West Balkan Slavka calc

[Jana]

Slavka = Slavic, but cuter

revamped previous similar calc. Don't bother if you aren't from the region and nearby. Scaled.


West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050,0.112685,0.148267,-0.001886,-0.0323,0.017849,-0.018965,0.001645,-0.004615,0.005727,0.019317,-0.002273,3e-04,-0.015609,0.005092,-0.007057,-0.00358,-0.001043,0.006714,0.011313,-0.016633,-0.009733,-0.005564,0.000986,-0.004338,-0.000359
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2051,0.119514,0.153345,0.012068,-0.033592,0.032314,-0.008646,0.00235,0.006,0.007567,0.02934,-0.003573,0.002098,-0.017393,-0.003028,-0.011265,-0.014717,0.000913,-0.011022,0.010307,0.000125,-0.024831,0.007296,-0.002835,0.007832,-0.006227
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053,0.114961,0.152329,0.020365,-0.015827,0.014772,-0.003904,-0.009635,0.000462,0.016566,0.02041,0.003735,3e-04,-0.00996,0.002064,-0.008143,-0.019888,-0.009127,-0.004181,0.006788,-0.012381,-0.007861,-0.001113,0.005916,0.004458,0.003473
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3543,0.114961,0.151314,0.008297,-0.028424,0.022158,-0.011156,0.006815,0.001154,-0.006749,0.029522,-0.005196,0.010491,-0.01115,-0.010046,-0.010858,-0.002254,-0.003651,0.001394,0.000503,-0.008129,-0.005989,-0.001484,-0.005176,0.003012,-0.000359
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544,0.114961,0.145221,0.017725,-0.026163,0.023081,-0.012829,0.00705,0.001385,0.007363,0.024784,0.0016 24,0.010341,-0.013974,0.001101,-0.007872,-0.005436,-0.001825,-0.00266,0.002263,-0.004127,0.004367,0.000742,-0.009737,-0.003253,0.002634
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3662,0.118376,0.149283,0.004525,-0.031654,0.029852,-0.003068,-0.002585,0.002077,0.013703,0.023691,0.003735,0.012 889,-0.013528,0.004679,-0.008686,-0.006364,-0.003651,-0.002534,-0.000251,-0.002876,0.000125,0.003215,-0.001109,-0.000723,0.001317
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663,0.1161,0.148267,0.017725,-0.00969,0.023081,-0.003068,-0.003995,-0.003923,0.001432,0.020593,0.00065,0.007943,-0.012339,0.005505,0.000271,-0.010475,-0.018775,0.009122,0,0.003627,-0.006364,-0.000742,-0.005916,0.004217,0.013172
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040,0.1161,0.150298,0.023759,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.005578,0.00517,0.002769,0.001841,0.018041,0.0047 09,0.01124,-0.009217,-0.004404,-0.002579,-0.011403,0.002086,0.002407,0.01433,-0.012256,-0.002246,0.005193,-0.000493,0.006748,-0.000599
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041,0.112685,0.144205,0.010559,-0.021964,0.026466,-0.005857,0.003995,-0.001615,-0.005727,0.017677,0.003897,0.001948,-0.008622,-0.016928,-0.009093,0.001061,0.004433,0.003167,-0.004525,-0.001251,-0.004742,0.002473,0.005916,-0.001566,0.006945
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042,0.091058,0.150298,-0.001131,-0.053295,0.022466,-0.022311,-0.001175,-0.000923,0.019225,0.014579,-0.000974,-0.003447,0.004311,-0.008945,0.006515,-0.00411,0.008866,-0.004687,-0.000377,-0.007128,-0.00262,0.00507,-0.001602,-0.003253,0.000838
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15462,0.108132,0.140143,0.004903,-0.044897,0.020311,-0.007251,0.00282,0.005538,-0.001432,0.027518,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.014271,-0.006744,-0.009908,0.012994,0.023991,-0.008488,0.004525,-0.00988,-0.007612,0.005688,0.003697,-0.003012,-0.001676
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463,0.1161,0.148267,0.010559,-0.023256,0.014772,-0.011713,0,0.002769,0.003068,0.011299,0.001624,0.0 02698,-0.011447,-0.004817,-0.011672,0.012729,0.026989,-0.000507,-0.001508,-0.002501,0.001373,-0.000618,-0.008627,0.001325,-0.000479
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741,0.120652,0.149283,0.000754,-0.028424,0.022158,-0.014781,-0.000235,0,-0.004909,0.010752,-0.001786,0.007943,-0.014271,-0.008945,-0.003257,0.010209,0.014864,-0.001014,-0.002891,0.000125,-0.003369,0.003462,-0.002465,0.010845,0.001197
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743,0.119514,0.149283,0.009805,-0.011951,0.024004,-0.006693,-0.00094,0.003461,0.005318,0.016219,0.004222,0.0055 45,-0.006244,0.004542,-0.006379,0.006364,0.007823,0.005068,0.003897,-0.004502,-0.007861,-0.004822,0.002342,-0.003976,0.001676
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744,0.114961,0.14319,-0.001886,-0.027778,0.026774,-0.022311,-0.00141,-0.001615,0.003681,0.019499,-0.004547,0.005395,-0.006095,-0.001376,-0.009093,0.018165,0.014994,-0.00076,0.00264,0.003377,0.000749,0.002349,0.00061 6,-0.00253,-0.001317
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Veli c:R3685,0.117238,0.146236,0,-0.027778,0.017849,-0.020638,-0.00329,-0.006692,-0.000818,0.021868,-0.000325,0.003897,-0.018434,-0.001514,-0.009908,0.009944,0.011474,-0.003421,0.00264,-0.002501,-0.004866,-0.004081,-0.002958,0.004699,-0.001557
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746,0.126344,0.155376,0.012068,-0.047804,0.026774,-0.015339,-0.000235,-0.000923,0.014521,0.045377,0.006496,0.012889,-0.01219,-0.009909,-0.019815,-0.001061,0.018515,0.002914,0.009176,-0.008254,-0.013476,-0.001731,-0.006162,0.003133,-0.005029
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747,0.120652,0.148267,0.017348,-0.022287,0.032929,-0.013387,-0.00141,-0.003692,0.015953,0.018953,-0.002436,0.006444,-0.010555,-0.001514,-0.007057,-0.00305,-0.00339,0.002407,0.003017,-0.008004,0.006364,0.008903,0.002588,0.002651,-0.008023
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3743,0.119514,0.162485,0.009805,-0.028747,0.028005,-0.012271,0.00188,0.005538,0.00409,0.034989,0.00958 1,0.003747,-0.008028,0.001101,-0.017508,-0.012994,-0.000261,0.003294,0.004777,-0.012256,-0.007612,0.00371,0.002095,0.005181,-0.002155
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3744,0.114961,0.152329,0.012445,-0.021641,0.022773,-0.016733,-0.00517,-0.001385,0.001227,0.0277,-0.008931,0.00045,-0.019326,-0.011147,-0.007057,-0.007955,-0.000391,0.000507,0.005656,0.001876,-0.003743,0.003215,0.004437,-0.004097,0.001557
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Novo _selo_Bunje:R3547,0.111547,0.148267,0.001886,-0.033269,0.022773,-0.012829,0.00235,-0.004846,0.003272,0.018224,-0.000812,0.006444,-0.010406,0.004542,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.00326,-0.007095,-0.004399,0.001376,-0.012104,-0.000866,0.003451,0.001687,0.001796
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355,0.124 067,0.137096,0.064488,0.054264,0.048009,0.021753,0 .001175,0.002077,0.002659,0.008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c,0.11723 8,0.133034,0.069013,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.0 08695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.00338,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1,0.118376,0. 129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101 ,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10,0.12862,0. 132019,0.065242,0.047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.00634 5,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255,0.118376,0 .140143,0.060716,0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.0206 81,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316,0.125205, 0.12491,0.071653,0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.01997 6,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001,0.129758 ,0.122879,0.07203,0.068476,0.044316,0.025937,0.012 221,0.013615,-0.005727,-0.024602,-0.002761,-0.007943,0.011447,0.018441,-0.014251,0.011403,0.021383,-0.005954,0.003645,0.002126,0.000873,-0.009398,0.009244,-0.005784,-0.000479
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004,0.134311 ,0.126941,0.089,0.07752,0.050779,0.029284,0.00094, 0.00923,0.004909,-0.016401,0.001949,-0.008842,0.020664,0.019818,-0.006515,0.005701,0.00665,0.0019,0.00817,0.007128,-0.010731,-0.000989,0.003451,-0.014942,-0.003712
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005,0.127482 ,0.13405,0.069013,0.068799,0.049548,0.021753,0.009 635,0.015461,-0.006545,-0.021139,-0.004709,-0.009442,0.010406,0.02257,-0.006515,-0.004508,0.009909,-0.001774,0.006411,0.006753,-0.008235,-0.002968,0.006655,-0.00482,0.000239
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006,0.129758 ,0.120848,0.065242,0.061047,0.043085,0.022869,0.00 564,0.012923,-0.001432,-0.020228,-0.000487,-0.010041,0.013379,0.024772,-0.011808,-0.012198,-0.00339,-0.004814,-0.000503,-0.004752,0.001248,0.000247,0.007148,-0.010845,0.002395
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007,0.125205 ,0.131003,0.082212,0.067184,0.047701,0.02761,0.008 46,0.011538,-0.000205,-0.035718,0.001949,-0.006594,0.01888,0.02202,-0.009365,-0.01485,-0.002868,0.000887,-0.003017,0.005503,0.000749,0.000989,0.00037,-0.003976,0.007664
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA008,0.132035 ,0.129988,0.078064,0.066215,0.037853,0.018965,0.00 5405,0.009923,0.001432,-0.021868,-0.006496,-0.008243,0.015758,0.011147,-0.011536,0.009944,0.020861,-0.00228,0.002514,0.003126,-0.004617,0.000124,0.000493,-0.005663,0.001676
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009,0.129758 ,0.129988,0.064111,0.064923,0.039392,0.021196,0.00 893,0.011307,0.000205,-0.028793,-0.003085,-0.009891,0.017988,0.023258,-0.010722,0.006629,0.007693,0.00114,0.004651,0.0098 8,-0.01123,0.000495,0.003944,-0.008796,-0.001197
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010,0.129758 ,0.12491,0.065619,0.059755,0.044624,0.02761,0.0124 56,0.013153,0.000205,-0.023873,-0.007307,-0.010641,0.011596,0.021056,-0.0057,-0.010342,-0.007041,-0.007221,0.005908,-0.007879,-0.000749,-0.001237,0.002958,-0.005904,-0.002036
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011,0.130897 ,0.132019,0.082212,0.069768,0.050163,0.026216,0.01 2926,0.009923,0.002454,-0.019135,-0.002111,-0.008692,0.014717,0.023533,-0.012486,-0.011005,-0.004172,0.002154,0.006034,0.006003,-0.006738,-0.01014,0.007395,-0.004217,0.003592
Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.135449,0.12897 2,0.080704,0.063954,0.034776,0.034025,0.006815,0.0 07615,0.009613,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.005245,0.010852,0.026561,-0.014658,-0.002254,0.002347,0.001267,0.01081,-0.001751,0.001622,-0.002844,0.009613,-0.008314,0.005389
Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.1350 65,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0. 020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:CS465,0. 0387,-0.384886,0.082589,-0.02261,-0.075091,-0.035698,0.018096,0.027922,0.007976,0.014032,-0.017051,3e-04,0.000149,0.001927,0.001764,-0.004906,0.000391,0.000507,0.005531,0.016508,-0.020464,0.002844,-0.020706,-0.000964,-0.000838
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:KV3369,0 .042115,-0.376761,0.101823,-0.027132,-0.091402,-0.049085,0.025146,0.02746,0.007567,0.012757,0.0027 61,0.005545,-0.006541,-0.000688,0.003257,0.004375,0.001173,0.002534,0.006 662,0.013006,-0.018467,-0.005688,-0.008997,-0.001687,0.006586
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_leader:KFP7,0. 030732,-0.404181,0.09692,-0.027455,-0.080323,-0.053826,0.021621,0.025845,0.015135,0.018041,-0.024033,-0.002997,-0.003568,0.018441,0.011265,-0.003447,0.001043,-0.008235,0.002514,0.016633,-0.019965,-0.009645,-0.015899,0.000964,0.00012
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_military_leade r:FGD4,0.0387,-0.377777,0.080327,-0.01292,-0.075399,-0.044065,0.016216,0.018922,0.002863,0.006743,-0.023384,0.002398,0.000595,0.000413,0.010315,0.002 254,-0.003912,-0.006461,0.003771,0.015883,-0.01148,-0.005317,-0.01861,-0.003976,-0.002874
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_middlelate_Avar_elite:KV3 456,0.043253,-0.365591,0.101445,-0.013566,-0.081554,-0.035977,0.016686,0.025614,0.01309,0.012939,-0.020786,0.001499,-0.001933,-0.001651,0.001086,0.013524,0.007953,-0.004434,0.006159,0.018884,-0.027576,-0.006554,-0.023417,0.007953,0.003233

[rothaer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.4273% / 0.01427321
48.8 Slavka_tribes
45.2 Germanic_tribes
6.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.9802% / 0.01980235
65.0 Germanic_tribes
34.8 Slavka_tribes
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Jana]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.4273% / 0.01427321
48.8 Slavka_tribes
45.2 Germanic_tribes
6.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.9802% / 0.01980235
65.0 Germanic_tribes
34.8 Slavka_tribes
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

You belong to Slavka family rothaer.

[Jana]

Target: Feiichy_scaled_23_and_me
Distance: 1.7649% / 0.01764928

61.4 Slavka_tribes
33.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
5.4 Germanic_tribes

Target: Feiichy_scaled_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.6541% / 0.01654149

69.4 Slavka_tribes
30.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Germanic_tribes

[mariusz99]

Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.4761% / 0.01476069 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.4 Slavka_tribes
18.6 Germanic_tribes

As always great job.

[Duke]

Target: duke_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6877% / 0.00687666
58.0 Slavka_tribes
35.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
5.6 Germanic_tribes
1.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe


I wonder for some time, what is this Distance: 0.6877% / 0.00687666

[Jana]

Target: duke_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6877% / 0.00687666
58.0 Slavka_tribes
35.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
5.6 Germanic_tribes
1.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe


I wonder for some time, what is this Distance: 0.6877% / 0.00687666

It's distance below 1 which means extremely close fit and thus realistic breakdown of your ancient ancestry. Anything below 2 is considered a good fit.
simulated coords always give much lower distance than real ones though, so with your real coords distance wouldn't be so extremely low but it will still be excellent for sure.

[Duke]

It's distance below 1 which means extremely close fit and thus realistic breakdown of your ancient ancestry. Anything below 2 is considered a good fit.
simulated coords always give much lower distance than real ones though, so with your real coords distance wouldn't be so extremely low but it will still be excellent for sure.

Interesting, suspected something like that, but how come on bunch of these different calcs, I get lower number than majority, why is that?

[Gergő Marosvári]

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.2714% / 0.01271392
59.2 Slavka_tribes
29.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
8.8 Germanic_tribes
2.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.2714% / 0.01271392
30.8 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
25.6 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
18.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741
9.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
3.8 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316
3.4 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
2.8 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
2.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:CS465
1.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
1.6 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_military_leade r:FGD4

[rothaer]

You belong to Slavka family rothaer.

Well, I live in the area of "The Wendish League of Cities". https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendischer_St%C3%A4dtebund

Translation:

"The Wendish League of Cities was formed in 1259 between Lübeck, Stralsund, Wismar, Kiel and Rostock. It served to secure trade routes on land and at sea and is considered the nucleus of both the later Wendish Quarter and the German Hanseatic League as a whole. Its roots lay in the alliance between Hamburg and Lübeck of 1230, contractually established in 1241. It was strengthened by Lüneburg, traditionally allied with Hamburg, and later by the Pomeranian cities of Greifswald, Stettin and Anklam. Some of these cities were also united in the Wendish Mint Association. The name is derived from the Elbe-Slavic people of the Wends."

[Beowulf]

Just wanted to try for my Grandmother:

Target: Abuela
Distance: 1.7064% / 0.01706398
42.2 Iberian_Penninsula
27.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
17.0 Slavka_tribes
11.2 Germanic_tribes
2.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[CommonSense]

Target: CommonSense_illustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.5608% / 0.01560829
53.0 Slavka_tribes
46.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: CommonSense_simulated
Distance: 0.6332% / 0.00633178
53.2 Slavka_tribes
46.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Dušan]

Quite similar to FTDNA result before update:

https://i.imgur.com/Ea9hLVg.png

https://i.imgur.com/1QDXNLb.png

[Hulu]

Why did you choose that as source of Slav instead of Ukrainian or Polish?

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.1966% / 0.02196622
89.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
9.4 Slavka_tribes
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.1966% / 0.02196622
34.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746
18.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
18.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
10.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042
9.4 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
4.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
4.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15462
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:KV3369

It disappears at 0.5 though


Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.4519% / 0.02451900 | ADC: 0.5x RC
27.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
22.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746
19.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
16.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
7.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15462
3.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Novo _selo_Bunje:R3547
2.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744

[rothaer]

Target: CommonSense_illustrativeDNA
Distance: 1.5608% / 0.01560829
53.0 Slavka_tribes
46.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: CommonSense_simulated
Distance: 0.6332% / 0.00633178
53.2 Slavka_tribes
46.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

IllustrativeDNA actually gives you real G25 coords. You can discard your simulated coords forever. You also don't mix a Rolex with a fake Rolex.

[Duke]

IllustrativeDNA actually gives you real G25 coords. You can discard your simulated coords forever. You also don't mix a Rolex with a fake Rolex.

Ye, but seing how difference is so minuscule, Balkan in me would go with fake rolex anytime :D

[Occiput in Starlight]

Target: OiS_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7299% / 0.00729891
51.6 Slavka_tribes
48.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 0.9235% / 0.00923517
64.4 Slavka_tribes
30.0 Germanic_tribes
5.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval :cool:

[MandM]

Target: wify_scaled
Distance: 1.9906% / 0.01990564
53.0 Slavka_tribes
45.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
2.0 Germanic_tribes

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.0488% / 0.02048773
59.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
39.8 Slavka_tribes
1.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[rothaer]

Ye, but seing how difference is so minuscule, Balkan in me would go with fake rolex anytime :D

You may have had luck, lol. Here's a depiction of the deviations between real and simulated coords in the North Europe PCA.

https://i.imgur.com/XUU9LTH.jpg

[rothaer]

Target: cass
Distance: 0.9235% / 0.00923517
64.4 Slavka_tribes
30.0 Germanic_tribes
5.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval :cool:

I think that Arthur Greiser here would have considered Deutsche Volksliste, Abteilung III. :p

[Duke]

You may have had luck, lol. Here's a depiction of the deviations between real and simulated coords in the North Europe PCA.

https://i.imgur.com/XUU9LTH.jpg

Ok I get it, and... congrats on that many children.
:D

[cass]

I think that Arthur Greiser here would have considered Deutsche Volksliste, Abteilung III. :p
It was Albert Forster :P
And most West Prussians were forced to accept the list.

[Voskos]

Target:
Distance: 2.3843% / 0.02384251
46.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042
19.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741
12.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Novo _selo_Bunje:R3547
10.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
8.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
2.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663

[rothaer]

It was Albert Forster :P
And most West Prussians were forced to accept the list.

I know and this is why I refer to Arthur Greiser. :cool: He developed the Deutsche Volksliste (DVL) in the RG Wartheland and Forster and the currently not recalled by me Gauleiter in Upper Silesia misused the rules of the DVL by granting the DVL Abt. III (even somewhat forcefully as you said) to kind of everyone. In contrast to this Greiser essentially stuck perfectly to the rules and did not inflationate the issuing of Abt. III.

[Jana]

Why did you choose that as source of Slav instead of Ukrainian or Polish?

Because it's ancient samples calc, and Ukrainians/Poles aren't entirely Slavic.

[Jana]

Interesting how my results vary and both are actual coords issued by Davidski.

[Jana]

Interesting, suspected something like that, but how come on bunch of these different calcs, I get lower number than majority, why is that?

sim coords for some reason do that :p

[Jana]

Well, I live in the area of "The Wendish League of Cities". https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendischer_St%C3%A4dtebund

Translation:

"The Wendish League of Cities was formed in 1259 between Lübeck, Stralsund, Wismar, Kiel and Rostock. It served to secure trade routes on land and at sea and is considered the nucleus of both the later Wendish Quarter and the German Hanseatic League as a whole. Its roots lay in the alliance between Hamburg and Lübeck of 1230, contractually established in 1241. It was strengthened by Lüneburg, traditionally allied with Hamburg, and later by the Pomeranian cities of Greifswald, Stettin and Anklam. Some of these cities were also united in the Wendish Mint Association. The name is derived from the Elbe-Slavic people of the Wends."


Quite similar to FTDNA result before update:

https://i.imgur.com/Ea9hLVg.png

https://i.imgur.com/1QDXNLb.png

wow, very cool :cool:

[Duke]

sim coords for some reason do that :p

i noticed that on this thread, when using sim, you get lower numbers, probably its because its more generic :thumb001:

[Jana]

I think that Arthur Greiser here would have considered Deutsche Volksliste, Abteilung III. :p

Kashubs high Germanic input is east Germanic from early medieval like Gothic rather than recent German, or?

[Vitez]

Slava Slavenima !

Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 1.2133% / 0.01213310
61.6 Slavka_tribes
35.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
3.4 Germanic_tribes

[rothaer]

Interesting how my results vary and both are actual coords issued by Davidski.

The MyH one of them has assumingly just abt. 1/3 of the number of SNPs evaluated compared to the 23andMe V4 raw data (this is the approximate realtionship in most GEDmatch calculators by Eurogenes). It would have been surprising if 200% more evaluated SNPs compared to MyH would not have mattered. :p

[rothaer]

Kashubs high Germanic input is east Germanic from early medieval like Gothic rather than recent German, or?

That's an unsettled extensive dispute between me and Peterski. Peterski says yes and I say we don't know (can not yet determine).

[cass]

That's an unsettled extensive dispute between me and Peterski. Peterski says yes and I say we don't know (can not yet determine).

From what I see a local ancient element.
https://i.ibb.co/JBMFp02/K4bIxbj.png (https://ibb.co/h7t1dhH)

[Hulu]

Because it's ancient samples calc, and Ukrainians/Poles aren't entirely Slavic.

Ancient samples from those areas I meant.

[Jana]

Ancient samples from those areas I meant.

There aren't any suitable ones. Edit: added one that's fine.

[Jana]

Cass and rothaer wife actually have mirroring inverted results.

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.5854% / 0.03585351
53.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
46.4 Germanic_tribes

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.5734% / 0.03573410
61.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
38.6 Germanic_tribes

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 4.0351% / 0.04035094
58.4 Germanic_tribes
41.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

And adding some late antiquity&early medieval Iberian individuals : later Iron Age from Cantabria , West Miroico&Conimbriga from Portugal (not all of them), and Early medieval from Catalonia to get closer distances.


Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I19987,0.1252 05,0.156392,0.06675,0.000323,0.050471,0,-0.002115,0.009461,0.031497,0.04319,-0.00682,0.008992,-0.024083,-0.019955,0.016151,-0.008618,-0.011474,0.009375,-0.004902,-0.01113,0.015348,0.000247,-0.010353,-0.02663,-0.003592
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I19991,0.1263 44,0.15436,0.059585,0.011305,0.055395,-0.001394,-0.000235,0.005538,0.034155,0.042643,0.004709,0.008 692,-0.02334,-0.017616,0.010993,0.017369,0.001956,0.001014,0.000 377,-0.007003,0.010981,0.000495,-0.005176,-0.006145,0.002036
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:R10487,0.1172 38,0.142174,0.04714,0.010659,0.044931,0.000837,0.0 0705,0.001385,0.026588,0.025149,-0.001786,0.01124,-0.017096,-0.0139,0.010858,0.013922,0.010822,0.001014,-0.000251,0.01038,0.00861,0.000247,-0.002711,-0.010965,0.002994
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:R10488,0.1081 32,0.152329,0.051288,0.006137,0.057549,0.006136,0. 00094,0.005077,0.036814,0.033167,-0.005359,0.004196,-0.022745,-0.007019,0.016422,-0.005834,-0.009648,0.005954,0.004651,0.002626,0.00287,0.0044 51,-0.005053,-0.006025,-0.002874
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:R10500,0.1047 17,0.147252,0.0445,-0.002584,0.043393,-0.001952,-0.004935,-0.000462,0.034565,0.032802,0.000162,0.009591,-0.017542,-0.012524,0.017508,-0.013126,-0.016298,0.001394,-0.008799,-0.005127,0.004492,0.003586,-0.002218,0.00241,-0.008742
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:R10501,0.1013 03,0.13405,0.030924,-0.002907,0.0397,-0.001394,-0.004465,0.003,0.024338,0.032985,-0.008282,0.009741,-0.005649,-0.013074,0.002579,-0.002519,0.00013,-0.002534,-0.004651,-0.00075,0.004617,-0.000989,0.002465,-0.003494,0.000958
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:R10502,0.1013 03,0.140143,0.034695,-0.008721,0.044316,-0.013108,-0.001175,0.006692,0.025361,0.028247,-0.00747,0.005095,-0.006244,-0.01734,0.002714,-0.002652,-0.005085,-0.003167,-0.009804,-0.003252,0.006239,0.000742,-0.003328,-0.001687,0.003233
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I3777,0.12520 5,0.144205,0.050534,0.018088,0.041546,0.001116,0.0 04935,0.004615,0.02168,0.023873,-0.008282,0.012439,-0.006095,-0.009909,0.016015,0.002917,0.004955,0.005321,0.005 028,-0.00025,0.000374,-0.01286,-0.00037,0.001446,0.000718
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I7673,0.11154 7,0.147252,0.038843,0.009044,0.047701,-0.001394,-0.00376,0.010615,0.027202,0.02934,-0.007795,0.005395,-0.006838,-0.003441,0.008143,0.001193,-0.021513,0.003421,-0.006536,0.005753,-0.001373,0.011005,-0.010969,0.003374,-0.005269
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12031,0.1263 44,0.133034,0.039598,0.017119,0.03416,0.007809,0.0 09635,0.009461,0.002659,0.004738,-0.006658,-0.002548,-0.009068,-0.003165,0.002307,-0.003315,0.004303,0.003547,-0.008296,0.006128,-0.000499,0.001237,-0.002711,0.00482,-0.008263
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12032,0.1422 79,0.145221,0.04978,0.030039,0.03139,0.010877,-0.00047,0.013153,0.011862,0.011116,-0.006333,0.013038,-0.01888,-0.00234,0.004886,0.008221,0.004563,0.012162,0.0022 63,0.013006,0.010232,-0.000618,-0.001356,-0.002651,0.000838
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12034,0.1308 97,0.139128,0.0445,0.01615,0.052317,-0.001394,0.00047,0,0.021475,0.036447,-0.000974,0.0171,-0.019623,-0.009358,0.017644,0.009281,0.000522,-0.00152,-0.009804,-0.005503,0.006738,0.005688,-0.00493,-0.013616,-0.001197
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12162,0.1149 61,0.126941,0.046763,0.030685,0.043085,0.011713,0. 006815,0.000923,0.002863,0.006196,-0.010393,0.007343,-0.000297,-0.011147,0.005157,-0.005701,0.001173,0.003801,0.005656,0.002501,0.019 965,0.000371,-0.000616,0.014821,-0.002634
Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12163,0.1229 29,0.139128,0.05242,0.022287,0.028313,0.005857,0.0 0799,-0.001615,0.001841,0.000911,-0.005196,-0.001349,-0.015163,-0.004817,0.001221,0.01843,0.020079,-0.000253,0.00352,0.008004,-0.003494,0.003091,-0.003821,0.009399,-0.003233

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.0503% / 0.01050333
88.0 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval
12.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.6253% / 0.01625266
71.8 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval
25.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
2.4 Germanic_tribes

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.1981% / 0.01198098
81.2 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval
11.6 Germanic_tribes
7.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

[JerryS.]

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.8050% / 0.01804955
33.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
18.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741
16.6 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
8.4 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
7.6 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
6.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316
5.8 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
3.6 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001

[Jana]

average for rural north/central Croatia (Kajkavian speaking regions around capital Zagreb):

Target: North/Central_Croatia_average
Distance: 1.347807

60.5 Slavka_tribes
19.8 Germanic_tribes
19.1 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.7 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

double less Balkan input than other Croats and significant Germanic instead, while Slavic score is basically same in all Croatian regions.

[Jana]

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 1.0183% / 0.01018332

50.6 Slavka_tribes
35.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
11.4 Germanic_tribes
3.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[mariusz99]

What do you think?
My grandma and mom results. My grandma is 25% Lower Saxony and East Prussia. Her G25 from MH file is for me not so good. Without ancestors from Hannover would she have 100% Slavic results ? What do you think?


Target: grandmother_scaled
Distance: 1.7057% / 0.01705727
85.2 Slavka_tribes
14.4 Germanic_tribes
0.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe


Target: MariuszMom_scaled
Distance: 1.5608% / 0.01560793
74.2 Slavka_tribes
20.6 Germanic_tribes
5.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Interesting that my mom has more Germanic than her mother. West Balkan is possible. Her father looks like Ukrainian/Moldovan.

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.8848% / 0.02884805
76.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
14.8 Slavka_tribes
6.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe
2.2 Germanic_tribes

[Mortimer]

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 7.1382% / 0.07138229
68.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
31.6 Slavka_tribes

[Mortimer]

I forgot to add the Avar samples

With Avar samples

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 5.1658% / 0.05165776
75.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
14.6 Slavka_tribes
9.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 7.1382% / 0.07138229
68.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
31.6 Slavka_tribes

[Dušan]

Slavka = Slavic, but cuter

revamped previous similar calc. Don't bother if you aren't from the region and nearby. Scaled.


West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050,0.112685,0.148267,-0.001886,-0.0323,0.017849,-0.018965,0.001645,-0.004615,0.005727,0.019317,-0.002273,3e-04,-0.015609,0.005092,-0.007057,-0.00358,-0.001043,0.006714,0.011313,-0.016633,-0.009733,-0.005564,0.000986,-0.004338,-0.000359
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2051,0.119514,0.153345,0.012068,-0.033592,0.032314,-0.008646,0.00235,0.006,0.007567,0.02934,-0.003573,0.002098,-0.017393,-0.003028,-0.011265,-0.014717,0.000913,-0.011022,0.010307,0.000125,-0.024831,0.007296,-0.002835,0.007832,-0.006227
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053,0.114961,0.152329,0.020365,-0.015827,0.014772,-0.003904,-0.009635,0.000462,0.016566,0.02041,0.003735,3e-04,-0.00996,0.002064,-0.008143,-0.019888,-0.009127,-0.004181,0.006788,-0.012381,-0.007861,-0.001113,0.005916,0.004458,0.003473
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3543,0.114961,0.151314,0.008297,-0.028424,0.022158,-0.011156,0.006815,0.001154,-0.006749,0.029522,-0.005196,0.010491,-0.01115,-0.010046,-0.010858,-0.002254,-0.003651,0.001394,0.000503,-0.008129,-0.005989,-0.001484,-0.005176,0.003012,-0.000359
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544,0.114961,0.145221,0.017725,-0.026163,0.023081,-0.012829,0.00705,0.001385,0.007363,0.024784,0.0016 24,0.010341,-0.013974,0.001101,-0.007872,-0.005436,-0.001825,-0.00266,0.002263,-0.004127,0.004367,0.000742,-0.009737,-0.003253,0.002634
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3662,0.118376,0.149283,0.004525,-0.031654,0.029852,-0.003068,-0.002585,0.002077,0.013703,0.023691,0.003735,0.012 889,-0.013528,0.004679,-0.008686,-0.006364,-0.003651,-0.002534,-0.000251,-0.002876,0.000125,0.003215,-0.001109,-0.000723,0.001317
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663,0.1161,0.148267,0.017725,-0.00969,0.023081,-0.003068,-0.003995,-0.003923,0.001432,0.020593,0.00065,0.007943,-0.012339,0.005505,0.000271,-0.010475,-0.018775,0.009122,0,0.003627,-0.006364,-0.000742,-0.005916,0.004217,0.013172
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040,0.1161,0.150298,0.023759,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.005578,0.00517,0.002769,0.001841,0.018041,0.0047 09,0.01124,-0.009217,-0.004404,-0.002579,-0.011403,0.002086,0.002407,0.01433,-0.012256,-0.002246,0.005193,-0.000493,0.006748,-0.000599
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041,0.112685,0.144205,0.010559,-0.021964,0.026466,-0.005857,0.003995,-0.001615,-0.005727,0.017677,0.003897,0.001948,-0.008622,-0.016928,-0.009093,0.001061,0.004433,0.003167,-0.004525,-0.001251,-0.004742,0.002473,0.005916,-0.001566,0.006945
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042,0.091058,0.150298,-0.001131,-0.053295,0.022466,-0.022311,-0.001175,-0.000923,0.019225,0.014579,-0.000974,-0.003447,0.004311,-0.008945,0.006515,-0.00411,0.008866,-0.004687,-0.000377,-0.007128,-0.00262,0.00507,-0.001602,-0.003253,0.000838
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15462,0.108132,0.140143,0.004903,-0.044897,0.020311,-0.007251,0.00282,0.005538,-0.001432,0.027518,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.014271,-0.006744,-0.009908,0.012994,0.023991,-0.008488,0.004525,-0.00988,-0.007612,0.005688,0.003697,-0.003012,-0.001676
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463,0.1161,0.148267,0.010559,-0.023256,0.014772,-0.011713,0,0.002769,0.003068,0.011299,0.001624,0.0 02698,-0.011447,-0.004817,-0.011672,0.012729,0.026989,-0.000507,-0.001508,-0.002501,0.001373,-0.000618,-0.008627,0.001325,-0.000479
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741,0.120652,0.149283,0.000754,-0.028424,0.022158,-0.014781,-0.000235,0,-0.004909,0.010752,-0.001786,0.007943,-0.014271,-0.008945,-0.003257,0.010209,0.014864,-0.001014,-0.002891,0.000125,-0.003369,0.003462,-0.002465,0.010845,0.001197
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743,0.119514,0.149283,0.009805,-0.011951,0.024004,-0.006693,-0.00094,0.003461,0.005318,0.016219,0.004222,0.0055 45,-0.006244,0.004542,-0.006379,0.006364,0.007823,0.005068,0.003897,-0.004502,-0.007861,-0.004822,0.002342,-0.003976,0.001676
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744,0.114961,0.14319,-0.001886,-0.027778,0.026774,-0.022311,-0.00141,-0.001615,0.003681,0.019499,-0.004547,0.005395,-0.006095,-0.001376,-0.009093,0.018165,0.014994,-0.00076,0.00264,0.003377,0.000749,0.002349,0.00061 6,-0.00253,-0.001317
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Veli c:R3685,0.117238,0.146236,0,-0.027778,0.017849,-0.020638,-0.00329,-0.006692,-0.000818,0.021868,-0.000325,0.003897,-0.018434,-0.001514,-0.009908,0.009944,0.011474,-0.003421,0.00264,-0.002501,-0.004866,-0.004081,-0.002958,0.004699,-0.001557
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746,0.126344,0.155376,0.012068,-0.047804,0.026774,-0.015339,-0.000235,-0.000923,0.014521,0.045377,0.006496,0.012889,-0.01219,-0.009909,-0.019815,-0.001061,0.018515,0.002914,0.009176,-0.008254,-0.013476,-0.001731,-0.006162,0.003133,-0.005029
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747,0.120652,0.148267,0.017348,-0.022287,0.032929,-0.013387,-0.00141,-0.003692,0.015953,0.018953,-0.002436,0.006444,-0.010555,-0.001514,-0.007057,-0.00305,-0.00339,0.002407,0.003017,-0.008004,0.006364,0.008903,0.002588,0.002651,-0.008023
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3743,0.119514,0.162485,0.009805,-0.028747,0.028005,-0.012271,0.00188,0.005538,0.00409,0.034989,0.00958 1,0.003747,-0.008028,0.001101,-0.017508,-0.012994,-0.000261,0.003294,0.004777,-0.012256,-0.007612,0.00371,0.002095,0.005181,-0.002155
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3744,0.114961,0.152329,0.012445,-0.021641,0.022773,-0.016733,-0.00517,-0.001385,0.001227,0.0277,-0.008931,0.00045,-0.019326,-0.011147,-0.007057,-0.007955,-0.000391,0.000507,0.005656,0.001876,-0.003743,0.003215,0.004437,-0.004097,0.001557
West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Novo _selo_Bunje:R3547,0.111547,0.148267,0.001886,-0.033269,0.022773,-0.012829,0.00235,-0.004846,0.003272,0.018224,-0.000812,0.006444,-0.010406,0.004542,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.00326,-0.007095,-0.004399,0.001376,-0.012104,-0.000866,0.003451,0.001687,0.001796
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355,0.124 067,0.137096,0.064488,0.054264,0.048009,0.021753,0 .001175,0.002077,0.002659,0.008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c,0.11723 8,0.133034,0.069013,0.059109,0.030467,0.013666,0.0 08695,0.013615,-0.002659,0.001276,-0.003897,0.006744,-0.015015,-0.003165,0.018594,0.005834,-0.002608,0.006841,0.005531,-0.00338,0.006738,0.006801,-0.004437,0.014942,0.006706
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1,0.118376,0. 129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014101 ,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10,0.12862,0. 132019,0.065242,0.047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.00634 5,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255,0.118376,0 .140143,0.060716,0.049742,0.041546,0.006693,0.0206 81,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316,0.125205, 0.12491,0.071653,0.057494,0.040315,0.03012,0.01997 6,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001,0.129758 ,0.122879,0.07203,0.068476,0.044316,0.025937,0.012 221,0.013615,-0.005727,-0.024602,-0.002761,-0.007943,0.011447,0.018441,-0.014251,0.011403,0.021383,-0.005954,0.003645,0.002126,0.000873,-0.009398,0.009244,-0.005784,-0.000479
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004,0.134311 ,0.126941,0.089,0.07752,0.050779,0.029284,0.00094, 0.00923,0.004909,-0.016401,0.001949,-0.008842,0.020664,0.019818,-0.006515,0.005701,0.00665,0.0019,0.00817,0.007128,-0.010731,-0.000989,0.003451,-0.014942,-0.003712
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005,0.127482 ,0.13405,0.069013,0.068799,0.049548,0.021753,0.009 635,0.015461,-0.006545,-0.021139,-0.004709,-0.009442,0.010406,0.02257,-0.006515,-0.004508,0.009909,-0.001774,0.006411,0.006753,-0.008235,-0.002968,0.006655,-0.00482,0.000239
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006,0.129758 ,0.120848,0.065242,0.061047,0.043085,0.022869,0.00 564,0.012923,-0.001432,-0.020228,-0.000487,-0.010041,0.013379,0.024772,-0.011808,-0.012198,-0.00339,-0.004814,-0.000503,-0.004752,0.001248,0.000247,0.007148,-0.010845,0.002395
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007,0.125205 ,0.131003,0.082212,0.067184,0.047701,0.02761,0.008 46,0.011538,-0.000205,-0.035718,0.001949,-0.006594,0.01888,0.02202,-0.009365,-0.01485,-0.002868,0.000887,-0.003017,0.005503,0.000749,0.000989,0.00037,-0.003976,0.007664
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA008,0.132035 ,0.129988,0.078064,0.066215,0.037853,0.018965,0.00 5405,0.009923,0.001432,-0.021868,-0.006496,-0.008243,0.015758,0.011147,-0.011536,0.009944,0.020861,-0.00228,0.002514,0.003126,-0.004617,0.000124,0.000493,-0.005663,0.001676
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009,0.129758 ,0.129988,0.064111,0.064923,0.039392,0.021196,0.00 893,0.011307,0.000205,-0.028793,-0.003085,-0.009891,0.017988,0.023258,-0.010722,0.006629,0.007693,0.00114,0.004651,0.0098 8,-0.01123,0.000495,0.003944,-0.008796,-0.001197
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010,0.129758 ,0.12491,0.065619,0.059755,0.044624,0.02761,0.0124 56,0.013153,0.000205,-0.023873,-0.007307,-0.010641,0.011596,0.021056,-0.0057,-0.010342,-0.007041,-0.007221,0.005908,-0.007879,-0.000749,-0.001237,0.002958,-0.005904,-0.002036
Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011,0.130897 ,0.132019,0.082212,0.069768,0.050163,0.026216,0.01 2926,0.009923,0.002454,-0.019135,-0.002111,-0.008692,0.014717,0.023533,-0.012486,-0.011005,-0.004172,0.002154,0.006034,0.006003,-0.006738,-0.01014,0.007395,-0.004217,0.003592
Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.135449,0.12897 2,0.080704,0.063954,0.034776,0.034025,0.006815,0.0 07615,0.009613,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.005245,0.010852,0.026561,-0.014658,-0.002254,0.002347,0.001267,0.01081,-0.001751,0.001622,-0.002844,0.009613,-0.008314,0.005389
Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.1350 65,0.075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0. 020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:CS465,0. 0387,-0.384886,0.082589,-0.02261,-0.075091,-0.035698,0.018096,0.027922,0.007976,0.014032,-0.017051,3e-04,0.000149,0.001927,0.001764,-0.004906,0.000391,0.000507,0.005531,0.016508,-0.020464,0.002844,-0.020706,-0.000964,-0.000838
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:KV3369,0 .042115,-0.376761,0.101823,-0.027132,-0.091402,-0.049085,0.025146,0.02746,0.007567,0.012757,0.0027 61,0.005545,-0.006541,-0.000688,0.003257,0.004375,0.001173,0.002534,0.006 662,0.013006,-0.018467,-0.005688,-0.008997,-0.001687,0.006586
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_leader:KFP7,0. 030732,-0.404181,0.09692,-0.027455,-0.080323,-0.053826,0.021621,0.025845,0.015135,0.018041,-0.024033,-0.002997,-0.003568,0.018441,0.011265,-0.003447,0.001043,-0.008235,0.002514,0.016633,-0.019965,-0.009645,-0.015899,0.000964,0.00012
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_military_leade r:FGD4,0.0387,-0.377777,0.080327,-0.01292,-0.075399,-0.044065,0.016216,0.018922,0.002863,0.006743,-0.023384,0.002398,0.000595,0.000413,0.010315,0.002 254,-0.003912,-0.006461,0.003771,0.015883,-0.01148,-0.005317,-0.01861,-0.003976,-0.002874
Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_middlelate_Avar_elite:KV3 456,0.043253,-0.365591,0.101445,-0.013566,-0.081554,-0.035977,0.016686,0.025614,0.01309,0.012939,-0.020786,0.001499,-0.001933,-0.001651,0.001086,0.013524,0.007953,-0.004434,0.006159,0.018884,-0.027576,-0.006554,-0.023417,0.007953,0.003233

Could you make similar calculator in K36 format?

[alexmegas777]

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.0495% / 0.02049530 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
31.6 Slavka_tribes
12.6 Germanic_tribes

[retfala]

Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 0.3790% / 0.00379026
56.0 Slavka_tribes
40.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
2.6 Germanic_tribes
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Hulu]

There aren't any suitable ones. Edit: added one that's fine.

Thanks. I would be interested to see Ukraine or Russian too if you can find it.

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.1932% / 0.02193170
33.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746
18.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
17.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
9.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042
8.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
5.6 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
3.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15462
3.0 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:KV3369


Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03512853 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
0.03553922 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
0.03585399 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Veli c:R3685
0.03672879 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
0.03877997 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
0.03985249 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15462
0.04097263 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Novo _selo_Bunje:R3547
0.04129521 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544
0.04133894 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041
0.04264150 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3743
0.04318311 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741
0.04369971 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3744
0.04499747 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746
0.04507702 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3543
0.04591513 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3662
0.04598824 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747
0.04720761 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040
0.04849851 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2051
0.05341013 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053
0.05510167 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042
0.06184957 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663
0.12728529 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
0.12814803 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
0.12828536 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.12855890 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10

Removing Balkan:

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.12728529 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
0.12828536 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.12855890 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
0.13015361 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
0.13605190 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
0.13645150 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
0.13774529 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA008
0.13848735 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
0.13959533 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005
0.14322712 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
0.14419983 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316
0.14439793 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.14938197 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.15000399 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.15308849 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.15705452 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.53752329 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_middlelate_Avar_elite:KV3 456
0.54589426 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_military_leade r:FGD4
0.54917763 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:KV3369
0.55192169 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_elite:CS465
0.57612598 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_leader:KFP7

[Jana]

Could you make similar calculator in K36 format?

would love too, unfortunately there are not many ancient samples converted to k36 :(
pity because it's best calc gedmatch offers.

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.7589% / 0.01758895
42.0 Germanic_tribes
33.8 Slavka_tribes
24.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 2.2671% / 0.02267093
72.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
27.8 Germanic_tribes


With Gixajo's coordinates:

Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 1.1926% / 0.01192558
48.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
48.2 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval
3.2 Germanic_tribes



Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 1.1926% / 0.01192558
19.8 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I19987
19.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747
16.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041
13.8 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I7673
9.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
9.8 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12034
4.0 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:R10487
3.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
3.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2042
0.8 Iberia_late_antiquity_early_medieval:I12162

[cakmir7y]

I like that all your calcs are giving me consistent results

Target: Miroslav_scaled
Distance: 1.5894% / 0.01589381
63.6 Slavka_tribes
18.2 Germanic_tribes
17.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum(akaPrvislavPravislavljevic)_scaled
Distance: 1.4258% / 0.01425766
47.8 Slavka_tribes
28.0 Germanic_tribes
24.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Distance to: G25noricum(akaPrvislavPravislavljevic)_scaled
0.04395745 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
0.04656467 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
0.04778860 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
0.05393635 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005
0.05399261 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.05445078 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.05580246 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
0.05591217 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
0.05593206 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.05902464 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
0.05990614 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA008
0.06065978 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06217691 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316
0.06347818 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.06517303 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
0.06649857 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
0.06933787 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.08082565 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040
0.08313561 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663
0.08597006 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
0.08662948 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053
0.09223823 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747
0.09719557 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544
0.09829624 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041
0.10205198 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3744

non aggregated
Target: G25noricum(akaPrvislavPravislavljevic)_scaled
Distance: 1.4258% / 0.01425766
24.8 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
24.2 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
16.6 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
16.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053
6.8 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
6.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746
3.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
1.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
0.2 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2

[ZeDude]

Target: ZeDude
Distance: 1.6861% / 0.01686138
67.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
32.2 Slavka_tribes
0.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Far_away]

Target:SLAVKA
Distance: 1.5897% / 0.01589655
54.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
45.2 Slavka_tribes


Distance: 1.5897% / 0.01589655
26.8 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
25.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3746
16.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
10.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741
8.8 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
7.2 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005
2.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
2.4 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2

[Figaro]

Mom's half Slavic (although not Balkan), so I hope I'm not out of line here- although this could be a way to determine if she has any Wallachian DNA?

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.1102% / 0.01110231
58.8 Slavka_tribes
24.4 Germanic_tribes
15.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_scaled
Distance: 0.8590% / 0.00858969
92.4 Slavka_tribes
3.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
3.4 Germanic_tribes
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

_____________________

I just love the new term Slavka, which describes me almost fully ;)

[alnortedelsur]

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[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.5731% / 0.02573074
66.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
20.4 Germanic_tribes
6.6 Sub-Saharan_Africa
6.4 Americas

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.6350% / 0.02635016 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
17.4 Germanic_tribes
6.8 Americas
6.4 Sub-Saharan_Africa

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.7334% / 0.02733438 | ADC: 0.5x RC
69.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
17.6 Germanic_tribes
7.0 Americas
6.0 Sub-Saharan_Africa

[Katarzyna]

I got numerous messages from several of you, guys asking how I can be that much of slavic in those tests. Here are my breakdowns:

Target: Katarzyna_scaled
Distance: 0.8590% / 0.00858969
29.0 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
23.0 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
14.6 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
13.0 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
12.8 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
3.4 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
3.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe:HUN_early_Avar_leader:KFP7
0.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Veli c:R3685

I wonder, because the sample KRA001, which makes most of my results, itself is already over 20% Germanic, so I want to know if they kinda "filtered" that part out to isolate the Slav in it ? You can find the source in https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?22094-The-abandoned-Medieval-village-of-Krakauer-Berg-Sachsen-Anhalt-Germany/page7

[cass]

I got numerous messages from several of you, guys asking how I can be that much of slavic in those tests. Here are my breakdowns:



These are the peculiar sexual advances of foreigners. Don't trust these bastards at all.

[Katarzyna]

These are the peculiar sexual advances of foreigners. Don't trust these bastards at all.

Well, I am pretty sure they understand that theapricity is not the same as P*hub or tinder. That's common sense I guess xD

[cass]

Well, I am pretty sure they understand that theapricity is not the same as P*hub or tinder. That's common sense I guess xD


Some are gay and others are possessed by the beauty of Slavic women. I think Feiichy can confirm it. ;)

[Jana]

I wonder, because the sample KRA001, which makes most of my results, itself is already over 20% Germanic

Kra001 is not 20% Germanic.

[Jana]

best friend (western Croatia)

Target: Daki_scaled
Distance: 0.0118% / 0.01179847

69.1 Slavka_tribes
28.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
2.3 Germanic_tribes

former user Hrvoje/Nato ZG (Croat+Slovene)

Target: Hrvoje_scaled
Distance: 0.0132% / 0.01319332

52.7 Slavka_tribes
31.3 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
15.5 Germanic_tribes
0.5 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

mother's deceased partner (western Croatia)

Target: Nik_scaled
Distance: 0.0150% / 0.01502990

53.6 Slavka_tribes
28.1 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
17.9 Germanic_tribes
0.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

family friend (Slavonia, 1/4 Czech)

Target: Manda_scaled
Distance: 0.0126% / 0.01263719

73.7 Slavka_tribes
26.3 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

some other friends, western Croatia, 1/4 Dalmatia

Target: Grba_scaled
Distance: 0.0261% / 0.02610213

61.3 Slavka_tribes
38.7 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

from Zagreb

Target: Nikola
Distance: 0.0123% / 0.01227405

63.9 Slavka_tribes
22.7 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
13.4 Germanic_tribes

western Croatia

Target: David
Distance: 0.0154% / 0.01539947

60.6 Slavka_tribes
28.7 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
10.5 Germanic_tribes
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

south Dalmatia

Target: Dubrovnik_scaled
Distance: 0.0128% / 0.01282318

58.3 Slavka_tribes
41.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.3 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Dalmatia + central Croatia

Target: Dominik
Distance: 0.0130% / 0.01299501

62.6 Slavka_tribes
37.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

western central Croatia

Target: Martin_scaled
Distance: 0.0147% / 0.01465735

59.3 Slavka_tribes
20.6 Germanic_tribes
19.3 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

eastern central Croatia

Target: L
Distance: 0.0117% / 0.01170270

65.4 Slavka_tribes
17.5 Germanic_tribes
17.1 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Croat + Albanian

Target: Tommy_scaled
Distance: 0.0183% / 0.01825643

55.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
44.2 Slavka_tribes

extra:

Dalmatia, Hvar Island

Target: Vrbanj
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00917565

53.9 Slavka_tribes
38.7 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
6.0 Germanic_tribes
1.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

southern central Croatia (Banija)

Target: Zrin
Distance: 0.0115% / 0.01151200

60.2 Slavka_tribes
23.7 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
16.1 Germanic_tribes

north Croatia

Target: Varaždin_scaled
Distance: 0.0135% / 0.01354072

60.9 Slavka_tribes
22.0 Germanic_tribes
16.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.3 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Jana]

posting other Croatian TA members results, hope they don't mind

Target: Cassie (mix)
Distance: 0.0056% / 0.00564318

62.8 Slavka_tribes
34.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe
1.0 Germanic_tribes

Target: knez01 (Dalmatia)
Distance: 0.0133% / 0.01325325

58.5 Slavka_tribes
41.5 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: ph2ter_scaled (NW Croatia)
Distance: 0.0106% / 0.01064882

64.5 Slavka_tribes
22.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
12.9 Germanic_tribes
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Ljubic_scaled (Bosnia-Herzegovina)
Distance: 0.0144% / 0.01437054

55.9 Slavka_tribes
44.1 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

[rothaer]

I got numerous messages from several of you, guys asking how I can be that much of slavic in those tests. Here are my breakdowns:

However, I don't wonder about so high Slavic, there are a number of people that are. But: Do you have real (not simulated) G25 coords and if so, could you tell them?


I wonder, because the sample KRA001, which makes most of my results, itself is already over 20% Germanic, so I want to know if they kinda "filtered" that part out to isolate the Slav in it ? You can find the source in https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?22094-The-abandoned-Medieval-village-of-Krakauer-Berg-Sachsen-Anhalt-Germany/page7

What you linked is about KRA003. KRA001 is what can be assumed proto Slavic.

[Jana]

Maternal grandpa proxy (Dalmatian Island):

Target: Ćiro_Proxy
Distance: 0.0447% / 0.04474569

63.0 Slavka_tribes
35.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Mom_Scaled
Distance: 0.0192% / 0.01922247

52.9 Slavka_tribes
40.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
6.1 Germanic_tribes
0.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 0.0150% / 0.01498894

65.5 Slavka_tribes
32.1 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.8 Germanic_tribes
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

maternal grandaunt from Vojvodina (German + Serb + Greek + probably Hungarian)

Target: Zemun_scaled
Distance: 0.0158% / 0.01577647

43.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
28.5 Slavka_tribes
27.7 Germanic_tribes

[rothaer]

These are the peculiar sexual advances of foreigners. Don't trust these bastards at all.

A big surprise.

Katarzyna presents herself in her profile as single, Protestant (!) and writes "(...) I prefer to go for different Europeans than myself. Because, as you can see in most of my DNA results I am usually over 90% Slavic, so it's time for some mixing. ;) ".

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?243349-Are-you-more-attracted-to-your-own-race-or-another-race-outside-your-own&p=7718430&viewfull=1#post7718430

And now she feels the need to tell everyone that she got a lot of messages by "you guys".

This is obviously suitable for exciting the competitors additionally, LOL.

[Katarzyna]

Katarzyna presents herself in her profile as single, Protestant (!)".

Well, it’s part of characterisation. Same as talking about phenotypes, shoe sizes, hobbies, jobs or whatever. Religion and relationship status are just a part of it.




writes "(...) I prefer to go for different Europeans than myself. Because, as you can see in most of my DNA results I am usually over 90% Slavic, so it's time for some mixing. ".
)".


True, it’s my personal preference because you are usually attracted to what you don’t have. Still doesn’t mean that I am into every guy who fulfills that specific criteria. And I am sure most guys understand that it takes more than just providing a nice genetical result to impress a woman. :)



However, I don't wonder about so high Slavic, there are a number of people that are. But: Do you have real (not simulated) G25 coords and if so, could you tell them?
.

Unfortunately I only have simulated ones that I took from my K36 on Gedmatch. I think the only way to get real ones would be using IllustrativeDNA. But I don’t feel like paying over 20€ just for more precise results. Is there another way of getting real ones for free?

[rothaer]

Well, it’s part of characterisation. Same as talking about phenotypes, shoe sizes, hobbies, jobs or whatever. Religion and relationship status are just a part of it.



True, it’s my personal preference because you are usually attracted to what you don’t have. Still doesn’t mean that I am into every guy who fulfills that specific criteria. And I am sure most guys understand that it takes more than just providing a nice genetical result to impress a woman. :)




Unfortunately I only have simulated ones that I took from my K36 on Gedmatch. I think the only way to get real ones would be using IllustrativeDNA. But I don’t feel like paying over 20€ just for more precise results. Is there another way of getting real ones for free?

You are obviously advertising for a "Westerner" and in that context even inventing to be Protestant (though all the hypocricy proves you to be exactly a Catholic). This is the millionfold known in Germany "Eastern European Bride" track.

Though actually from the pure animalistic feeling not rejecting something like you (I must admit), I can say that I actually - in contrast to you - am attracted to my own kind. These are the ones that I consciously bred with.

I never told you a "nice genetic result" of mine, so I don't know what exactly you refer to.

I think that you have a really bad luck, dealing with me out of all that are here.

I understand that you don't have real coords. But you can get them for 12 US$ from Eurogenes (Davidski). Many here refuses this as they consider it to be kind of being jewed and I actually can relate to this. But in a factual way I did not yet find any inne droga to these things.

[rothaer]

(...) Is there another way of getting real ones for free?

Very, very unfortunately and annoyingly not.

[Katarzyna]

I never told you a "nice genetic result" of mine, so I don't know what exactly you refer to.
I think that you have a really bad luck, dealing with me out of all that are here.
.

Well, you are not on my dating radar anyways, so I do not see a reason to further explore your dna results. And therefore I do not have to deal with you.
I like people who educate themselves before making assumptions, especially when you are a friend of Apricity. Claiming that someone from Poland can not be a Protestant unless he converted is total bs. Especially in my region which has still a lot of Prussian remains being Protestant is nothing uncommon at all.

About the G25 coords I am really sorry. But i think it makes more sense to get completely new raw data by a different company than my previous test. One, which already has G25 results included. I am thinking about getting it from DNAGenics, but unfortunately their swabs aren’t available yet.

[rothaer]

Well, you are not on my dating radar anyways, so I do not see a reason to further explore your dna results. And therefore I do not have to deal with you.
I like people who educate themselves before making assumptions, especially when you are a friend of Apricity. Claiming that someone from Poland can not be a Protestant unless he converted is total bs. Especially in my region which has still a lot of Prussian remains being Protestant is nothing uncommon at all.

About the G25 coords I am really sorry. But i think it makes more sense to get completely new raw data by a different company than my previous test. One, which already has G25 results included. I am thinking about getting it from DNAGenics, but unfortunately their swabs aren’t available yet.

If you have G25 from IllustrativeDNA that is actually flawless data.

Protestant Poles are mostly Polonised Germans and they regularly don't have above 90% Slavic.

I wasn't aware of that being "on my dating radar" was a requirement for talking about genetics with you but I'm thankful for your open clarification. :thumb001:

[Jana]

Protestant Poles are mostly Polonised Germans and they regularly don't have above 90% Slavic.

Don't you have some Protestant Polish ancestors? :p

[Jana]

Around 90% and plus Slavic is standard Polish result. Friend Polish girlfriend from Mazovia:

Target: L
Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01634185

92.7 Slavka_tribes
5.7 Germanic_tribes
1.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

[Katarzyna]

Don't you have some Protestant Polish ancestors? :p

Actually being fully Polish and Protestant in a former Prussian area is really a thing. I have friends from my city where their grandparents or parents converted from Catholic to Protestant church because they did not like the strict rules in Catholic Church on divorce, abortion etc.. In that case I would not speak about converts in the current generation anymore, as they didn’t convert themselves but were born and baptised as Protestants.

In my own case I really descend from some Germanised Poles. One of my great-grandfathers was of German descends and kinda passed the religion to me. While the rest of my family is mainly real Polish, expelled from now Belarusian and Ukrainian territories.

[mariusz99]

Around 90% and plus Slavic is standard Polish result. Friend Polish girlfriend from Mazovia:

Target: L
Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01634185

92.7 Slavka_tribes
5.7 Germanic_tribes
1.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: Aneta_scaled
Distance: 2.2345% / 0.02234504 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.4 Slavka_tribes
11.6 Germanic_tribes

I would say even less, 85-88% Slavic is normal for Mazovia and Eastern Poland. She is also good example for that.

[Jana]

Target: Aneta_scaled
Distance: 2.2345% / 0.02234504 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.4 Slavka_tribes
11.6 Germanic_tribes

I would say even less, 85-88% Slavic is normal for Mazovia and Eastern Poland. She is also good example for that.

try without ADC please, no need for it

[Katarzyna]

If you have G25 from IllustrativeDNA that is actually flawless data.

Protestant Poles are mostly Polonised Germans and they regularly don't have above 90% Slavic.
:thumb001:


I wonder if there is a huge difference between the simulated K25 and the real ones. Because when i took my DNA test from Myheritage (thats where my swab is from) they gave me half Eastern European, a quarter Baltic and a quarter Scandinavian. But once I uploaded my raw data to GedMatch and made K36 coordinates which i then simulated into G25, suddenly I became an over 90% Slav.

I guess the only way to find out whether my current coordinates or the Myheritage estimate is incorrect is by buying the IllustrativeDNA. 120819

[rothaer]

Don't you have some Protestant Polish ancestors? :p

No, my 1/16 Polish ancestors were Catholic Poles from the Lodz area.

If you refer to etymologically Polish surnamed other ancestors of mine there were such f. i. in the Raudnitz / Rudzienice area. They were Germanised ultimately since abt. 1850 and they were Protestant since 1525 and actually lived in the first Protestant state in the world, the Duchy of Prussia.


(...) In my own case I really descend from some Germanised Poles. One of my great-grandfathers was of German descends and kinda passed the religion to me. While the rest of my family is mainly real Polish, expelled from former Belarusian and Ukrainian territories.

I see. A closer German ancestry would likely not have lead to over 90% "Slavic" ancestry (though not impossible).

Btw. you should feel comfortable with listening to me after I'm a direct descendant of both Zacharias Herrmann (1643-1716) and Samuel Hentschel (1635-1690) in Lissa / Leszno, that both at some time were "Generalsenior der Evangelisch-Augsburgischen Kirche in Großpolen". :bow00001:

[Jana]

I wonder if there is a huge difference between the simulated K25 and the real ones. Because when i took my DNA test from Myheritage (thats where my swab is from) they gave me half Eastern European, half Baltic and Scandinavian. But once I uploaded my raw data to GedMatch and made K36 coordinates which i then simulated into G25, suddenly I became an over 90% Slav.

I guess the only way to find out whether my current coordinates or the Myheritage estimate is incorrect is by buying the IllustrativeDNA. 120819

MyHeritage raw data is low quality and can give increased Slavic/eastern European. Simulated coords are additionaly eastern leaning too from what I've seen.
I have both 23andme and MyHeritage raw data real coords issued by Davidski and as you can see in first page my MH results (which are less accurate) give me higher Slavic/eastern European.

Maybe if you took high quality data test like Ancestry and than got real coords from David you would be less Slavic and more western.

Maybe.

[Karol Klačansky]

my results
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 1.8701% / 0.01870054
56.6 Slavka_tribes
34.6 Germanic_tribes
8.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Distance to: Karol_scaled
0.03629513 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA008
0.04234185 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
0.04407816 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
0.04685004 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005
0.04712679 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
0.04793985 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
0.05125353 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.05264957 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.05290042 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
0.05338573 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
0.05451369 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.05610868 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.05977322 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.06186729 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
0.06476675 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06984054 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316
0.07461341 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
0.10256485 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040
0.10471294 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
0.11034963 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663
0.11159388 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747
0.11372607 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041
0.11376161 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
0.11628194 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053
0.11743887 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544

My Fathers
Target: KarolSiskaFather_scaled
Distance: 1.2181% / 0.01218139
73.0 Slavka_tribes
18.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
8.6 Germanic_tribes
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Distance to: KarolSiskaFather_scaled
0.02992203 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA008
0.03634597 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
0.03769062 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
0.04040443 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005
0.04383657 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
0.04543280 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
0.04720945 Slavka_tribes:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.05216510 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
0.05276350 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.05410073 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.05430257 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.05590851 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.05835838 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
0.05874680 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.06729728 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
0.07456552 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:STR_316
0.07726886 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
0.09881445 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
0.09901900 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040
0.10583417 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663
0.10711700 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747
0.10757572 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
0.10794658 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041
0.10995245 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053
0.11259559 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544

[Katarzyna]

MyHeritage raw data is low quality and can give increased Slavic/eastern European. Simulated coords are additionaly eastern leaning too from what I've seen.
I have both 23andme and MyHeritage raw data real coords issued by Davidski and as you can see in first page my MH results (which are less accurate) give me higher Slavic/eastern European.

Maybe if you took high quality data test like Ancestry and than got real coords from David you would be less Slavic and more western.

Maybe.

Actually I think it‘s true. One of my great-cousins took the MyHeritage DNA test and he had almost the same results as me. When he transferred his raw data into simulated G25, he was also over 90% slavic, same as me. Then, he took an Ancestry test, spent more money on it, an .. his Slavic score dropped down to sweet 65%. After that I decided to also order an Ancestry test and then use their raw data for real G25 results.
As I do not trust MyHeritage anymore..

[rothaer]

I wonder if there is a huge difference between the simulated K25 and the real ones. Because when i took my DNA test from Myheritage (thats where my swab is from) they gave me half Eastern European, a quarter Baltic and a quarter Scandinavian. But once I uploaded my raw data to GedMatch and made K36 coordinates which i then simulated into G25, suddenly I became an over 90% Slav.

I guess the only way to find out whether my current coordinates or the Myheritage estimate is incorrect is by buying the IllustrativeDNA. 120819

As for the differences between real and simulated G25 coords I can provide this display at the North Europe PCA.

https://i.imgur.com/XUU9LTH.jpg

The differences are not all the same and in some cases they are very small, but you can not know in advance.

As for the MyHeritage evaluation, how to say? MyHeritage is not good in the topic of assessing ancestry. It's all about the evaluation of the raw data. The raw data per se from MyHerirtage is fine (altough providing notably less evaluated SNPs than AncestryDNA raw data) and not really to criticise. As I told, G25 coords can be achieved at Eurogenes (Davidski) directly for abt. 12 US$. But he makes much holidays and is not always available. I also have some more orders in the "pipeline".

[mariusz99]

Without ADC

Target: Aneta_scaled
Distance: 2.2174% / 0.02217395
86.4 Slavka_tribes
13.4 Germanic_tribes
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

G25 based on MH file. I think in her case, maybe exceptionally, Slavic is too low. We suspect her grandma had roots in Pomerania, but still not confirmed. So officially 97% Mazovia (3% should be India).

[rothaer]

Actually I think it‘s true. One of my great-cousins took the MyHeritage DNA test and he had almost the same results as me. When he transferred his raw data into simulated G25, he was also over 90% slavic, same as me. Then, he took an Ancestry test, spent more money on it, an .. his Slavic score dropped down to sweet 65%. After that I decided to also order an Ancestry test and then use their raw data for real G25 results.
As I do not trust MyHeritage anymore..

A good decision, actually.

[Karol Klačansky]

What do you think?
My grandma and mom results. My grandma is 25% Lower Saxony and East Prussia. Her G25 from MH file is for me not so good. Without ancestors from Hannover would she have 100% Slavic results ? What do you think?


Target: grandmother_scaled
Distance: 1.7057% / 0.01705727
85.2 Slavka_tribes
14.4 Germanic_tribes
0.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe


Target: MariuszMom_scaled
Distance: 1.5608% / 0.01560793
74.2 Slavka_tribes
20.6 Germanic_tribes
5.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Interesting that my mom has more Germanic than her mother. West Balkan is possible. Her father looks like Ukrainian/Moldovan.

poles have more germanic impute than slovaks yet many people calls slovaks a slavo-germanic mix

[Jana]

poles have more germanic impute than slovaks yet many people calls slovaks a slavo-germanic mix

Poles don't have much Germanic at all excluding Kashubs (who have a lot) and some authochtonous western Poles.
It's northern Croats who are among most Germanic Slavs actually, they can be even more Germanic than Slovenes from what I've seen.

And this is going under the radar.

[rothaer]

poles have more germanic impute than slovaks yet many people calls slovaks a slavo-germanic mix

Well, but we have this PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/2XoJiZ1.jpg

The sole Slovak is KarolFather_scaled btw. n=1 is admittedly poor but this is however the current state.

[Jana]

Czechs are overall most Germanic Slav nation of couse. But it's not so homogenously spread it seems. I posted my family friend who's quarter Czech and she is not Germanic at all, but very high Slavic instead.
I would be curious to see how Slavic/Germanic admix varies between Czech regions.

[Lemminkäinen]

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.9898% / 0.01989802
66.4 Slavka_tribes
28.4 Germanic_tribes
5.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Karol Klačansky]

Poles don't have much Germanic at all excluding Kashubs (who have a lot) and some authochtonous western Poles.
It's northern Croats who are among most Germanic Slavs actually, they can be even more Germanic than Slovenes from what I've seen.

And this is going under the radar.

Almost all the poles in this thread except for the one girl with MH results show up as being over double the amount of germanic as my Father and he is a western slovak. Poles are genetically more slavic and more germanic than slovaks simultaneously.

[Karol Klačansky]

an image of a pca doesn’t tell much, distanced would be better. a pole with higher balkanic ancestry is essentially slovak. I look like i plot closer to germans here than my father but the reality is my father and i share the closest distance. 2D PCA plots are poor at comparing something this detailed.

[Jana]

Almost all the poles in this thread except for the one girl with MH results show up as being over double the amount of germanic as my Father and he is a western slovak. Poles are genetically more slavic and more germanic than slovaks simultaneously.

cass is Kashub and Mariusz has recent German ancestry. I mean unmixed ethnic Poles.
Slovaks don't seem that Germanic yes, lower than Slovenes/north Croats but also significantly more Slavic than them.

btw Lucas is central Polish and almost 100% Slavic on all calculators.

[Karol Klačansky]

cass is Kashub and Mariusz has recent German ancestry. I mean unmixed ethnic Poles.
Slovaks don't seem that Germanic yes, lower than Slovenes/north Croats but also significantly more Slavic than them.

btw Lucas is central Polish and almost 100% Slavic on all calculators.

Peterski is also a central pole and he will show up with significantly more germanic than my father on this calf but also less balkan ancestry. I bet Lukasz will be 92% slav 6–8% Germanic on this calc.

tests where poles show up 100% slavic are usually using them as references, ancient calls should show more ancient ancestry.

also my father has higher end levels of germanic on most calls compared to other slovaks. Most slovaks are more balkanic shifted over noticed.

[rothaer]

Peterski is also a central pole and he will show up with significantly more germanic than my father on this calf but also less balkan ancestry. I bet Lukasz will be 92% slav 6–8% Germanic on this calc.

tests where poles show up 100% slavic are usually using them as references, ancient calls should show more ancient ancestry.

also my father has higher end levels of germanic on most calls compared to other slovaks. Most slovaks are more balkanic shifted over noticed.

With Lukas' general approval:

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 2.8515% / 0.02851524
53.4 Balt
43.0 Slav
3.6 Greek

Peterski is from Wielkopolska and by that essentially a westernmost Pole (red circle):

https://i.imgur.com/VGhMd4b.jpg

However, it would be very nice to have more G25 coords of 4/4 Slovaks.

[Jana]

Michal is southern Pole and he is also very Slavic, even eastern shifted with minor Finnic like touch.

[Karol Klačansky]

With Lukas' general approval:

Target: Lukasz_scaled
Distance: 2.8515% / 0.02851524
53.4 Balt
43.0 Slav
3.6 Greek

Peterski is from Wielkopolska and by that essentially a westernmost Pole (red circle):

https://i.imgur.com/VGhMd4b.jpg

However, it would be very nice to have more G25 coords of 4/4 Slovaks.

yes when considering old borders, still he is a full pole and my father is also a western slovak and will have less germanic than him.

yes we would need more slovak samples for G25 which i don’t have but i think i have simulated coordinates for my sister in law. Will check when i’m at home.

[Jana]

also my father has higher end levels of germanic on most calls compared to other slovaks. Most slovaks are more balkanic shifted over noticed.

I am very curious to see more Slovak results. I bet they are very highly Slavic (still lower than Poles ofc). But curious how much Balkan they are.

[Jana]

Karol can this result pass for Slovak? She's 3/4 Slavonian Croat and 1/4 Czech.

Target: Manda_scaled
Distance: 0.0126% / 0.01263719

73.7 Slavka_tribes
26.3 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

on gedmatch K13 clusters with west Ukrainians.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: ScandinavianCelt
Distance: 1.8741% / 0.01874056

82.4 Germanic_tribes
10.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
6.0 Slavka_tribes
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Karol Klačansky]

Michal is southern Pole and he is also very Slavic, even eastern shifted with minor Finnic like touch.

there many slovaks who will show up with very low percentages of germanic ancestry on this calc. I bet slovak average is around 6% on this calc. Polish average may be less but it wouldnt be by much. Main difference between slovaks and poles is significant balkanic ancestry compared to poles. This is also reflected in Ydna percentages. Slovaks have the same if not less germanic ydna than poles do.

[ScandinavianCelt]

If I add some distance using the genomena simulated coordinates:

Target: BRAD.GENO.MENA.K14.SIMS
Distance: 3.3256% / 0.03325630

32.2 Germanic_tribes: DEU_MA_Baiuvaric: NW_255
24.8 Slavka_tribes: POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
9.2 Germanic_tribes: DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric: STR_355
8.0 Slavka_tribes: DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg: KRA005
7.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval: HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15463
7.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_ early_medieval:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743
6.8 Slavka_tribes: DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
1.6 Slavka_tribes: DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
1.2 Germanic_tribes: DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
1.0 Slavka_tribes: DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg: KRA007
0.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_ early_medieval:HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2041

Aggregate:

Target: BRAD.GENO.MENA.K14.SIMS
Distance: 3.3256% / 0.03325629

42.8 Germanic_tribes
42.0 Slavka_tribes
15.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_ early_medieval


What do you guys get if you use those simulated coordinates?

[Jana]

If I add some distance using the genomena simulated coordinates:

Target: BRAD.GENO.MENA.K14.SIMS
Distance: 3.3256% / 0.03325630

32.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:NW_255
24.8 Slavka_tribes:POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
9.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_ACD_Baiuvaric:STR_355
8.0 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005
7.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
7.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3743
6.8 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001
1.6 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
1.2 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
1.0 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041

Aggregate:

Target: BRAD.GENO.MENA.K14.SIMS
Distance: 3.3256% / 0.03325629

42.8 Germanic_tribes
42.0 Slavka_tribes
15.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval


What do you guys get if you use those simulated coordinates?

what's your point of using this calculator? It won't work for you anyhow.

[Jana]

there many slovaks who will show up with very low percentages of germanic ancestry on this calc. I bet slovak average is around 6% on this calc. Polish average may be less but it wouldnt be by much. Main difference between slovaks and poles is significant balkanic ancestry compared to poles. This is also reflected in Ydna percentages. Slovaks have the same if not less germanic ydna than poles do.

Fully agree.

[Nausevar]

Feiichy, where did you get those samples from?

[Jana]

Feiichy, where did you get those samples from?

Davidski scaled ancient individual samples sheet. You have it on his blog.

[Nausevar]

Distance to: Nausevar_scaled
0.05173022 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15743
0.05717575 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2040
0.06208867 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Poliklinika:R3747
0.06558187 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sisa k_Pogorelec:R2041
0.06586575 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15463
0.06668394 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2053
0.06702951 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3544
0.06737686 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3663
0.07136109 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3744
0.07209658 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15744
0.07247892 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Sipa r:R3662
0.07347782 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Trog ir_Byz:I15741
0.07439503 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Zada r_Ulica:R3743
0.07453545 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Veli c:R3685
0.07523757 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Gard un:R3543
0.07583163 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Novo _selo_Bunje:R3547
0.07842417 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2051
0.07845048 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
0.07896827 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval:HRV_Omiš alj-Mirine:R2050
0.07920389 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_1
0.08030650 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
0.08069882 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009
0.08107635 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Alemannic:NIEcap12c
0.08131964 Germanic_tribes:DEU_MA_Baiuvaric:ALH_10
0.08205804 Slavka_tribes:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA005

Target: Nausevar_scaled
Distance: 1.8437% / 0.01843713
55.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
43.8 Slavka_tribes
0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[cass]

https://i.ibb.co/tzGbcG2/caamh.jpg (https://ibb.co/YXCt8Cd)

https://i.ibb.co/ZXC5qpt/slove.jpg (https://ibb.co/QQGLy3z)

https://i.ibb.co/SxqLhtP/bel.jpg (https://ibb.co/N3w489s)

[MCMXCV]

Using simulated G25 coordinates:

Target: MCMXCV
Distance: 0.6053% / 0.00605286
51.0 Slavka_tribes
26.6 Germanic_tribes
22.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Parent
Distance: 0.6565% / 0.00656463
42.6 Slavka_tribes
30.4 Germanic_tribes
27.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 1.0953% / 0.01095257
47.4 Slavka_tribes
28.6 Germanic_tribes
24.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: Grandparent 2
Distance: 0.8296% / 0.00829587
44.6 Germanic_tribes
40.4 Slavka_tribes
15.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

[Jana]

Using simulated G25 coordinates:

Target: MCMXCV
Distance: 0.6053% / 0.00605286
51.0 Slavka_tribes
26.6 Germanic_tribes
22.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Parent
Distance: 0.6565% / 0.00656463
42.6 Slavka_tribes
30.4 Germanic_tribes
27.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 1.0953% / 0.01095257
47.4 Slavka_tribes
28.6 Germanic_tribes
24.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Target: Grandparent 2
Distance: 0.8296% / 0.00829587
44.6 Germanic_tribes
40.4 Slavka_tribes
15.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Germanic as hell! More than my north Croats, notably more even. Do you have recent German heritage or do you think avg Slovenes will have similar levels to your family?
I'd like to see more ethnic Slovene results.

[MCMXCV]

Germanic as hell! More than my north Croats, notably more even. Do you have recent German heritage or do you think avg Slovenes will have similar levels to your family?
I'd like to see more ethnic Slovene results.

Based on the paper trail, I always say our ancestors are Slovenes, but it’s hard to say for sure for some of them. All of the known ones originate from present-day Slovenia — albeit some have surnames of Germanic origin which isn’t uncommon — and are from the countryside, which has predominantly been inhabited by ethnic Slovenes, unlike the situation in some urban centres. What keeps surprising me, though, is that Grandparent 2 always gets the most Germanic results in these third-party calculations despite having a lesser French & German estimate on 23andMe (17.1%) than Grandparent 1 (22.5%).

I’d say the averages for Slovenes vary depending on which part of Slovenia their ancestors are from, corresponding to which historical entity the said area was more affiliated with: Prekmurje — Hungary; Littoral — Italy; Carinthia, Upper Carniola and Styria (like my family) — Austria etc.

[rothaer]

https://i.ibb.co/tzGbcG2/caamh.jpg (https://ibb.co/YXCt8Cd)

https://i.ibb.co/ZXC5qpt/slove.jpg (https://ibb.co/QQGLy3z)

https://i.ibb.co/SxqLhtP/bel.jpg (https://ibb.co/N3w489s)

The modern individuals in Davidski's spreadsheet (taken mostly from HGDP and 1000Genomes) seem not really checked for their ancestry. Already if you require 4/4 grandparents from the same ethnicity many TA and Anthrogenica members that are labeld a particular ethnicity do not meet that. If you now exclude them from being displayed in an ethnicity group, these groups get notably narrower and more specific. This said, a notable part of the genetic diversity within an ethnicity in the Davidski spreadsheet can be considered caused by the aforementioned circumstances.

I can from my own experience say that it's pretty laborious to get correct information. You often simply get told wrong information and you have to ask again, implying the given answers may well be wrong, which socially is pushing the limits. I know this from collecting regional German references on some other social media platforms. You get irrelevant answers like "Our family can be traced back till the 14th century in Franconia!", where you by asking then find out that 50% or even 75% or the ancestry is totally ignored.

[Jana]

^^^^for eg these 2 "Slovenes" in Davidski sheet with high Slavic and zero Germanic are probably Croats/Bosnians vbn mentioned when he checked their matches on gedmatch.
yes his modern academic samples aren't very good.

[rothaer]

Based on the paper trail, I always say our ancestors are Slovenes, but it’s hard to say for sure for some of them. All of the known ones originate from present-day Slovenia — albeit some have surnames of Germanic origin which isn’t uncommon — and are from the countryside, which has predominantly been inhabited by ethnic Slovenes, unlike the situation in some urban centres. What keeps surprising me, though, is that Grandparent 2 always gets the most Germanic results in these third-party calculations despite having a lesser French & German estimate on 23andMe (17.1%) than Grandparent 1 (22.5%).

I’d say the averages for Slovenes vary depending on which part of Slovenia their ancestors are from, corresponding to which historical entity the said area was more affiliated with: Prekmurje — Hungary; Littoral — Italy; Carinthia, Upper Carniola and Styria (like my family) — Austria etc.

Interesting.

Grandparent 2 has more Germanic than the average regional Germans can be assumed to have.

After 23andMe's F&G is not equalling Germanic, I'd be curious as for the comparison of grandparent 1 and grandparent 2 if you include the whole "Northwest European" category.

If the mentioned by you result in tendency is still given, this suggests to me that the Germanic contribution is pretty old and thus spread along the genome in small fractions. 23andMe uses a smoothing technology where blocks of 100 SNPs are assigned entirely to a particular ancestry component along the majority within it. This way pretty old minor contribuitions are not shown, which is correct for 23andMe that states to want to idsplay the conditions at abt. 1500 AD.

Of course, real (not simulated) G25 coords of 4/4 Slovenes (meaning to have 4 ethnic Slovene grandparents) would be a desiderate.

Also I'd be curious as for the result of all four displayed individuals in the Feiichy G25 ancient Slavic calculator 2.2 scaled (source in the spoiler).


Balkan:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R3547___AD_571___Covera ge_57.30%,0.112685,0.144205,0.002263,-0.031654,0.021542,-0.010877,0.00517,-0.002538,0.001636,0.01877,0,0.006145,-0.00996,0.004817,-0.014386,-0.012463,-0.004303,-0.005954,-0.003394,-0.000875,-0.011729,0.000866,0.002218,-0.000482,0.000239
Balkan:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_500___Coverage_56.14%, 0.117238,0.141159,-0.001508,-0.030039,0.015387,-0.016733,-0.00376,-0.006461,-0.00225,0.020228,-0.00065,0.003297,-0.017096,-0.001789,-0.010586,0.007558,0.012386,-0.003294,0.001634,-0.004002,-0.004367,-0.001484,-0.001849,0.002771,-0.000359
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699___BC_350___Coverage_73. 92%,0.127482,0.152329,0.050534,0.005814,0.047701,0 .00251,0.004465,0.011307,0.02127,0.026606,-0.002598,0.006594,-0.009366,-0.004954,0.007736,-0.009149,-0.017602,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004627,0.000998,0.002349,-0.004067,-0.005543,-0.006347
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701___BC_350___Coverage_74. 10%,0.126344,0.145221,0.039598,0.000646,0.038469,0 .000279,0.00188,0.006923,0.006954,0.018041,-0.003085,0.005845,-0.014717,0.004129,0.002579,-0.009679,-0.012386,0.007221,0.013575,-0.002876,0.000998,-0.004451,0.004067,-0.00253,-0.006586
Celtic-like:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708___BC_350___Coverage_70. 39%,0.134311,0.146236,0.049026,0.008075,0.043085,0 .007809,0.001175,-0.000231,0.017589,0.021868,0.002273,0.007194,-0.007284,-0.008533,-0.005836,0.004508,0.019688,0.006461,0.004399,0.001 626,0.003369,0.001978,-0.010599,0.004579,-0.000359
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.127 957,0.067127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0. 014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.129 988,0.078818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0 .006692,0.005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10___AD_473___Coverage_95.60%,0.12862 ,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481,0.045239,0.023985,0.00 6345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%,0.132035 ,0.128972,0.076178,0.057494,0.04647,0.021196,0.006 815,0.011769,0.001227,-0.01221,-0.002436,-0.002398,0.000595,-0.009083,0.020765,0.0118,-0.010431,0.005701,0.006159,0.005753,0.013102,0.003 833,0,0.013496,-0.00012
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%,0.133173, 0.128972,0.068259,0.062662,0.035699,0.019522,0.002 585,0.009923,0.001432,-0.005832,0.001137,0.008992,-0.005946,-0.006881,0.024158,0.006232,-0.008084,-0.000253,-0.003017,0.009004,0.003244,0.005193,0.001109,0.014 219,0.003353
Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%,0.130897, 0.131003,0.057699,0.06137,0.044008,0.011713,0.0051 7,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%,0.122929,0 .139128,0.070144,0.067184,0.038469,0.018128,0.0061 1,0.006461,-0.000205,-0.009294,-0.000974,-0.00015,-0.008474,-0.00055,0.017372,-0.006629,-0.022296,0.005954,0.005908,-0.004627,0.015597,0.000742,0.007395,0.008555,0.002 634
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL145___AD_605___Coverage_70.96%,0.132035 ,0.139128,0.060339,0.067507,0.041854,0.018686,0.00 94,0.01223,0.001023,-0.009841,0.000812,0.006594,-0.00446,-0.001239,0.02918,-0.006364,-0.029336,0.004561,0.010056,0.003752,0.006489,0.010 263,-0.002465,0.017231,0.002634
Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838
Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%,0.135449, 0.132019,0.070144,0.04845,0.037238,0.013945,0.0079 9,0.020307,0.005522,0.002551,-0.013478,-0.001649,-0.005798,-0.004404,0.02348,0.005171,-0.023208,0.005321,0.004777,-0.003502,0.008735,0.008903,-0.00493,0.003615,0.001078
Finnic-like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754

[Jana]

just to add, I decided to ditch Celts because they were simply gone by late antiquity-early medieval in areas Slavs settled.

[noricum]

Using simulated G25 coordinates:

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 1.0953% / 0.01095257
47.4 Slavka_tribes
28.6 Germanic_tribes
24.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

I see vague similarity :cool:

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.4258% / 0.01425766
47.8 Slavka_tribes
28.0 Germanic_tribes
24.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Can you give me some info on his/her origins?

[MCMXCV]

Interesting.

Grandparent 2 has more Germanic than the average regional Germans can be assumed to have.

After 23andMe's F&G is not equalling Germanic, I'd be curious as for the comparison of grandparent 1 and grandparent 2 if you include the whole "Northwest European" category.

If the mentioned by you result in tendency is still given, this suggests to me that the Germanic contribution is pretty old and thus spread along the genome in small fractions. 23andMe uses a smoothing technology where blocks of 100 SNPs are assigned entirely to a particular ancestry component along the majority within it. This way pretty old minor contribuitions are not shown, which is correct for 23andMe that states to want to idsplay the conditions at abt. 1500 AD.

Of course, real (not simulated) G25 coords of 4/4 Slovenes (meaning to have 4 ethnic Slovene grandparents) would be a desiderate.

Also I'd be curious as for the result of all four displayed individuals in the Feiichy G25 ancient Slavic calculator 2.2 scaled (source in the spoiler).

It would make sense that the Germanic contribution is pretty old; I dare say it precedes church records which are scarce before the year 1600.


Here are the results using the same simulated coordinates:

Target: MCMXCV
Distance: 0.7355% / 0.00735517
40.6 (Balto-)Slavic
31.4 Germanic
19.8 Balkan
8.2 Celtic-like

Target: Parent
Distance: 0.7658% / 0.00765849
34.6 Germanic
32.0 (Balto-)Slavic
19.4 Balkan
14.0 Celtic-like

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 1.1181% / 0.01118124
40.2 (Balto-)Slavic
36.8 Celtic-like
16.8 Germanic
6.2 Balkan

Target: Grandparent 2
Distance: 0.6070% / 0.00606965
34.6 Germanic
34.0 (Balto-)Slavic
25.0 Celtic-like
6.4 Balkan

[MCMXCV]

I see vague similarity :cool:

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.4258% / 0.01425766
47.8 Slavka_tribes
28.0 Germanic_tribes
24.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval

Can you give me some info on his/her origins?

I see the similarity indeed!

Unfortunately, Grandparent 1 has the least researched ancestry of all of my grandparents due to many out-of-wedlock ancestors whose fathers are, consequently, unknown. But those whom I was able to trace are from this general area:

120879

What are your origins? Carinthia? :)
I’m particularly curious since one of my unknown great-great-grandparents (through Grandparent 1) is speculated to be someone with more recent northern Friulian and older Carinthian ancestry, and I wonder if it’s actually possible, also due to the fact that Grandparent 1 got the highest Celtic-like percentage in the estimate above. I’m aware it’s impossible to confirm it based solely on this, but their 23andMe results are also an outlier when compared to other three…

[noricum]

What are your origins? Carinthia? :)

https://voca.ro/1lSwOsJSHUGG

[MCMXCV]

https://voca.ro/1lSwOsJSHUGG

Lepo, da znate slovensko. Mi na severovzhodu države tudi narečno rečemo kelnarca. :cool:
Lep pozdrav v Labotsko dolino!

[noricum]

Lep pozdrav v Labotsko dolino!

Thanks, but I actually I live in Tyrol since 2004, btw. also haplogroup wise we are similar as R-BY96309 is a downstream of CTS1211. https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-BY96309/story

Which company did you test with?

[MCMXCV]

Thanks, but I actually I live in Tyrol since 2004, btw. also haplogroup wise we are similar as R-BY96309 is a downstream of CTS1211. https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/R-BY96309/story

Which company did you test with?

With 23andMe. But I’m considering taking a specific test for Y-DNA in the future.

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6938% / 0.01693840
57.0 Slavka_tribes
41.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Tie red]

Mom Serbian Krajina

Target: Mira_scaled
Distance: 1.2127% / 0.01212693
50.2 Slavka_tribes
48.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe


Dad flemish

Target: Pascal_scaled
Distance: 1.7984% / 0.01798424
78.0 Germanic_tribes
19.2 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
2.8 Slavka_tribes


Me

Target: Q_S_scaled
Distance: 1.3116% / 0.01311555
35.2 Germanic_tribes
32.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
31.8 Slavka_tribes
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[Selene]

Target: Cassie - simulated g25
Distance: 0.0056% / 0.00564318

62.8 Slavka_tribes
34.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.4 Avar_Eurasian_steppe
1.0 Germanic_tribes


Target: Cassie_scaled (Davidski g25)

Distance: 1.4541% / 0.01454066
65.6 Slavka_tribes
32.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[majevica]

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 1.8768% / 0.01876796
55.0 Slavka_tribes
44.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

[MandM]

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.0488% / 0.02048773
59.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
39.8 Slavka_tribes
1.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Aunt1_scaled
Distance: 1.4110% / 0.01411026
62.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
36.0 Slavka_tribes
1.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Sister
Distance: 1.7793% / 0.01779282
51.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
47.8 Slavka_tribes
0.6 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Mother_inlaw_scaled
Distance: 2.4914% / 0.02491372
55.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
44.0 Slavka_tribes
0.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Aunt2
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369052
61.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
36.2 Slavka_tribes
2.2 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Mother_scaled
Distance: 1.2909% / 0.01290850
57.8 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
37.0 Slavka_tribes
4.2 Germanic_tribes
1.0 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.9277% / 0.01927708
61.4 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
36.8 Slavka_tribes
1.8 Germanic_tribes

Target: wify_scaled
Distance: 1.9906% / 0.01990550
53.2 Slavka_tribes
45.0 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval
1.8 Germanic_tribes

[Abriekman]

I am starting to believe my father is partly Carpatho-Ruthenian/Slovak...

Target: Abriekman_Dad_scaled(Polish_Ukraine)
Distance: 1.5547% / 0.01554676 | ADC: 0.5x RC
83.4 Slavka_tribes
16.6 West_Balkan_late_antiquity_early_medieval