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Jana
06-08-2023, 09:26 PM
for descendants of k.u.k. Monarchy

use this better Vahaduo: https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html


Austrian_Burgenland,38.13,26.01,13.17,6.50,12.79,0 .87,0.36,0.27,0.62,0.24,0.71,0.00,0.32
Austrian_Carinthia,32.36,33.44,14.41,6.52,10.49,1. 02,0.34,0.00,0.64,0.27,0.33,0.04,0.07
Austrian_Lower_Austria,37.42,24.75,17.87,8.14,7.73 ,1.585,0.97,0.24,0.425,0.225,0.64,0,0
Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria,39.31,26.14,14.78,6.64,9.49,1.64,1.0 6,0.17,0.22,0.23,0.29,0.03,0.00
Austrian_Styria,34.20,31.69,15.07,7.48,8.45,0.79,0 .31,0.33,0.77,0.19,0.16,0.21,0.36
Austrian_Tyrol,36.88,20.87,18.12,8.21,11.75,1.88,0 .20,0.34,0.72,0.52,0.33,0.00,0.07
Bosniak_Central,26.10,33.87,14.28,8.71,12.17,1.25, 2.04,0.25,0.43,0.73,0.05,0.10,0.00
Bosniak_Krajina_East,25.42,33.26,15.78,8.81,12.06, 1.94,0.54,0.43,0.22,0.93,0.36,0.15,0.11
Bosniak_Krajina_West,26.69,31.26,15.12,8.56,15.05, 0.86,0.47,0.54,0.23,0.64,0.37,0.20,0.03
Bosniak_Northeast,25.74,35.57,13.91,9.65,11.05,1.5 7,0.70,0.22,0.63,0.21,0.32,0.15,0.30
Bosniak_Southeast,25.02,31.16,15.91,7.77,16.02,1.3 1,0.97,0.36,0.45,0.56,0.26,0.14,0.06
Croat_Bosnia,26.51,32.35,15.57,8.02,13.77,1.43,0.5 9,0.29,0.49,0.48,0.34,0.10,0.07
Croat_Central,29.40,34.03,14.89,7.02,10.88,1.28,0. 52,0.22,0.47,0.45,0.41,0.24,0.13
Croat_Dalmatia,26.36,31.49,16.09,8.84,13.31,1.57,0 .44,0.30,0.54,0.48,0.35,0.10,0.11
Croat_GorskiKotar,31.45,32.69,14.41,7.40,10.30,1.1 9,0.67,0.29,0.54,0.52,0.30,0.13,0.11
Croat_Herzegovina,24.93,32.69,15.99,8.60,14.10,1.2 8,0.55,0.19,0.55,0.48,0.40,0.04,0.11
Croat_Istria,27.52,31.63,15.79,7.79,13.90,1.06,0.5 2,0.38,0.48,0.37,0.35,0.18,0.05
Croat_Kvarner,28.57,32.45,14.23,8.28,12.57,1.24,0. 49,0.36,0.68,0.23,0.43,0.13,0.12
Croat_Lika,27.50,32.41,15.69,7.72,12.86,1.28,0.35, 0.19,0.69,0.56,0.55,0.08,0.12
Croat_Northwest,31.23,34.80,13.68,6.85,8.93,1.29,0 .54,0.44,0.50,0.97,0.41,0.20,0.16
Croat_Slavonia,26.53,33.17,15.98,7.53,13.91,0.80,0 .77,0.17,0.51,0.56,0.43,0.02,0.07
Czech,32.33,37.42,11.45,5.60,8.50,1.59,1.15,0.44,0 .51,0.91,0.00,0.05,0.06
German_North_Bohemia,38.27,31.61,13.93,5.63,7.42,0 .38,0.90,0.53,0.10,0.41,0.50,0.00,0.31
German_North_Moravia,40.94,27.21,13.27,7.36,7.57,1 .49,1.04,0,0,0.48,0.19,0.46,0
German_West_Bohemia,38.06,27.32,15.52,7.55,9.66,0, 0.17,0,0.4,0.58,0.74,0,0
Hungarian_Alföld_South,29.97,33.38,14.43,6.46,10.5 ,1.16,0.85,0.57,1.42,0.61,0.29,0.24,0.14
Hungarian_Alföld_North,29.26,33.69,13.68,7.33,10.6 8,1.21,0.89,0.58,1.13,0.74,0.49,0.19,0.14
Hungarian_Central+Budapest,30.52,32.38,14.39,7.33, 10.52,1.19,0.82,0.55,1.13,0.53,0.27,0.19,0.16
Hungarian_North,30.32,35.58,13.23,6.22,10.01,0.8,1 .1,0.46,1.12,0.46,0.38,0.16,0.17
Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East,29.48,33.42,13.54, 6.24,8.68,0.83,0.73,0.58,1.32,0.66,0.31,0.38,0.25
Hungarian_Slovakia_West,30.92,31.78,14.63,7.24,10. 18,1.18,1.42,0.3,1.22,0.22,0.62,0.11,0.2
Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West,31.78,31.68,14 .11,7.49,10.1,1.14,0.93,0.47,0.94,0.53,0.38,0.21,0 .25
Hungarian_Transdanubia_South,31.53,31.28,14.42,7.3 3,10.47,1.28,0.88,0.42,0.94,0.74,0.38,0.1,0.21
Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium,28.09,31.05,15.37,7 .78,11.86,1.53,1.03,0.69,1.47,0.58,0.26,0.18,0.07
Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat,32.55,32.83,13.53,6.33,9 .03,1.38,1.07,0.49,1.15,0.9,0.37,0.22,0.15
Hungarian_Székely,28.07,28.61,15.03,8.52,12.81,1.3 9,1.04,0.67,2.27,0.7,0.38,0.2,0.14
Italian_Trentino,33.67,17.74,23.27,5.53,17.18,1.61 ,0,0.16,0.12,0.22,0.31,0.16,0.03
Italian_Friuli,32.26,16.88,20.62,7.19,18.53,2.99,0 .31,0.3,0.05,0.8,0.02,0.04,0.01
Jew_Ashkenazi,16.48,8.34,18.39,10.85,36.34,5.86,0. 10,0.85,1.05,0.21,0.27,0.89,0.39
Serb_CentralCroatia,24.87,30.78,16.72,9.02,15.20,1 .31,0.56,0.30,0.37,0.46,0.29,0.04,0.08
Serb_NorthEastBosnia,25.39,30.70,16.25,8.54,14.60, 1.78,0.47,0.32,0.99,0.56,0.33,0.07,0.01
Serb_Dalmatia,25.69,28.77,16.89,9.22,15.58,1.30,0. 60,0.31,0.63,0.45,0.41,0.10,0.06
Serb_Herzegovina,25.43,27.54,17.48,8.47,17.11,1.75 ,0.16,0.15,0.59,0.46,0.65,0.14,0.06
Serb_BosanskaKrajina,24.76,30.10,16.83,9.58,14.55, 1.55,0.69,0.37,0.40,0.42,0.58,0.01,0.15
Serb_Lika,25.20,29.70,16.86,8.45,15.90,1.58,0.41,0 .19,0.68,0.56,0.29,0.13,0.04
Serb_Vojvodina,24.65,28.09,17.38,9.48,16.14,1.63,0 .62,0.43,0.18,0.76,0.45,0.06,0.13
Slovene,31.98,34.42,14.67,6.14,9.29,1.04,0.83,0.12 ,0.54,0.33,0.29,0.10,0.25
Slovak,30.84,37.18,12.99,6.3,8,1.09,1.03,0.39,0.58 ,0.73,0.53,0.15,0.21
Polish_Subcarpathia,28.71,42.67,11.10,6.04,7.21,1. 18,0.44,0.11,1.70,0.23,0.12,0.35,0.13
Lemko_Poland,27.74,37.63,14.89,7.34,9.48,0.24,0.42 ,0.58,0.56,0.60,0.52,0.00,0.00
Polish_Lesser_Poland,31.00,43.23,11.15,5.26,5.63,0 .55,0.47,0.06,0.80,0.85,0.57,0.29,0.16
Romanian_Banat,23.88,25.79,17.43,10.47,17.42,1.87, 0.49,0.57,1.19,0.45,0.26,0.11,0.06
Romanian_Crişana,25.14,27.30,16.89,9.51,16.54,1.32 ,0.69,0.43,0.91,0.60,0.44,0.12,0.10
Romanian_Maramureş,26.03,28.85,16.08,9.29,14.55,1. 83,0.84,0.74,0.77,0.46,0.42,0.07,0.06
Romanian_Transylvania,24.22,26.32,17.35,9.92,17.02 ,1.80,0.57,0.56,1.10,0.59,0.38,0.09,0.10
Romanian_Ukraine,25.37,33.29,12.72,10.48,12.73,1.6 3,0.47,0.89,1.07,0.61,0.28,0.26,0.20
Ukrainian_Carpathians,26.50,38.13,13.24,7.09,9.82, 1.21,1.06,0.35,1.41,0.65,0.25,0.16,0.13
Ukrainian_Galicia,27.87,39.97,12.58,7.17,7.51,1.27 ,1.03,0.33,1.17,0.57,0.37,0.09,0.07

Jana
06-08-2023, 09:27 PM
Distance to: Feiichy

3.79814428 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.95637460 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.09092899 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.16726529 Croat_Kvarner
4.21440387 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.30424209 Croat_Central
4.30688983 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.36394317 Hungarian_Alföld_North
4.52662126 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
4.60483442 Hungarian_Alföld_South

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 2.3366% / 2.33663080

62.3 Bosniak_Northeast
17.1 Austrian_Lower_Austria
16.9 German_West_Bohemia
2.9 Lemko_Poland
0.8 Romanian_Banat

Duke
06-08-2023, 10:07 PM
I think formatting of the source is not working for me

gives me this error, and cant run it

WARNING! Number of white-space characters removed in TABSOURCE data: 1. WARNING! Number of empty lines removed in TABSOURCE data: 2. ERROR! Column number mismatch.

ScandinavianCelt
06-09-2023, 01:23 AM
Bad fit pour moi.


Target: brad.k13
Distance: 7.7263% / 7.72629924

100.0 German_North_Moravia

Dušan
06-09-2023, 06:33 AM
Target: Dušan
Distance: 4.5273% / 4.52730498
39.1 Serb_CentralCroatia
31.2 Bosniak_Krajina_East
15.7 Ukrainian_Carpathians
14.0 Serb_BosanskaKrajina

Benyzero
06-09-2023, 09:44 AM
Distance to: Benny
3.88708117 Austrian_Carinthia
4.27629513 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.30073250 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.33175484 Hungarian_Alföld_South
4.33597740 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.39885212 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
4.46932881 Slovene
4.57879897 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West

Target: Benny
Distance: 1.8928% / 1.89280206
50.8 Polish_Lesser_Poland
42.3 Italian_Trentino
6.7 Croat_Slavonia
0.2 Polish_Subcarpathia

Jana
06-09-2023, 10:12 AM
Distance to: Stears

4.61033621 Croat_Kvarner
4.64856967 Romanian_Ukraine
4.81763427 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
4.92214384 Hungarian_Alföld_North
4.94408738 Bosniak_Central
5.15090283 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
5.30119798 Hungarian_Székely
5.34793418 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
5.59629342 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
5.64721170 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South

Target: Stears
Distance: 2.8339% / 2.83388936

78.5 Romanian_Ukraine
15.7 German_North_Moravia
5.6 Austrian_Lower_Austria
0.2 Ukrainian_Galicia

Duke
06-09-2023, 10:34 AM
Distance to: duke_k13
2.29660619 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.13379961 Croat_Dalmatia
3.34595278 Croat_Herzegovina
3.80034209 Croat_Bosnia
3.84352703 Croat_Lika
3.87862089 Bosniak_Central
4.02171605 Croat_Slavonia
4.30769080 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
4.31256304 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
4.39020501 Bosniak_Northeast
4.49545326 Croat_Istria
4.53039733 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
4.56421954 Serb_CentralCroatia
4.73992616 Romanian_Ukraine
4.92472334 Croat_Kvarner
4.97653494 Bosniak_Krajina_West
5.38887743 Romanian_Maramureş
5.60974153 Bosniak_Southeast
5.76276843 Croat_Central
5.76583038 Serb_Lika
5.93600876 Serb_Dalmatia
6.02018272 Hungarian_Székely
6.02368658 Hungarian_Alföld_North
6.60332492 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
6.60810866 Hungarian_Alföld_South

Target: duke_k13
Distance: 2.1417% / 2.14170262
57.1 Bosniak_Krajina_East
28.8 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
12.4 Lemko_Poland
1.7 Austrian_Lower_Austria

Turska Hrvatska all the way :D

Jana
06-09-2023, 10:36 AM
^^^^Bosniak Krajina East average is very Croatian-like genetically and highly Slavic too.

Gallop
06-09-2023, 10:46 AM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 15.8719% / 15.87194225
72.6 Italian_Trentino
17.4 Austrian_Tyrol
10.0 Austrian_Lower_Austria

Target: Father
Distance: 12.5881% / 12.58814522
100.0 Italian_Trentino

Distance to: Father
14.93188240 40.00% Austrian_Tyrol + 60.00% Italian_Friuli
15.07459064 22.00% Austrian_Lower_Austria + 78.00% Italian_Friuli
15.31782008 11.00% Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria + 89.00% Italian_Friuli
15.32937035 8.60% German_North_Moravia + 91.40% Italian_Friuli
15.39303431 5.40% German_West_Bohemia + 94.60% Italian_Friuli
15.40975852 2.20% German_North_Bohemia + 97.80% Italian_Friuli
15.96274430 96.40% Austrian_Tyrol + 3.60% Jew_Ashkenazi

Distance to: Gallop
15.87704837 31.80% Austrian_Tyrol + 68.20% Italian_Trentino
15.87909445 21.00% Austrian_Lower_Austria + 79.00% Italian_Trentino

Vitez
06-09-2023, 10:53 AM
I think I literally represent the Empire haha

Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.0106% / 1.01062023
45.6 Bosniak_Krajina_East
25.2 Hungarian_Székely
10.8 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.0 Austrian_Lower_Austria
8.0 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
1.4 Italian_Friuli

Distance to: Vitez
1.72412297 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
2.55957028 Croat_Lika
2.77748087 Croat_Kvarner
3.18709899 Croat_Dalmatia
3.31012084 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.40019117 Hungarian_Alföld_North
3.42474817 Croat_Bosnia
3.45505427 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.45731109 Croat_Istria
3.45771601 Croat_Central
3.63461140 Bosniak_Central
3.69256009 Hungarian_Alföld_South
3.86453102 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.00438510 Croat_Slavonia
4.01799701 Hungarian_Székely
4.24892928 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.35008046 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.54215808 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
4.60268400 Croat_Herzegovina
4.61715280 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.65782138 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
4.68704598 Bosniak_Krajina_West
4.97728842 Bosniak_Northeast
5.01503739 Romanian_Ukraine
5.23796716 Romanian_Maramureş

Jana
06-09-2023, 11:20 AM
my granny and her sister were true Austro-Hungarian mixes from Vojvodina :)

Distance to: Feiichy_GrandAunt

4.51382321 Austrian_Burgenland
6.13551954 Austrian_Tyrol
7.16736353 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
7.47515217 German_West_Bohemia
8.65346607 Austrian_Lower_Austria
9.88241873 German_North_Moravia
10.44216453 Hungarian_Székely
10.46957974 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
10.67576227 Italian_Friuli
10.83077098 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West

Target: Feiichy_Aunt
Distance: 1.4304% / 1.43038333

65.9 Austrian_Burgenland
14.9 German_North_Moravia
10.1 Jew_Ashkenazi
9.1 Italian_Friuli

oszkar07
06-09-2023, 11:28 AM
Distance to: Oszkar
3.56850109 German_North_Bohemia
5.64993805 Austrian_Styria
5.83731102 German_North_Moravia
6.25395075 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
6.43314076 German_West_Bohemia
6.48119588 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
7.39740495 Austrian_Carinthia
7.57289905 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
7.66379801 Austrian_Burgenland
7.78249960 Slovene
7.85472469 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
8.05666805 Croat_GorskiKotar
8.39289581 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
8.41156941 Croat_Northwest
8.81895118 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
8.82657776 Austrian_Lower_Austria
9.03074748 Czech
9.34942244 Hungarian_Alföld_South
9.39561068 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
9.67868793 Hungarian_North
9.87401134 Slovak
10.15637731 Hungarian_Alföld_North
10.26422428 Croat_Central
11.41679903 Croat_Kvarner
11.52589693 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium


Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7730% / 2.77304822
38.0 German_North_Moravia
32.5 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
16.9 Polish_Lesser_Poland
10.6 Czech
2.0 Polish_Subcarpathia

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.0999% / 3.09986575 | ADC: 0.5x RC
41.0 German_North_Bohemia
31.7 German_North_Moravia
27.3 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.7847% / 2.78469369 | R3P
42.0 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
31.6 German_North_Moravia
26.4 Polish_Lesser_Poland

Selene
06-09-2023, 11:48 AM
Distance to: Cassie
4.08432369 Croat_Slavonia
4.53747727 Croat_Bosnia
4.66322850 Croat_Herzegovina
4.71141168 Bosniak_Krajina_West
4.86283868 Bosniak_Central
4.87640236 Bosniak_Southeast
5.13435488 Croat_Istria
5.21683812 Croat_Lika
5.49269515 Bosniak_Krajina_East
5.60970587 Croat_Kvarner
5.62855221 Romanian_Ukraine
5.75459816 Croat_Dalmatia
5.86875626 Serb_NorthEastBosnia

Target: Cassie
Distance: 3.0487% / 3.04869504
45.2 Bosniak_Southeast
24.7 Polish_Subcarpathia
18.7 Polish_Lesser_Poland
11.4 Jew_Ashkenazi

Target: Cassie
Distance: 3.1722% / 3.17216565 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.7 Bosniak_Southeast
23.3 Polish_Subcarpathia

rothaer
06-09-2023, 02:59 PM
Not sure how I should acquire my 40+% proto Germanic in that model. :)

Target: rothaer
Distance: 523.9021% / 5.23902112
50.4 Polish_Lesser_Poland
39.2 German_North_Moravia
10.4 German_North_Bohemia

Distance to: rothaer
7.48553271 German_North_Bohemia
8.32818107 Czech
9.28116911 Slovak
9.42869556 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
9.50970031 Austrian_Styria
9.66607987 Slovene
9.88195831 Croat_Northwest
10.40644512 Polish_Lesser_Poland
10.51506538 Austrian_Carinthia
10.83773962 Hungarian_North
11.17263174 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
11.38123456 Croat_GorskiKotar
11.40939087 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
11.51658804 German_North_Moravia
11.92445806 Hungarian_Slovakia_West

Jana
06-09-2023, 03:09 PM
Not sure how I should acquire my 40+% proto Germanic in that model. :)

you can make K13 Prussia/German Empire calculator with all regional pops that lived in it from here: :p

https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

rothaer
06-09-2023, 03:22 PM
you can make K13 Prussia/German Empire calculator with all regional pops that lived in it from here: :p

https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

Target: rothaer
Distance: 92.7027% / 0.92702701
35.0 Russian_Pskov
19.6 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
16.8 German_East_Prussia_Central
9.8 Basque_France
6.4 Russian_Smolensk
5.2 Sámi_Finland
3.8 Irish_Ulster
2.0 Spanish_Galicia
1.4 German_Frisian

Distance to: rothaer
4.07531594 German_Farther_Pomerania
4.26237023 German_West_Prussia
6.61712929 German_Thuringia_East
6.63037706 German_Lower_Silesia
6.85243752 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
7.48553271 German_North_Bohemia
7.62838777 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
7.69772694 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
7.75682925 Sorb_Saxony_Kamenz
7.78738724 German_Saxony
7.83391186 German_Hither_Pomerania
8.32818107 Czech
9.00956159 German_Mecklenburg_West
9.28116911 Slovak
9.41618819 German_County_Glatz

At least here I'm recognisable as a German... ;)

Dušan
06-09-2023, 03:40 PM
https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.7494% / 2.74937121 | R2P
69.9 Montenegro_SouthEast
30.1 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl

Dick
06-09-2023, 04:05 PM
Target: Duck
Distance: 3.6268% / 3.62679963
40.0 Polish_Subcarpathia
30.1 Czech
29.9 Jew_Ashkenazi



Target: Dad
Distance: 0.7370% / 0.73699930
38.3 Romanian_Banat
23.8 Bosniak_Central
13.0 Hungarian_Székely
12.9 German_West_Bohemia
8.6 Romanian_Ukraine
2.4 Austrian_Lower_Austria
1.0 Bosniak_Northeast

Far_away
06-09-2023, 04:09 PM
Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.7494% / 2.74937121 | R2P
69.9 Montenegro_SouthEast
30.1 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl

hey why i don't score Montenegro :p

Target: Nikola
Distance: 1.7983% / 1.79834144
42.3 Greek_Epirus
25.9 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
21.1 Greek_Thrace
4.8 Bosniak_Krajina_West
3.0 Latvian
2.9 Greek_Lefkada

Target: Nikola
Distance: 1.8619% / 1.86185533 | R2P
65.3 Greek_Epirus
34.7 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)

Distance to: Nikola
1.86197141 34.80% German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow) + 65.20% Greek_Epirus
2.03189355 46.40% Croat_Slavonia + 53.60% Greek_Thrace
2.18004968 43.20% Greek_Thrace + 56.80% Serb_CentralCroatia
2.18491730 49.60% Croat_Herzegovina + 50.40% Greek_Thrace
2.21084876 55.00% Bosniak_Southeast + 45.00% Greek_Thrace
2.23285875 26.40% German_East_Prussia_Memelland + 73.60% Greek_Epirus
2.28297151 65.40% Greek_Thrace + 34.60% Lemko_Poland
2.31394752 26.80% German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow) + 73.20% Greek_Thrace
2.31849173 75.20% Greek_Epirus + 24.80% Lithuanian_Žemaitija
2.31993700 73.80% Greek_Epirus + 26.20% Lithuanian_Aukštaitija
2.32921946 47.40% Croat_Bosnia + 52.60% Greek_Thrace
2.33075727 51.40% Bosniak_Krajina_West + 48.60% Greek_Thrace
2.34151590 68.20% Greek_Epirus + 31.80% Polish_Mazovia
2.36871645 58.80% Croat_Herzegovina + 41.20% Greek_Epirus
2.37808669 43.20% Greek_Thrace + 56.80% Serb_WestSerbia

Katarzyna
06-09-2023, 05:37 PM
https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

Distance to: Katarzyna
3.97343680 Polish_Podlaskie
3.99512203 Polish_Mazovia
4.47642715 Ukrainian_Northwest
4.54571227 Polish_Greater_Poland
4.60124983 Polish_Kujavia
4.79504953 Polish_Lesser_Poland
4.87233004 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
5.01837623 Belarusian_Minsk
5.08022637 Ukrainian_North
5.13006823 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
5.30829539 Russian_Smolensk
5.37592783 Russian_Southwest
5.74087101 Polish_Subcarpathia
5.86630207 Polish_Silesia
6.01031613 Upper_Silesia
6.28896653 Polish_South
6.60629245 Ukrainian_South
7.02786596 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
7.41948111 Russian_Ryazan
7.56766807 Sorb_Saxony_Kamenz
8.38261892 Estonian
8.42813740 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
8.48845098 Russian_Kostroma
8.57611800 Russian_Tver-Yaroslavl
8.64835823 Lithuanian_Aukštaitija

Target: Katarzyna
Distance: 239.1845% / 2.39184458 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Polish_Podlaskie
34.6 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
18.2 Estonian
6.8 Finnish_Southwest

Target: Katarzyna
Distance: 175.4321% / 1.75432111
57.0 Latvian
19.6 Finnish_Southwest
9.4 Swiss_Italian
7.6 Greek_Lefkada
4.6 Austrian_Burgenland
1.8 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)

Scandal
06-11-2023, 07:04 PM
Target: Ismeretlen
Distance: 4.3317% / 4.33166051 | R2P
84.2 Polish_Lesser_Poland
15.8 Jew_Ashkenazi

Target: Ismeretlen
Distance: 4.2516% / 4.25161563 | R3P
50.1 Polish_Lesser_Poland
35.7 Polish_Subcarpathia
14.2 Jew_Ashkenazi

noricum
06-12-2023, 08:34 PM
Target: K13Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 277.0948% / 2.77094841 | ADC: 0.5x RC
53.8 Czech
21.6 Austrian_Burgenland
19.0 Austrian_Carinthia
5.6 German_North_Bohemia


Target: K13Noricum(austrian)
Distance: 300.6466% / 3.00646565 | ADC: 1x RC
44.0 Austrian_Carinthia
31.8 Czech
24.2 German_North_Bohemia


Distance to: K13Noricum(austrian)
3.91170040 Austrian_Carinthia
4.03892312 Slovene
4.17924634 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
5.01153669 Croat_Northwest
5.02690760 Hungarian_North
5.10388088 Czech
5.20813786 Croat_GorskiKotar
5.50112716 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
5.58300099 Hungarian_Alföld_South
5.65862174 Austrian_Styria
5.77801869 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
5.84842714 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
5.86306234 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
5.94019360 Slovak
6.14352505 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
6.26045526 Croat_Central
6.35225944 German_North_Bohemia
6.40248389 Hungarian_Alföld_North
7.91505527 Croat_Kvarner
8.59228142 Lemko_Poland
8.63757489 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
8.86434995 Croat_Lika
9.36544179 Croat_Istria
9.40791688 German_West_Bohemia
9.42970307 Ukrainian_Carpathians


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Mamica

Target: K13_noricum_mom
Distance: 213.1077% / 2.13107733 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.6 Czech
22.4 Croat_Northwest
18.0 Hungarian_North
16.0 Bosniak_Northeast

Distance to: K13_noricum_mom
2.60520633 Hungarian_North
2.88340077 Croat_Northwest
3.07668653 Slovak
3.48644518 Czech
3.74320718 Slovene
3.77520860 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
3.91324673 Hungarian_Alföld_North
4.01711339 Hungarian_Alföld_South
4.14468334 Croat_Central
4.31751086 Austrian_Carinthia
4.36479095 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.61599393 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.76600462 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
5.17561591 Lemko_Poland
5.28495979 Ukrainian_Carpathians
5.34040261 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
5.36814679 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
5.72588858 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
5.77033795 Ukrainian_Galicia
6.05071897 Croat_Kvarner
6.58578773 Bosniak_Northeast
6.75093327 Austrian_Styria
7.00828082 Bosniak_Central
7.05725159 Croat_Lika
7.10230948 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium

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брат

Target: noricum_paternal_halfbro(austrian)
Distance: 419.7479% / 4.19747897 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.6 Polish_Subcarpathia
47.4 Ukrainian_Carpathians

Distance to: noricum_paternal_halfbro(austrian)
4.82964802 Ukrainian_Galicia
5.13345887 Polish_Subcarpathia
5.32049810 Ukrainian_Carpathians
6.31516429 Lemko_Poland
6.42766676 Slovak
6.67500562 Polish_Lesser_Poland
7.00281372 Czech
7.19441450 Hungarian_North
8.56039135 Croat_Northwest
8.88587081 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
8.90069098 Croat_Central
8.96520496 Bosniak_Northeast
8.99709953 Hungarian_Alföld_North
9.03035437 Slovene
9.24650745 Hungarian_Alföld_South
9.65963250 Bosniak_Central
10.17606997 Austrian_Carinthia
10.43579896 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
10.50402304 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
10.56479531 Croat_GorskiKotar
10.77991651 Croat_Slavonia
10.80438800 Bosniak_Krajina_East
10.82592721 Croat_Kvarner
10.99692230 Croat_Lika
11.00096814 Hungarian_Slovakia_West

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Schwägerin

Target: noricum_inlaw(austrian)
Distance: 234.7323% / 2.34732290 | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.6 Austrian_Lower_Austria
13.2 Serb_Vojvodina
7.2 Italian_Trentino

Distance to: noricum_inlaw(austrian)
3.56544177 Austrian_Lower_Austria
5.84314984 Austrian_Tyrol
5.88899822 German_West_Bohemia
7.09253833 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
8.53321745 Austrian_Styria
8.60308084 Austrian_Burgenland
9.27465363 German_North_Moravia
9.45152369 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
9.71563688 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
9.91842225 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
10.07882930 German_North_Bohemia
10.39990865 Croat_GorskiKotar
10.43402128 Hungarian_Székely
10.66744112 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
10.87523793 Austrian_Carinthia
10.87675043 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
11.02301683 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
11.62871016 Slovene
11.79591879 Hungarian_Alföld_South
12.06969345 Croat_Kvarner
12.08892468 Croat_Istria
12.14487546 Romanian_Maramureş
12.19910243 Croat_Central
12.19911882 Italian_Trentino
12.24822028 Croat_Lika

Dick
12-22-2023, 04:46 AM
Target: Ismeretlen
Distance: 4.3317% / 4.33166051 | R2P
84.2 Polish_Lesser_Poland
15.8 Jew_Ashkenazi

Target: Ismeretlen
Distance: 4.2516% / 4.25161563 | R3P
50.1 Polish_Lesser_Poland
35.7 Polish_Subcarpathia
14.2 Jew_Ashkenazi
Phew. You get Jew_Ashkenazi too.

some girl made me worry about my results.



Target: Duck
Distance: 3.6268% / 3.62679963
40.0 Polish_Subcarpathia
30.1 Czech
29.9 Jew_Ashkenazi



Target: Dad
Distance: 0.7370% / 0.73699930
38.3 Romanian_Banat
23.8 Bosniak_Central
13.0 Hungarian_Székely
12.9 German_West_Bohemia
8.6 Romanian_Ukraine
2.4 Austrian_Lower_Austria
1.0 Bosniak_Northeast

majevica
12-22-2023, 04:57 AM
Target: k13_result
Distance: 206.4020% / 2.06401982
50.8 Serb_Vojvodina
36.4 Lemko_Poland
12.8 Italian_Trentino

Distance to: k13_result
3.38152333 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
3.40620023 Croat_Dalmatia
3.41871321 Serb_CentralCroatia
3.51825241 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
3.60392841 Serb_Lika
3.60555128 Croat_Istria
3.84144504 Serb_Dalmatia
3.88518983 Croat_Bosnia
3.94115465 Croat_Slavonia
4.02736887 Croat_Herzegovina

Melkiirs
12-22-2023, 05:02 AM
Target: Milkaner
Distance: 2.3436% / 2.34364501
46.7 Jew_Ashkenazi
38.8 Czech
14.5 Austrian_Burgenland

Distance to: Milkaner
8.54144601 Romanian_Banat
8.77441736 Romanian_Transylvania
9.05120434 Serb_Herzegovina
9.29138849 Romanian_Crişana
10.11543375 Serb_Vojvodina
10.68679091 Serb_Dalmatia
10.98428423 Serb_Lika
11.12353811 Romanian_Maramureş
11.74059198 Bosniak_Southeast
11.75202961 Italian_Friuli
12.20836598 Serb_CentralCroatia
12.24556654 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
12.32105109 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
12.34972064 Bosniak_Krajina_West
12.57368283 Hungarian_Székely
13.45683469 Croat_Istria
13.71106852 Croat_Dalmatia
13.90486605 Croat_Bosnia
14.10318758 Croat_Herzegovina
14.52287850 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
14.60133213 Croat_Slavonia
14.61269311 Italian_Trentino
14.68672189 Croat_Lika
14.92262711 Croat_Kvarner
15.39692827 Romanian_Ukraine
15.69101972 Bosniak_Krajina_East
16.07665388 Bosniak_Central
16.36540559 Austrian_Tyrol
16.50090907 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
16.54190739 Austrian_Burgenland
16.78524948 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
16.86600723 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
17.07231970 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
17.20599605 Hungarian_Alföld_North
17.34336184 Croat_Central
17.35270008 Hungarian_Alföld_South
17.39310208 Croat_GorskiKotar
18.01917312 Bosniak_Northeast
18.11014357 Austrian_Carinthia
18.66916709 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
18.81067782 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
19.05772809 German_West_Bohemia
19.28195789 Hungarian_North
19.31631694 Austrian_Styria
19.43491189 Slovene
19.43642971 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
19.60704465 Croat_Northwest
19.67665813 Austrian_Lower_Austria
20.71972490 Lemko_Poland
20.73122283 Ukrainian_Carpathians
21.79735764 Slovak
22.07598922 German_North_Moravia
22.12599150 Czech
22.12621296 German_North_Bohemia
22.60149110 Jew_Ashkenazi
23.66115804 Ukrainian_Galicia
26.19248938 Polish_Subcarpathia
27.99159874 Polish_Lesser_Poland

Father:

Target: Milkaner_Dad
Distance: 6.6199% / 6.61989988
98.7 Jew_Ashkenazi
1.3 Romanian_Ukraine

Distance to: Milkaner_Dad
6.63644483 Jew_Ashkenazi
28.24196700 Romanian_Banat
28.65116752 Italian_Friuli
28.90712369 Romanian_Transylvania
29.93340442 Serb_Herzegovina
30.11427734 Romanian_Crişana
30.69178066 Serb_Vojvodina
31.59015986 Italian_Trentino
31.82078095 Serb_Dalmatia
31.90466267 Serb_Lika
32.60710812 Bosniak_Southeast
32.61072676 Romanian_Maramureş
32.96419876 Serb_CentralCroatia
33.00321954 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
33.42155741 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
33.92822424 Bosniak_Krajina_West
34.59061578 Hungarian_Székely
34.88897390 Croat_Herzegovina
35.16223258 Croat_Dalmatia
35.27251054 Croat_Istria
35.38142027 Croat_Bosnia
35.89987047 Croat_Slavonia
36.33208224 Romanian_Ukraine
36.44588591 Croat_Lika
36.56621938 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
36.77171603 Bosniak_Krajina_East
37.00918129 Austrian_Tyrol
37.02602598 Croat_Kvarner
37.34591812 Bosniak_Central
38.67861554 Austrian_Burgenland
39.03541981 Bosniak_Northeast
39.12964349 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
39.24699734 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
39.37069088 Hungarian_Alföld_North
39.37690440 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
39.49333868 Croat_Central
39.63352117 Hungarian_Alföld_South
39.71934919 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
39.96968101 Croat_GorskiKotar
40.70055896 Austrian_Carinthia
40.86812695 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
41.41172781 German_West_Bohemia
41.45107598 Hungarian_North
41.45876023 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
41.49016600 Austrian_Lower_Austria
41.64301862 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
41.80514562 Ukrainian_Carpathians
41.94092274 Slovene
42.03092671 Croat_Northwest
42.06653183 Austrian_Styria
42.18100757 Lemko_Poland
43.97983402 Slovak
44.35997182 German_North_Moravia
44.41141858 Czech
44.92681716 German_North_Bohemia
45.01219390 Ukrainian_Galicia
47.36526259 Polish_Subcarpathia
49.62313170 Polish_Lesser_Poland

Melkiirs
12-22-2023, 05:09 AM
Phew. You get Jew_Ashkenazi too.

some girl made me worry about my results.

Knowing that half Ashkenazi half Northern Euro mixes especially when some of it is Northeastern often cluster closest to Romania/Bulgaria/Serbia with k13 and other Gedmatch calculators your result is not that surprising.

Cybele
12-22-2023, 06:32 AM
Target: Cybele
Distance: 369.2012% / 3.69201200
58.2 Romanian_Banat
24.8 Austrian_Lower_Austria
10.0 Italian_Trentino
7.0 Jew_Ashkenazi


Target: Cybele(Romanian)
Distance: 372.8962% / 3.72896236 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.6 Romanian_Banat
18.2 Italian_Friuli
13.4 Austrian_Lower_Austria
4.8 Italian_Trentino


Distance to: Cybele
6.04228434 Romanian_Banat
6.10128675 Romanian_Transylvania
6.67757441 Romanian_Crişana
7.07243947 Serb_Herzegovina
7.17953341 Serb_Vojvodina
7.65018954 Serb_Dalmatia
7.82407822 Romanian_Maramureş
8.66424838 Hungarian_Székely
8.68092161 Serb_Lika
8.81477169 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
9.54886381 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
9.58057931 Serb_CentralCroatia
9.85599817 Italian_Friuli
10.33682253 Croat_Dalmatia
10.43691525 Bosniak_Southeast
10.67084345 Bosniak_Krajina_West
10.73227376 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
10.84798138 Croat_Istria
11.18727402 Italian_Trentino
11.38862590 Croat_Bosnia
11.50095648 Austrian_Tyrol
11.53844010 Croat_Herzegovina
11.64698673 Croat_Lika
12.14834145 Croat_Slavonia
12.26299311 Bosniak_Krajina_East
13.4 Austrian_Lower_Austria
4.8 Italian_Trentino

Rostos vilmoskörte
12-22-2023, 07:56 AM
Distance to: duke_k13
2.29660619 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.13379961 Croat_Dalmatia
3.34595278 Croat_Herzegovina
3.80034209 Croat_Bosnia
3.84352703 Croat_Lika
3.87862089 Bosniak_Central
4.02171605 Croat_Slavonia
4.30769080 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
4.31256304 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
4.39020501 Bosniak_Northeast
4.49545326 Croat_Istria
4.53039733 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
4.56421954 Serb_CentralCroatia
4.73992616 Romanian_Ukraine
4.92472334 Croat_Kvarner
4.97653494 Bosniak_Krajina_West
5.38887743 Romanian_Maramureş
5.60974153 Bosniak_Southeast
5.76276843 Croat_Central
5.76583038 Serb_Lika
5.93600876 Serb_Dalmatia
6.02018272 Hungarian_Székely
6.02368658 Hungarian_Alföld_North
6.60332492 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
6.60810866 Hungarian_Alföld_South

Target: duke_k13
Distance: 2.1417% / 2.14170262
57.1 Bosniak_Krajina_East
28.8 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
12.4 Lemko_Poland
1.7 Austrian_Lower_Austria

Turska Hrvatska all the way :D

How did you fix the error? i get error aswell.

celticdragongod
12-22-2023, 08:54 AM
Distance to: CDG
10.47844454 German_North_Moravia
12.80506540 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
14.03287569 German_North_Bohemia
14.20869804 German_West_Bohemia
14.77524873 Austrian_Lower_Austria
15.35005537 Austrian_Burgenland
17.62199762 Austrian_Tyrol
18.08177536 Austrian_Styria
19.91347534 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
20.61033721 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
20.82449519 Austrian_Carinthia
20.87370355 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
21.17588015 Slovene
21.31371624 Croat_GorskiKotar
21.46840236 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
21.84068909 Croat_Northwest
22.04982540 Czech
22.09935519 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
22.75034725 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
22.88338043 Hungarian_Alföld_South
22.99296197 Slovak
23.17341149 Hungarian_North
23.63911166 Hungarian_Alföld_North
23.79208482 Croat_Central
24.51975122 Hungarian_Székely

Target: CDG
Distance: 10.4784% / 10.47844454
100.0 German_North_Moravia

Distance to: CDG
12.79601698 92.20% Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria + 7.80% German_North_Bohemia
13.71644736 35.00% Austrian_Lower_Austria + 65.00% German_North_Bohemia
13.83752745 58.00% German_North_Bohemia + 42.00% German_West_Bohemia
13.89662853 15.20% Austrian_Tyrol + 84.80% German_North_Bohemia
13.95196395 19.00% Austrian_Burgenland + 81.00% German_North_Bohemia
14.20318662 8.80% Austrian_Lower_Austria + 91.20% German_West_Bohemia
14.56670405 33.80% Austrian_Burgenland + 66.20% Austrian_Lower_Austria
16.78303993 44.40% Austrian_Styria + 55.60% Austrian_Tyrol
16.85798582 79.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 20.40% Polish_Lesser_Poland
16.95170253 74.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 25.40% Czech
17.18326062 72.00% Austrian_Tyrol + 28.00% Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
17.27491160 81.40% Austrian_Tyrol + 18.60% Slovak
17.32122624 87.00% Austrian_Tyrol + 13.00% Polish_Subcarpathia
17.35316653 79.80% Austrian_Tyrol + 20.20% Slovene
17.39745049 82.40% Austrian_Tyrol + 17.60% Croat_Northwest
17.42180265 18.80% Austrian_Carinthia + 81.20% Austrian_Tyrol
17.51358389 91.20% Austrian_Tyrol + 8.80% Ukrainian_Galicia
17.51593023 88.80% Austrian_Tyrol + 11.20% Hungarian_North
17.51677624 85.00% Austrian_Tyrol + 15.00% Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
17.55240094 88.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 11.40% Croat_GorskiKotar
17.57278008 91.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 8.40% Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
17.58356625 90.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 9.40% Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
17.60170800 93.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 6.40% Hungarian_Slovakia_West
17.61626223 96.80% Austrian_Tyrol + 3.20% Hungarian_Central+Budapest
17.61821518 97.60% Austrian_Tyrol + 2.40% Hungarian_Alföld_South

calxpal
12-22-2023, 09:01 AM
Distance to: cpal
2.82474778 German_North_Moravia
3.31648911 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
4.64657939 German_West_Bohemia
4.75428228 German_North_Bohemia
5.40640361 Austrian_Burgenland
6.86582661 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.14299657 Austrian_Styria
8.51123375 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
8.92567084 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
9.07730687 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
9.43221077 Austrian_Carinthia
9.72735833 Croat_GorskiKotar
9.80936797 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
10.14520084 Slovene
10.15744062 Austrian_Tyrol
10.38559098 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
10.77318430 Croat_Northwest
11.25980018 Hungarian_Alföld_South
11.44354403 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
11.87803856 Czech
11.99329813 Hungarian_Alföld_North
12.04743956 Hungarian_North
12.22025777 Croat_Central
12.62543069 Slovak
12.62645239 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium

Target: cpal
Distance: 173.4096% / 1.73409648
61.6 German_North_Moravia
15.2 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
13.0 Czech
10.2 Austrian_Burgenland

MCMXCV
12-22-2023, 09:28 AM
Distance to: MCMXCV
4.26404737 Croat_Northwest
4.40591648 Slovene
4.48364807 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.53137948 Austrian_Styria
4.54199295 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
4.54410607 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.63256948 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.69047972 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.70700542 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
4.97707746 Hungarian_Alföld_South
4.98358305 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
5.03074547 Austrian_Carinthia
5.23708889 Croat_Central
5.36248077 Hungarian_Alföld_North
5.75730840 Hungarian_North
5.82912515 Slovak
6.64298879 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
6.83617583 Lemko_Poland
6.90506336 Croat_Kvarner
7.27578174 Czech
7.45516599 Croat_Lika
7.79901917 Bosniak_Northeast
8.04129965 Bosniak_Central
8.04585608 Bosniak_Krajina_East
8.12213642 Ukrainian_Carpathians


Distance to: Parent
2.38079819 Austrian_Styria
4.02377932 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.18202104 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.34259139 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.51624844 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.68841124 Austrian_Carinthia
4.89733601 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.94431997 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
5.23015296 Slovene
5.93997475 Croat_Northwest
5.95440173 Hungarian_Alföld_South
6.16171242 German_West_Bohemia
6.31285197 Croat_Central
6.39431779 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
6.51891095 German_North_Bohemia
6.63588728 Hungarian_Alföld_North
6.90262993 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
7.09625958 Croat_Kvarner
7.34684966 Hungarian_North
7.74897896 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.81591325 Croat_Lika
7.89435241 Hungarian_Székely
8.24588989 Croat_Istria
8.25008485 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
8.27657538 Slovak


Distance to: Grandparent 1
2.99424448 Croat_GorskiKotar
3.00389747 Austrian_Styria
3.16780681 Austrian_Carinthia
3.32346205 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
3.46942358 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
3.59893040 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
3.71285604 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.72562746 Slovene
4.24945879 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.46072864 Hungarian_Alföld_South
4.46357480 Croat_Central
4.56487678 Croat_Northwest
5.13036061 Hungarian_Alföld_North
5.26470322 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
5.61021390 Croat_Kvarner
5.70513804 Hungarian_North
5.85683362 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
6.23755561 Croat_Lika
6.76781353 Croat_Istria
6.87789939 Slovak
7.28600027 German_North_Bohemia
7.40173628 Lemko_Poland
7.47871647 Hungarian_Székely
7.49727284 Croat_Dalmatia
7.52642013 Croat_Bosnia


Distance to: Grandparent 2
3.55253431 Slovene
3.73753930 Austrian_Styria
3.78416437 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.38369707 Austrian_Carinthia
4.39072887 Croat_Northwest
4.88280657 German_North_Bohemia
5.13564991 Croat_GorskiKotar
5.36581774 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
5.45559346 Slovak
5.72117121 Czech
5.76164039 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
5.76675819 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
5.82150324 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
5.85714948 Hungarian_North
6.02083881 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
6.03590093 Hungarian_Alföld_South
6.56428976 Croat_Central
6.89828964 Hungarian_Alföld_North
8.31010830 Lemko_Poland
8.49858223 German_West_Bohemia
8.79850555 Croat_Kvarner
8.99609360 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
9.47598544 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.52029937 Croat_Lika
9.73526065 Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria



It appears that my family and I are more Hungarian than Austrian despite hailing from the Cisleithan lands… :D

Demirkazık
12-22-2023, 09:35 AM
you can make K13 Prussia/German Empire calculator with all regional pops that lived in it from here: :p

https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

Which empire contained these populations ?

Target: Demir
Distance: 2.0170% / 2.01697519
86.8 Turkish_South
11.0 Sámi_Sweden
2.2 Irish_Munster

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 11:16 AM
Distance to: Feiichy

3.79814428 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.95637460 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.09092899 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.16726529 Croat_Kvarner
4.21440387 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.30424209 Croat_Central
4.30688983 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.36394317 Hungarian_Alföld_North
4.52662126 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
4.60483442 Hungarian_Alföld_South

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 2.3366% / 2.33663080

62.3 Bosniak_Northeast
17.1 Austrian_Lower_Austria
16.9 German_West_Bohemia
2.9 Lemko_Poland
0.8 Romanian_Banat

with myheritage data, quite a difference

Distance to: Scarface_F

3.77866378 Bosniak_Northeast
3.87820835 Lemko_Poland
4.47152099 Croat_Central
4.83175951 Bosniak_Central
4.83249418 Hungarian_Alföld_North
4.85610955 Bosniak_Krajina_East
5.21082527 Croat_Kvarner
5.38019516 Croat_Lika
5.46032050 Hungarian_Alföld_South
5.50936475 Ukrainian_Carpathians
5.59854445 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
5.66057418 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
5.66179300 Croat_Northwest
5.70778416 Hungarian_North
5.82600206 Croat_GorskiKotar
5.87743992 Romanian_Ukraine
5.88163243 Croat_Slavonia
5.98169708 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
6.03645591 Croat_Bosnia
6.04801620 Croat_Dalmatia
6.22699767 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
6.25494205 Slovene
6.38097955 Croat_Istria
6.42873238 Croat_Herzegovina
6.47407909 Slovak

Target: Scarface_F
Distance: 2.5239% / 2.52394058

46.3 Bosniak_Northeast
41.4 Lemko_Poland
10.9 Austrian_Lower_Austria
1.4 Serb_BosanskaKrajina

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 11:16 AM
Which empire contained these populations ?

Target: Demir
Distance: 2.0170% / 2.01697519
86.8 Turkish_South
11.0 Sámi_Sweden
2.2 Irish_Munster

none to my knowledge. You're a unicorn :)

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 11:18 AM
It appears that my family and I are more Hungarian than Austrian despite hailing from the Cisleithan lands… :D

These averages are all very similar, but Hungarians are bit more German and bit more south Euro comapred to Slovenes iirc.

MCMXCV
12-22-2023, 11:32 AM
with myheritage data, quite a difference

Would you say these values are more accurate? Which company is the source in the first post?

MCMXCV
12-22-2023, 11:49 AM
These averages are all very similar, but Hungarians are bit more German and bit more south Euro comapred to Slovenes iirc.

Distance to: Slovene
1.73591474 Croat_Northwest
1.75011428 Austrian_Carinthia
2.30091286 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
2.46633331 Croat_GorskiKotar
2.70501386 Hungarian_North
2.80135681 Hungarian_Alföld_South
3.14845994 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.15765736 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
3.22347638 Croat_Central
3.27146756 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
3.32911400 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
3.61664209 Hungarian_Alföld_North
3.66346830 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
3.71052557 Slovak
3.94120540 Austrian_Styria
4.62319154 Czech
5.56997307 Lemko_Poland
5.59649891 Croat_Kvarner
6.15187776 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
6.39104060 Croat_Lika
6.93082968 Ukrainian_Carpathians
7.19344146 Bosniak_Central
7.25472949 German_North_Bohemia
7.28862127 Croat_Istria
7.51222337 Croat_Slavonia

Surprisingly — yet expectedly — there isn’t an obvious deviation from our familial results I posted earlier.

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 11:54 AM
Would you say these values are more accurate? Which company is the source in the first post?

In the first post is AncestryDNA data that has more snps and should be more accurate. However I always get worse fits with it.

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 12:00 PM
Distance to: Slovene
1.73591474 Croat_Northwest
1.75011428 Austrian_Carinthia
2.30091286 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
2.46633331 Croat_GorskiKotar
2.70501386 Hungarian_North
2.80135681 Hungarian_Alföld_South
3.14845994 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.15765736 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
3.22347638 Croat_Central
3.27146756 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
3.32911400 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
3.61664209 Hungarian_Alföld_North
3.66346830 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
3.71052557 Slovak
3.94120540 Austrian_Styria
4.62319154 Czech
5.56997307 Lemko_Poland
5.59649891 Croat_Kvarner
6.15187776 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
6.39104060 Croat_Lika
6.93082968 Ukrainian_Carpathians
7.19344146 Bosniak_Central
7.25472949 German_North_Bohemia
7.28862127 Croat_Istria
7.51222337 Croat_Slavonia

Surprisingly — yet expectedly — there isn’t an obvious deviation from our familial results I posted earlier.

Yes.

Btw - interesting anegdote from my weekend trip to Italy.

I went with native Kajkavian speaking friend from western Prigorje and he told me he couldn't understand standard Slovene that well. Our group went with group of Slovenes. He wasn't exposed to it and he said he understands 30% without context and 70% with context.

Ofc that both Kajkavian and Slovene dialects have big variation among themselves. Some Zagorje dialects are hard to fully understand for him as well.

What is also funny is that Gorski Kotar is Kajkavian enclave linguistically cut off from main Kajkavian regions in NW/central Croatia and it has peculiar history. Some Croatian linguists classify Gorski Kotar "Kajkavian" as actual Slovene dialect rather than Kajkavian. People in that region were ckahakavian speaking Croats before the Turks and they escaped to lower Carniola, only to come back later when things calmed down. They likely mixed with Slovenes and Kočevje Germans there.

It's interesting that my mother deceased partner was Gorski Kotar Croat from such "Kajkavian" speaking rural village and funny he clusters like a Slovene and not like NW Croat on north Euro G25 PCA (Kajkavians are generally bit more northeastern).

Do you have G25?

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 01:17 PM
Friends and family:

Mother (1/2 Dalmatia + 1/2 Vojvodina) - 1/2 German/Serb/Greek/Hungarian

3.45156486 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
3.98751803 Croat_Kvarner
4.02269810 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
4.13280776 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.36079121 Croat_Lika

Father (1/2 Dalmatia + 1/4 Banovina + 1/4 Bosnia) - 1/4 Bosniak

2.38637801 Croat_Kvarner
2.48772989 Croat_Lika
2.56713848 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
2.72822286 Croat_Istria
3.36197858 Croat_Bosnia

Friend (Primorje) - 1/8 Austrian

2.92357658 Croat_GorskiKotar
3.28715683 Austrian_Carinthia
3.39655708 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
3.48188168 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.65454512 Croat_Northwest

Friend (Prigorje)

4.05056786 Czech
5.25706192 Hungarian_North
5.30399849 Croat_Northwest
5.34537183 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
5.43575202 Slovak

Friend (Dalmatia + Moslavina)

3.16107577 Croat_Slavonia
3.75030665 Croat_Herzegovina
4.08715060 Croat_Bosnia
4.23104006 Croat_Lika
4.23886777 Bosniak_Krajina_East

Mother of a friend (Moslavina)

2.90336012 Slovak
3.30428510 Slovene
3.44413995 Croat_Northwest
3.79689347 Hungarian_North
4.39092245 Czech

Mother's partner (Gorski kotar)

2.99223996 Hungarian_North
3.42417873 Croat_Central
3.50091417 Hungarian_Alföld_South
3.57032211 Croat_Northwest
3.66036883 Hungarian_Alföld_North

Friend (Slavonia) - 1/4 Czech

2.30831107 Ukrainian_Galicia
3.73862274 Ukrainian_Carpathians
4.21208974 Lemko_Poland
4.69580664 Polish_Subcarpathia
5.20370061 Slovak

Friend (Dalmatia)

3.08912609 Croat_Istria
3.47103731 Croat_Lika
3.53254866 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
3.78992084 Croat_Dalmatia
4.07916658 Croat_Bosnia

Friend (Dalmatia)

2.57233357 Bosniak_Northeast
2.87186351 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.73230492 Bosniak_Central
4.03977722 Croat_Herzegovina
4.33611577 Romanian_Ukraine

Friend (Dalmatia)

3.07977272 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.58905280 Bosniak_Northeast
4.07336470 Bosniak_Central
4.26041078 Croat_Dalmatia
4.29264487 Croat_Herzegovina

Friend (Zagreb) - 1/2 Slovene, 1/8 Czech

4.39534982 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.50597381 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.58935725 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.66639047 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
4.84530701 Hungarian_Slovakia_West

Friend (Primorje)

3.78827137 Croat_Kvarner
3.88090196 Bosniak_Central
4.09588818 Croat_Slavonia
4.11959950 Croat_Bosnia
4.15020481 Croat_Lika

PaulieVanZant
12-22-2023, 01:31 PM
Target: Stahl
Distance: 3.5648% / 3.56475344
85.7 German_North_Moravia
14.3 Polish_Lesser_Poland

Vessna
12-22-2023, 02:08 PM
I think formatting of the source is not working for me

gives me this error, and cant run it

WARNING! Number of white-space characters removed in TABSOURCE data: 1. WARNING! Number of empty lines removed in TABSOURCE data: 2. ERROR! Column number mismatch.

I get the same error

MCMXCV
12-22-2023, 03:00 PM
What is also funny is that Gorski Kotar is Kajkavian enclave linguistically cut off from main Kajkavian regions in NW/central Croatia and it has peculiar history. Some Croatian linguists classify Gorski Kotar "Kajkavian" as actual Slovene dialect rather than Kajkavian. People in that region were ckahakavian speaking Croats before the Turks and they escaped to lower Carniola, only to come back later when things calmed down. They likely mixed with Slovenes and Kočevje Germans there.

I’m not so extremely familiar with that area, but I know the Čabar District used to be a possession of the counts of Cilli/Celje (like Zagorje and Međimurje) and part of Carniola for some time; therefore, I suspected this could contribute to the reason why Kajkavian is spoken there.

https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-030-14066-3_9/MediaObjects/431603_1_En_9_Fig3_HTML.png

I wasn’t aware of the Čakavian speakers returning to their region, speaking in this new mixed way. I have a PDF about the linguistic border between Slovene and Kajkavian that needs reading, as I find it an extremely interesting topic. While you mentioned that some Croatian linguists classify Gorski Kotar speech actually being a variety of Slovene, Slovene dialects (https://narecja.si) of White Carniola (Bela krajina) and those by the Kolpa/Kupa river (orange with grey stripes) are often considered half Croatian. When one considers there used to be Gottscheers between those Slovenes and the rest to the north, while a continuum with Croats could have appeared to the south(east), it could also be a possibility.

What is your native variety of Croatian?


Do you have G25?

I don’t (I’ve only been using simulated G25, which I know isn’t accurate), but I was contemplating getting it if could provide anything of value.

Abriekman
12-22-2023, 03:34 PM
Target: Abriekman
Distance: 559.4985% / 5.59498474
51.6 Polish_Subcarpathia
48.4 Bosniak_Northeast


Target: Abriekman_dad
Distance: 528.7193% / 5.28719264
56.0 Polish_Subcarpathia
25.8 Bosniak_Northeast
18.2 Ukrainian_Galicia

Dušan
12-22-2023, 04:11 PM
Create this in G25 version

Luke35
12-22-2023, 04:39 PM
I was able to update the theoretical K13 for my father because my sister is tested now too. I assumed both of us as exact midpoints between our parents (my mother is tested, father is not), I projected the Hungarian side for each of us. Finally, I averaged those two projections. Of course it's not perfect but it's probably somewhat more accurate than before:

Mr.G_father(theoretical),29.49,32.19,14.73,6.33,9. 75,3.64,1.97,0,1.02,1.15,0.67,0,0

Target: Mr.G_father(theoretical)
Distance: 2.6449% / 2.64490622
50.9 Ukrainian_Galicia
20.5 Italian_Friuli
18.3 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.5 Austrian_Lower_Austria
4.5 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
1.3 Jew_Ashkenazi

Distance to: Mr.G_father(theoretical)
3.26183997 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
3.27395785 Hungarian_Alföld_South
3.32433452 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.59809672 Hungarian_Alföld_North
3.71852121 Croat_Central
3.72169316 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
3.76977453 Croat_GorskiKotar
3.81035431 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
3.93582266 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.09492369 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
4.25788680 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
4.48129446 Croat_Northwest
4.54070479 Slovene
4.58777724 Austrian_Carinthia
4.69572146 Croat_Kvarner
4.91624857 Hungarian_North
5.02559449 Croat_Lika
5.72155573 Bosniak_Central
5.88326440 Croat_Istria
6.01977574 Bosniak_Krajina_East
6.02945271 Croat_Bosnia
6.11289620 Hungarian_Székely
6.16174488 Austrian_Styria
6.21528760 Croat_Dalmatia
6.34316167 Croat_Slavonia

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 04:59 PM
I’m not so extremely familiar with that area, but I know the Čabar District used to be a possession of the counts of Cilli/Celje (like Zagorje and Međimurje) and part of Carniola for some time; therefore, I suspected this could contribute to the reason why Kajkavian is spoken there.

https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-030-14066-3_9/MediaObjects/431603_1_En_9_Fig3_HTML.png

I wasn’t aware of the Čakavian speakers returning to their region, speaking in this new mixed

way. I have a PDF about the linguistic border between Slovene and Kajkavian that needs reading, as I find it an extremely interesting topic. While you mentioned that some Croatian linguists classify Gorski Kotar speech actually being a variety of Slovene, Slovene dialects (https://narecja.si) of White Carniola (Bela krajina) and those by the Kolpa/Kupa river (orange with grey stripes) are often considered half Croatian. When one considers there used to be Gottscheers between those Slovenes and the rest to the north, while a continuum with Croats could have appeared to the south(east), it could also be a possibility.

Very very nice maps, thank you for sharing.

Here I some info I dug out:
The most important period for the development of this area is certainly the reign of Frankopan and Zrinski, who populated Gorski Kotar with the Čakavian population from their Vinodol and coastal estates. In the 17th and 18th centuries, this area was partially inhabited by people from Slovenia and other countries of Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, but the descendants of former refugees from the Turks, who fled to neighboring Slovenia during the onslaught of the Turkish army, began to return to the Kupska dolina - as far as Delnice. The newcomers brought their own Slovene Kajkavian language and mixed with the small number of Chakavian and Kajkavian natives.

The Goranian or Gorskokotar Kajkavian language was created as a result of various dialectal interactions, in which dialects of the Slovenian language play an important role (Barac-Grum, Finka 1981: 424). Stronger touches with Slovenian idioms begin to be felt in the 16th century.
The area began to develop when Petar Zrinski found deposits of iron ore in this area. This is how the immigration of the population begins, and the iron mines and smelters in Čabar greatly influence the composition of the population. However, since the most numerous Slovenian newcomers came exclusively as miners and artisans, it is unlikely that they occupied all of today's Kajkavian part of Gorski Kotar and completely imposed their language on the Štokavians and Chakavians. It is likely that the Kajkavian languages ​​in Gorski kotar were formed in coexistence with the Slovenian Kajkavian language, although they cannot be identified with any form of the Slovenian Kajkavian language (Barac-Grum, Finka 1981: 426). It is only noticeable that some are spoken more and others are less different from the Slovenian Kajkavian speech. Thus, we find the most Slovenian elements in Ravna Gora, whose speech is considered by Rudolf Strohal and Nikola Majnarić to be a dialect of the Slovenian language and called Rovtar.


What is your native variety of Croatian?

South Čakavian :) but unfortunately I don't speak it well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Chakavian


I don’t (I’ve only been using simulated G25, which I know isn’t accurate), but I was contemplating getting it if could provide anything of value.

It certainly could, especially for ancient tribal modeling (Slavic-Balkan-German etc). However much depends on raw data quality you have. 23andme V5 has it relatively modest and AncestryDNA is only mainstream test on the market that still offers excellent raw data quality.

If you ever decide to get G25 let us know, because we would really need more ethnic Slovene results (only collected 4 full Slovenes so far)

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 05:01 PM
Create this in G25 version

Would love to but it is hard because much less people possess G25 since it isn't for free. Davidski academic averages aren't the best. Will see what can be done with current G25 collection.

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 05:09 PM
Some more info about Gorski kotar Kajkavian:


Ivić claims that the Goran languages ​​"belong to the Kajkavian language world in the broader sense of the word, which also includes the Slovenian language". He further writes: »Their closest relatives are Slovenian speeches immediately north of the republic border. However, they have only indirect connections with the languages ​​of the Croatian Kajkavian dialect group, mainly via Slovenian language. On the other hand, these languages ​​are undoubtedly Serbo-Croatian insofar as they are spoken by Croats". But there are other opinions. Strohal, for example, considered the Goranian speeches, in fact a large part of the Kajkavian speeches, to be the original Chakavian speeches. Lisac clearly showed that this theory cannot be correct (1995). Another theory is that the Goranian languages ​​are originally Slovenian. This theory was encouraged by Ramovš and Majnarić. Majnarić himself was there from Ravna Gora in Gorski Kotar, but the speech of the greater part of Ravna Gora is much more Slovene than some other Goranian languages. Majnarić's opinion we often find it in literature today. Kapović, for example, writes that the Goran dialects are "genetically actually [Slovene] dialects", and Malnar also points to the similarities of the Čabar dialect with various Slovenian dialects . Finally, Finka and Barac-Grum believe that Goranian languages ​​are real mixed languages ​​with Kaikavian, Chakavian and Slovenian elements, which can be seen as a "separate type of Croatian Kajkavian"

When we talk about the linguistic history of the Goran dialect, we have to take in account speech on the Slovenian side of the border, north and northeast of Gorski Kotar.The speech of Babno Polje and Kostel is very similar to the neighboring Goranian languages, but also the languages ​​of eastern and southern Bela Krajina are structurally quite close to Goran. Ramovš believes that Belokrajian languages ​​are mixed languages ​​and writes the following: "The Slavic population of Belokrajina came to that Obkolp area from the southern, today's Croatian side." In addition, he believes that Belokrajina languages ​​are of the same origin as Goran. The same migration occurred in Bela Krajina as in Gorsko Kotar during the Ottoman raids in the 16th century. Ramovš concludes that White Carniolan languages ​​developed »in the coexistence of rare natives with Serbo-Croatian languages refugees and Slovenian immigrants from the recent era"

Because of migrations in the 15th and following centuries, the people of Chakavian, Slovenes and Štokavian moved to Gorski Kotar, but in the villages where "Goranski" is spoken today, it is obvious there were still so many original inhabitants that the settlers generally assimilated more with the natives than the other way around. This does not mean that there was no strong influence on the original Goran, but the base was almost always "Goran". In addition to the migrations of Čakavacs and Štokavacs from the south, the dialect map was changed by several later migrations. Delnice speech was originally spoken more in the west, which explains the similarities with the Gerovo speech and the fact that we find several isoglosses between the Delnice and Turanian languages, even though these languages ​​are otherwise very similar. Migrations of Slovenian speakers of the Rovtar variety ​​affected the language situation in Ravna Gora and around Čabar. Today's speech of the greater part of Ravna Gora is of Slovenian origin. He was strongly influenced by the surrounding Croatian languages. Around Čabar, we find the opposite situation: a strong Slovenian (Rovtar) influence on Goranski base.

Benyzero
12-22-2023, 05:19 PM
Friends and family:

Mother (1/2 Dalmatia + 1/2 Vojvodina) - 1/2 German/Serb/Greek/Hungarian

3.45156486 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
3.98751803 Croat_Kvarner
4.02269810 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
4.13280776 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
4.36079121 Croat_Lika

Father (1/2 Dalmatia + 1/4 Banovina + 1/4 Bosnia) - 1/4 Bosniak

2.38637801 Croat_Kvarner
2.48772989 Croat_Lika
2.56713848 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
2.72822286 Croat_Istria
3.36197858 Croat_Bosnia

Friend (Primorje) - 1/8 Austrian

2.92357658 Croat_GorskiKotar
3.28715683 Austrian_Carinthia
3.39655708 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
3.48188168 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
3.65454512 Croat_Northwest

Friend (Prigorje)

4.05056786 Czech
5.25706192 Hungarian_North
5.30399849 Croat_Northwest
5.34537183 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
5.43575202 Slovak

Friend (Dalmatia + Moslavina)

3.16107577 Croat_Slavonia
3.75030665 Croat_Herzegovina
4.08715060 Croat_Bosnia
4.23104006 Croat_Lika
4.23886777 Bosniak_Krajina_East

Mother of a friend (Moslavina)

2.90336012 Slovak
3.30428510 Slovene
3.44413995 Croat_Northwest
3.79689347 Hungarian_North
4.39092245 Czech

Mother's partner (Gorski kotar)

2.99223996 Hungarian_North
3.42417873 Croat_Central
3.50091417 Hungarian_Alföld_South
3.57032211 Croat_Northwest
3.66036883 Hungarian_Alföld_North

Friend (Slavonia) - 1/4 Czech

2.30831107 Ukrainian_Galicia
3.73862274 Ukrainian_Carpathians
4.21208974 Lemko_Poland
4.69580664 Polish_Subcarpathia
5.20370061 Slovak

Friend (Dalmatia)

3.08912609 Croat_Istria
3.47103731 Croat_Lika
3.53254866 Hungarian_Transylvania+Partium
3.78992084 Croat_Dalmatia
4.07916658 Croat_Bosnia

Friend (Dalmatia)

2.57233357 Bosniak_Northeast
2.87186351 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.73230492 Bosniak_Central
4.03977722 Croat_Herzegovina
4.33611577 Romanian_Ukraine

Friend (Dalmatia)

3.07977272 Bosniak_Krajina_East
3.58905280 Bosniak_Northeast
4.07336470 Bosniak_Central
4.26041078 Croat_Dalmatia
4.29264487 Croat_Herzegovina

Friend (Zagreb) - 1/2 Slovene, 1/8 Czech

4.39534982 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
4.50597381 Croat_GorskiKotar
4.58935725 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
4.66639047 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
4.84530701 Hungarian_Slovakia_West

Friend (Primorje)

3.78827137 Croat_Kvarner
3.88090196 Bosniak_Central
4.09588818 Croat_Slavonia
4.11959950 Croat_Bosnia
4.15020481 Croat_Lika

whole fam is scanned mandatory lol

Benyzero
12-22-2023, 05:20 PM
Would love to but it is hard because much less people possess G25 since it isn't for free. Davidski academic averages aren't the best. Will see what can be done with current G25 collection.

Can I still purchase that?

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 05:26 PM
Can I still purchase that?

Yup. I advise to upload raw data to Illustrative DNA, you will get real coords from Davidski and some really nice modeling that actually makes sense like in my signature. It is not that expensive compared to price of standalone coords (which I am not sure he sells atm, check his eurogenes blog)

Feiichy
12-22-2023, 05:32 PM
I get the same error

Are you using Eurogenes K13 results in correct form? It should look like this:


Feiichy,29.98,32.51,15.6,10.47,10.02,0,0,0.36,1.07 ,0,0,0,0

You can copy your K13 (unsorted) results here to get it in such form:
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/convert-vahaduo.aspx

Just don't change order of components, first goes North Atlantic, than Baltic etc

should work :)

Vessna
12-22-2023, 05:57 PM
Are you using Eurogenes K13 results in correct form? It should look like this:


Feiichy,29.98,32.51,15.6,10.47,10.02,0,0,0.36,1.07 ,0,0,0,0

You can copy your K13 (unsorted) results here to get it in such form:
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/convert-vahaduo.aspx

Just don't change order of components, first goes North Atlantic, than Baltic etc

should work :)

yeap, it worked :) thanks!

Vessna
12-22-2023, 05:57 PM
Distance to: Vessna
8.28535455 Polish_Lesser_Poland
8.80257917 Polish_Subcarpathia
12.09377939 Ukrainian_Galicia
14.03382343 Czech
14.47762066 Ukrainian_Carpathians
14.52040289 Slovak
15.40979883 Lemko_Poland
16.27207424 Hungarian_North
17.13709135 Croat_Northwest
17.94296798 Slovene
17.97942991 Bosniak_Northeast
18.03709234 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
18.39857060 Hungarian_Alföld_North
18.61278324 Croat_Central
18.80091221 Hungarian_Alföld_South
18.96325130 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
18.99172451 Austrian_Carinthia
19.56365763 Bosniak_Central
19.62509363 Croat_GorskiKotar
19.82703457 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
20.20587786 Romanian_Ukraine
20.38844526 Croat_Kvarner
20.40676358 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
20.41843040 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
20.73185954 Bosniak_Krajina_East


Target: Vessna
Distance: 8.2815% / 8.28153151
92.2 Polish_Lesser_Poland
7.8 Polish_Subcarpathia

MCMXCV
12-22-2023, 07:09 PM
It certainly could, especially for ancient tribal modeling (Slavic-Balkan-German etc). However much depends on raw data quality you have. 23andme V5 has it relatively modest and AncestryDNA is only mainstream test on the market that still offers excellent raw data quality.

If you ever decide to get G25 let us know, because we would really need more ethnic Slovene results (only collected 4 full Slovenes so far)

Yes, I have 23andMe’s V5. And I surely will.


Yup. I advise to upload raw data to Illustrative DNA, you will get real coords from Davidski and some really nice modeling that actually makes sense like in my signature. It is not that expensive compared to price of standalone coords (which I am not sure he sells atm, check his eurogenes blog)

I was just going to ask where’s it better to get G25 and was reading (https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/12h1fkv/comment/jfphj4t) about it. Illustrative DNA seems to be €27 now, while Davidski himself charges $12 from what I’ve seen (https://bga101.blogspot.com/2021/08/genetic-ancestry-online-store.html) on his blog. Or does store being closed mean he doesn’t accept new orders anymore? I’m afraid it refers to this.

Additionally, if I decide to do it, it’s probably best to use my DNA? I’m most likely not going to get them for all family members — at least not immediately.

Feiichy
12-25-2023, 08:20 PM
I was just going to ask where’s it better to get G25 and was reading (https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/12h1fkv/comment/jfphj4t) about it. Illustrative DNA seems to be €27 now, while Davidski himself charges $12 from what I’ve seen (https://bga101.blogspot.com/2021/08/genetic-ancestry-online-store.html) on his blog. Or does store being closed mean he doesn’t accept new orders anymore? I’m afraid it refers to this.

Additionally, if I decide to do it, it’s probably best to use my DNA? I’m most likely not going to get them for all family members — at least not immediately.

Your DNA would be the best in such case. And I'm afraid Davidski indeed doesn't take new orders except indirectly via Illustrative DNA, but you can always take a risk and try a trick - pay in advance and that contaxt him thus you don't leave him much choice not to give them. Worked for me once.

Would reccomend IllustrativeDNA though.

Fistora
01-25-2025, 01:00 PM
Target: Oskar
Distance: 421.4864% / 4.21486434
72.4 Polish_Lesser_Poland
20.0 Austrian_Lower_Austria
7.6 Lemko_Poland

Distance to: Oskar
5.32861145 Slovak
6.21794178 Czech
6.29147836 Ukrainian_Galicia
6.29678489 Polish_Lesser_Poland
7.11648790 Polish_Subcarpathia
7.24781346 Hungarian_North
7.33399618 Slovene
7.35287019 Croat_Northwest
7.41791750 Lemko_Poland
8.03651044 Hungarian_Slovakia_Central+East
8.14880973 Ukrainian_Carpathians
8.53058615 Hungarian_Vojvodina+Banat
8.96124433 Hungarian_Alföld_South
9.00372145 Austrian_Carinthia
9.17881801 Croat_Central
9.32597448 Hungarian_Alföld_North
9.52106612 Croat_GorskiKotar
9.82242842 Hungarian_Central+Budapest
9.84020325 Austrian_Styria
9.86788224 Hungarian_Slovakia_West
10.10116825 Hungarian_Transdanubia_Central+West
10.56510767 Hungarian_Transdanubia_South
11.01601561 German_North_Bohemia
11.03540212 Bosniak_Northeast
11.58146364 Bosniak_Central