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rothaer
05-28-2023, 07:02 PM
Do you know your WHG and EHG proportions?

This calculator should work worldwide. Run it strait without any particular settings.


ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
CHG:GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
WHG:LUX_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Amerind:RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Natufian:Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
S_Asian_HG:Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
SSA:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
OHG:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4,-0.042115,-0.224432,-0.205154,0.215442,0.145566,-0.322398,-0.007285,0.014538,-0.000818,0.003098,-0.004872,-0.002248,0.004311,-0.001239,-0.008415,-0.000796,0.004694,-0.001774,-0.01169,-0.003377,0.003369,-0.006801,-0.000863,-0.001928,-0.00946
Iberomaurusian:MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
MAG:BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2,0.071709,0.03859,0.067127, 0.122095,0.085554,0.016176,-0.00188,0.006923,0.079764,0.015855,-0.013478,-0.017085,0.009217,-0.019267,0.044245,0.036197,0.002217,0.003547,-0.009302,0.045272,0.054778,0.003215,-0.034263,-0.101942,0.011376

rothaer
05-28-2023, 07:06 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 5.9313% / 0.05931296
45.0 ENF
36.6 EHG
9.6 WHG
8.8 CHG

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 6.6435% / 0.06643503
42.0 ENF
37.6 EHG
10.4 CHG
10.0 WHG

Beowulf
05-28-2023, 07:07 PM
Ivorix
58.6 ENF
23.6 EHG
10.2 CHG
7.6 WHG

Voskos
05-28-2023, 07:22 PM
Target:
Distance: 3.7269% / 0.03726914
49.0 ENF
21.4 CHG
15.8 Natufian
13.6 EHG
0.2 WHG

cass
05-28-2023, 07:27 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 6.5087% / 0.06508730
44.6 ENF
37.6 EHG
9.2 CHG
8.6 WHG
:bored:

Annihilus
05-28-2023, 07:30 PM
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.5967% / 0.03596716
43.4 ENF
32.8 CHG
16.0 EHG
7.4 Natufian
0.4 EA

Impaler
05-28-2023, 07:41 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.3481% / 0.04348148
50.2 ENF
26.0 EHG
17.2 CHG
4.4 S_Asian_HG
1.6 Natufian
0.6 Iberomaurusian

Target: Father
Distance: 3.9216% / 0.03921560
45.0 ENF
23.4 CHG
21.8 EHG
7.0 S_Asian_HG
2.8 Natufian

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 07:46 PM
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 3.8712% / 0.03871198
60.4 ENF
18.8 EHG
11.0 CHG
8.4 WHG
1.4 Natufian

It doesn't really work with people actually mixed amerindian or north asian, it just blends almost all of it (if not all of it) indo EHG, but good calculator, nonetheless.

Lemminkäinen
05-28-2023, 07:47 PM
EHG and CHG come with the Steppe, maybe not all, but mostly.

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 6.2090% / 0.06209045
48.4 EHG
37.6 ENF
7.6 CHG
6.2 WHG
0.2 EA

rothaer
05-28-2023, 07:54 PM
EHG and CHG come with the Steppe, maybe not all, but mostly.

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 6.2090% / 0.06209045
48.4 EHG
37.6 ENF
7.6 CHG
6.2 WHG
0.2 EA

Yep.

Also, you currently have the yellow jersey for EHG.

rothaer
05-28-2023, 07:56 PM
Target:
Distance: 3.7269% / 0.03726914
49.0 ENF
21.4 CHG
15.8 Natufian
13.6 EHG
0.2 WHG

You are no Greek from the European mainland (in Greece), are you?

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 08:05 PM
Yep.

Also, you currently have the yellow jersey for EHG.

A some of it being because of his North Asian Admixture, since 0.2% East Asian seems very low for him :).

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 08:07 PM
You are no Greek from the European mainland (in Greece), are you?

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 3.2584% / 0.03258402
60.0 ENF
19.2 EHG
16.4 CHG
4.4 Natufian

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 3.3449% / 0.03344946
62.0 ENF
21.0 EHG
16.2 CHG
0.8 Natufian

Although he has a lot of Natufian too.

rothaer
05-28-2023, 08:10 PM
Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 3.2584% / 0.03258402
60.0 ENF
19.2 EHG
16.4 CHG
4.4 Natufian

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 3.3449% / 0.03344946
62.0 ENF
21.0 EHG
16.2 CHG
0.8 Natufian

Although he has a lot of Natufian too.

Interesting! I didn't know that there lacks WHG seemingly entirely. At least in this calculation... :confused:

Yes, notably higher Natufian.

Voskos
05-28-2023, 08:12 PM
You are no Greek from the European mainland (in Greece), are you?

I'm Cretan.

rothaer
05-28-2023, 08:14 PM
A some of it being because of his North Asian Admixture, since 0.2% East Asian seems very low for him :).

Not sure as for the distribution of EA among Finns. I imagine it may well be regionally much varying. Maybe Lemminkäinen can enlight.

Lemminkäinen
05-28-2023, 08:30 PM
Yep.

Also, you currently have the yellow jersey for EHG.

It is a vest, use it while riding.

Lemminkäinen
05-28-2023, 08:40 PM
Not sure as for the distribution of EA among Finns. I imagine it may well be regionally much varying. Maybe Lemminkäinen can enlight.

Asian admixture is somehow highest near Saami populated suburbs. Must be coincidental.

paradox
05-28-2023, 08:45 PM
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 4.2222% / 0.04222175
55.4 ENF
23.6 EHG
17.0 CHG
4.0 Natufian

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 5.2939% / 0.05293906
58.2 ENF
30.2 EHG
11.4 CHG
0.2 Natufian

PT Tagus
05-28-2023, 09:00 PM
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 4.7323% / 0.04732272
57.4 ENF
18.2 EHG
9.2 CHG
7.8 WHG
3.0 Iberomaurusian
2.8 SSA
1.6 Natufian

Gallop
05-28-2023, 09:07 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.7681% / 0.04768132
56.6 ENF
18.2 EHG
11.6 WHG
10.8 CHG
2.8 Natufian

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 4.8354% / 0.04835419
58.6 ENF
20.0 EHG
10.2 WHG
8.6 CHG
2.6 Natufian

Jana
05-28-2023, 09:11 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled_23_and_me_V4
Distance: 0.0552% / 0.05518753

48.9 ENF
29.2 EHG
13.2 CHG
8.7 WHG

Target: Stears_scaled_Ancestry_DNA
Distance: 0.0503% / 0.05033387

47.3 ENF
35.2 EHG
13.8 CHG
3.7 WHG

rothaer
05-28-2023, 09:19 PM
It is a vest, use it while riding.

At the Tour de EHG you will have it hidden under the jersey then. :p

https://i.imgur.com/sU0850F.jpg

gixajo
05-28-2023, 09:22 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.8832% / 0.04883224
60.6 ENF
19.6 EHG
11.0 WHG
7.4 CHG
1.4 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.5281% / 0.04528109
64.8 ENF
20.8 EHG
6.6 WHG
4.8 CHG
2.6 Iberomaurusian
0.4 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.7336% / 0.05733612
59.8 ENF
21.8 EHG
11.6 WHG
5.8 CHG
1.0 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_enana
Distance: 5.2007% / 0.05200719
61.6 ENF
18.6 EHG
12.8 WHG
7.0 CHG

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 09:25 PM
Yep.

Also, you currently have the yellow jersey for EHG.
chg 9
ehg 44,6
enf 38.8
whg 7,6

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 09:26 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.8832% / 0.04883224
60.6 ENF
19.6 EHG
11.0 WHG
7.4 CHG
1.4 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.5281% / 0.04528109
64.8 ENF
20.8 EHG
6.6 WHG
4.8 CHG
2.6 Iberomaurusian
0.4 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.7336% / 0.05733612
59.8 ENF
21.8 EHG
11.6 WHG
5.8 CHG
1.0 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_enana
Distance: 5.2007% / 0.05200719
61.6 ENF
18.6 EHG
12.8 WHG
7.0 CHG

churka

gixajo
05-28-2023, 09:28 PM
churka

Da. :)

rothaer
05-28-2023, 09:29 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.8832% / 0.04883224
60.6 ENF
19.6 EHG
11.0 WHG
7.4 CHG
1.4 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.5281% / 0.04528109
64.8 ENF
20.8 EHG
6.6 WHG
4.8 CHG
2.6 Iberomaurusian
0.4 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.7336% / 0.05733612
59.8 ENF
21.8 EHG
11.6 WHG
5.8 CHG
1.0 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_enana
Distance: 5.2007% / 0.05200719
61.6 ENF
18.6 EHG
12.8 WHG
7.0 CHG

What does enana mean?

gixajo
05-28-2023, 09:37 PM
What does enana mean?

very small, midget :)

gixajo
05-28-2023, 09:40 PM
[SIZE=1]Target: Gallop_scaled
]

Veo que sigues con tu vieja tradición de borrar algunas referencias.:rolleyes:

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 09:41 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled_23_and_me_V4
Distance: 0.0552% / 0.05518753

48.9 ENF
29.2 EHG
13.2 CHG
8.7 WHG

Target: Stears_scaled_Ancestry_DNA
Distance: 0.0503% / 0.05033387

47.3 ENF
35.2 EHG
13.8 CHG
3.7 WHG
You are both Southerners. Northerners have high ECH CHG. If CHG is strongly overestimated, then these are the late post-Indo-European inhabitants of the Caucasus mountains. EHG is a marker of the Indo-Europeans.

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 09:45 PM
Veo que sigues con tu vieja tradición de borrar algunas referencias.:rolleyes:
1.0 Iberomaurusian
Do you like picking cotton?

rothaer
05-28-2023, 09:46 PM
very small, midget :)

:thumbs
I guess it must then be FTDNA or MyH raw data as you needed a swab stick. :p

rothaer
05-28-2023, 09:49 PM
You are both Southerners. Northerners have high ECH CHG. If CHG is strongly overestimated, then these are the late post-Indo-European inhabitants of the Caucasus mountains. EHG is a marker of the Indo-Europeans.

Indeed an indication of another separate CHG-rich immigration.

Jana
05-28-2023, 09:52 PM
You are both Southerners. Northerners have high ECH CHG. If CHG is strongly overestimated, then these are the late post-Indo-European inhabitants of the Caucasus mountains. EHG is a marker of the Indo-Europeans.

CHG is sexy

gixajo
05-28-2023, 09:54 PM
:thumbs
I guess it must then be FTDNA or MyH raw data as you needed a swab stick. :p

No, these are actual G25 coordinates from a MyHeritage saliva test she took times ago. I got her coordinates from DnaGenics yesterday, I didn´t want to wait till June.

I´ve posted her results on MyHeritage times ago.

I can add "scaled" to point that there are normal coordinates, not simulated ones, I label first them with her real name, but I prefer for her this "gixajo_enana" affectionate name.

I am a very sentimental churka.

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 10:00 PM
CHG is sexy
EHG made Europe and the Indo-Europeans. I don't like farmers, although I have 35-40% of them. Let my EEF ancestors forgive me, but I don't like you, losers.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 10:03 PM
1.0 Iberomaurusian
Do you like picking cotton?

No, for agricultural work I usually hire crews of foreign seasonal workers from countries poorer than mine, like where you come from.

Do you need work? Twelve euros an hour, discounting social security, accommodation and transportation to the field for free. 8-hour shifts with an hour break, 5 hours in the morning and 3 hours in the afternoon.

.You are welcome, but if I have to include you in a group of Malians, don't call them churka in a derogatory way. It is well-intentioned advice.

I don't think they take it as well as I do.:wink

J. Ketch
05-28-2023, 10:05 PM
Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 7.5032% / 0.07503229
46.4 ENF
36.4 EHG
9.0 CHG
8.2 WHG

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 6.1141% / 0.06114122
46.4 ENF
35.2 EHG
10.0 CHG
8.4 WHG

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 7.8028% / 0.07802756
44.8 ENF
36.6 EHG
9.6 CHG
9.0 WHG

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 10:06 PM
No, for agricultural work I usually hire crews of foreign seasonal workers from countries poorer than mine, like where you come from.

Do you need work? Twelve euros an hour, discounting social security, accommodation and transportation to the field for free. 8-hour shifts with an hour break, 5 hours in the morning and 3 hours in the afternoon.

.You are welcome, but if I have to include you in a group of Malians, don't call them churka in a derogatory way. It is well-intentioned advice.

I don't think they take it as well as I do.:wink
I'm your white master, on your knees!

Lemminkäinen
05-28-2023, 10:09 PM
EHG made Europe and the Indo-Europeans. I don't like farmers, although I have 35-40% of them. Let my EEF ancestors forgive me, but I don't like you, losers.

I have 48% mammoth eaters' blood.

Jana
05-28-2023, 10:12 PM
EHG made Europe and the Indo-Europeans. I don't like farmers, although I have 35-40% of them. Let my EEF ancestors forgive me, but I don't like you, losers.

Every Gypsy markets his horse :o

gixajo
05-28-2023, 10:14 PM
I'm your white master, on your knees!

I forgive your insolence, "Eurasian" neighbor from the barren North.:patpat:

By the way, we share Ydna, What are you...Z93 from India?

gixajo
05-28-2023, 10:19 PM
EHG made Europe and the Indo-Europeans. I don't like farmers, although I have 35-40% of them. Let my EEF ancestors forgive me, but I don't like you, losers.

What a clown you are...;)

Vitez
05-28-2023, 10:22 PM
Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 4.9939% / 0.04993858
50.4 ENF
33.6 EHG
10.0 CHG
6.0 WHG

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 10:28 PM
What a clown you are...;)
Go, I'll stroke your ear, I'll feed you from a bowl, half-human. And this miracle was arguing about politics with a white man...:picard1:

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 10:30 PM
No, these are actual G25 coordinates from a MyHeritage saliva test she took times ago. I got her coordinates from DnaGenics yesterday, I didn´t want to wait till June.

I´ve posted her results on MyHeritage times ago.

I can add "scaled" to point that there are normal coordinates, not simulated ones, I label first them with her real name, but I prefer for her this "gixajo_enana" affectionate name.

I am a very sentimental churka.

So, you got the Synthetic G25 coordinates from them? If yes, they're not very much like the real ones.

Distance to: Jgab602_scaled
0.02093294 sample

That's a rough distance if you ask me.

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 10:31 PM
I have 48% mammoth eaters' blood.
This is a very good result, I envy you!) Mammoth hunters play a major role in the ethnogenesis of the Indo-Europeans. Farmers substrate random.

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 10:35 PM
Every Gypsy markets his horse :o
My dream, I misunderstood you. Why gypsies?

Julkka
05-28-2023, 10:35 PM
Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 6.4135% / 0.06413503
46.6 EHG
34.0 ENF
10.6 WHG
4.4 CHG
4.4 EA

gixajo
05-28-2023, 10:42 PM
Go, I'll stroke your ear, I'll feed you from a bowl, half-human. And this miracle was arguing about politics with a white man...:picard1:

You are not very credible in the role of master, to do it well you have to be born being a master, being the son of a master and being the grandson of another master and it is not your case.

So you better stop making a fool of yourself by pretending to be what you're not and speak normally, that you are not above me, nor do I want to see you below me.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 10:45 PM
So, you got the Synthetic G25 coordinates from them? If yes, they're not very much like the real ones.

Distance to: Jgab602_scaled
0.02093294 sample

That's a rough distance if you ask me.

Wait...but DnaGenic voordinates are not a secondary way to get the same coordinates Davidski use to give through his site Eurogenes Blog???

retfala
05-28-2023, 10:48 PM
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 5.0428% / 0.05042798
53.6 ENF
32.2 EHG
9.6 CHG
4.6 WHG

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 10:48 PM
Wait...but DnaGenic voordinates are not a secondary way to get the same coordinates Davidski use to give through his site Eurogenes Blog???

They once were, but now the only thing they have is those Synthetic coordinates, have you noticed that they're not in the 6 decimal cases standard of Davidski?

Lemminkäinen
05-28-2023, 10:49 PM
This is a very good result, I envy you!) Mammoth hunters play a major role in the ethnogenesis of the Indo-Europeans. Farmers substrate random.

Yes, we are masters of universe, because of mammoth steak made us strong. Hiding beans to sand makes weak.

ugochaves
05-28-2023, 10:50 PM
Every Gypsy markets his horse :o
Now I understand ... I mistranslated at the beginning. You know you're right and I really don't care. I am indifferent as a whole to the white world. And to black too. The main thing is what is in a person's head. Here at this gixajo - this is the one who gets confused under his feet and tries to prove something - the attitude is ridiculous. I respect smart people with any views, even enemies.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 10:51 PM
So, you got the Synthetic G25 coordinates from them? If yes, they're not very much like the real ones.



That's a rough distance if you ask me.

I understand that they were the real ones...

G25 coordinates DnaGenics (https://www.dnagenics.com/services/syntheticG25Coordinates)


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Creating a set of scaled G25 coordinates for both the genomewide and chromosomal level provides additional insights into your genetic heritage. By analyzing your entire genome, you are able to view your overall genetic makeup and how it compares to other populations. However, by also analyzing the G25 coordinates at a chromosomal level, you are able to gain a more detailed understanding of your genetic heritage. This is because each chromosome contains specific genes and genetic markers that can provide information about specific traits or ancestry.

What are the G25 coordinates?
The G25 coordinates are a 25-dimensional abstraction of your raw DNA data that is obtained through a principal component analysis (PCA). These coordinates allow you to visualize your position on a genetic map in relation to other world populations. Furthermore, the G25 coordinates are also useful for modeling your admixture/ancestry using optimization algorithms. The majority of genetic variation is captured in the first dimension, with the subsequent dimensions capturing less variation. The later dimensions in the set are used to delineate smaller variations within populations. To make the numbers useful for visual representation, the dimensions are normalized by the PCA, so that the X and Y lines on a graph have a similar length.

rothaer
05-28-2023, 10:52 PM
So, you got the Synthetic G25 coordinates from them? If yes, they're not very much like the real ones.

Distance to: Jgab602_scaled
0.02093294 sample

That's a rough distance if you ask me.

I also think that they are simulated (I read "synthetic" somewhere but didn't find it now when I searched on their page). I just mailed to Davidski for getting a clear answer on that.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 11:01 PM
They once were, but now the only thing they have is those Synthetic coordinates, have you noticed that they're not in the 6 decimal cases standard of Davidski?

Yes, you are totally right, I have read it now...:D


As a bonus, G25 Synthetic Coordinates are included with every ancestry pack purchase. Start exploring the depths of your ancestry today with the highly accurate Global 25 test.

* The results can be slightly different from the original G25 Coordinates

Well, so in July I will get the real ones from Davidski.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 11:04 PM
I also think that they are simulated (I read "synthetic" somewhere but didn't find it now when I searched on their page). I just mailed to Davidski for getting a clear answer on that.


The Global 25 (G25) ancestry test is widely considered to be the most accurate test available on the non-commercial market. By obtaining your G25 coordinates, you can gain a highly detailed breakdown of your ancestry.

Our advanced algorithm is able to generate a set of scaled* synthetic G25 coordinates for your entire genome and for each individual chromosome, allowing you to delve even deeper into your results. Please note that these results may differ slightly from your original G25 coordinates*, and you will need to use a calculator for scaled coordinates.

As a bonus, G25 Synthetic Coordinates are included with every ancestry pack purchase. Start exploring the depths of your ancestry today with the highly accurate Global 25 test.

* The results can be slightly different from the original G25 Coordinates

* The coordinates are scaled, so you should use a calculator for scaled coordinates.

It is quite deceptive, you have to search a lot to find where it explicitly says that they are not the same.

That's what I get for being in a hurry.

Well, I suppose they will be better than the ones simulated based on Gedmatch calculators, or the ones I did in a similar way when Davidski stopped doing them for the first time for a while.

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 11:07 PM
I understand that they were the real ones...

G25 coordinates DnaGenics (https://www.dnagenics.com/services/syntheticG25Coordinates)

When I ordered my results there, this page said "Synthetic G25" and also said that they weren't the real ones, but a good "aproximation" of them, but they might've changed it seems?

PS. I wrote this before reading Gixajo's the lastest posts.

rothaer
05-28-2023, 11:10 PM
It is quite deceptive, you have to search a lot to find where it explicitly says that they are not the same.

That's what I get for being in a hurry.

Well, I suppose they will be better than the ones simulated based on Gedmatch calculators, or the ones I did in a similar way when Davidski stopped doing them for the first time for a while.

Absolutely, close to fraud, and now when I searched for it I didn't even find it.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 11:11 PM
Now I understand ... I mistranslated at the beginning. You know you're right and I really don't care. I am indifferent as a whole to the white world. And to black too. The main thing is what is in a person's head. Here at this gixajo - this is the one who gets confused under his feet and tries to prove something - the attitude is ridiculous. I respect smart people with any views, even enemies.

Do not suffer, someone may believe what you are saying. I am very confused, yes. ;)

rothaer
05-28-2023, 11:11 PM
When I ordered my results there, this page said "Synthetic G25" and also said that they weren't the real ones, but a good "aproximation" of them, but they might've changed it seems?

Yes, it looks like that. As I wrote, I now simply mailed to Davidski for getting that cleared.

gixajo
05-28-2023, 11:14 PM
Absolutely, close to fraud, and now when I searched for it I didn't even find it.

Here you can see it, but in the blog related with the site, not in the site properly.

Synthetic coordinates (https://blogs.dnagenics.com/synthetic-g25-coordinates/)

Eurafricanid
05-28-2023, 11:20 PM
Here you can see it, but in the blog related with the site, not in the site properly.

Synthetic coordinates (https://blogs.dnagenics.com/synthetic-g25-coordinates/)

YUPP! and here they say:

How can I obtain the G25 Coordinates?
G25 synthetic coordinates are included with every ancestry pack purchase. Visit our store to purchase an ancestry pack: https://www.dnagenics.com/store

Once your results are ready, you will find your G25 Coordinates in your account in the “Synthetic G25 coordinates” menu.

here (https://blogs.dnagenics.com/g25-coordinates/) It's the same page as the main site, but without the Synthetic reference excluded.

rothaer
05-28-2023, 11:55 PM
Here you can see it, but in the blog related with the site, not in the site properly.

Synthetic coordinates (https://blogs.dnagenics.com/synthetic-g25-coordinates/)

Thanks.

And here the answer by Davidski that I just got:

"I've never had any contact with DNAgenics, so I don't know what they offer and how they produce it. But they're definitely not the real G25 coords."

jelliedsoup
05-29-2023, 12:45 AM
Target: Jelliedsoup_scaled

Distance: 7.6211% / 0.07621096
37.0 ENF
26.2 EHG
13.0 EA
10.4 CHG
8.0 S_Asian_HG
5.4 WHG


With Asian control group (#CHN)

Target: Jelliedsoup_scaled
Distance: 5.4434% / 0.05443385
37.2 ENF
31.0 EHG
19.8 #CHN
9.0 CHG
3.0 WHG

Demirkazık
05-29-2023, 01:15 AM
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 3.9351% / 0.03935085
34.6 ENF
30.2 CHG
13.4 EHG
12.2 EA
9.6 Natufian

alnortedelsur
05-29-2023, 05:08 AM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 4.6506% / 0.04650628
52.8 ENF
24.0 EHG
8.2 CHG
6.0 Iberomaurusian
3.6 SSA
3.0 Amerind
2.4 WHG

alexmegas777
05-29-2023, 05:44 AM
Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 4.6812% / 0.04681193
58.2 ENF
27.0 EHG
11.8 CHG
3.0 WHG

Kiel
05-29-2023, 06:56 AM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 5.3188% / 0.05318835
50.2 ENF
31.0 EHG
11.2 CHG
7.6 WHG

Petalpusher
05-29-2023, 08:46 AM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 6.9124% / 0.06912432
49.4 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.0 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
13.4 WHG:LUX_Loschbour
7.2 CHG:GEO_CHG

Distance to: Petalpusher
0.19912926 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.23532212 MAG:BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2
0.26864059 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
0.28718639 CHG:GEO_CHG
0.30030657 WHG:LUX_Loschbour
0.36781831 Natufian:Levant_Natufian
0.49799471 Iberomaurusian:MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.49954314 S_Asian_HG:Jarawa
0.54280668 Amerind:RUS_Kolyma_Meso
0.63802393 EA:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.65290556 OHG:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4
0.79955137 SSA:Yoruba

Jana
05-29-2023, 09:14 AM
My dream, I misunderstood you. Why gypsies?

It's a common saying here and basically means everyone will say what he possesses is the best :)

Btw I have lowest EHG from all Croats I've ever seen and very high WHG plus my CHG is kinda high too.
my both parents also have very low EHG and very high WHG

I wonder does that means we have more northern Illyrian ancestry compared to other countrymen. north Illyrians were high in WHG.

Katarzyna
05-29-2023, 09:25 AM
Target: Katarzyna_scaled
Distance: 7.5752% / 0.07575231
43.0 ENF
41.2 EHG
8.0 CHG
7.8 WHG

Aila
05-29-2023, 09:27 AM
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 6.3514% / 0.06351357
50.2 EHG
35.2 NF
6.8 CHG
4.8 WHG
3.0 EA

rothaer
05-29-2023, 09:58 AM
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 6.3514% / 0.06351357
50.2 EHG
35.2 NF
6.8 CHG
4.8 WHG
3.0 EA

Okay, Lemminkäinen is dethroned. :)

Katarzyna
05-29-2023, 11:38 AM
Thanks.

And here the answer by Davidski that I just got:

"I've never had any contact with DNAgenics, so I don't know what they offer and how they produce it. But they're definitely not the real G25 coords."

Does IllustrativeDNA have the real coordinates or also just synthesised ones?

ugochaves
05-29-2023, 02:22 PM
Target: Aila_scaled
Distance: 6.3514% / 0.06351357
50.2 EHG
35.2 NF
6.8 CHG
4.8 WHG
3.0 EA
Do you have narrow eyes or a European type? You have a very high East Asia.

Lemminkäinen
05-29-2023, 02:37 PM
Okay, Lemminkäinen is dethroned. :)

I give it Aila willingly, but have you thought about SHG, maybe it isn't just something between WHG and EHG. Earliest dwellers came to the seaside soon after the ice shield retreated.

ugochaves
05-29-2023, 02:52 PM
I give it Aila willingly, but have you thought about SHG, maybe it isn't just something between WHG and EHG. Earliest dwellers came to the seaside soon after the ice shield retreated.
Now we know who killed all the mammoths - Aila

Lemminkäinen
05-29-2023, 03:00 PM
Does IllustrativeDNA have the real coordinates or also just synthesised ones?

Davidski original:

Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 6.3349% / 0.06334926
48.6 EHG
38.0 ENF
7.4 CHG
6.0 WHG

IllustrativeDNA:

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 6.2090% / 0.06209045
48.4 EHG
37.6 ENF
7.6 CHG
6.2 WHG
0.2 EA

Rothaer regretted that I hided my yellow jacket, but as you see Davidski's original lefr it totally out.

Lemminkäinen
05-29-2023, 03:07 PM
Now we know who killed all the mammoths - Aila

Aila is the capo.

Katarzyna
05-29-2023, 03:14 PM
Davidski original:

Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 6.3349% / 0.06334926
48.6 EHG
38.0 ENF
7.4 CHG
6.0 WHG

IllustrativeDNA:

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 6.2090% / 0.06209045
48.4 EHG
37.6 ENF
7.6 CHG
6.2 WHG
0.2 EA

Rothaer regretted that I hided my yellow jacket, but as you see Davidski's original lefr it totally out.

Do you also have for reference self simulated coords? Like transformed from K35 into G25

Lemminkäinen
05-29-2023, 03:21 PM
Do you also have for reference self simulated coords? Like transformed from K35 into G25

Just now I have not, but maybe I could do a comparison using simulated K13 and K35 coords. Can you or someone else suggest good tests. Maybe a more detailed test than this one?

ugochaves
05-29-2023, 03:26 PM
Aila is the capo.
Capo what is it? does not translate. Maybe capro?

Lemminkäinen
05-29-2023, 03:34 PM
Capo what is it? does not translate. Maybe capro?

Mafia boss. She is a spiritual leader of the mammoth clan.

Duke
05-29-2023, 06:31 PM
Target: duke_g25_scaled
Distance: 5.0575% / 0.05057535
50.2 ENF
35.0 EHG
11.4 CHG
3.4 WHG

I am 50-50

Aila
05-29-2023, 10:53 PM
Now we know who killed all the mammoths - Aila

Lol
A hunting woman (?)
http://www.ismoluukkonen.net/about/rock_kuvat/010.jpg

The movie probably was total crap, but for teenagers, Jean M. Auel's book: "The Clan of the Cave Bear" is a good read imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsZAM50CnMQ&ab_channel=MarianM%C3%BCller

Aila
05-29-2023, 10:58 PM
Mafia boss. She is a spiritual leader of the mammoth clan.

You meant the Bear Clan, as you don’t usually kill your own Totemic Ancestor.
https://assets.lily.fi/sites/lily/files/user/2892/2011/12/puidenkansa5.jpg

Sorry, can’t help myself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuDOS60twVU&ab_channel=ImeldaAlmqvist

Ritz06
05-30-2023, 04:19 PM
Target:
Distance: 4.6443% / 0.04644320
43.6 ENF
26.2 EHG
26.0 CHG
2.2 EA
2.0 MAG

rothaer
05-30-2023, 10:39 PM
Does IllustrativeDNA have the real coordinates or also just synthesised ones?

They actually have real. They are the only ones that Davidski shared his secret G25 calculator with (or he calculates for them).

rothaer
05-30-2023, 10:52 PM
I give it Aila willingly, but have you thought about SHG, maybe it isn't just something between WHG and EHG. Earliest dwellers came to the seaside soon after the ice shield retreated.

I think that the immigration of man to Scandinavia (Scandinavian peninsula) is found out with confidence. "Scenario a + b" was determined (see pic). WHG and EHG came and SHG is a mixture of those. There was no other source for humans at that time and that region.

https://i.imgur.com/O68Q2Ge.jpg

rothaer
05-30-2023, 11:06 PM
Does IllustrativeDNA have the real coordinates or also just synthesised ones?

Lemminkäinen wrote something that made me hestitate about what I said (IllustrativeDNA giving real G25 coords). I still think it's correct what I said but please note a little reservation till I in this thread will confirm it or not. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: I found folks at Anthrogenica that assured that their G25 coords from IllustrativeDNA are identical with those that they got from Davidski

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?27394-IllustrativeDNA-is-providing-incorrect-G25-coordinates-don-t-buy-from-them!&p=906484&viewfull=1#post906484
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?27394-IllustrativeDNA-is-providing-incorrect-G25-coordinates-don-t-buy-from-them!&p=906889&viewfull=1#post906889

and moreover, Davidski himself stated in his own blog to cooperate with IllustrativeDNA and told those coords are "legit".

https://i.imgur.com/r4n05yu.jpg

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

rothaer
05-30-2023, 11:12 PM
Target:
Distance: 4.6443% / 0.04644320
43.6 ENF
26.2 EHG
26.0 CHG
2.2 EA
2.0 MAG

Scoring MAG (Magdalénien) is very strange. It's the Western European population prior to the expansion of WHG and usually just some modern Southern French do score very small proportions of that. It became genetically exterminated in the other parts of Europe. Could you remove MAG and re-run? I'm curious for what it may be substituted with.

Aila
05-31-2023, 12:01 AM
Lemminkäinen wrote something that made me hestitating about what I said (IllustrativeDNA giving real G25 coords). I still think it's correct what I said but please note a little reservation till I in this thread will confirm it or not. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: I found someone at Anthrogenica that assured that his G25 coords from IllustrativeDNA are identical with those that he got from Davidski and moreover, Davidski himself stated in his own blog to cooperate with IllustrativeDNA and told those coords are "legit".


https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

I did my research prior to getting my cords from the illustrativedna, but appreciating your conscientiousness here.

Lemminkäinen
05-31-2023, 09:28 AM
Lemminkäinen wrote something that made me hestitate about what I said (IllustrativeDNA giving real G25 coords). I still think it's correct what I said but please note a little reservation till I in this thread will confirm it or not. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: I found folks at Anthrogenica that assured that their G25 coords from IllustrativeDNA are identical with those that they got from Davidski

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?27394-IllustrativeDNA-is-providing-incorrect-G25-coordinates-don-t-buy-from-them!&p=906484&viewfull=1#post906484
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?27394-IllustrativeDNA-is-providing-incorrect-G25-coordinates-don-t-buy-from-them!&p=906889&viewfull=1#post906889

and moreover, Davidski himself stated in his own blog to cooperate with IllustrativeDNA and told those coords are "legit".

https://i.imgur.com/r4n05yu.jpg

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

I used same raw data, Sequencing.com 20M cropped to the 1M corresponding the data used in studies, but would it be possible that Davidski and IllustrativeDNA use different methods, although have similar background patterns? Also, in detailed tests populations are often generically quite close each other and same results can be achieved combining different groups.

Here is another example https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?364658-Tomenable-G25-6th-century-BCE-World-calculator-v-4-0-(scaled)&p=7724517&viewfull=1#post7724517

But this is already more "stunning" https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?373367-Iron-Age-Europe-G25-Calculator&p=7723267&viewfull=1#post7723267. Closely relative populations gives a lot possible combinations. So if you have created a test using hundreds closely relative pops you can take the result with a pinch of salt. Know your data!

Ritz06
06-01-2023, 04:46 PM
Scoring MAG (Magdalénien) is very strange. It's the Western European population prior to the expansion of WHG and usually just some modern Southern French do score very small proportions of that. It became genetically exterminated in the other parts of Europe. Could you remove MAG and re-run? I'm curious for what it may be substituted with.

Target:
Distance: 4.6487% / 0.04648699
43.8 ENF
26.4 EHG
26.0 CHG
2.0 EA
1.0 WHG
0.6 S_Asian_HG
0.2 Natufian

Katarzyna
07-27-2023, 03:46 PM
Update with real coords

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 7.0097% / 0.07009733
41.8 ENF
41.4 EHG
8.4 CHG
8.4 WHG

Rafael Passoni
07-27-2023, 03:55 PM
Target: me_scaled
Distance: 3.8528% / 0.03852762
67.8 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.4 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
12.2 CHG:GEO_CHG
3.6 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

marco
07-27-2023, 08:09 PM
Deleted

marco
07-27-2023, 08:24 PM
With a better source for my son

Target: Son_scaled
Distance: 1.5834% / 0.01583353
37.0 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
28.6 Iberomaurusian
14.8 TZA_Pemba_600BP
5.8 ENF
4.0 CHG
3.8 EHG
3.0 WHG
2.0 Natufian
1.0 OHG

ScandinavianCelt
07-28-2023, 03:43 AM
Target: Brad.RSIDMerged.Official.G25
Distance: 6.1834% / 0.06183368

44.4 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
37.0 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
12.0 CHG:GEO_CHG
6.6 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

ScandinavianCelt
07-28-2023, 03:57 AM
Yes, you are totally right, I have read it now...:D



Well, so in July I will get the real ones from Davidski.

they are almost identical

Erronkari
07-28-2023, 04:10 AM
Target: Wog_scaled
Distance: 4.7724% / 0.04772363
58.2 ENF
19.0 EHG
7.6 CHG
7.6 WHG
6.8 MAG
0.8 Amerind


Distance to: Wog_scaled
0.15920278 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.22025966 MAG:BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2
0.26377065 Natufian:Levant_Natufian
0.28037142 CHG:GEO_CHG
0.29831300 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
0.38124512 WHG:LUX_Loschbour
0.44975445 S_Asian_HG:Jarawa
0.45519437 Iberomaurusian:MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.50937575 Amerind:RUS_Kolyma_Meso
0.60035743 EA:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.61027620 OHG:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4
0.76357273 SSA:Yoruba

Eurafricanid
07-28-2023, 04:14 AM
Bruh! :picard2: (deleted)

Erronkari
07-28-2023, 04:22 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.8832% / 0.04883224
60.6 ENF
19.6 EHG
11.0 WHG
7.4 CHG
1.4 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 4.5281% / 0.04528109
64.8 ENF
20.8 EHG
6.6 WHG
4.8 CHG
2.6 Iberomaurusian
0.4 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 5.7336% / 0.05733612
59.8 ENF
21.8 EHG
11.6 WHG
5.8 CHG
1.0 Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_enana
Distance: 5.2007% / 0.05200719
61.6 ENF
18.6 EHG
12.8 WHG
7.0 CHG

Curious you and your parents didn't scored Magreb...
Nor Gallop...
I am suspecting I could have some ancient morisco ancestry... :confused:

Eurafricanid
07-28-2023, 04:49 AM
Curious you and your parents didn't scored Magreb...
Nor Gallop...
I am suspecting I could have some ancient morisco ancestry... :confused:

The MAG there isn't magreb (I think, because it wouldn't make sense if it is), the magrebi component is the Iberomaurusian.

Target: Moroccan
Distance: 2.2227% / 0.02227545
31.8 ENF
25.1 Iberomaurusian
18.7 Natufian
14.2 SSA
7.2 CHG
3.0 EHG

majevica
07-28-2023, 09:10 AM
Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 5.4841% / 0.05484060
54.2 ENF
32.0 EHG
9.0 CHG
4.8 WHG

marco
07-28-2023, 10:26 AM
The MAG there isn't magreb (I think, because it wouldn't make sense if it is), the magrebi component is the Iberomaurusian.

Target: Moroccan
Distance: 2.2227% / 0.02227545
31.8 ENF
25.1 Iberomaurusian
18.7 Natufian
14.2 SSA
7.2 CHG
3.0 EHG

Strange to see the average Moroccan have more natufian then my son considering we have heavy arab roots and I didn't know there eef was so low

Had to use a better source for my son since the distances was high his about 8 percent natufian

Target: Son_scaled
Distance: 1.5834% / 0.01583353
37.0 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
28.6 Iberomaurusian
14.8 TZA_Pemba_600BP
5.8 ENF
4.0 CHG
3.8 EHG
3.0 WHG
2.0 Natufian
1.0 OHG

Same source added for Moroccan

Target: Moroccan
Distance: 2.3768% / 0.02376813
26.2 Iberomaurusian
23.6 ENF
16.2 Natufian
10.8 COG_Kindoki_230BP
10.4 TUR_Catalhoyuk_N_Ceramic
6.0 CHG
3.2 COG_NgongoMbata_220BP
3.2 EHG
0.4 WHG


Me

Target: Me
Distance: 2.1310% / 0.02130953
29.0 ENF
26.8 Natufian
18.6 Iberomaurusian
11.6 COG_NgongoMbata_220BP
9.0 CHG
3.0 EHG
1.8 COG_Kindoki_230BP
0.2 OHG

Gallop
07-28-2023, 10:50 AM
Curious you and your parents didn't scored Magreb...
Nor Gallop...
I am suspecting I could have some ancient morisco ancestry... :confused:

Actually in Gedmatch I don't get any result with Iberomaurusian as I do for example with Ust-ishim man and others so I was always skeptical about any result with iberomaurusian, that already from the beginning the label has been wrongly indicated.

lockdownboredom
07-28-2023, 03:45 PM
Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 5.9425% / 0.05942486
62.6 ENF
23.0 EHG
14.4 CHG

Target: Nephew
Distance: 4.3677% / 0.04367745
66.4 ENF
20.6 EHG
13.0 CHG

Nurzat
07-28-2023, 05:18 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 5.1992% / 0.05199178
51.8 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
34.8 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
11.0 CHG:GEO_CHG
2.4 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

axel.aleman
07-28-2023, 11:47 PM
Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 7.6949% / 0.07694882
30.6 Amerind
26.0 ENF
25.4 SSA
12.4 EHG
3.4 MAG
2.0 Natufian
0.2 S_Asian_HG

El Asiatico lo toma como amerindio

noricum
07-30-2023, 07:32 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 6.7152% / 0.06715248
51.6 ENF
37.0 EHG
6.6 CHG
4.8 WHG

nee4speed111
08-01-2023, 12:46 PM
Target: nee4speed111_scaled
Distance: 4.5036% / 0.04503572
57.2 Natufian
21.0 ENF
17.4 CHG
4.4 SSA

nittionia
08-01-2023, 06:03 PM
Target: nittionia_scaled
Distance: 5.5838% / 0.05583798
46.8 ENF
35.0 EHG
9.2 WHG
9.0 CHG

Ours are very close Mr. Rothaer

rothaer
08-01-2023, 06:26 PM
Target: nittionia_scaled
Distance: 5.5838% / 0.05583798
46.8 ENF
35.0 EHG
9.2 WHG
9.0 CHG

Ours are very close Mr. Rothaer

Indeed, Nini.

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 5.9313% / 0.05931296
45.0 ENF
36.6 EHG
9.6 WHG
8.8 CHG

The reason is that much of the genetic diversity today is caused by genetic drifts in various populations that occured less than 10 ky ago. So a number of today's genetic differences are not graspable and thus not existent in the more general terms of 10 kybp.

As you can see you are in these very basic terms neatly the relative "Latina" among us two as you have a little bit higher ENF and CHG, the two more southern components.

Dušan
08-01-2023, 06:54 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 6.2518% / 0.06251820
54.0 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
31.2 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
11.0 CHG:GEO_CHG
3.8 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

Kenshiro
01-28-2025, 10:38 AM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.7307% / 0.02730739
61.2 ENF
19.4 EHG
18.6 CHG
0.4 Iberomaurusian
0.4 Natufian
Not so much bad fit... Very interesting
I'm from the 10000 BC ahahaha

tk'es
01-28-2025, 02:56 PM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 5.4083% / 0.05408267
48.4 CHG
27.6 ENF
14.4 EHG
6.6 Natufian
3.0 EA

Rhegion
02-08-2025, 06:57 PM
Target: Me
Distance: 3.0258% / 0.03025780
53.4 ENF
21.0 CHG
14.6 Natufian
10.8 EHG
0.2 Iberomaurusian

Target: Father
Distance: 3.1768% / 0.03176844
50.0 ENF
21.0 CHG
17.8 Natufian
11.2 EHG

Target: Maternal_Grandpa
Distance: 2.7938% / 0.02793822
56.2 ENF
22.4 CHG
10.4 EHG
9.6 Natufian
1.4 Iberomaurusian

Target: Maternal_Grandma
Distance: 2.9497% / 0.02949692
54.2 ENF
22.0 CHG
15.0 Natufian
8.6 EHG
0.2 Iberomaurusian

Target: Cousin
Distance: 2.8642% / 0.02864221
55.0 ENF
23.2 CHG
12.0 Natufian
9.2 EHG
0.6 SSA

vader
02-08-2025, 07:16 PM
Target: CelticAmazigh_scaled
Distance: 5.2073% / 0.05207261
56.2 ENF
19.6 EHG
9.6 WHG
7.8 CHG
5.8 Iberomaurusian
1.0 SSA

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 18.9160% / 0.18915997
47.6 Amerind
25.6 ENF
20.2 EHG
3.6 Natufian
3.0 SSA

Target: Combined
Distance: 9.2080% / 0.09207971
44.6 ENF
27.2 EHG
21.2 Amerind
4.0 Iberomaurusian
2.2 SSA
0.8 CHG

ScandinavianCelt
02-08-2025, 09:12 PM
Target: Brad.RSIDMerged.Official.G25
Distance: 6.1834% / 0.06183368

44.4 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
37.0 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
12.0 CHG:GEO_CHG
6.6 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

above is DNAGenics merged, below is averaged IllustrativeDNA:

Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
Distance: 6.0492% / 0.06049239
44.4 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
36.6 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
12.0 CHG:GEO_CHG
7.0 WHG:LUX_Loschbour


Nearly identical, .4% total difference-- and everyone bashes DNAGenics? for what reason?

Balboa
02-11-2025, 02:43 PM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 3.2789% / 0.03278899
72.8 ENF
11.8 CHG
8.0 EHG
5.2 WHG
2.2 Iberomaurusian

Gannicus
02-12-2025, 03:10 AM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.20266514 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.22282728 MAG:BEL_GoyetQ2:GoyetQ2
0.26149284 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
0.27548188 CHG:GEO_CHG
0.29307497 Natufian:Levant_Natufian
0.36987859 WHG:LUX_Loschbour
0.46612465 S_Asian_HG:Jarawa
0.47647008 Iberomaurusian:MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.51843923 Amerind:RUS_Kolyma_Meso
0.61699295 EA:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.62315904 OHG:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4
0.77204849 SSA:Yoruba

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0665% / 0.06652590
49.9 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
31.9 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
9.5 CHG:GEO_CHG
8.7 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

Nurzat
02-12-2025, 05:02 AM
<table style="border-collapse:collapse;">
<tr><th>Target</th><th>Distance</th><th>ENF</th><th>EHG</th><th>CHG</th><th>WHG</th></tr>
<tr><td>Nurzat</td><td>0.05199178</td><td>51.8</td><td>34.8</td><td>11.0</td><td>2.4</td></tr>
<tr><td>Nurzat_maternal_grandma</td><td>0.05440955</td><td>53.6</td><td>30.4</td><td>12.0</td><td>4.0</td></tr>
<tr><td>Nurzat_dad</td><td>0.06086974</td><td>50.0</td><td>37.8</td><td>9.6</td><td>2.6</td></tr>
</table>

Ghitza von Pigsty
02-12-2025, 12:09 PM
Any idea where that elevated WHG might come from? I mean it's not that high compared to other posters here , but it's pretty elevated compared to other romanians / south slavs..

Target: GVP_scaled
Distance: 4.4566% / 0.04456598
49.8 ENF
25.8 EHG
15.6 CHG
6.4 WHG
2.4 Natufian

Shardana
03-15-2025, 09:10 PM
Target: Shardana_G25_Scaled
Distance: 3.4007% / 0.03400686
79.4 ENF
15.6 WHG
3.0 EHG
1.4 CHG
0.6 Iberomaurusian

Figaro
03-15-2025, 09:13 PM
Target: TonislavFather
Distance: 6.5475% / 0.06547478
49.0 ENF
36.2 EHG
8.6 CHG
6.2 WHG

Target: TonislavMother
Distance: 6.0469% / 0.06046888
47.0 ENF
37.8 EHG
9.0 CHG
6.2 WHG

ScandinavianCelt
03-15-2025, 09:32 PM
Centromeres:

Target: SC_K36_Centromeres&LCR_Merged_G25
Distance: 5.9620% / 0.05961986
52.8 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
37.0 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
6.4 CHG:GEO_CHG
2.4 OHG:AUS_Willandra_Lakes_WLH4
1.4 WHG:LUX_Loschbour

Target: SC_K36_Centromeres&LCR_Merged_G25
Distance: 6.3963% / 0.06396346 | ADC: 2x RC
58.2 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
41.8 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N

EasternLusitanian
03-15-2025, 09:57 PM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0391% / 0.03906752
58.9 ENF
18.7 EHG
8.9 CHG
7.1 WHG
6.4 Iberomaurusian


Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 0.0519% / 0.05192407
61.8 ENF
18.6 EHG
8.0 CHG
7.3 WHG
4.3 Iberomaurusian

My mom gets to basque levels of ENF