurogenes K13 and other gedmatch calculators.

[Voskos]

I was wondering anybody knows how Illustrative give people G25 coordinates? Do they have the license from Davidski or ? They seem to be based in Estonia.

[retfala]

Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 1.0435% / 0.01043530
55.0 Polish
25.8 Cypriot
13.0 Sardinian
5.6 Belarusian
0.6 Circassian

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.2404% / 0.02240408
96.8 Spanish_Andalucia
3.2 Polish

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.7474% / 0.02747386
92.6 Spanish_Andalucia
7.4 Polish

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 1.6006% / 0.01600592
93.2 Polish
5.2 Sardinian ;)
1.6 Chechen

[kingmob]

Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 2.1107% / 0.02110713
37.4 Cypriot
35.6 Georgian_Laz
20.4 Belarusian
6.6 Sardinian

[Ritz06]

Target:
Distance: 3.3044% / 0.03304429
40.0 Chechen
33.8 Polish
13.0 Sardinian
8.0 Circassian
5.2 Syrian

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.2002% / 0.02200185
63.4 Belarusian
19.2 Sardinian
12.2 Greek_Cappadocia
4.0 Georgian_Laz
1.2 Ossetian


Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.2132% / 0.02213171 | R3P
63.8 Belarusian
18.6 Greek_Cappadocia
17.6 Sardinian