My AncestryDNA Results

[calxpal]

My results

https://i.ibb.co/pr7gHNy/ancestryres.png

https://i.ibb.co/JxGN8bS/chromoancestry.png

https://i.ibb.co/3Fg8MXm/ancestrypinheritance.png

Also "hacked" results as a bonus

https://i.ibb.co/BfP34fy/hackresults.png

Also got one community

https://i.ibb.co/mGmfGwV/community.png

Feel free to share your thoughts or ask questions, just don't be rude please.

If you're interested in doing the hack I can try and explain how on here.

I also have a thread for my 23andme results as well if you're interested in comparing the two.

[calxpal]

I would like to mention that I want to give a reminder that these results are estimates and that AncestryDNA is not necessarily better than all the other tests. I feel like I shouldn't even have to post this but I've had problems recently with people accusing me of lying about my background or hating my Ancestry results because I don't believe they are as accurate as they could be. These results do NOT necessarily mean I don't have Irish Ancestry or that my French Canadian grandfather must not be fully French Canadian. Please do not take these results wwwaayyy to literally.

Like sorry but other people do not know my background better than I do based on ethnicity estimates. I do not have recent Scandinavian ancestry based on these results I know this from my tree and I definitely do have an Irish great grandparent plus other Irish great-great+ grandparents in my tree despite what the results say. And the lack of genetic groups do not discount the fact that I have somewhat recent European ancestry.

This comment is just in general, not directed at anyone specific lol.

Of course I know that multiple factors contribute to this like reference populations, random inheritance, algorithms, and others. And 23andme has It's own flaws as well.

I imagine no ones going to reply to this lol but I just have been frustrated with discussing these results with some people recently.

I did want to say though it seems like a 2023 update is in the works :) some people have been able to hack their results to 2023 now!

[RyoHazuki]

How did you find the hack?

[nittionia]

How did you find the hack?

Follow this: https://www.reddit.com/r/AncestryDNA/comments/130cib8/dna_hack_instructions/

Just change 2022 to 2023. It worked for me, but it doesn't work for everyone

[calxpal]

How did you find the hack?

Hello I'll try my best to explain it =)

Go to this URL first: https://www.ancestry.com/dna/origins/inheritance/api/v1/ethnicities/PASTECODEHERE/chromosomes?version=2022


But first get the code which is the long string of number and letters and dashes in the URL on the page where you view your ethnicity estimate, and put it into the "PASTE CODE HERE" section

Once you paste the code in the URL and refresh the page you should see the output

Change the 2022 in the URL to 2023 to try the new hack

If you want to see the full hacked results paste the output from that URL into this website: https://dnplay.github.io/ancestrydna

As a note you need to be logged into your Ancestry.com account for it to work.

[calxpal]

Follow this: https://www.reddit.com/r/AncestryDNA/comments/130cib8/dna_hack_instructions/

Just change 2022 to 2023. It worked for me, but it doesn't work for everyone

Wow very cool, what changes did you see? =)

[nittionia]

Wow very cool, what changes did you see? =)

It was pretty insignificant :/ My Swedish/Danish category went up in exchange for slightly lower Norwegian. Finnish went up slightly.. I was hoping that they would have figured out the Germanic Europe issue, but they haven't.

[calxpal]

It was pretty insignificant :/ My Swedish/Danish category went up in exchange for slightly lower Norwegian. Finnish went up slightly.. I was hoping that they would have figured out the Germanic Europe issue, but they haven't.

Thanks for sharing :) sorry that it wasn't what you were hoping though! I'm actually hoping more for a new feature or more genetic communities with this update than drastic ethnicity changes.

[Rædwald]

It was pretty insignificant :/ My Swedish/Danish category went up in exchange for slightly lower Norwegian. Finnish went up slightly.. I was hoping that they would have figured out the Germanic Europe issue, but they haven't.

Same, all my populations are the same, just rounded up or down slightly added 0.10% Nilotic lol

[Rædwald]

Nice results calxpal, what do you think about the reference populations for Irish/Scottish? It seems to be that they're easily mixed up, do you think it's possible that this is the case here for you? I know I've had variable results from my own ancestry. Currently, my ancestry has me at 1/4 Scottish, which is fairly consistent with my known ancestry. Also despite the fact that 23andMe still calls the group 'British & Irish' yet I don't score any of the genetic groups aside from Belfast which is Northern Ireland.

[calxpal]

Nice results calxpal, what do you think about the reference populations for Irish/Scottish? It seems to be that they're easily mixed up, do you think it's possible that this is the case here for you? I know I've had variable results from my own ancestry. Currently, my ancestry has me at 1/4 Scottish, which is fairly consistent with my known ancestry. Also despite the fact that 23andMe still calls the group 'British & Irish' yet I don't score any of the genetic groups aside from Belfast which is Northern Ireland.

Thanks! And hmm well I think it is quite risky that Ancestry even tries to differentiate them at all to be honest lol. I mean I suppose due to similarities I'm not terribly surprised that there appears to be some mix-up between the two, I would expect it to some extent, but I do think they could do a little bit better telling them apart. So yes. It seems like Scotland is very often overestimated (but not always) and even pops up in people as far as Eastern Europe in trace amounts. I know that Ancestry does say a lot of these components are found in many areas though.

And huh that is weird with 23andme, the 23andme recent ancestor locations are more accurate than the genetic groups for me, although my mom's genetic groups are quite accurate but me and my sisters are variable. What recent ancestor locations/genetic communities do you get on 23andme and Ancestry?

[Rædwald]

Thanks! And hmm well I think it is quite risky that Ancestry even tries to differentiate them at all to be honest lol. I mean I suppose due to similarities I'm not terribly surprised that there appears to be some mix-up between the two, I would expect it to some extent, but I do think they could do a little bit better telling them apart. So yes. It seems like Scotland is very often overestimated (but not always) and even pops up in people as far as Eastern Europe in trace amounts. I know that Ancestry does say a lot of these components are found in many areas though.

And huh that is weird with 23andme, the 23andme recent ancestor locations are more accurate than the genetic groups for me, although my mom's genetic groups are quite accurate but me and my sisters are variable. What recent ancestor locations/genetic communities do you get on 23andme and Ancestry?

https://i.postimg.cc/wjsf07KV/regions.png

https://i.postimg.cc/qBb1r84w/ancestrycomm.png

[Sheppey]

It was pretty insignificant :/ My Swedish/Danish category went up in exchange for slightly lower Norwegian. Finnish went up slightly.. I was hoping that they would have figured out the Germanic Europe issue, but they haven't.

I don't trust ancestrydna or 23andme nor livingdna etc... as these things are cynically market to amerimutts. I trust things I can use with my raw dna that is blinded , kind of like the concepts of double blind and triple blind studies.

Both these two these tools place me in England without a company knowing who I am thus cynically lying to me :

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/k36_gps.aspx

https://github.com/wenyun/spa

^ The latter is too geeky for 99.9% of people, though, but places me in Southern England.

[Dick]

https://i.postimg.cc/qBb1r84w/ancestrycomm.png

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https://media.tenor.com/LB4xOlY2Dt0AAAAC/andre-the-giant-funny.gif

[Grace O'Malley]

I would like to mention that I want to give a reminder that these results are estimates and that AncestryDNA is not necessarily better than all the other tests. I feel like I shouldn't even have to post this but I've had problems recently with people accusing me of lying about my background or hating my Ancestry results because I don't believe they are as accurate as they could be. These results do NOT necessarily mean I don't have Irish Ancestry or that my French Canadian grandfather must not be fully French Canadian. Please do not take these results wwwaayyy to literally.

Like sorry but other people do not know my background better than I do based on ethnicity estimates. I do not have recent Scandinavian ancestry based on these results I know this from my tree and I definitely do have an Irish great grandparent plus other Irish great-great+ grandparents in my tree despite what the results say. And the lack of genetic groups do not discount the fact that I have somewhat recent European ancestry.

This comment is just in general, not directed at anyone specific lol.

Of course I know that multiple factors contribute to this like reference populations, random inheritance, algorithms, and others. And 23andme has It's own flaws as well.

I imagine no ones going to reply to this lol but I just have been frustrated with discussing these results with some people recently.

I did want to say though it seems like a 2023 update is in the works :) some people have been able to hack their results to 2023 now!

Yes definitely. Results from tests are not 100% and a verified paper trail is more important. Your results will change when Ancestry does their next update. :)

[Grace O'Malley]

Thanks! And hmm well I think it is quite risky that Ancestry even tries to differentiate them at all to be honest lol. I mean I suppose due to similarities I'm not terribly surprised that there appears to be some mix-up between the two, I would expect it to some extent, but I do think they could do a little bit better telling them apart. So yes. It seems like Scotland is very often overestimated (but not always) and even pops up in people as far as Eastern Europe in trace amounts. I know that Ancestry does say a lot of these components are found in many areas though.

And huh that is weird with 23andme, the 23andme recent ancestor locations are more accurate than the genetic groups for me, although my mom's genetic groups are quite accurate but me and my sisters are variable. What recent ancestor locations/genetic communities do you get on 23andme and Ancestry?

I have my daughter's results who is only Irish and she gets 24% Scotland in her Ancestry result.

https://i.imgur.com/fRFCJFB.png

[calxpal]

I have my daughter's results who is only Irish and she gets 24% Scotland in her Ancestry result.



Interesting, and a bit funny I guess lol.

[calxpal]

I've decided to upload ranges for interest! I've heard people discussing these and I'm curious about them as well too, although tbh they make me more confused about their methodology.

https://i.ibb.co/yVyQ3sd/range1.png
https://i.ibb.co/wBp95dX/range2.png
https://i.ibb.co/SyYQzM3/range3.png
https://i.ibb.co/ss1f4SB/range4.png
https://i.ibb.co/0JPGC6v/range6.png
https://i.ibb.co/HTc3d1j/range7.png
https://i.ibb.co/7VY22NK/range9.png

Insights are welcome ofc =) I am open to different perspectives.

Some thoughts:

I find it slightly amusing that Scotland is assigned at the highest amount but not any other groups, even though the lower end of the Scotland range is way more genealogically accurate for me.

Eastern Europe and Russia is around what I would expect, although I'm surprised it could be up to 35%.

The France range is interesting, I am happy they at least assigned France although I'm not sure how the range has 0% tbh with a French Canadian Grandparent that's impossible lol.

The England and Northwestern Europe % is around what I would expect but find the 0-35% interestingly large.

The Ireland range is not surprising, but the amount is still surprisingly low.

I'm a bit confused about the Sweden and Denmark showing up at all since I don't have recent ancestors from there, but it is probably acting as a proxy for something.

The Northern Italy range is very interesting as I am very surprised they would assign only 1% given a range of 0-9%, I'm a bit confused how it would get up to 9% though considering I don't have recent Italian ancestors I know of.

I also really wish they still included the trace results revealed by the hack as I think seeing the ranges for them would be interesting.








Also please no comments saying I don't know my ancestry or one of my grandparents isn't fully "X" or isn't "X" just because of these results......I don't have time for that bullshit. These tests aren't perfect, and 23andme isn't either, but I do think the results are somewhat good.


I am aware though that they often say some of these components are found in many places, and the maps are often quite broad for some categories. I am actually hoping more for new genetic groups than drastic percentage changes in the update.

[calxpal]

If you aren't a subscriber to Ancestry makes sure you screenshot all your extra ethnicity features NOW including the parental inheritance, chromosome painting, match parental split, and others too because who knows what else they are going to paywall soon, these features are going to be paywalled to members only! I would also recommend saving the hack info as it seems likely they'll remove it once non-members lose access to the chromosome painting and inheritance. I'm so mad I spent the 100$ bucks on this test only to have them take away a bunch of originally advertised features. They aren't even really good enough to be behind a paywall lol :mad::mad::mad: and to lose basic features and functionality ugh! And before an update! Many non-US accounts seem to still have access to the features for now. I will not be recommending this test and I'm not sure if I even trust anything from them anymore tbh. I'm too mad to discuss AncestryDNA for now so I'm gonna close this thread for a bit, but I'll open it again in the future. If you're really curious about discussing this you can PM me.

I am well aware that no DNA company is perfect. I just found AncestryDNA's recent moves to be really shady. I am really concerned about what they will do next. I really hope they eventually work on fixing their website ugh. If you want to know more about what happened go to the AncestryDNA subreddit.

I am still hoping that the 2023 update brings some good despite all this.

[calxpal]

I will reopen this since the update is coming, I will post my updated results when they come but I am still pretty mad at Ancestry so I am not super hyped. I am hoping that the accuracy at least moves in the right direction and that It's not a weak update. But I'm really hoping more for them to improve their Genetic Communities algorithm rather than the ethnicity update because it is absolutely ridiculous that they can't identify any recent European ancestry on the test when other platforms can considering the size of the database they have.

[calxpal]

I just got the update and I have to be honest I am extremely disappointed. Overall there were no improvements for me in terms of accuracy...my results still have a few of the same problems as before which I was really hoping for the update to fix. And my ethnicity inheritance prediction became less accurate ):. I also still have no European genetic communities :( tbh this update was just as bad as the MyHeritage one for me. No hate towards Ancestry but yeah I think I'm going to just ignore their ethnicity estimates going forward for the most part and focus more on building my tree. I'm sad because this was something I was really looking forward to.

[Gallop]

I disappear Wales and they give me Scotland.

Scotland
Primarily located in: Scotland

Also found in: Channel Islands, England, Faroe Islands, France, Iceland, Isle of Man, Northern Ireland

From 83% in Spain to 87% in Portugal, it went to 5%. France disappears and the piquito that you see there remains.



https://i.postimg.cc/QChmTs9t/Ancestry-Escocia.jpg

[happycow]

I just got the update and I have to be honest I am extremely disappointed. Overall there were no improvements for me in terms of accuracy...my results still have a few of the same problems as before which I was really hoping for the update to fix. And my ethnicity inheritance prediction became less accurate ):. I also still have no European genetic communities :( tbh this update was just as bad as the MyHeritage one for me. No hate towards Ancestry but yeah I think I'm going to just ignore their ethnicity estimates going forward for the most part and focus more on building my tree. I'm sad because this was something I was really looking forward to.

disappoint in mine as well tbh

[nittionia]

Yeah mine didn't change and I still don't have communities. Hopefully 23andme comes out with an update soon.

[calxpal]

I will try to upload an image later of these but I will say that the accuracy for me overall hasn't really improved or disproved this time, some things are more accurate some things are less. Still It's interesting to have it as a comparison.

The decrease in Scottish is definitely an improvement, however my results still have the same issue with the vastly underestimated Irish. E&NW Europe and France each went up a tad which is a step in the right direction although extremely miniscule. Eastern Europe remained exactly the same. I also now have Wales at 2% which is interesting considering a few of my mom's distant Irish ancestors had old Welsh origins. And also 1% Norway not sure where that came from lol but it is probably a proxy for something else at such a small amount as well. Also my total Scandinavian (Norway + Sweden & Denmark) increased by 2% to 7% which is a step in the wrong direction considering I don't have any recent Scandinavian ancestors in my tree, if it was 1-2% it would be understandable but 7% is a lot without recent ancestry, although it is probably acting as a proxy for something else. I actually thought it was possible it might disappear in the update. Ancestry seems to have problems with their Scandinavian samples. I don't mean any hate towards Scandinavian ancestry though lol it would actually be cool of it was real but sadly I know It's not, no other major DNA companies assigns me it either. I also lost my 1% North Italian which I don't have many thoughts about considering It's a very small amount. My trace ancestries are the same according to the hack which isn't surprising.

I also still have no European genetic groups :( and Ancestry still can't pick up my slightly more distant European ancestry, I should have a % of Germanic Europe and The Balkans but I still don't receive it.

I find that the Ethnicity Inheritance prediction makes it bit less sense than before, but It's still alright. The chromosome painting is ok but is still a little unrealistic IMO and has too many whole chromosomes of one ancestry. It's also still interesting to see where the unassigned is but I wish they actually just labeled it.

And of course I understand none of these tests will be perfect, they are just estimates and they do give % ranges which I'll post again later, and I do expect these companies to have some trouble telling apart different European subregions. I care just as much about detail as accuracy. And 23andme has a few issues as well ofc.

I am kind of worried though that Ancestry is going to focus a lot less on improving Europe because while I do think it is great they are tons of new genetic groups all across the world, there European results still need work even if they have a lot of samples. I am also concerned though especially with all the new paywalls (I know It's US only currently) since I think the features they want to paywall still need improvement and once I encounter them the test will have been even more worthless than most lesser known websites where you upload and pay $20 or so for a report. They also revealed they have plans to paywall the matches which would be very disappointing and make the test basically worthless ):.

I have been making interesting discoveries and having fun with making a tree on there, however there is only so much without the subscription. I do like the hints feature. I think it sucks that the website has a lot of potential but also a lot of problems.

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Also my one genetic group is the same as before *Southwest Quebec French Settlers. I did want to mention though that I have a lot of recent Eastern Quebec French ancestry so I am puzzled about why I'm not getting a genetic group for that as well.

Anyways thoughts are welcome ofc =)

[calxpal]

Yeah mine didn't change and I still don't have communities. Hopefully 23andme comes out with an update soon.

Yeah that would be cool :) although I don't have high hopes that it will be before next year.

[MandM]

Follow this: https://www.reddit.com/r/AncestryDNA/comments/130cib8/dna_hack_instructions/

Just change 2022 to 2023. It worked for me, but it doesn't work for everyone
Dont know if i did it right or if it worked, but it just showed 100% Balkan

Aha i was supposed to do this befor they updated hehe

Doea it worl on 23andme, and if yes how do i do it

[Gallop]

I'm sticking with FTDNA. I sent the Ancestry kit from Barcelona, they had given me 6% from France, and in turn they change Wales for Scotland. then I do the family tree, all my family from Andalusia and they have made 6% of France disappear, for me they can go to shit.

[calxpal]

Dont know if i did it right or if it worked, but it just showed 100% Balkan

Aha i was supposed to do this befor they updated hehe

Doea it worl on 23andme, and if yes how do i do it

I sure wish 23andme had a hack like that lol it would be interesting and kinda funny, I wonder if that would be possible lol hmmm.

[hazmatnik]

My update was just subtracting from Balkan and adding to Greece and Albania

https://i.postimg.cc/0QmPg7wN/nikola.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

My maternal aunt got Denmark and Sweden for the first time which is pretty silly

https://i.postimg.cc/zDFYnzw4/irena.jpg (https://postimages.org/)gif hosting (https://postimages.org/)

Paternal aunt didnt change at all

https://i.postimg.cc/t4fKXYyn/mirjana.jpg (https://postimages.org/)images upload (https://postimages.org/)

[calxpal]

I have a question I wanted to ask if anyone here has ever done a second test with Ancestry and if so how different were the results for you? What it worth it or better the 2nd time? I am considering doing a 2nd test by some means since I am not fully satisfied with my ethnicity results and disappointed with the vagueness and lack of detail/genetic groups. It's also because my parents won't take it and sadly my grandma can't anymore. Advice would be greatly appreciated :) please don't be rude though.

[Luke35]

I have a question I wanted to ask if anyone here has ever done a second test with Ancestry and if so how different were the results for you? What it worth it or better the 2nd time? I am considering doing a 2nd test by some means since I am not fully satisfied with my ethnicity results and disappointed with the vagueness and lack of detail/genetic groups. It's also because my parents won't take it and sadly my grandma can't anymore. Advice would be greatly appreciated :) please don't be rude though.

I've never actually seen anyone's results who took it twice. As far as the data, maybe some slight variation is possible, with no-calls or some quality issue, but basically it should be identical. I think the question would be if their algorithm works like Vahaduo, where sometimes even with the same source and target, the result will wiggle back and forth a little with each calculation.

Regarding other aspects of your results, I think I have said before, I'd like to see them work on improving the sensitivity of the communities tool, or to keep growing/developing their samples within the established communities. I still can't fathom how my mom has 87.5% German ancestry, gets a German community -- but my sister and I do not? Yet I do get a Cornwall, England community -- curtesy of one 3x great-grandparent. Weird.

If you feel like it, I'd be curious to see how you would adjust your current percentages to improve your estimate?

[calxpal]

I've never actually seen anyone's results who took it twice. As far as the data, maybe some slight variation is possible, with no-calls or some quality issue, but basically it should be identical. I think the question would be if their algorithm works like Vahaduo, where sometimes even with the same source and target, the result will wiggle back and forth a little with each calculation.

Regarding other aspects of your results, I think I have said before, I'd like to see them work on improving the sensitivity of the communities tool, or to keep growing/developing their samples within the established communities. I still can't fathom how my mom has 87.5% German ancestry, gets a German community -- but my sister and I do not? Yet I do get a Cornwall, England community -- curtesy of one 3x great-grandparent. Weird.

If you feel like it, I'd be curious to see how you would adjust your current percentages to improve your estimate?

I'm curious about that as well I wonder how different the result variations would be for example if Ancestry provided different runs of your ethnicity estimate and not just one.

I agree yes the communities were my biggest let down. It would be cool if they offered a feature like "possibly applicable communities" based on the communities of relatives.

And yeah I admit it would likely be a waste of money to test twice and quite possibly there would not be a lot of change, it was just a curious idea.

Although I did hear news that they are planning on allowing uploads in the near future which is very exciting if true, I look forward to that very much and then I could do a quick and easy comparison with a different set of raw data and get family member results easily too. I will be keeping and eye out for this =)


I will say though that sometimes It's fun and interesting to receive different percentages on these tests than you expect than what you already had in mind from your background...and maybe I'm being whiny lol and they do have ranges.....but in terms of improving the accuracy I would adjust the current percentage by upping the Irish by at least 3x, reducing the Scottish by 1/3 or so to 20-25%, increasing the French to maybe 17-18%, getting rid of the 6% Sweden/Denmark, adding in around 3-6% Germanic Europe for my Dutch GG-Grandparent, add in at least 5% Balkan (although I think it may be absorbed into Eastern Europe, but it seems hard to believe I'd have absolutely none especially with my grandma's 23andme and the region her ancestors come from), and maybe add 1% or so Basque since I have multiple distant ancestors who came from the Basque region of France...although I believe they were not all ethnically Basque but I have French Canadian relatives on Ancestry scoring up to 25% so I think it would make sense. I would keep the other percentages I didn't mention unchanged. I would also adjust the chromosome painting as it looks odd with so many chromosomes painted only one whole color, at least for me I think. I would also want to see an improvement in consistency a little since I have a very small number of relatives on Ancestry that share zero ethnicities with me, I feel like they should share something if we are related.

But ofc I know some things complicate my prediction like random inheritance and people lying about their ethnicity possibly and reference populations too. I don't dislike my results though lol just confused by a few parts of it.

And I would also add back in trace ancestry instead of having it as "unassigned" because idk it makes me laugh to see the unassigned when the hack assigns it lol. And I think it makes sense hmmm.

But I also have an idea of which genetic groups I would add, I'm not going to bother naming all the exact regions though lol.

Anyways I'm curious to know your opinion and share your thoughts ofc =) I appreciate the comment! I'm really hoping that the next Ancestry update is a bigger one!

[calxpal]

I wanted to give a heads up to anyone with Ancestry results on here without a membership that they are going to be putting shared matches and ancestors in common/surnames and related features behind a membership paywall, there is a notice up under the shared matches and trees tab now. I would recommend looking through and screenshotting them now if you can, or saving them however. I am very unhappy about this, although I don't mean to upset any AncestryDNA fans on here. Please don't bring up 23andme on this thread either unless if it's related to my ancestry breakdown.

I think It's possible they'll be moving other things behind the paywall too, but I'm not sure ):.

[calxpal]

I wanted to alert people to the fact that it seems like there is minor but possible evidence to suggest that Ancestry database information could have been compromised. I have only seen a few people post about it anywhere on any website though as of now but It's something to be aware of, might want to double check that your account is secure. It may NOT have been compromised though, I could be totally wrong and sound like a borderline conspiracy theorist lol.

As an update it appears that emails used for ancestry were possibly sold to scammers.

[calxpal]

Btw apparently in the next update they are going to be breaking down some of the European countries much more specifically, which seems cool however, I have mixed feelings about this. While it would be cool to see more specific assignments, I am already concerned with the accuracy of their current country level distinctions and I hope it doesn't mean my results veer even further from my known genealogy and other DNA platforms. Tbh I would really rather see a massive communities update where communities would also have more features and functionality, and I would like to actually receive a European community like 23andme and MyHeritage give me but also I hope I can finally be assigned a community that has a real connection to my genealogy unlike my current one. But yeah well I hope this actually goes in the right direction finally....I really hope they don't paywall even more existing features as I already don't even use the site anymore. Yeah sorry I admit I sound frustrated because I am with them, I am excited for an update but at the same time worried about what it might bring.

Also sorry if you're an AncestryDNA fan but please don't attack me or attack 23andme in this thread thank you. I know 23andme has it's own problems. And please don't be rude or talk down to me.

I do have to say though I would rather see them improve the information they give (like showing multiple possible estimates and adding confidence levels) than just updating the ethnicity populations.

[calxpal]

I need to say this I'm so sorry but I am extremely mad at Ancestry yet again. They just removed a ton of family tree functionality by blocking potential ancestors hints if you don't have a subscription!!!! FUCK you Ancestry you dirty scumbags can't even give me European genetic groups let alone an accurate genetic group you useless greedy you scumbags you are literally the DEVIL Ancestry I'm never going to cave in to your overpriced subscription bullshit!!!! I don't even care if you read this Ancestry if you know my account go ahead and just ban me and delete it I'm DONE with you guys you guys are the bottom barrel shit of all DNA testing companies now. And I was just using that feature to redo the parts of my tree where I lost access to the documents :(:(. If the next update is trash again I'M DONE. I don't even trust your mediocre Ethnicity Estimate anymore lol.

I know NO DNA companies are perfect, but all these absurd underhanded paywalls are next level SHIT.

Also please do not come on here to argue against me If you disagree.

I had high hopes for you Ancestry when I first did the test ugghhhhhhh, I don't think anything good anymore about you :mad:

[RyoHazuki]

I need to say this I'm so sorry but I am extremely mad at Ancestry yet again. They just removed a ton of family tree functionality by blocking potential ancestors hints if you don't have a subscription!!!! FUCK you Ancestry you dirty scumbags can't even give me European genetic groups let alone an accurate genetic group you useless greedy you scumbags you are literally the DEVIL Ancestry I'm never going to cave in to your overpriced subscription bullshit!!!! I don't even care if you read this Ancestry if you know my account go ahead and just ban me and delete it I'm DONE with you guys you guys are the bottom barrel shit of all DNA testing companies now. And I was just using that feature to redo the parts of my tree where I lost access to the documents :(:(. If the next update is trash again I'M DONE. I don't even trust your mediocre Ethnicity Estimate anymore lol.

I know NO DNA companies are perfect, but all these absurd underhanded paywalls are next level SHIT.

Also please do not come on here to argue against me If you disagree.

I had high hopes for you Ancestry when I first did the test ugghhhhhhh, I don't think anything good anymore about you :mad:

Yeah, when I noticed the paywall I gave up trying to further piece together loose ends in my family tree. I already found their ethnicity estimate lackluster and overly broad, so this made me lose what respect I had left for Ancestry.

[calxpal]

I will upload my updated results soon, but to my pleasant surprise my updated results are much better imo much more in line with what I would expect. I no longer have an absurd amount of Scandinavian or low Irish. I will share screenshots soon.

This is what it is from what I remember.
Scottish is still a higher than what I'd expect.

Scotland: 34%

Central & Eastern Europe-29% (I don't like this new category lol)

France-16%

Ireland-10%

England & NE Europe-4%

North Italy-3%

Germanic Europe-2%

Basque-1%

Manchuria and Mongolia-1%



Also have a new genetic group: Northern Scotland.

I can no longer check for less than 1%'s like before because of the new paywalls. Same for the chromosome painting and inheritance unfortunately. I wonder if there's a way to see it without doing a free trial.

[calxpal]

https://i.ibb.co/hmv6Dn4/update1anc.png

https://i.ibb.co/dGSC65j/updanc2.png

Here they are! Sadly I just lost my only European genetic group though ): and no other additional ones.

[calxpal]

Did the free trial to get access but will cancel very shortly. Confirmed a few ancestors I shared with matches too lol.

Parental inheritance is better I think. Minor changes in chromosome painting.


https://i.ibb.co/gd8S4V2/chromo.png
https://i.ibb.co/m8RW5DV/parental.png
https://i.ibb.co/2tSR6pL/hack345.png

[calxpal]

I am really hoping AncestryDNA pulls something really good this year after my 23andme results were kind of butchered imo ):.

[nittionia]

I am really hoping AncestryDNA pulls something really good this year after my 23andme results were kind of butchered imo ):.

Yeah I was a little surprised about what 23andMe did. Only 8 more days until Ancestry updates :)

[calxpal]

Yeah I was a little surprised about what 23andMe did. Only 8 more days until Ancestry updates :)

Yeah I'm counting down! =)

[Gohenk]

it is interesting that, for a Canadian, you have both low English and French despite having a very mixed Euro heritage.
Are you not colonial, mostly?
Anyways, great results.
I dont know much about immigrations to Canada or USA, btw.

[calxpal]

it is interesting that, for a Canadian, you have both low English and French despite having a very mixed Euro heritage.
Are you not colonial, mostly?
Anyways, great results.
I dont know much about immigrations to Canada or USA, btw.

Yes although I think the French is a bit underestimated and the Scotland is definitely too high, although still in the range of being reasonable I suppose.

I have little colonial ancestry other than being 1/4 French Canadian. I have great grandparents from Europe and also some who came to Canada 200 or so years ago as well as far back French Canadian ancestry.

Tbh I'm not the biggest expert on it myself.

I do like thewe results better now though especially after the 23andme update which IMO is AI done and very watered down for me compared to v6.0, the features like parental inheritance and the timeline are utter garbage now and seem completely random.

I don't really feel like sharing any full DNA results though because no one ever really responds on here anymore or people are rude about it, but yeah if you want I can PM you my AncestryDNA update coming up.

Also sorry for the typos it's hard to edit on my phone.

[calxpal]

Also I got my AncestryDNA update and it was quite disappointing IMO. The accuracy for me took quite a dip overall, although they did identify some correct subregions as well, but some seemed random. But no new communities again );. At least they give me a proper Irish ancestry allotment though despite me being skeptical of the subregions. The new results also give me huge English bloat and lower French especially compared to before, like the new 23andme me though which I find frustrating.

I checked the hacked results as well. The lower 2 hack percentages (Manchuria-Mongolia & Indigenous Americas-North) remained exactly the same but all European subregions %'s changed. I did notice some overall discrepancies though between the hack % total and the amount of the category assigned, even by 1-2% probably because of the rounding they use.

I also do not like the new report interface, and they said they would show exact decimals which would have been useful but the exact decimals are not visible ):.

The most accurate part of my report was the assignment of 26% West Ukraine which definitely makes sense. And they did identify Quebec/Acadia ancestry in the %'s which I have both of.

Also I do not like how they grouped/named certain European subregions, and I think 23andme did better with assigning Eastern Euro/Balkan ancestry. Since Ancestry gave me 6% Northeast Poland and 2% Eastern Czechia which both feel random to me especially the Northeast Poland which I have no evidence of a connection with.

I also got a 1% Sweden which seems a bit random, the 1% Basque I had before was more accurate because I have distant Basque ancestors in my tree but not a big deal.

I would honestly say it was only slightly better than 23andme's update for me. I will comment on the chromo painting and estimated inheritance soon too.


I do think seeing the new subregions is interesting but some assignments are quite off, I guess I kind of expect that though.



Also I wanted to say some here might be disappointed that I am no longer sharing full DNA results here as images, I decided it's better for me to only share them privately with people I trust just because I've had too many people here be rude to me or try to make me feel stupid about them or not believe me about my genealogy, or they bring up political shit for no reason or make a off-color comment. I'm also tired of going to the trouble of posting all these results images only for almost no one to view them sorry.