G25 Iron Age-Rome-Medieval (Unscaled) [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

ScandinavianCelt

05-22-2023, 06:10 PM

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/20/g25-age-de-fer-rome-medieval.htm

Please post your UNSCALED G25 results with no added distance only just to see your closest potential pieces during the Iron Age -- Rome based?

My results:

Target: Brad_UNscaled
Distance: 0.5236% / 0.00523558

20.0 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
16.8 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8206
12.6 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
11.8 CELTIC:England_IA:I0160
9.8 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT3
8.6 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT23
7.0 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
4.8 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
3.0 NORTH_URALIC:Levanluhta_IA:JK1970
2.6 BERBER:Berber_Morocco_ERR
1.8 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
1.2 CELTIC:England_IA:HI1-I0156

Aggregate:

Target: Brad_UNscaled
Distance: 0.5236% / 0.00523560

31.4 CELTIC
31.2 CELTIBERIAN
24.6 VIKING-EAST
7.2 GERMANIC
3.0 NORTH_URALIC
2.6 BERBER

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The DNAGenics App gives me this for aggregate at 0x ADC:

Distance: 0.60080

34.40% CELTIBERIAN
33.60% CELTIC
30.60% VIKING-EAST
01.40% VIKING-WEST

and at 2x ADC:

Distance: 2.75062

52.80% VIKING-WEST
47.20% GERMANIC

Figaro

05-22-2023, 06:13 PM

Target: CordedFather
Distance: 0.6479% / 0.00647876
33.4 GERMANIC
25.4 CELTIC
18.2 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
16.2 VIKING-EAST
3.8 BALTIC
3.0 BERBER

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 0.5744% / 0.00574416
30.8 BALTIC
22.4 CELTIC
19.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
14.0 GERMANIC
6.2 BERBER
3.4 NORTH_URALIC
2.0 AVARIC
1.6 VIKING-WEST
0.2 LEVANTINE

Target: CordedWife
Distance: 6.1668% / 0.06166846
57.4 IBERIAN
23.8 NORTH_URALIC
11.8 TARTESSIAN
5.8 BERBER
1.2 CELTIC

Target: CordedFriend
Distance: 1.4185% / 0.01418458
40.0 CELTIBERIAN
25.4 CELTIC
20.2 VIKING-EAST
14.4 GRECO-ROMAN

Gergő Marosvári

05-22-2023, 06:25 PM

Target: Gergő
Distance: 0.5227% / 0.00522733
25.0 GRECO-ROMAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ40
13.6 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
12.8 BALTIC:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns25
9.4 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38
8.4 BALTIC:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns209
8.2 CELTIC:England_IA:L-I0789
7.8 BALTIC:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns222
6.2 AVARIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:AED_1108
2.4 NORTH_URALIC:Levanluhta_IA:JK1970
2.4 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
2.2 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8206
0.8 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
0.6 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
0.2 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773

noricum

05-22-2023, 06:26 PM

Distance to: G25unoricum
0.02206581 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1
0.02545879 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.02787831 SLAVIC:Sunghir_Medieval:Sunghir6
0.02841672 SLAVIC:Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569
0.02995129 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.03062825 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2
0.03103869 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.03129968 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220
0.03134326 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN::Germany_Medieval_ACD:NW_54
0.03152047 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.03247984 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.03263342 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774
0.03282103 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.03294920 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.03447274 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
0.03467997 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ37
0.03471887 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ8
0.03513133 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.03514114 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12
0.03546844 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT22
0.03557612 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ24
0.03572520 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
0.03596318 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
0.03649671 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:ALH_1
0.03655544 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ14

Target: G25unoricum
Distance: 0.9347% / 0.00934713
39.2 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
28.6 BALTIC
23.2 CELTIC
4.4 TARTESSIAN
2.2 BERBER
1.2 AQUITANIAN
1.2 IBERIAN

Gallop

05-22-2023, 06:32 PM

Target: Gallop
Distance: 0.9772% / 0.00977234
30.2 LUSITANIAN
21.8 AQUITANIAN
15.4 IBERIAN
12.8 CELTIC
8.8 AVARIC
6.0 TARTESSIAN
4.6 BERBER
0.4 GERMANIC

Target: Father
Distance: 0.7437% / 0.00743721
30.2 AQUITANIAN
24.6 TARTESSIAN
18.2 AVARIC
16.6 LUSITANIAN
3.0 IBERIAN
2.4 VIKING-WEST
2.0 BALTIC
1.6 CELTIBERIAN
1.4 CELTIC

Beowulf

05-22-2023, 06:38 PM

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901887
39.0 AQUITANIAN
15.6 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
15.4 BERBER
14.6 CELTIC
7.6 LUSITANIAN
4.0 IBERIAN
3.4 TARTESSIAN
0.4 GRECO-ROMAN

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.9924% / 0.00992369 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.8 AQUITANIAN
30.4 IBERIAN
17.2 TARTESSIAN
9.6 CELTIC
7.0 LEVANTINE
1.0 BALTIC

MandM

05-22-2023, 06:49 PM

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.0376% / 0.01037567
34.0 GRECO-ROMAN
32.2 SLAVIC
28.8 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
5.0 BALTIC

Duke

05-22-2023, 06:59 PM

How do you get unscaled coords, i kinda figured all of this stuff yesterday

NWM, figured it out

ScandinavianCelt

05-22-2023, 07:04 PM

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901887
39.0 AQUITANIAN
15.6 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
15.4 BERBER
14.6 CELTIC
7.6 LUSITANIAN
4.0 IBERIAN
3.4 TARTESSIAN
0.4 GRECO-ROMAN

Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.9924% / 0.00992369 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.8 AQUITANIAN
30.4 IBERIAN
17.2 TARTESSIAN
9.6 CELTIC
7.0 LEVANTINE
1.0 BALTIC

It's interesting to see the shift from zero distance to a quarter distance how your numbers changed a lot-- so interesting right?

ScandinavianCelt

05-22-2023, 07:05 PM

How do you get unscaled coords, i kinda figured all of this stuff yesterday

NWM, figured it out

The illustrativedna.com website gave me my unscaled coordinates when they gave me my scaled coordinates they give you one set of each

MandM

05-22-2023, 07:05 PM

How do you get unscaled coords, i kinda figured all of this stuff yesterday

NWM, figured it out

Davidski, or illustrated Dna

alexmegas777

05-22-2023, 07:39 PM

Target: alexmegas
Distance: 1.0377% / 0.01037710
50.0 GRECO-ROMAN
24.4 BALTIC
11.2 TARTESSIAN
8.0 CELTIBERIAN
4.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
2.0 SLAVIC

ScandinavianCelt

05-22-2023, 07:46 PM

Target: alexmegas
Distance: 1.0377% / 0.01037710
50.0 GRECO-ROMAN
24.4 BALTIC
11.2 TARTESSIAN
8.0 CELTIBERIAN
4.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
2.0 SLAVIC

Does that Tartessian show up as Portugal or, Iberia, in general, on other tests in same proportions?

ScandinavianCelt

05-23-2023, 02:47 PM

Run your top contributor piece from the OP test (IA Rome...) against the K105 and post your NO ADC and 2x ADC. Look where my Swedish Sigtuna Viking connects to at 2x...

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/148/g25-world-countries-calculator-k105.htm

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 11.5159% / 0.11515929 | ADC: 2x RC

100.0 Turkmenistan

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 1.3746% / 0.01374572

37.0 Norway
11.6 Turkmenistan
6.6 Tajikistan
5.8 Mali
5.6 Kazakhistan
5.2 Afghanistan
4.8 Laos
3.4 Slovakia
2.8 Eritrea
2.6 Indonesia
2.6 South_Africa
2.4 Ethiopia
2.2 Palestinian:
2.2 Greenland
2.0 Morocco
1.2 Burma
1.0 Switzerland
0.6 Papua_New_Guinea
0.2 South_Sudan
0.2 Mauritania

And this is where it goes on the Neolithic test from Davide:

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 13.8270% / 0.13827017 | ADC: 2x RC

51.8 Altai_BA:RUS_Mezhovskaya
48.2 Altai_BA:KAZ_Zevakinskiy_MLBA

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 0.9231% / 0.00923052

24.0 CordedWareCulture:Corded_Ware_Baltic_early:__BC__2 900_2500__k3
19.0 NorthWest_Europe_BA:BBC_NorthWest:Bell_Beaker_NW_E NG:A__BC__2300_2000__k6
13.0 Aegean_BA:Cycladic_EBA:GRC_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA: __BC__2300__k2
11.8 Han
7.4 Yoruba
4.4 ETH_4500BP
4.4 Jarawa
4.2 Natufian:Levant_Natufian
3.6 Nganassan
3.4 SouthEasternEurope_Chalcolithic:HUN_LCA:mix__BC__3 150__k2
1.6 NorthWest_Europe_BA:Ireland_BA:__BC__1950_1650__k2
1.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.2 JOR_EBA:__BC__2400_2000__k3
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

PT Tagus

05-24-2023, 10:16 PM

Target: Endovelicus
Distance: 0.5583% / 0.00558294
24.0 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
19.2 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I7673
13.4 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
13.0 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
11.2 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
8.2 LEVANTINE:England_Roman_o:3DT26
4.6 BERBER:Berber_Algeria
3.6 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL121
2.8 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3759

Aggregate

Target: Endovelicus
Distance: 0.5583% / 0.00558294
32.2 CELTIBERIAN
27.4 AQUITANIAN
24.0 IBERIAN
8.2 LEVANTINE
4.6 BERBER
3.6 GRECO-ROMAN

Distance to: Endovelicus
0.01451344 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
0.01553737 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
0.01837580 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I7673
0.02362710 IBERIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3585
0.02385477 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3759
0.02405805 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
0.02415885 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_North_IA:I3758
0.02563650 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
0.02642196 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
0.02655918 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL121
0.02673126 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
0.02717480 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339
0.02805602 GRECO-ROMAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ43
0.02898293 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ32
0.02948389 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214
0.02950881 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ37
0.03039885 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
0.03044651 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE:I3983
0.03069951 TARTESSIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3582
0.03073223 AQUITANIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203
0.03089741 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.03119519 LUSITANIAN:Iberia_East_IA:I3320
0.03132507 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
0.03142181 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.03155012 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

05-24-2023, 10:27 PM

Target: Viriato
Distance: 0.9303% / 0.00930273
37.2 AQUITANIAN
14.4 IBERIAN
13.4 BERBER
13.0 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
7.6 CELTIC
4.0 LUSITANIAN
3.2 GRECO-ROMAN
3.0 GERMANIC
2.4 TARTESSIAN
1.8 BALTIC

LaSentinelle

05-25-2023, 02:46 PM

Target: DmitryUnscaled
Distance: 0.7677% / 0.00767658
25.8 BALTIC
20.0 CELTIC
19.8 SLAVIC
15.6 NORTH_URALIC
11.0 GERMANIC
4.2 BERBER
2.0 GRECO-ROMAN
1.6 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
With ADC:

Target: DmitryUnscaled
Distance: 0.8857% / 0.00885711 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.8 SLAVIC
19.2 CELTIC
14.0 NORTH_URALIC
13.4 VIKING-EAST
4.6 BALTIC

Target: DmitryUnscaled
Distance: 1.0833% / 0.01083313 | ADC: 1x RC
61.6 SLAVIC
19.6 VIKING-EAST
18.8 NORTH_URALIC

Lemminkäinen

05-25-2023, 03:16 PM

Interesting calculation, includes several northern groups and gives low distance. I get around 10% Uralic in many tests, which is interesting given that people assume the Finns being Uralic also by ancestry, not alone linguistically. In PCA plots I am placed among west Finns without exception.

I think that Celtic in this test stands for some ancient Germanic group, Saxons? Anyway, Celtic and ancient Germanic goups probably overlap.

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.3962% / 0.00396193
34.0 CELTIC
27.4 BALTIC
25.2 VIKING-EAST
11.4 NORTH_URALIC
1.0 GERMANIC
1.0 GRECO-ROMAN

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.4980% / 0.00498031 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 VIKING-EAST
16.2 CELTIC
14.8 BALTIC
14.6 NORTH_URALIC
11.0 SLAVIC

Distance to: MauriJussi1m
0.01770395 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.01829945 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.01849054 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.01863384 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.02183346 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1
0.02366749 SLAVIC:Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569
0.02388242 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.02570700 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
0.02582731 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2
0.02725234 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220
0.02765972 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12
0.02779568 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.02829028 SLAVIC:Sunghir_Medieval:Sunghir6
0.02918339 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:ALH_1
0.02926004 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
0.02951000 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774
0.03011329 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.03133433 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.03139825 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
0.03167681 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ13
0.03235460 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.03247384 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ9
0.03284905 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ24
0.03319895 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT22
0.03325056 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773

Lemminkäinen

05-25-2023, 03:27 PM

Run your top contributor piece from the OP test (IA Rome...) against the K105 and post your NO ADC and 2x ADC. Look where my Swedish Sigtuna Viking connects to at 2x...

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/148/g25-world-countries-calculator-k105.htm

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 11.5159% / 0.11515929 | ADC: 2x RC

100.0 Turkmenistan

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 1.3746% / 0.01374572

37.0 Norway
11.6 Turkmenistan
6.6 Tajikistan
5.8 Mali
5.6 Kazakhistan
5.2 Afghanistan
4.8 Laos
3.4 Slovakia
2.8 Eritrea
2.6 Indonesia
2.6 South_Africa
2.4 Ethiopia
2.2 Palestinian:
2.2 Greenland
2.0 Morocco
1.2 Burma
1.0 Switzerland
0.6 Papua_New_Guinea
0.2 South_Sudan
0.2 Mauritania

And this is where it goes on the Neolithic test from Davide:

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 13.8270% / 0.13827017 | ADC: 2x RC

51.8 Altai_BA:RUS_Mezhovskaya
48.2 Altai_BA:KAZ_Zevakinskiy_MLBA

Target: VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
Distance: 0.9231% / 0.00923052

24.0 CordedWareCulture:Corded_Ware_Baltic_early:__BC__2 900_2500__k3
19.0 NorthWest_Europe_BA:BBC_NorthWest:Bell_Beaker_NW_E NG:A__BC__2300_2000__k6
13.0 Aegean_BA:Cycladic_EBA:GRC_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA: __BC__2300__k2
11.8 Han
7.4 Yoruba
4.4 ETH_4500BP
4.4 Jarawa
4.2 Natufian:Levant_Natufian
3.6 Nganassan
3.4 SouthEasternEurope_Chalcolithic:HUN_LCA:mix__BC__3 150__k2
1.6 NorthWest_Europe_BA:Ireland_BA:__BC__1950_1650__k2
1.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.2 JOR_EBA:__BC__2400_2000__k3
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Sigtuna samples are very diverse and with eastern tendency, while Viking_Saaremaa are from Southern Scandinavia and Vikings_Ladogan 90% Southern Scandinavian, exceptions have Finnish, Baltic and possibly Slavic affinity.

ScandinavianCelt

05-25-2023, 06:36 PM

Interesting calculation, includes several northern groups and gives low distance. I get around 10% Uralic in many tests, which is interesting given that people assume the Finns being Uralic also by ancestry, not alone linguistically. In PCA plots I am placed among west Finns without exception.

I think that Celtic in this test stands for some ancient Germanic group, Saxons? Anyway, Celtic and ancient Germanic goups probably overlap.

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.3962% / 0.00396193
34.0 CELTIC
27.4 BALTIC
25.2 VIKING-EAST
11.4 NORTH_URALIC
1.0 GERMANIC
1.0 GRECO-ROMAN

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.4980% / 0.00498031 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 VIKING-EAST
16.2 CELTIC
14.8 BALTIC
14.6 NORTH_URALIC
11.0 SLAVIC

Distance to: MauriJussi1m
0.01770395 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.01829945 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.01849054 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.01863384 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.02183346 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1
0.02366749 SLAVIC:Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569
0.02388242 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.02570700 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
0.02582731 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2
0.02725234 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220
0.02765972 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12
0.02779568 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.02829028 SLAVIC:Sunghir_Medieval:Sunghir6
0.02918339 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:ALH_1
0.02926004 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
0.02951000 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774
0.03011329 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.03133433 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.03139825 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
0.03167681 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ13
0.03235460 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.03247384 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ9
0.03284905 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ24
0.03319895 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT22
0.03325056 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773

Does your Viking East change into Viking West when you go 2x distance on the ADC?

Gallop

05-25-2023, 07:15 PM

Target: Gallop
Distance: 0.9772% / 0.00977234
30.2 LUSITANIAN
21.8 AQUITANIAN
15.4 IBERIAN
12.8 CELTIC
8.8 AVARIC
6.0 TARTESSIAN
4.6 BERBER
0.4 GERMANIC

Target: Father
Distance: 0.7437% / 0.00743721
30.2 AQUITANIAN
24.6 TARTESSIAN
18.2 AVARIC
16.6 LUSITANIAN
3.0 IBERIAN
2.4 VIKING-WEST
2.0 BALTIC
1.6 CELTIBERIAN
1.4 CELTIC

Leaving only one sample from each group.
I see it more coherent now for the Iron Age-Rome Medieval .

Target: Gallop
Distance: 1.4430% / 0.01442968
35.0 AQUITANIAN
31.2 IBERIAN
11.6 TARTESSIAN
8.4 CELTIC
7.8 AVARIC
6.0 LUSITANIAN

Target: Father
Distance: 1.2173% / 0.01217339
29.4 AQUITANIAN
25.2 IBERIAN
20.2 AVARIC
13.8 LUSITANIAN
9.2 TARTESSIAN
1.8 BALTIC
0.4 BERBER

Lemminkäinen

05-25-2023, 07:51 PM

Does your Viking East change into Viking West when you go 2x distance on the ADC?

No. Actually samples from Sigtuna were not Vikings at all. They are local traders. East Vikings, assuming men on the eastern Viking road in Russia, were South Scandinavians and
coincidentally Finns and Slavs.

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.9965% / 0.00996503 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 VIKING-EAST

Voskos

05-25-2023, 08:03 PM

Another bullshit calc giving huge amounts of Levantine to Greek Islanders when in reality our West Asian admixture is mostly Byzantine. Here's my west asian breakdown on an actual admixture calculator:

Anatolia MLBA
6.2%

Levant BA
5.74%

Hajji Firuz Chalcolithic
3.93%

Iran Chalcolithic
3.71%

Armenia MLBA
3.58%

ScandinavianCelt

05-25-2023, 08:16 PM

No. Actually samples from Sigtuna were not Vikings at all. They are local traders. East Vikings, assuming men on the eastern Viking road in Russia, were South Scandinavians and
coincidentally Finns and Slavs.

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.9965% / 0.00996503 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 VIKING-EAST

My distances using my official UNscaled coordinates:

Distance to: Brad_UNscaled

0.01264239 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.01273381 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
0.01493519 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774
0.01620247 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.01671077 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL84
0.01726326 CELTIC:England_IA:HI1-I0156
0.01810138 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.01815076 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL83
0.01833821 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ9
0.01859166 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.01869545 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773
0.01870160 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220
0.01875180 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:ALH_1
0.01968731 CELTIC:England_IA:I0160
0.02003871 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
0.02018960 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ13
0.02054191 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
0.02093896 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.02106466 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12
0.02112013 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8206
0.02147487 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT22
0.02176787 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ8
0.02251289 CELTIC:England_IA:M1489
0.02254019 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.02303280 VIKING-EAST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021

ScandinavianCelt

05-25-2023, 08:17 PM

Another bullshit calc giving huge amounts of Levantine to Greek Islanders when in reality our West Asian admixture is mostly Byzantine. Here's my west asian breakdown on an actual admixture calculator:

Anatolia MLBA
6.2%

Levant BA
5.74%

Hajji Firuz Chalcolithic
3.93%

Iran Chalcolithic
3.71%

Armenia MLBA
3.58%

Did you use the unscaled coordinates?

Ritz06

05-25-2023, 08:30 PM

Target:
Distance: 1.5808% / 0.01580798
29.4 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38
23.8 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
15.8 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774
11.4 AVARIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:AED_1108
10.4 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT3
5.4 BALTIC:Lithuania_Late_Antiquity_low_res:DA171
2.6 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL25
0.8 CELTIC:England_IA:I0160
0.2 CELTIC:England_IA:M1489
0.2 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42

Target: CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
Distance: 3.1044% / 0.03104379 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.0 Tatar_Lipka
20.2 Berber_Algeria
15.0 Tajik_Hisor
12.6 Roma_Granada
12.2 Maori

Where did he come from?

Voskos

05-25-2023, 08:37 PM

Did you use the unscaled coordinates?

no don't have those. it gave me illyrian+levantine with the scaled ones.

ScandinavianCelt

05-25-2023, 08:45 PM

No. Actually samples from Sigtuna were not Vikings at all. They are local traders. East Vikings, assuming men on the eastern Viking road in Russia, were South Scandinavians and
coincidentally Finns and Slavs.

Target: MauriJussi1m
Distance: 0.9965% / 0.00996503 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 VIKING-EAST

My 2x from vahaduo

Target: Brad_UNscaled
Distance: 1.0540% / 0.01053960 | ADC: 2x RC

50.6 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
49.4 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7

ScandinavianCelt

05-25-2023, 08:54 PM

no don't have those. it gave me illyrian+levantine with the scaled ones.

Scaled won't be accurate on this, will it???

Voskos

05-25-2023, 09:02 PM

Scaled won't be accurate on this, will it???

I guess not as much as the unscaled ones, but what do I know.

Katarzyna

09-18-2023, 09:17 AM

Target: Katarzyna(unscaled)
Distance: 0.3586% / 0.00358596
38.4 VIKING-EAST
37.4 BALTIC
11.0 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
9.8 GRECO-ROMAN
2.2 SLAVIC
1.2 CELTIC

Wow soooo Baltic this time

majevica

09-18-2023, 09:31 AM

Target: majevica_unscaled
Distance: 1.2080% / 0.01207960
53.0 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
35.4 BALTIC
5.6 AVARIC
4.8 TARTESSIAN
1.2 GRECO-ROMAN

Dušan

09-18-2023, 09:50 AM

Target: Dušan_unscaled
Distance: 1.3504% / 0.01350381
51.0 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
22.6 BALTIC
19.8 SLAVIC
6.0 GRECO-ROMAN
0.6 TARTESSIAN

paradox

09-18-2023, 10:59 AM

Target: paradox_unscaled
Distance: 0.7690% / 0.00769037
40.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
31.2 GRECO-ROMAN
21.8 BALTIC
5.8 LEVANTINE
0.8 BERBER

Target: Father_unscaled
Distance: 1.1324% / 0.01132392
56.8 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
21.4 BALTIC
11.8 GRECO-ROMAN
5.2 BERBER
3.0 IBERIAN
1.8 NORTH_URALIC

Grace O'Malley

09-18-2023, 11:16 AM

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 0.5944% / 0.00594387
46.6 CELTIC
30.0 GERMANIC
22.8 VIKING-WEST
0.6 BERBER

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 0.5954% / 0.00595372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 CELTIC
29.6 GERMANIC
23.0 VIKING-WEST

ScandinavianCelt

09-18-2023, 11:26 AM

Target: ScandinavianCelt_UNscaled
Distance: 1.0540% / 0.01053960 | ADC: 2x RC

50.6 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
49.4 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7

ScandinavianCelt

09-18-2023, 11:27 AM

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 0.5944% / 0.00594387
46.6 CELTIC
30.0 GERMANIC
22.8 VIKING-WEST
0.6 BERBER

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 0.5954% / 0.00595372 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 CELTIC
29.6 GERMANIC
23.0 VIKING-WEST

Try no aggregate 2x

true_southron

09-18-2023, 11:34 AM

Distance to: true_southron
0.02032535 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ37
0.02058422 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
0.02174603 GRECO-ROMAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ43
0.02348553 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy197
0.02386881 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ32
0.02491867 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN::Germany_Medieval_ACD:NW_54
0.02749327 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Balkans_IA:I5769
0.02811085 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL25
0.02845435 GRECO-ROMAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ40
0.02957398 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL121
0.02964844 IBERIAN:Germany_Roman:FN_2
0.03071807 IBERIAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36
0.03120913 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38
0.03283931 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.03370890 SLAVIC:Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569
0.03431122 SLAVIC:Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1
0.03454244 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
0.03488223 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
0.03523762 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
0.03552830 AVARIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:AED_1108
0.03622444 IBERIAN:Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3585
0.03631102 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
0.03669877 IBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
0.03766776 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.03861878 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162

Target: true_southron
Distance: 0.4639% / 0.00463891
60.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
20.8 BALTIC
18.8 GRECO-ROMAN

Grace O'Malley

09-18-2023, 11:35 AM

Try no aggregate 2x

Not accurate. :)

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 0.9933% / 0.00993266 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 GERMANIC

ScandinavianCelt

09-18-2023, 11:46 AM

Not accurate. :)

Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 0.9933% / 0.00993266 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 GERMANIC

if not aggregate, which group is it? Hungarian?

Far_away

09-18-2023, 11:51 AM

So much Greco-roman

Distance: 1.1375% / 0.01137513
44.2 GRECO-ROMAN
26.0 BALTIC
15.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
6.0 SLAVIC
3.8 NORTH_URALIC
2.8 IBERIAN
1.8 TARTESSIAN

Julkka

09-18-2023, 11:52 AM

Target: Julkka
Distance: 1.1843% / 0.01184329
30.8 NORTH_URALIC
30.6 VIKING-EAST
15.0 BALTIC
10.8 CELTIC
8.4 VIKING-WEST
4.4 LUSITANIAN

true_southron

09-18-2023, 12:02 PM

So much Greco-roman

Distance: 1.1375% / 0.01137513
44.2 GRECO-ROMAN
26.0 BALTIC
15.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
6.0 SLAVIC
3.8 NORTH_URALIC
2.8 IBERIAN
1.8 TARTESSIAN

How? Do you have some Macedonian Slavs or maybe Vlachs in your ancestry?

Far_away

09-18-2023, 12:04 PM

How? Do you have some Macedonian Slavs or maybe Vlachs in your ancestry?

No. However MyHeritage gives me Romanians and Greeks as genetic groups

MandM

09-18-2023, 01:53 PM

Most suprised over my Mothers Germanic, but its a mix of Germany medieval and Hungarian medieval.. and other suprise was my sisters and Mother inlaw Greeknes

Target: Wife_uncle
Distance: 1.6404% / 0.01640448
35.8 BALTIC
34.0 GRECO-ROMAN
30.2 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN

Target: Mother_inlaw
Distance: 1.9240% / 0.01923987
58.6 GRECO-ROMAN
27.0 BALTIC
14.4 IBERIAN

Target: Wife
Distance: 1.4509% / 0.01450906
42.6 GRECO-ROMAN
34.0 BALTIC
18.0 IBERIAN
2.8 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
2.6 CELTIC

Target: Father
Distance: 1.1798% / 0.01179848
46.0 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
30.8 SLAVIC
11.8 GRECO-ROMAN
5.8 CELTIC
5.6 BALTIC

Target: Mother
Distance: 0.5853% / 0.00585349
40.4 SLAVIC
30.8 GRECO-ROMAN
12.2 GERMANIC
11.8 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
4.0 LEVANTINE
0.8 BALTIC

Target: Sister
Distance: 1.1374% / 0.01137439
51.2 GRECO-ROMAN
24.8 SLAVIC
16.4 BALTIC
4.0 GERMANIC
3.6 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN

Target: Aunt1
Distance: 0.8363% / 0.00836341
39.2 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
28.8 GRECO-ROMAN
24.2 BALTIC
4.6 SLAVIC
3.2 CELTIBERIAN

Target: Aunt2
Distance: 0.6321% / 0.00632096
31.2 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
27.8 GRECO-ROMAN
18.6 BALTIC
18.6 SLAVIC
3.8 LUSITANIAN

Target: Duaghter
Distance: 0.8907% / 0.00890723
49.2 GRECO-ROMAN
30.6 BALTIC
17.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
1.4 AQUITANIAN
1.4 IBERIAN

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.0376% / 0.01037567
34.0 GRECO-ROMAN
32.2 SLAVIC
25.8 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
8.0 BALTIC

Herman

09-18-2023, 02:15 PM

Distance to: Herman
0.02234636 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02352127 CELTIC:England_IA:HI1-I0156
0.02382289 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.02393449 CELTIC:England_IA:M1489
0.02432961 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.02507309 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
0.02556951 CELTIBERIAN:Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
0.02557225 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
0.02610402 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL84
0.02616735 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.02648490 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774

Target: Herman
Distance: 1.1962% / 0.01196242
37.6 CELTIC
25.2 GRECO-ROMAN
18.8 GERMANIC
7.4 AQUITANIAN
7.0 BERBER
2.4 NORTH_URALIC
1.0 VIKING-EAST
0.6 LEVANTINE

Target: Herman
Distance: 1.8191% / 0.01819139 | ADC: 2x RC
36.0 CELTIC
33.0 CELTIBERIAN
31.0 VIKING-WEST

celticdragongod

09-18-2023, 06:17 PM

Distance to: CDG
0.01358786 CELTIC:England_IA:I0160
0.01574484 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O3-I0774
0.01722992 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ7
0.01884649 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL83
0.01898552 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL84
0.01977397 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
0.01981590 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220
0.01985774 CELTIC:Germany_Medieval:STR_316
0.02010149 VIKING-WEST:Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035
0.02023759 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42
0.02060437 CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16
0.02062498 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT3
0.02080745 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ9
0.02147813 GERMANIC:Germany_Medieval:ALH_1
0.02172694 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773
0.02247132 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ23
0.02309610 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT23
0.02335080 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ14
0.02358728 CELTIC:England_IA:HI1-I0156
0.02385917 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145
0.02447652 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ13
0.02562148 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ24
0.02569085 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ8
0.02681250 CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT22
0.02702110 GERMANIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12

Target: CDG
Distance: 0.7724% / 0.00772440
74.8 CELTIC
20.4 GERMANIC
4.0 BERBER
0.4 BALTIC
0.4 NORTH_URALIC

Target: CDG
Distance: 0.7724% / 0.00772440
45.2 CELTIC:England_IA:I0160
19.6 CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ24
13.4 GERMANIC:Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL145
10.0 CELTIC:Germany_Medieval:STR_316
7.0 GERMANIC:England_Anglo-Saxon:O2-I0773
4.0 BERBER:Berber_Morocco_ERR
0.4 BALTIC:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns194
0.4 NORTH_URALIC:Levanluhta_IA:JK1970

Demirkazık

09-18-2023, 06:49 PM

Target: Demirkazık
Distance: 2.1016% / 0.02101646
35.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Scythian_Moldova:scy305
19.2 LEVANTINE:England_Roman_o:3DT26
18.0 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ37
16.8 AVARIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:AED_1108
5.6 BALTIC:Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153
5.0 NORTH_URALIC:Levanluhta_IA:DA238

DomitiusAurelian

09-18-2023, 09:30 PM

Target: Domitius
Distance: 1.9513% / 0.01951337
60.2 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL25
16.0 AVARIC:Germany_Medieval_ACD:AED_1108
14.8 GRECO-ROMAN:Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38
6.4 NORTH_URALIC:Levanluhta_IA:DA238
1.4 NORTH_URALIC:Levanluhta_IA:JK1970
1.2 LEVANTINE:England_Roman_o:3DT26