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happycow
06-15-2023, 09:38 PM
According to big Y I am G-BY205667 wtf is this haplogroup lol?

There is hardly any info on this haplo on FTDNA I learn nothing :(

Beowulf
06-15-2023, 09:42 PM
I hope this helps a bit more:



https://i.postimg.cc/dtRYrq6K/descarga-8.png (https://postimages.org/)

happycow
06-15-2023, 09:48 PM
I hope this helps a bit more:



https://i.postimg.cc/dtRYrq6K/descarga-8.png (https://postimages.org/)

A little bit. Germany? :confused:

Beowulf
06-15-2023, 09:51 PM
A little bit. Germany? :confused:

More likely Czech iron age (?) could may be celtic?

happycow
06-15-2023, 09:57 PM
More likely Czech iron age (?) could may be celtic?

I see. how would i end up with such haplogroup? :confused:

Beowulf
06-15-2023, 09:59 PM
I see. how would i end up with such haplogroup? :confused:

Idk you know people in old times moved a lot if it's celtic who knows, Galatian? i don't have any idea :noidea:

happycow
06-15-2023, 10:04 PM
Idk you know people in old times moved a lot if it's celtic who knows, Galatian? i don't have any idea :noidea:

ok thx

Slavic Italian
06-15-2023, 10:13 PM
ok thx

These are your SNP contributions. You are on the Czech-German border.

happycow
06-15-2023, 10:39 PM
These are your SNP contributions. You are on the Czech-German border.

Wow fascinating!!! :) :)

happycow
06-16-2023, 01:17 AM
bump :)

happycow
06-16-2023, 10:25 PM
bump. anyone else have info?

happycow
06-19-2023, 05:34 AM
bump. so this y dna had to have come from crusades or something. That might explain my German looking uncle. :cool:

Duke
06-19-2023, 06:16 AM
Haplogroups G are most prevalent in Caucasus, and they spread from there.
If you are from Azerbaijan, you are probably native Caucasian

happycow
06-19-2023, 06:21 AM
Haplogroups G are most prevalent in Caucasus, and they spread from there.
If you are from Azerbaijan, you are probably native Caucasian

I am Palestinian. According to this map this is where my my haplogroup comes from, this is the only information I have as FTDNA literally provides nothing about it is origins.

https://i.imgur.com/ZFKcSzk.jpg

happycow
09-19-2023, 01:02 AM
I am Palestinian. According to this map this is where my my haplogroup comes from, this is the only information I have as FTDNA literally provides nothing about it is origins.

https://i.imgur.com/ZFKcSzk.jpg

I joined a G YDNA group on telegram and was told this map is highly inaccurate, and a Roman soldier is likely the contributor to my haplo. On FTDNA there are only 2 others with my haplogroup, one being from PAlestine, a second cousin of mine, while the other is of unkown origins.

Sucsk I have this boring haplo with literally no information on it. :( I was given some information in the telegram group, but can I trust these randoms regarding this infomration????

happycow
09-23-2023, 12:34 AM
pls some1 help

Demirkazık
09-23-2023, 12:47 AM
Probably a Celtic individual that went to Anatolia and became Romanized, could be a Galatian/Gaul marker etc. about how did it arrive in Palestine, I can only guess. But hey you are from the Dzudzuana cluster!

happycow
09-23-2023, 01:34 AM
Probably a Celtic individual that went to Anatolia and became Romanized, could be a Galatian/Gaul marker etc. about how did it arrive in Palestine, I can only guess. But hey you are from the Dzudzuana cluster!

lol thx. what is the dzudzuana cluster?

true_southron
09-23-2023, 01:38 AM
Congratz, you're unique. Be happy!

happycow
09-23-2023, 01:51 AM
Congratz, you're unique. Be happy!

well 23me and yseq gives me G-Z6032 which is not super unique, it s found from Sardinians, Italians and some English. but now i do ftdna big y and they give me this weird haplogroup with lacking information.

i would much rather have haplo that i understand its origins,p i guess i have to wait for more pppl to test or something.

Demirkazık
09-23-2023, 02:05 AM
lol thx. what is the dzudzuana cluster?

The cluster that formed Anatolian Farmers, Caucasian Hunter Gatherers and Iran Neolithic Farmers.

true_southron
09-23-2023, 02:28 AM
well 23me and yseq gives me G-Z6032 which is not super unique, it s found from Sardinians, Italians and some English. but now i do ftdna big y and they give me this weird haplogroup with lacking information.

i would much rather have haplo that i understand its origins,p i guess i have to wait for more pppl to test or something.

I am not an expert but from what I know Anatolian farmers had plenty of G2a.

happycow
09-23-2023, 02:47 AM
The cluster that formed Anatolian Farmers, Caucasian Hunter Gatherers and Iran Neolithic Farmers.

oh ok thank you

happycow
09-23-2023, 02:48 AM
I am not an expert but from what I know Anatolian farmers had plenty of G2a.

Yes indeed.

happycow
12-05-2023, 03:16 AM
I share the bam file from FTDNA to yfull.

Kirgonix
12-28-2023, 12:12 PM
I share the bam file from FTDNA to yfull.

What are the advantages of putting it on yfull?

Nurzat
12-28-2023, 12:28 PM
I share the bam file from FTDNA to yfull.

let us know when they add you.

btw how much does a big y cost now? it used to cost a lot. Y-700 at about 400$ on their site I think.

I wonder how far on the yfull list the Y-111 gets you, do you know? compared to Y-67 and to Y-700.

tk'es
12-28-2023, 02:47 PM
According to big Y I am G-BY205667 wtf is this haplogroup lol?

There is hardly any info on this haplo on FTDNA I learn nothing :(





G-BY205667

https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/G-FGC294/









let us know when they add you.

btw how much does a big y cost now? it used to cost a lot.





i've ordered it for $319 two days ago (saved $130), however they show their current price $399 https://www.familytreedna.com/products/y-dna

Nurzat
12-28-2023, 02:50 PM
G-BY205667

https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/G-FGC294/

i've ordered it for $319 two days ago (saved $130), however they show their current price $399 https://www.familytreedna.com/products/y-dna

they've added him! noice, thanks for sharing. so, other than himself, it's northern Caucasus and Sardinia.

do you know where Y-111 gets you, how deep, on yfull, compared to Y-67 and to Y-700?

tk'es
12-28-2023, 03:05 PM
they've added him! noice, thanks for sharing. so, other than himself, it's northern Caucasus and Sardinia.

do you know where Y-111 gets you, how deep, on yfull, compared to Y-67 and to Y-700?




if i were you i'd firstly start with y-37, and then y-700 (jumping over y-111).

i've done it in this order: y-37(a month ago), then family finder, and recently big y-700.. also i didn't know how gedmatch actually functioning, now i've learned something new(reading certain useful shared info from other experienced users and listening to some youtube content, as well) in there, and still continue acquiring a wide range of knowledge

Nurzat
12-29-2023, 04:45 AM
if i were you i'd firstly start with y-37, and then y-700 (jumping over y-111).

i've done it in this order: y-37(a month ago), then family finder, and recently big y-700.. also i didn't know how gedmatch actually functioning, now i've learned something new(reading certain useful shared info from other experienced users and listening to some youtube content, as well) in there, and still continue acquiring a wide range of knowledge

bro we descend from the same J2a thug :cool: I am J2a1b3 (J-Z467) but would love to narrow it down.

both YSEQ and Morley give me these branches in red so all I know is I am not under these: J-L210, J-Y144556. I am also probably not under J-FGC43538 (time to most recent common ancestor 950 to 200 ybp in Ireland/Scotland, too recent too far).

with L-210 I was really convinced I was under this because it has a hotspot on yfull just next to my area, in the region my dad comes from, but it seems it cannot be, since both YSEQ and Morley put it in red (it was a Ukrainian/Russian/Belarusian/Polish Ashkenazi line). my dad is a Carpathian Ukrainian unmixed as far as we know (I won't count some Polish as mixing since all Ukrainian villages in the area had a few Poles at some point and there is also a Polish cluster of villages nearby, they're locals, plus some Ukrainians in the region for some reason considered themselves of Polish origin or see it as more prestigious, so self-reported Polish ancestry in the region needs to be carefully considered; then, the area was inhabited by Germans for a century and a half until WW1/interwar period; and a few Jews that had business in the villages in the region, a tiny minority; so that was all in the area in the last centuries: Ruthenians (Ukrainians), some Germans, a few Jews, maybe some Poles if not just Ukrainians) and he also clusters normally with the Ukrainians in Zakarpattia/Ivano-Frankivsk/Chernivtsi regions. would a Y-37 narrow it down more? how much more in terms of levels below J-Z467?

Abti
12-29-2023, 04:54 AM
if i were you i'd firstly start with y-37, and then y-700 (jumping over y-111).

i've done it in this order: y-37(a month ago), then family finder, and recently big y-700.. also i didn't know how gedmatch actually functioning, now i've learned something new(reading certain useful shared info from other experienced users and listening to some youtube content, as well) in there, and still continue acquiring a wide range of knowledge

What’s your Y700 result?

tk'es
12-29-2023, 04:35 PM
bro we descend from the same J2a thug :cool: I am J2a1b3 (J-Z467) but would love to narrow it down.

both YSEQ and Morley give me these branches in red so all I know is I am not under these: J-L210, J-Y144556. I am also probably not under J-FGC43538 (time to most recent common ancestor 950 to 200 ybp in Ireland/Scotland, too recent too far).

with L-210 I was really convinced I was under this because it has a hotspot on yfull just next to my area, in the region my dad comes from, but it seems it cannot be, since both YSEQ and Morley put it in red (it was a Ukrainian/Russian/Belarusian/Polish Ashkenazi line). my dad is a Carpathian Ukrainian unmixed as far as we know (I won't count some Polish as mixing since all Ukrainian villages in the area had a few Poles at some point and there is also a Polish cluster of villages nearby, they're locals, plus some Ukrainians in the region for some reason considered themselves of Polish origin or see it as more prestigious, so self-reported Polish ancestry in the region needs to be carefully considered; then, the area was inhabited by Germans for a century and a half until WW1/interwar period; and a few Jews that had business in the villages in the region, a tiny minority; so that was all in the area in the last centuries: Ruthenians (Ukrainians), some Germans, a few Jews, maybe some Poles if not just Ukrainians) and he also clusters normally with the Ukrainians in Zakarpattia/Ivano-Frankivsk/Chernivtsi regions. would a Y-37 narrow it down more? how much more in terms of levels below J-Z467?







indeed, we are actually one J2a family and you're my genetically bro, but geographically we live far away in various corners of the earth, and we have been influenced by other languages and cultures for centuries.. truly our j2 grand master ancestors discovered and explored new places, built magnificent civilizations, invented a lot of things and many others

your ancestors' migration should look like this: near east > transcaucasus > north caucasus > pontic steppes > carphatian area, or like this version: near east > transcaucasus > anatolia > ancient greece > eastern balkans > carphatian area
this is your current tree https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z467/ y-37 shows only basic info regarding your y-dna test results


here is your marker (red circle)

extended y-dna tree

https://i.ibb.co/YTXbs6z/J2-tree-2021.png
https://i.ibb.co/rH4xGN1/J2-PF5116-tree.png



so you're either L210 or S11842, in order to get deeper you will need to upgrade your y-dna test by ordering y-700.. get your discount these days, don't miss it



once you received your completed test results of big y-700, you have to upload a data file (your test results) to y-full in order to see yourself in the haplotree (ytree) among other testers like you who have the same haplogroup but different subclades (their own branches)..






What’s your Y700 result?


it's not yet known (the pending status)
1: order placed ✔
2: analyzing data ✔
3: results completed -

probably only three weeks remaining

happycow
12-29-2023, 10:09 PM
What are the advantages of putting it on yfull?

Honestly idk. I'm in a telegram group of arabs who belong to G and they insisted I do it. So I just did it.

happycow
12-29-2023, 10:12 PM
let us know when they add you.

btw how much does a big y cost now? it used to cost a lot. Y-700 at about 400$ on their site I think.

I wonder how far on the yfull list the Y-111 gets you, do you know? compared to Y-67 and to Y-700.

Initially I did y111 and it gave me generic G-M201 which tells me nothing. Then I upgrade to big y and it gave me my current haplogroup which I still feel like tells me nothing :icon_lol:

YSEQ and 23andme both gave me G-Z6032 which I thought Big Y would just give me that but it did not. But seems like there is a decent amount of people with G-Z6032 which is mostly found among Sardinians.

happycow
12-29-2023, 10:17 PM
they've added him! noice, thanks for sharing. so, other than himself, it's northern Caucasus and Sardinia.

do you know where Y-111 gets you, how deep, on yfull, compared to Y-67 and to Y-700?

yeah the palestinian one is me lol. so its either northern caucasus or Sardinia yet no clue which my paternal line descends from . Unless my paternal line was left completely untouched since Anatolian farmer migrations it seems rather slim that I would have a Sardinian ancestor who came to palestinian or something idk . But I get a small amount of Sardinian on 23&me so who knows.

Nurzat
12-30-2023, 07:23 AM
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do you know how far on the clade testing with YSEQ gets you?

I was looking at purchasing the J2a-M67 Panel (89$) but I already know I'm J-Z467 (J2a1b3) and that I am not J-L210 under it, so I'm curious if this YSEQ test brings you at least two levels further. the price is good.

YSEQ DNA Origins Project J2a-M67 Panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=45213&osCsid=83dff4f21b7165ea28eb5ccc280057a3)

Impaler
12-30-2023, 09:37 AM
indeed, we are actually one J2a family and you're my genetically bro, but geographically we live far away in various corners of the earth, and we have been influenced by other languages and cultures for centuries.. truly our j2 grand master ancestors discovered and explored new places, built magnificent civilizations, invented a lot of things and many others

your ancestors' migration should look like this: near east > transcaucasus > north caucasus > pontic steppes > carphatian area, or like this version: near east > transcaucasus > anatolia > ancient greece > eastern balkans > carphatian area
this is your current tree https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z467/ y-37 shows only basic info regarding your y-dna test results


here is your marker (red circle)

extended y-dna tree

https://i.ibb.co/YTXbs6z/J2-tree-2021.png
https://i.ibb.co/rH4xGN1/J2-PF5116-tree.png



so you're either L210 or S11842, in order to get deeper you will need to upgrade your y-dna test by ordering y-700.. get your discount these days, don't miss it



once you received your completed test results of big y-700, you have to upload a data file (your test results) to y-full in order to see yourself in the haplotree (ytree) among other testers like you who have the same haplogroup but different subclades (their own branches)..








it's not yet known (the pending status)
1: order placed ✔
2: analyzing data ✔
3: results completed -

probably only three weeks remaining

J2a-M67 has different subclades. Nurzat is J-Z467 while I belong to J-Y18824.

happycow
12-30-2023, 09:38 AM
do you know how far on the clade testing with YSEQ gets you?

I was looking at purchasing the J2a-M67 Panel (89$) but I already know I'm J-Z467 (J2a1b3) and that I am not J-L210 under it, so I'm curious if this YSEQ test brings you at least two levels further. the price is good.

YSEQ DNA Origins Project J2a-M67 Panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=45213&osCsid=83dff4f21b7165ea28eb5ccc280057a3)

Skip YSEQ and just do Big Y imo. For me it goes G-Z6032>G-FGC294>G-BY205667 according to Big Y

happycow
12-30-2023, 09:58 AM
By the way I added my mtdna also to Yfull. There are 2 others with my mtdna and they are Druze.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/K1a12a4a/

Nurzat
12-30-2023, 11:20 AM
By the way I added my mtdna also to Yfull. There are 2 others with my mtdna and they are Druze.

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/K1a12a4a/

did you get another test specifically for the maternal haplogroup?

I am H14b, would like to know the deeper clade

happycow
12-30-2023, 11:40 AM
did you get another test specifically for the maternal haplogroup?

I am H14b, would like to know the deeper clade

I did it through FTDNA as well. FTDNA gave me k1a12a, but I joined the haplogroup k project on FTDNA and they told me I was k1a12a4a. Then when I uploaded to yfull it also gave me k1a12a4a.

tk'es
12-30-2023, 01:35 PM
do you know how far on the clade testing with YSEQ gets you?

I was looking at purchasing the J2a-M67 Panel (89$) but I already know I'm J-Z467 (J2a1b3) and that I am not J-L210 under it, so I'm curious if this YSEQ test brings you at least two levels further. the price is good.

YSEQ DNA Origins Project J2a-M67 Panel (https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=45213&osCsid=83dff4f21b7165ea28eb5ccc280057a3)




y-700 is only one way you could research and investigate your clade deeply and find your closer relatives on the same branch, after data analyzing my autosomal dna they have changed my first haplogroup marker to another marker.. i was like wuuuuut??





J2a-M67 has different subclades. Nurzat is J-Z467 while I belong to J-Y18824.



yup, and rotschild is j-y15238

tarik.brkt
01-16-2024, 06:25 PM
I did it through FTDNA as well. FTDNA gave me k1a12a, but I joined the haplogroup k project on FTDNA and they told me I was k1a12a4a. Then when I uploaded to yfull it also gave me k1a12a4a.
Hello, greetings to you ...
Do you have a result on yfuLL? What is the legacy regarding the Middle East, specifically Palestine?

happycow
01-17-2024, 05:04 PM
Hello, greetings to you ...
Do you have a result on yfuLL? What is the legacy regarding the Middle East, specifically Palestine?

Yes both my ydna and mtdna are on yfull. Ydna is here: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/G-YP4752/ and mtdna is here: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/K1a12a4a/

I'm not sure what you mean about legacy regarding middle east or palestine, but my Ydna appears to be a clade of G specific to some families in the village I am from, potentially from a Roman source, while my mtdna is found among Israeli Druze.