View Full Version : Paleo calc scaled.
Voskos
05-25-2023, 08:59 PM
RUS_Kostenki14,0.035285,0.015233,-0.010182,0.063954,0.017849,-0.00251,-0.004465,-0.007846,0.032519,0.007654,0.006658,-0.005545,0.004014,-0.016239,0.013436,0.024794,0.01004,-0.003421,-0.00729,0.015132,0.020713,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.051212,-0.004071
GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111, 0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018 041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
RUS_Ust_Ishim,-0.050082,-0.11577,-0.090886,0.073644,0.027082,-0.018128,-0.00376,-0.004384,0.0452,0.010387,0.006008,-0.001798,0.000149,-0.003991,0.004614,-0.001724,-0.004955,0.004687,-0.005154,0.015382,0.006613,0.008532,-0.007641,-0.014942,0.007784
RUS_MA1,0.078538,-0.025388,0.039598,0.186049,-0.068936,0.04518,-0.048412,-0.056998,-0.019839,-0.069432,0.029879,-0.009591,0.015312,-0.045553,0.014251,0.021082,-0.007693,0,-0.003645,0.000625,-0.027327,0.002844,0.011339,-0.008314,-0.001437
CHN_Amur_River_14100BP,0.013659,-0.445817,0.063356,-0.040698,-0.035699,-0.031515,0.003525,0.005077,0.009204,0.010752,-0.050016,-0.004796,-0.003419,0.00578,-0.004343,-0.005304,0.00339,0.007348,0.011564,0.00963,0.01484 9,-0.018177,-0.019843,-0.013737,-0.01892
CHL_LosRieles_10900BP,0.044391,-0.304659,0.118416,0.101099,-0.111098,-0.012829,-0.291648,-0.349832,-0.010022,-0.022597,0.005359,-0.003897,-0.004014,0.018854,-0.008822,0.006895,0.008475,0.000507,0.000754,0.008 004,0.001248,-0.000989,0.005916,-0.000602,-0.000958
ETH_Mota,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
Got the Dzudzuana coords from gixajo's thread.Thanks.
Voskos
05-25-2023, 09:00 PM
Target: voskos
Distance: 10.1131% / 0.10113143
100.0 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
Distance to: voskos
0.10113143 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.20133261 RUS_Kostenki14
0.33779332 RUS_MA1
0.34551089 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.42148246 ITA_Villabruna
0.61543473 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.65937553 ETH_Mota
0.68795385 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Beowulf
05-25-2023, 09:04 PM
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 10.8614% / 0.10861359
89.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
8.4 ITA_Villabruna
2.2 RUS_MA1
Impaler
05-25-2023, 09:06 PM
Target: Father
Distance: 7.7780% / 0.07778044
87.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
12.4 RUS_MA1
Distance to: Father
0.08648527 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.15280201 RUS_Kostenki14
0.27926566 RUS_MA1
0.29391130 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.39538920 ITA_Villabruna
0.56965957 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.65405252 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.65413723 ETH_Mota
paradox
05-25-2023, 09:50 PM
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 10.1390% / 0.10139002
96.0 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
4.0 RUS_MA1
Distance*to: paradox_scaled
0.10209046 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.18993904 RUS_Kostenki14
0.31107454 RUS_MA1
0.34102856 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.39730568 ITA_Villabruna
0.60397522 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.66725042 ETH_Mota
0.67299244 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
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Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 10.9788% / 0.10978845
91.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
7.0 RUS_MA1
1.6 ITA_Villabruna
Distance*to: Father_scaled
0.11233093 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.19467015 RUS_Kostenki14
0.30354990 RUS_MA1
0.34721836 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.38153920 ITA_Villabruna
0.60595512 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.67177706 ETH_Mota
0.67297893 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Distance to: Aila_scaled
0.17111349 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.18167997 RUS_Kostenki14
0.23462785 RUS_MA1
0.32520794 ITA_Villabruna
0.33552399 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.56368429 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.63121285 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.67848068 ETH_Mota
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 11.4504% / 0.11450368
51.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
31.4 RUS_MA1
17.0 ITA_Villabruna
Figaro
05-25-2023, 10:25 PM
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 11.9105% / 0.11910483
73.2 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
13.8 RUS_MA1
13.0 ITA_Villabruna
Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 11.4427% / 0.11442684
70.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
15.6 RUS_MA1
13.6 ITA_Villabruna
Petalpusher
05-25-2023, 10:27 PM
Distance to: Petalpusher
0.15892751 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.21550482 RUS_Kostenki14
0.31403035 RUS_MA1
0.32658540 ITA_Villabruna
0.37952002 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.63405265 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.69165512 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.69924531 ETH_Mota
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 13.2599% / 0.13259884
76.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
17.8 ITA_Villabruna
5.4 RUS_MA1
Gallop
05-25-2023, 11:01 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 9.7103% / 0.09710273
90.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
9.6 ITA_Villabruna
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 10.0838% / 0.10083826
90.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
9.4 ITA_Villabruna
Distance to: Father_scaled
0.10682007 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.18834845 RUS_Kostenki14
0.32153485 RUS_MA1
0.34954066 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.35496131 ITA_Villabruna
0.61113603 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.65425691 ETH_Mota
0.68072481 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.10350034 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.18516353 RUS_Kostenki14
0.32065944 RUS_MA1
0.34584418 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.35335996 ITA_Villabruna
0.60978271 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.65774771 ETH_Mota
0.68158855 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
alexmegas777
05-26-2023, 06:52 AM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 11.1687% / 0.11168659
90.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
5.6 RUS_MA1
4.0 ITA_Villabruna
rothaer
05-26-2023, 12:28 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 11.5592% / 0.11559214
67.0 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
17.6 ITA_Villabruna
15.4 RUS_MA1
An interesting calculator, actually.
oszkar07
05-26-2023, 12:53 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 11.6599% / 0.11659921
74.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
13.0 ITA_Villabruna
12.2 RUS_MA1
MandM
05-26-2023, 12:54 PM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 12.3130% / 0.12313017
89.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
8.0 RUS_MA1
2.2 ITA_Villabruna
Julkka
05-26-2023, 02:06 PM
Distance to: Julkka_scaled
0.17543606 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.17812793 RUS_Kostenki14
0.23969484 RUS_MA1
0.30486803 ITA_Villabruna
0.33222419 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.56004520 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.63568942 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.68369746 ETH_Mota
Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 10.9816% / 0.10981624
48.2 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
29.4 RUS_MA1
22.4 ITA_Villabruna
alnortedelsur
05-26-2023, 06:51 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.8385% / 0.07838485
91.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
5.4 RUS_MA1
2.8 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.2 ITA_Villabruna
Impaler
05-26-2023, 07:04 PM
So my father got the best distance.
alnortedelsur
05-26-2023, 07:07 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.8385% / 0.07838485
91.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
5.4 RUS_MA1
2.8 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.2 ITA_Villabruna
I'm surprised that even adding an ancient Amerindian and an ancient SSA references, I still got the exact same results. And my distance isn't bad compared to the other results posted here.
Lemminkäinen
05-26-2023, 07:27 PM
Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 11.2386% / 0.11238590
54.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
27.6 RUS_MA1
18.0 ITA_Villabruna
Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.16397802 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.18307840 RUS_Kostenki14
0.24391515 RUS_MA1
0.32057037 ITA_Villabruna
0.33840525 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.58072751 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.64467334 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.68110026 ETH_Mota
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 11.5592% / 0.11559214
67.0 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
17.6 ITA_Villabruna
15.4 RUS_MA1
An interesting calculator, actually.
LOL
Target: cass
Distance: 11.7128% / 0.11712832
67.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
16.6 ITA_Villabruna
16.0 RUS_MA1
gixajo
05-26-2023, 08:14 PM
I don't think Dzudzuana is useful for modeling modern individuals.
It was thought that Dzuduana would be a component that was maybe not similar but somehow related with how Neolithic Anatolia are, so proxies were usually made based on those references.
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.4105% / 0.10410521
89.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
10.2 ITA_Villabruna
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 10.5045% / 0.10504455
94.2 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
5.8 ITA_Villabruna
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 10.7624% / 0.10762416
87.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
12.6 ITA_Villabruna
Petalpusher
05-26-2023, 08:23 PM
Pinarbasi and Satsurblia would improve things, but also eat some WHG and ANE. Single distances list is more interesting here, somehow.
Eurafricanid
05-26-2023, 08:26 PM
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 9.7544% / 0.09754407
94.0 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
6.0 ITA_Villabruna
HelloGuys
05-26-2023, 09:37 PM
Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 5.6648% / 0.05664766
62.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
33.0 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
4.2 RUS_MA1
0.2 ITA_Villabruna
Voskos
05-26-2023, 10:15 PM
Pinarbasi and Satsurblia would improve things, but also eat some WHG and ANE. Single distances list is more interesting here, somehow.
Distance to: voskos
0.10113143 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.14081121 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
0.20133261 RUS_Kostenki14
0.20316298 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
0.23813494 GEO_CHG
0.33779332 RUS_MA1
0.34551089 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.42148246 ITA_Villabruna
0.61543473 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.65937553 ETH_Mota
0.68795385 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Petalpusher
05-26-2023, 10:31 PM
Distance to: voskos
0.10113143 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.14081121 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
0.20133261 RUS_Kostenki14
0.20316298 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
0.23813494 GEO_CHG
0.33779332 RUS_MA1
0.34551089 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.42148246 ITA_Villabruna
0.61543473 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.65937553 ETH_Mota
0.68795385 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Can you add those samples to the op?
Voskos
05-26-2023, 10:41 PM
Can you add those samples to the op?
can't edit OP anymore. Here's the updated source:
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Levant_Natufian_EpiP,0.0267485,0.143697,-0.030924,-0.138245,0.034468,-0.0805995,-0.0179785,-0.0201915,0.112693,0.0056495,0.0286615,-0.02248,0.0766345,-0.001239,0.0138435,0.006033,-0.0107565,-0.0005705,-0.0194205,0.0322655,0.003556,-0.000804,-0.0025885,-0.0037355,0.004371
TUR_Pinarbasi_HG,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
RUS_Kostenki14,0.035285,0.015233,-0.010182,0.063954,0.017849,-0.00251,-0.004465,-0.007846,0.032519,0.007654,0.006658,-0.005545,0.004014,-0.016239,0.013436,0.024794,0.01004,-0.003421,-0.00729,0.015132,0.020713,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.051212,-0.004071
GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111, 0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018 041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
RUS_Ust_Ishim,-0.050082,-0.11577,-0.090886,0.073644,0.027082,-0.018128,-0.00376,-0.004384,0.0452,0.010387,0.006008,-0.001798,0.000149,-0.003991,0.004614,-0.001724,-0.004955,0.004687,-0.005154,0.015382,0.006613,0.008532,-0.007641,-0.014942,0.007784
RUS_MA1,0.078538,-0.025388,0.039598,0.186049,-0.068936,0.04518,-0.048412,-0.056998,-0.019839,-0.069432,0.029879,-0.009591,0.015312,-0.045553,0.014251,0.021082,-0.007693,0,-0.003645,0.000625,-0.027327,0.002844,0.011339,-0.008314,-0.001437
CHN_Amur_River_14100BP,0.013659,-0.445817,0.063356,-0.040698,-0.035699,-0.031515,0.003525,0.005077,0.009204,0.010752,-0.050016,-0.004796,-0.003419,0.00578,-0.004343,-0.005304,0.00339,0.007348,0.011564,0.00963,0.01484 9,-0.018177,-0.019843,-0.013737,-0.01892
CHL_LosRieles_10900BP,0.044391,-0.304659,0.118416,0.101099,-0.111098,-0.012829,-0.291648,-0.349832,-0.010022,-0.022597,0.005359,-0.003897,-0.004014,0.018854,-0.008822,0.006895,0.008475,0.000507,0.000754,0.008 004,0.001248,-0.000989,0.005916,-0.000602,-0.000958
ETH_Mota,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
Petalpusher
05-26-2023, 10:55 PM
can't edit OP anymore. Here's the updated source:
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Levant_Natufian_EpiP,0.0267485,0.143697,-0.030924,-0.138245,0.034468,-0.0805995,-0.0179785,-0.0201915,0.112693,0.0056495,0.0286615,-0.02248,0.0766345,-0.001239,0.0138435,0.006033,-0.0107565,-0.0005705,-0.0194205,0.0322655,0.003556,-0.000804,-0.0025885,-0.0037355,0.004371
TUR_Pinarbasi_HG,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
RUS_Kostenki14,0.035285,0.015233,-0.010182,0.063954,0.017849,-0.00251,-0.004465,-0.007846,0.032519,0.007654,0.006658,-0.005545,0.004014,-0.016239,0.013436,0.024794,0.01004,-0.003421,-0.00729,0.015132,0.020713,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.051212,-0.004071
GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111, 0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018 041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
RUS_Ust_Ishim,-0.050082,-0.11577,-0.090886,0.073644,0.027082,-0.018128,-0.00376,-0.004384,0.0452,0.010387,0.006008,-0.001798,0.000149,-0.003991,0.004614,-0.001724,-0.004955,0.004687,-0.005154,0.015382,0.006613,0.008532,-0.007641,-0.014942,0.007784
RUS_MA1,0.078538,-0.025388,0.039598,0.186049,-0.068936,0.04518,-0.048412,-0.056998,-0.019839,-0.069432,0.029879,-0.009591,0.015312,-0.045553,0.014251,0.021082,-0.007693,0,-0.003645,0.000625,-0.027327,0.002844,0.011339,-0.008314,-0.001437
CHN_Amur_River_14100BP,0.013659,-0.445817,0.063356,-0.040698,-0.035699,-0.031515,0.003525,0.005077,0.009204,0.010752,-0.050016,-0.004796,-0.003419,0.00578,-0.004343,-0.005304,0.00339,0.007348,0.011564,0.00963,0.01484 9,-0.018177,-0.019843,-0.013737,-0.01892
CHL_LosRieles_10900BP,0.044391,-0.304659,0.118416,0.101099,-0.111098,-0.012829,-0.291648,-0.349832,-0.010022,-0.022597,0.005359,-0.003897,-0.004014,0.018854,-0.008822,0.006895,0.008475,0.000507,0.000754,0.008 004,0.001248,-0.000989,0.005916,-0.000602,-0.000958
ETH_Mota,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
Improved it some for me. Interestingly i think 13% or so was the Malta boy level i got in "K7 basal" paid test Eurogenes had a while ago. Still a lot of overlap overall, in daviski's test he simulated some basal rich sample so that splitted the PinarbasiHG and CHG more effectively, but then you end up with over 50% Villabruna for most people. With the available samples don't think we can do much better (using only paleo/early meso that is), for full Europeans at least, the more Amerindian/SSA/East Asian you have, the fits get easier.
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 13.2599% / 0.13259884
76.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
17.8 ITA_Villabruna
5.4 RUS_MA1
"V2"
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 8.5563% / 0.08556291
49.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
22.4 ITA_Villabruna
15.6 GEO_CHG
12.8 RUS_MA1
(RC didn't change anything)
Distance to: Petalpusher
0.15892751 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.18166060 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
0.21550482 RUS_Kostenki14
0.28718639 GEO_CHG
0.31403035 RUS_MA1
0.32658540 ITA_Villabruna
0.34196251 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
0.37952002 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.63405265 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.69165512 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.69924531 ETH_Mota
alnortedelsur
05-27-2023, 12:40 AM
can't edit OP anymore. Here's the updated source:
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Levant_Natufian_EpiP,0.0267485,0.143697,-0.030924,-0.138245,0.034468,-0.0805995,-0.0179785,-0.0201915,0.112693,0.0056495,0.0286615,-0.02248,0.0766345,-0.001239,0.0138435,0.006033,-0.0107565,-0.0005705,-0.0194205,0.0322655,0.003556,-0.000804,-0.0025885,-0.0037355,0.004371
TUR_Pinarbasi_HG,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
RUS_Kostenki14,0.035285,0.015233,-0.010182,0.063954,0.017849,-0.00251,-0.004465,-0.007846,0.032519,0.007654,0.006658,-0.005545,0.004014,-0.016239,0.013436,0.024794,0.01004,-0.003421,-0.00729,0.015132,0.020713,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.051212,-0.004071
GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111, 0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018 041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
RUS_Ust_Ishim,-0.050082,-0.11577,-0.090886,0.073644,0.027082,-0.018128,-0.00376,-0.004384,0.0452,0.010387,0.006008,-0.001798,0.000149,-0.003991,0.004614,-0.001724,-0.004955,0.004687,-0.005154,0.015382,0.006613,0.008532,-0.007641,-0.014942,0.007784
RUS_MA1,0.078538,-0.025388,0.039598,0.186049,-0.068936,0.04518,-0.048412,-0.056998,-0.019839,-0.069432,0.029879,-0.009591,0.015312,-0.045553,0.014251,0.021082,-0.007693,0,-0.003645,0.000625,-0.027327,0.002844,0.011339,-0.008314,-0.001437
CHN_Amur_River_14100BP,0.013659,-0.445817,0.063356,-0.040698,-0.035699,-0.031515,0.003525,0.005077,0.009204,0.010752,-0.050016,-0.004796,-0.003419,0.00578,-0.004343,-0.005304,0.00339,0.007348,0.011564,0.00963,0.01484 9,-0.018177,-0.019843,-0.013737,-0.01892
CHL_LosRieles_10900BP,0.044391,-0.304659,0.118416,0.101099,-0.111098,-0.012829,-0.291648,-0.349832,-0.010022,-0.022597,0.005359,-0.003897,-0.004014,0.018854,-0.008822,0.006895,0.008475,0.000507,0.000754,0.008 004,0.001248,-0.000989,0.005916,-0.000602,-0.000958
ETH_Mota,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
V2:
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.3760% / 0.05376021
42.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
18.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
15.4 RUS_MA1
8.8 GEO_CHG
4.4 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
4.2 ITA_Villabruna
3.2 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
3.0 Western_African
Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08450042 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.15606214 RUS_Kostenki14
0.16421815 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
0.23014172 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
0.26258126 GEO_CHG
0.28857908 RUS_MA1
0.30487652 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.38121281 ITA_Villabruna
0.57226834 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.61936783 ETH_Mota
0.62308778 Amerindian
0.62753857 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
0.70355223 Western_African
Voskos
05-27-2023, 10:40 AM
...
You're exceptionally close to the Dzudzuana considering you're a modern individual.
Beowulf
05-27-2023, 10:43 AM
can't edit OP anymore. Here's the updated source:
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Levant_Natufian_EpiP,0.0267485,0.143697,-0.030924,-0.138245,0.034468,-0.0805995,-0.0179785,-0.0201915,0.112693,0.0056495,0.0286615,-0.02248,0.0766345,-0.001239,0.0138435,0.006033,-0.0107565,-0.0005705,-0.0194205,0.0322655,0.003556,-0.000804,-0.0025885,-0.0037355,0.004371
TUR_Pinarbasi_HG,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
RUS_Kostenki14,0.035285,0.015233,-0.010182,0.063954,0.017849,-0.00251,-0.004465,-0.007846,0.032519,0.007654,0.006658,-0.005545,0.004014,-0.016239,0.013436,0.024794,0.01004,-0.003421,-0.00729,0.015132,0.020713,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.051212,-0.004071
GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111, 0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018 041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
RUS_Ust_Ishim,-0.050082,-0.11577,-0.090886,0.073644,0.027082,-0.018128,-0.00376,-0.004384,0.0452,0.010387,0.006008,-0.001798,0.000149,-0.003991,0.004614,-0.001724,-0.004955,0.004687,-0.005154,0.015382,0.006613,0.008532,-0.007641,-0.014942,0.007784
RUS_MA1,0.078538,-0.025388,0.039598,0.186049,-0.068936,0.04518,-0.048412,-0.056998,-0.019839,-0.069432,0.029879,-0.009591,0.015312,-0.045553,0.014251,0.021082,-0.007693,0,-0.003645,0.000625,-0.027327,0.002844,0.011339,-0.008314,-0.001437
CHN_Amur_River_14100BP,0.013659,-0.445817,0.063356,-0.040698,-0.035699,-0.031515,0.003525,0.005077,0.009204,0.010752,-0.050016,-0.004796,-0.003419,0.00578,-0.004343,-0.005304,0.00339,0.007348,0.011564,0.00963,0.01484 9,-0.018177,-0.019843,-0.013737,-0.01892
CHL_LosRieles_10900BP,0.044391,-0.304659,0.118416,0.101099,-0.111098,-0.012829,-0.291648,-0.349832,-0.010022,-0.022597,0.005359,-0.003897,-0.004014,0.018854,-0.008822,0.006895,0.008475,0.000507,0.000754,0.008 004,0.001248,-0.000989,0.005916,-0.000602,-0.000958
ETH_Mota,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 5.9669% / 0.05966901
57.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
16.0 GEO_CHG
14.0 RUS_MA1
12.2 ITA_Villabruna
With the updated source:
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 9.4133% / 0.09413309
36.0 RUS_MA1
33.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
19.2 ITA_Villabruna
11.0 GEO_CHG
0.4 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
JerryS.
05-27-2023, 12:23 PM
I don't know what any of this means but here's mine:
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 8.1778% / 0.08177775
46.6 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
19.4 RUS_MA1
17.6 GEO_CHG
16.4 ITA_Villabruna
Eurafricanid
05-27-2023, 02:11 PM
Newer sources:
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 5.1847% / 0.05184681
55.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
14.2 GEO_CHG
10.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
10.0 RUS_MA1
9.8 ITA_Villabruna
paradox
06-02-2023, 05:55 AM
Updated version
Distanceto: paradox_scaled
0.10209046 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.15046836 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
0.18993904 RUS_Kostenki14
0.23764423 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
0.24119837 GEO_CHG
0.31107454 RUS_MA1
0.34102856 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.39730568 ITA_Villabruna
0.60397522 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.66725042 ETH_Mota
0.67299244 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 5.9645% / 0.05964480
50.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
20.6 GEO_CHG
14.2 RUS_MA1
7.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
3.8 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
3.0 ITA_Villabruna
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Distanceto: Father_scaled
0.11233093 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
0.16156816 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
0.19467015 RUS_Kostenki14
0.25309526 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
0.25590909 GEO_CHG
0.30354990 RUS_MA1
0.34721836 RUS_Ust_Ishim
0.38153920 ITA_Villabruna
0.60595512 CHN_Amur_River_14100BP
0.67177706 ETH_Mota
0.67297893 CHL_LosRieles_10900BP
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.5822% / 0.07582223
52.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
17.4 RUS_MA1
16.2 GEO_CHG
8.8 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949
5.6 ITA_Villabruna
Katarzyna
07-30-2023, 10:59 AM
Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 9.3645% / 0.09364496
39.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
24.6 RUS_MA1
21.4 ITA_Villabruna
15.0 GEO_CHG
Nice very high Villabruna
gixajo
07-30-2023, 11:15 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 6.0191% / 0.06019096
57.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
13.6 ITA_Villabruna
12.2 GEO_CHG
11.2 RUS_MA1
4.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
0.6 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 5.7597% / 0.05759743
60.4 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
12.2 RUS_MA1
10.2 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
8.6 GEO_CHG
8.2 ITA_Villabruna
0.4 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 6.9860% / 0.06986033
56.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
15.2 ITA_Villabruna
12.2 RUS_MA1
10.6 GEO_CHG
6.0 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 5.7805% / 0.05780509
63.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
15.4 ITA_Villabruna
11.0 RUS_MA1
10.6 GEO_CHG
gixajo
07-30-2023, 11:38 AM
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Levant_Natufian_EpiP,0.0267485,0.143697,-0.030924,-0.138245,0.034468,-0.0805995,-0.0179785,-0.0201915,0.112693,0.0056495,0.0286615,-0.02248,0.0766345,-0.001239,0.0138435,0.006033,-0.0107565,-0.0005705,-0.0194205,0.0322655,0.003556,-0.000804,-0.0025885,-0.0037355,0.004371
TUR_Pinarbasi_HG,0.114961,0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
RUS_Kostenki14,0.035285,0.015233,-0.010182,0.063954,0.017849,-0.00251,-0.004465,-0.007846,0.032519,0.007654,0.006658,-0.005545,0.004014,-0.016239,0.013436,0.024794,0.01004,-0.003421,-0.00729,0.015132,0.020713,0.000371,-0.005916,-0.051212,-0.004071
GEO_Dzudzuana_UP:S2949,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
ITA_Villabruna,0.121791,0.114755,0.18592,0.184111, 0.156337,0.060798,0.020211,0.035998,0.092445,0.018 041,-0.016239,-0.016186,0.016947,-0.010046,0.054017,0.067356,0.000782,0.005448,-0.008422,0.053526,0.100073,0.010758,-0.048313,-0.163517,0.01928
RUS_Ust_Ishim,-0.050082,-0.11577,-0.090886,0.073644,0.027082,-0.018128,-0.00376,-0.004384,0.0452,0.010387,0.006008,-0.001798,0.000149,-0.003991,0.004614,-0.001724,-0.004955,0.004687,-0.005154,0.015382,0.006613,0.008532,-0.007641,-0.014942,0.007784
RUS_MA1,0.078538,-0.025388,0.039598,0.186049,-0.068936,0.04518,-0.048412,-0.056998,-0.019839,-0.069432,0.029879,-0.009591,0.015312,-0.045553,0.014251,0.021082,-0.007693,0,-0.003645,0.000625,-0.027327,0.002844,0.011339,-0.008314,-0.001437
CHN_Amur_River_14100BP,0.013659,-0.445817,0.063356,-0.040698,-0.035699,-0.031515,0.003525,0.005077,0.009204,0.010752,-0.050016,-0.004796,-0.003419,0.00578,-0.004343,-0.005304,0.00339,0.007348,0.011564,0.00963,0.01484 9,-0.018177,-0.019843,-0.013737,-0.01892
CHL_LosRieles_10900BP,0.044391,-0.304659,0.118416,0.101099,-0.111098,-0.012829,-0.291648,-0.349832,-0.010022,-0.022597,0.005359,-0.003897,-0.004014,0.018854,-0.008822,0.006895,0.008475,0.000507,0.000754,0.008 004,0.001248,-0.000989,0.005916,-0.000602,-0.000958
ETH_Mota,-0.515619,0.041637,-0.003394,-0.001292,-0.00277,-0.011713,0.054992,-0.052382,0.090604,-0.094581,-0.013478,0.003297,-0.031962,-0.001927,0.023615,-0.031291,0.031944,0.043454,-0.002388,-0.00963,-0.001248,0.00643,-0.005176,-0.003133,0.004071
The same model with updated references from official datasheet ,excepting Dzudzuana, that ihas not been included so I let the same coordinates.
Check it if you want, there was 2 Natufian individuals, with 3 and 4 distances to the older coordinates, I added the "enhanced" one, that has mora distance than the other, but seeing the results was "the purest" of both.( closer to 100% Natufian the other less than 90% compared with older coordinates).
All the others have 2 or less than 2 distances compared with the "older" coordinates if I remember well.
Russia_MA1(updated),0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
Georgia_HG(updated),0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557
Israel_Natufian(updated),0.037562,0.155376,-0.023381,-0.137276,0.043085,-0.083388,-0.017861,-0.012923,0.124555,0.015672,0.030042,-0.020382,0.082209,0,0.003257,-0.012861,-0.008866,-0.010515,-0.017221,0.021385,0.015348,0.001855,0.008504,0.003 735,0
Turkey_Epipaleolithic_Pinarbasi(updated),0.114961, 0.167562,0.03017,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
Russia_Kostenki14(updated),0.029594,0.017264,-0.010559,0.065892,0.020619,-0.00502,-0.004465,-0.009461,0.037428,0.005649,0.00747,-0.008992,0.00223,-0.01968,0.013029,0.026651,0.01004,-0.000253,-0.01081,0.019885,0.015972,-0.002102,-0.004807,-0.051092,-0.001557
Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP,0.062603,0.099522,-0.009428,-0.002261,0.029852,-0.017012,0.001175,-0.001846,0.03211,0.02606,0.007632,-0.011989,0.001635,0.012799,0.000271,-0.003182,-0.01343,0.004687,-0.007416,0.003377,0.026453,0.007172,-0.01479,-0.029281,-0.00012
Italy_Villabruna_HG(updated),0.121791,0.11577,0.18 592,0.185726,0.156029,0.060798,0.017626,0.041537,0 .093467,0.017859,-0.015752,-0.015886,0.020961,-0.005092,0.05361,0.064041,0.007562,0.004181,-0.00905,0.053401,0.099949,0.012489,-0.044123,-0.169904,0.018801
Russia_Ust_Ishim(updated),-0.05122,-0.112724,-0.090886,0.075259,0.023389,-0.021753,-0.0094,-0.002077,0.044791,0.010387,0.005846,-0.000749,0.003271,-0.002615,0.002172,-0.002254,-0.006128,0.001647,-0.006913,0.015007,0.002995,0.007296,-0.010353,-0.014098,0.00946
China_AmurRiver_LPaleolithic(updated),0.014797,-0.445817,0.062602,-0.041021,-0.03693,-0.031794,0.003525,0.003,0.011658,0.011116,-0.052127,-0.005845,-0.001338,0.003028,-0.003257,-0.00358,0.004303,0.005701,0.011061,0.009505,0.0104 82,-0.023494,-0.019843,-0.017352,-0.019759
Chile_LosRieles(updated),0.045529,-0.301612,0.121433,0.103037,-0.10802,-0.016455,-0.291648,-0.345447,-0.009408,-0.020957,0.004872,-0.006594,-0.000297,0.021882,-0.008686,0.005436,0.007823,0.000507,0.000754,0.009 63,0.000125,0.001978,0.003451,0.003133,-0.00012
Ethiopia_Mota(updated),-0.517895,0.040621,-0.003017,-0.000646,-0.002154,-0.009761,0.057813,-0.049383,0.089172,-0.084375,-0.013803,-0.014987,-0.036571,-0.001651,0.02348,-0.030628,0.022817,0.041047,0.005279,-0.008629,0.00262,0.001855,-0.006039,0.001205,0.002515
majevica
07-30-2023, 11:48 AM
Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 11.1720% / 0.11172019
81.4 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
9.6 RUS_MA1
9.0 ITA_Villabruna
Updated:
Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 7.3216% / 0.07321623
52.6 Turkey_Epipaleolithic_Pinarbasi(updated)
20.2 Russia_MA1(updated)
14.6 Georgia_HG(updated)
12.6 Italy_Villabruna_HG(updated)
cakmir7y
07-30-2023, 12:07 PM
original
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 11.7349% / 0.11734943
68.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
16.0 ITA_Villabruna
15.4 RUS_MA1
updated
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 7.9607% / 0.07960674
45.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
22.8 RUS_MA1
18.4 ITA_Villabruna
13.6 GEO_CHG
cakmir7y
07-30-2023, 12:08 PM
Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 9.3645% / 0.09364496
39.0 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
24.6 RUS_MA1
21.4 ITA_Villabruna
15.0 GEO_CHG
Nice very high Villabruna
Question: What so nice about "high VIllabruna"?
gixajo
07-30-2023, 12:51 PM
original
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 11.7349% / 0.11734943
68.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
16.0 ITA_Villabruna
15.4 RUS_MA1
updated
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 7.9607% / 0.07960674
45.2 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
22.8 RUS_MA1
18.4 ITA_Villabruna
13.6 GEO_CHG
We probably need updated coordinates for Dzudzuana, because it seems that older coordinates pass to a second level when they share a model with the updated ones?
Wait...are you using the two similar models, or the first model posted in this thread?
gixajo
07-30-2023, 12:55 PM
No so differents in my case.
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 6.0391% / 0.06039059
57.8 Turkey_Epipaleolithic_Pinarbasi(updated)
13.4 Italy_Villabruna_HG(updated)
12.0 Russia_MA1(updated)
11.6 Georgia_HG(updated)
3.6 Georgia_Dzudzuana_UP
1.6 Israel_Natufian(updated)
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 6.0191% / 0.06019096
57.8 TUR_Pinarbasi_HG
13.6 ITA_Villabruna
12.2 GEO_CHG
11.2 RUS_MA1
4.6 GEO_Dzudzuana_UP
0.6 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
cakmir7y
07-30-2023, 01:06 PM
We probably need updated coordinates for Dzudzuana, because it seems that older coordinates pass to a second level when they share a model with the updated ones?
Wait...are you using the two similar models, or the first model posted in this thread?
I am showing results for the first model in this thread and then with added references (pinarbasi).
For the two similar models I got as negligible differences as you.
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