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cass
06-24-2023, 06:03 PM
Most of the migratory flows swept through Central Europe. Check when you could have passed Poland.



Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81,0.125205,0.093429,0.05 4682,0.114343,-0.014772,0.05271,-0.00094,-0.000462,-0.048063,-0.069432,-0.003248,-0.002847,-0.006095,-0.025047,0.038952,0.013392,-0.005476,-0.001647,0.003394,0.004377,0.003119,0.006554,-0.001602,0.020364,0.003712
Corded_Ware_POL,0.1226444,0.1117083,0.0613764,0.08 41146,0.0130023,0.0304457,0.0052288,0.0011347,-0.0208956,-0.0377683,-0.0032479,0.000687,-0.0021804,-0.0148977,0.0223599,0.011712,-0.0026946,0.000243,0.0016759,0.0081708,0.0045544,0 .0035035,0.0037077,0.0111461,-0.0016864
POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0.125926,0.085606 ,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.017626,0.014307,0.00 3886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
POL_Krakow_MA:VK210,0.117238,0.121864,0.067505,0.0 5168,0.047701,0.018965,0.008225,-0.004615,-0.006136,-0.03098,-0.008282,-0.008542,0.006095,0.003578,0.001221,-0.024131,-0.019558,0.011275,0.004777,-0.001376,-0.022336,0.000742,0.003821,0.01446,-0.003473
POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0. 072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634 ,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
HUN_Starcevo_N,0.1224736,0.187873,0.0081458,-0.0981276,0.0590264,-0.0519296,-0.0036662,-0.0063688,0.0435636,0.0864894,0.0070804,0.0125888,-0.023667,0.0040734,-0.037513,-0.0220632,0.0077708,0.0015456,0.0112372,-0.0162328,-0.0126278,0.0111288,-0.0014542,-0.0054704,-0.0046462
Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667 435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
Trzciniec_Mierzanowice,0.1223861,0.1225197,0.08033 84,0.087056,0.0399222,0.0330121,0.0052641,0.010632 7,-0.0008653,-0.0276466,-0.0006396,-0.004828,0.0081146,0.0068726,0.0065313,0.0078656,0 .0015044,-0.000039,0.0014368,0.0067552,0.0040909,-0.0006031,0.0009955,-0.0093247,-0.0006484
Corded_Ware_POL,0.1228414,0.1103022,0.0608615,0.08 64398,0.0108658,0.0321583,0.0047543,0.0010118,-0.0229854,-0.040204,-0.0032479,0.0004152,-0.0024815,-0.0156784,0.0236362,0.0118412,-0.0029085,0.0000976,0.0018081,0.0078789,0.004444,0 .0037382,0.0032992,0.0118552,-0.0012712
Baltic_LTU_BA,0.129189,0.1284645,0.091075,0.093993 ,0.040469,0.036395,0.0072855,0.011076,-0.0031705,-0.0483835,-0.0021925,-0.017834,0.0152375,0.026905,-0.009636,-0.00358,-0.008801,0.0025975,-0.004902,0.0006875,-0.0034315,0.0012365,0.000493,-0.0144595,0.0091605
Bell_Beaker_POL,0.12862,0.1291415,0.0516655,0.0443 048,0.0293388,0.016501,0.0025067,0.0024228,-0.004295,0.0003643,-0.0156172,0.0037465,-0.0145195,-0.0121793,0.0155398,0.0084857,-0.0006305,0.0008868,0.0035825,0.0036693,0.005615,0 .0081818,0.0052587,0.0003213,0.0011975
POL_Weklice,0.1325406,0.1295364,0.0744184,0.063487 4,0.0426062,0.0238607,0.0064236,0.0109483,0.004931 2,-0.0093142,-0.0056656,0.005262,-0.0080772,-0.0048472,0.0188952,0.0100621,0.0004054,0.0001832, 0.00169,0.0044188,0.0092338,0.0032837,-0.0003151,0.0134421,-0.0010646
POL_BKG_N,0.1216008,0.1717937,0.0336267,-0.0614238,0.0693462,-0.0323977,0.0003917,-0.0002308,0.0459497,0.0785738,0.0023545,0.009391,-0.0177153,0.0030967,-0.0301073,-0.0055688,0.0116477,0.0028717,0.0128632,-0.0093795,-0.0042425,0.0074812,-0.0079698,-0.0190388,-0.0034728
POL_Bodzia_VA,0.1315794,0.1273474,0.0807038,0.0682 176,0.0445004,0.027889,-0.0013162,0.0068766,0.0020452,-0.021759,-0.0045468,-0.001019,0.0072844,0.013267,-0.0029042,0.0041632,0.0007564,-0.004434,0.004676,0.0040772,0.0002494,-0.0010386,0.0006162,-0.0007472,0.00091
POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture,0.1274815,0.1183095,0. 056757,0.0692835,0.024158,0.022172,0.003055,0.0077 305,-0.0154415,-0.0215035,-0.0043845,0.004271,-0.009514,-0.015689,0.0245655,0.009944,-0.000978,0.0000635,0.001383,0.0070035,-0.001809,-0.002473,-0.0015405,0.006627,-0.002455
POL_EBA,0.127482,0.1183095,0.0708985,0.0867255,0.0 29544,0.024961,0.0022325,0.007615,-0.009408,-0.032529,0.0,-0.0009745,0.0057235,-0.0009635,0.017033,0.019623,0.0041725,-0.00228,0.0028915,0.007441,0.0069875,0.003586,0.00 228,-0.006085,-0.000599
POL_Globular_Amphora,0.1272921,0.1694807,0.0603394 ,-0.0199542,0.0843063,-0.0185152,0.0017103,0.0081407,0.0541874,0.0707379,-0.0003428,0.0092169,-0.0161709,-0.0059177,-0.0095757,0.0004493,0.0040782,0.0064189,0.006257,-0.0005628,0.0097466,0.0082159,-0.0144337,-0.0274872,0.0010844
POL_Unetice_EBA,0.127482,0.1193245,0.0616595,0.062 339,0.028928,0.0246815,0.010928,0.005769,-0.011351,-0.013121,0.0034105,0.0064445,-0.0080275,-0.0090145,0.011129,0.0005305,-0.0073665,0.003547,0.0052165,0.014507,0.004804,0.0 087175,0.0003085,0.0048805,-0.002814
POL_TRB:N,0.124826,0.1729787,0.0434947,-0.047481,0.0752963,-0.025751,-0.0017233,0.0003847,0.047995,0.0804877,0.0014617,0 .01109,-0.0212583,-0.0068353,-0.021308,-0.0010163,0.014255,0.002069,0.0067457,-0.0039603,0.0093583,0.0004123,-0.0091207,-0.0216493,-0.00467



Target: cass
Distance: 1.1211% / 0.01121073
37.2 Krakauer_Berg
21.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA
19.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
12.4 POL_Weklice
5.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
2.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
2.2 Corded_Ware_POL_early

Katarzyna
06-24-2023, 06:13 PM
Target: Katarzyna_scaled
Distance: 1.2023% / 0.01202321
83.8 Krakauer_Berg
8.6 POL_Sandomierz_VA
5.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
1.8 HUN_Starcevo_N


Slavic as f*ck ;)

LaSentinelle
06-24-2023, 08:21 PM
Target: Dmitryscaled
Distance: 2.5238% / 0.02523802
69.6 Krakauer_Berg
12.0 POL_Krakow_MA
10.8 Corded_Ware_POL
6.2 POL_Unetice_EBA
1.4 HUN_Starcevo_N

Distance to: Dmitryscaled
0.02973697 Krakauer_Berg
0.03528271 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.04561821 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.04762093 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.05058042 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.05205150 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05423030 POL_Weklice
0.05468599 POL_EBA
0.05472208 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.06089101 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.06265677 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.06761714 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.06877599 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07292690 Corded_Ware_POL
0.13013732 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.16961164 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.19124444 POL_TRB:N
0.19913312 POL_BKG_N
0.24378196 HUN_Starcevo_N

Abriekman
06-25-2023, 07:50 PM
Target: Abriekman_dad_scaled {Polish}
Distance: 2.7059% / 0.02705894
75.4 Krakauer_Berg
10.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
9.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early
4.6 POL_EBA

Beowulf
06-25-2023, 08:02 PM
just added a spanish sample for me:


Target: VikiingMallorcaSpain_Scaled
Distance: 2.4482% / 0.02448180
36.2 Spanish
29.2 Bell_Beaker_POL
15.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
8.2 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
6.0 POL_Weklice
5.2 Krakauer_Berg

Slavic Italian
06-25-2023, 08:15 PM
Target: Sexy old dude_scaled
Distance: 2.7881% / 0.02788135 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Bell_Beaker_POL
20.4 POL_Krakow_MA
18.6 POL_Unetice_EBA
18.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
5.0 POL_Cedynia_VA
3.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA

Distance to:
0.04910921 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.06525854 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.06872657 POL_Weklice
0.07162777 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.07580472 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.07625454 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.07767326 Krakauer_Berg
0.08706356 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.09012144 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.09216578 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.09336477 POL_EBA
0.09793465 Corded_Ware_POL
0.10251701 Corded_Ware_POL
0.11509964 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.12679488 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.14222950 POL_TRB:N
0.14878031 POL_BKG_N
0.16152801 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.18827844 HUN_Starcevo_N

cass
06-26-2023, 07:20 AM
just added a spanish sample for me:


There is no need IMHO. The Globular Amphora Neolithic should work properly even for the Basques.

oszkar07
06-26-2023, 07:23 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0936% / 0.02093597
31.6 POL_Unetice_EBA
16.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
16.4 Baltic_LTU_BA
11.2 POL_Krakow_MA
10.6 POL_Weklice
8.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA
4.6 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early

cass
06-26-2023, 08:30 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0936% / 0.02093597
31.6 POL_Unetice_EBA
16.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
16.4 Baltic_LTU_BA
11.2 POL_Krakow_MA
10.6 POL_Weklice
8.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA
4.6 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early

Very interesting old structure. Little influence of Celts and Slavs.

Abriekman
06-26-2023, 10:13 AM
Most of the migratory flows swept through Central Europe. Check when you could have passed Poland.



Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81,0.125205,0.093429,0.05 4682,0.114343,-0.014772,0.05271,-0.00094,-0.000462,-0.048063,-0.069432,-0.003248,-0.002847,-0.006095,-0.025047,0.038952,0.013392,-0.005476,-0.001647,0.003394,0.004377,0.003119,0.006554,-0.001602,0.020364,0.003712
Corded_Ware_POL,0.1226444,0.1117083,0.0613764,0.08 41146,0.0130023,0.0304457,0.0052288,0.0011347,-0.0208956,-0.0377683,-0.0032479,0.000687,-0.0021804,-0.0148977,0.0223599,0.011712,-0.0026946,0.000243,0.0016759,0.0081708,0.0045544,0 .0035035,0.0037077,0.0111461,-0.0016864
POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0.125926,0.085606 ,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.017626,0.014307,0.00 3886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
POL_Krakow_MA:VK210,0.117238,0.121864,0.067505,0.0 5168,0.047701,0.018965,0.008225,-0.004615,-0.006136,-0.03098,-0.008282,-0.008542,0.006095,0.003578,0.001221,-0.024131,-0.019558,0.011275,0.004777,-0.001376,-0.022336,0.000742,0.003821,0.01446,-0.003473
POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0. 072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634 ,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
HUN_Starcevo_N,0.1224736,0.187873,0.0081458,-0.0981276,0.0590264,-0.0519296,-0.0036662,-0.0063688,0.0435636,0.0864894,0.0070804,0.0125888,-0.023667,0.0040734,-0.037513,-0.0220632,0.0077708,0.0015456,0.0112372,-0.0162328,-0.0126278,0.0111288,-0.0014542,-0.0054704,-0.0046462
Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667 435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.0092645,0.0149742,0.0188792,-0.0083037,0.0013741,0.0066141,-0.0015894,0.0034395,0.003297,-0.0047075,-0.0031365,0.0046274,-0.0053785,0.0002395
Trzciniec_Mierzanowice,0.1223861,0.1225197,0.08033 84,0.087056,0.0399222,0.0330121,0.0052641,0.010632 7,-0.0008653,-0.0276466,-0.0006396,-0.004828,0.0081146,0.0068726,0.0065313,0.0078656,0 .0015044,-0.000039,0.0014368,0.0067552,0.0040909,-0.0006031,0.0009955,-0.0093247,-0.0006484
Corded_Ware_POL,0.1228414,0.1103022,0.0608615,0.08 64398,0.0108658,0.0321583,0.0047543,0.0010118,-0.0229854,-0.040204,-0.0032479,0.0004152,-0.0024815,-0.0156784,0.0236362,0.0118412,-0.0029085,0.0000976,0.0018081,0.0078789,0.004444,0 .0037382,0.0032992,0.0118552,-0.0012712
Baltic_LTU_BA,0.129189,0.1284645,0.091075,0.093993 ,0.040469,0.036395,0.0072855,0.011076,-0.0031705,-0.0483835,-0.0021925,-0.017834,0.0152375,0.026905,-0.009636,-0.00358,-0.008801,0.0025975,-0.004902,0.0006875,-0.0034315,0.0012365,0.000493,-0.0144595,0.0091605
Bell_Beaker_POL,0.12862,0.1291415,0.0516655,0.0443 048,0.0293388,0.016501,0.0025067,0.0024228,-0.004295,0.0003643,-0.0156172,0.0037465,-0.0145195,-0.0121793,0.0155398,0.0084857,-0.0006305,0.0008868,0.0035825,0.0036693,0.005615,0 .0081818,0.0052587,0.0003213,0.0011975
POL_Weklice,0.1325406,0.1295364,0.0744184,0.063487 4,0.0426062,0.0238607,0.0064236,0.0109483,0.004931 2,-0.0093142,-0.0056656,0.005262,-0.0080772,-0.0048472,0.0188952,0.0100621,0.0004054,0.0001832, 0.00169,0.0044188,0.0092338,0.0032837,-0.0003151,0.0134421,-0.0010646
POL_BKG_N,0.1216008,0.1717937,0.0336267,-0.0614238,0.0693462,-0.0323977,0.0003917,-0.0002308,0.0459497,0.0785738,0.0023545,0.009391,-0.0177153,0.0030967,-0.0301073,-0.0055688,0.0116477,0.0028717,0.0128632,-0.0093795,-0.0042425,0.0074812,-0.0079698,-0.0190388,-0.0034728
POL_Bodzia_VA,0.1315794,0.1273474,0.0807038,0.0682 176,0.0445004,0.027889,-0.0013162,0.0068766,0.0020452,-0.021759,-0.0045468,-0.001019,0.0072844,0.013267,-0.0029042,0.0041632,0.0007564,-0.004434,0.004676,0.0040772,0.0002494,-0.0010386,0.0006162,-0.0007472,0.00091
POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture,0.1274815,0.1183095,0. 056757,0.0692835,0.024158,0.022172,0.003055,0.0077 305,-0.0154415,-0.0215035,-0.0043845,0.004271,-0.009514,-0.015689,0.0245655,0.009944,-0.000978,0.0000635,0.001383,0.0070035,-0.001809,-0.002473,-0.0015405,0.006627,-0.002455
POL_EBA,0.127482,0.1183095,0.0708985,0.0867255,0.0 29544,0.024961,0.0022325,0.007615,-0.009408,-0.032529,0.0,-0.0009745,0.0057235,-0.0009635,0.017033,0.019623,0.0041725,-0.00228,0.0028915,0.007441,0.0069875,0.003586,0.00 228,-0.006085,-0.000599
POL_Globular_Amphora,0.1272921,0.1694807,0.0603394 ,-0.0199542,0.0843063,-0.0185152,0.0017103,0.0081407,0.0541874,0.0707379,-0.0003428,0.0092169,-0.0161709,-0.0059177,-0.0095757,0.0004493,0.0040782,0.0064189,0.006257,-0.0005628,0.0097466,0.0082159,-0.0144337,-0.0274872,0.0010844
POL_Unetice_EBA,0.127482,0.1193245,0.0616595,0.062 339,0.028928,0.0246815,0.010928,0.005769,-0.011351,-0.013121,0.0034105,0.0064445,-0.0080275,-0.0090145,0.011129,0.0005305,-0.0073665,0.003547,0.0052165,0.014507,0.004804,0.0 087175,0.0003085,0.0048805,-0.002814
POL_TRB:N,0.124826,0.1729787,0.0434947,-0.047481,0.0752963,-0.025751,-0.0017233,0.0003847,0.047995,0.0804877,0.0014617,0 .01109,-0.0212583,-0.0068353,-0.021308,-0.0010163,0.014255,0.002069,0.0067457,-0.0039603,0.0093583,0.0004123,-0.0091207,-0.0216493,-0.00467



Target: cass
Distance: 1.1211% / 0.01121073
37.2 Krakauer_Berg
21.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA
19.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
12.4 POL_Weklice
5.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
2.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
2.2 Corded_Ware_POL_early

Do you know what is HUN_Starcevo_N ?

oszkar07
06-26-2023, 10:26 AM
Very interesting old structure. Little influence of Celts and Slavs.

which is which

cass
06-26-2023, 11:20 AM
which is which

Bell_Beaker_POL,0.12862,0.1291415,0.0516655,0.0443 048,0.0293388,0.016501,0.0025067,0.0024228,-0.004295,0.0003643,-0.0156172,0.0037465
Celtic like

Krakauer_Berg,0.1292408,0.1278645,0.0744299,0.0667 435,0.0442321,0.0231226,0.0087166,0.012545,-0.0003718,-0.0232598,-0.00248,-0.009264
Early Slavic migration


MA/VA Polish samples are usually more Slavic/Viking or Slavic Wielbark

cass
06-26-2023, 11:24 AM
Do you know what is HUN_Starcevo_N ?

Eastern Neolithic

Lemminkäinen
06-26-2023, 12:57 PM
Distance 2.89%, but not so bad compared to those with Slavic ancestry.

Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 2.8925% / 0.02892545
24.2 Krakauer_Berg
20.2 POL_Sandomierz_VA
17.2 POL_Bodzia_VA
14.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early
11.2 POL_Weklice
8.2 POL_Krakow_MA
3.6 POL_Unetice_EBA
1.0 POL_EBA

Distance to: maurim1_scaled
0.03655747 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03874841 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.04127997 Krakauer_Berg
0.04547034 POL_EBA
0.04877169 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05026179 POL_Weklice
0.05276787 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.05521010 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.05878758 Corded_Ware_POL
0.05930833 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06025770 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.06102160 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.06236112 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07142252 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.11680368 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.18177616 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.20548998 POL_TRB:N
0.21507576 POL_BKG_N
0.26078898 HUN_Starcevo_N

Grace O'Malley
06-26-2023, 01:20 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.1839% / 0.02183872
55.6 POL_Weklice
27.2 Bell_Beaker_POL
8.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
4.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early
4.6 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02854273 POL_Weklice
0.03393577 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04303721 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.04590643 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.05995468 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.06484920 POL_EBA
0.06960281 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.07012495 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07189862 Krakauer_Berg
0.07452470 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07594660 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.08273629 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.09123306 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.10232518 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.13322928 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.14687215 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.17011395 POL_TRB:N
0.18267703 POL_BKG_N
0.22665025 HUN_Starcevo_N

Eurafricanid
06-26-2023, 01:38 PM
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 2.3591% / 0.02359100
30.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
26.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
22.8 POL_TRB
18.8 Corded_Ware_POL_early
1.8 POL_Globular_Amphora

Eurafricanid
06-26-2023, 01:44 PM
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 2.3591% / 0.02359100
30.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
26.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
22.8 POL_TRB
18.8 Corded_Ware_POL_early
1.8 POL_Globular_Amphora

What is POL_TRB supposed to be?

cass
06-26-2023, 01:59 PM
What is POL_TRB supposed to be?

Funnelbeaker culture. 4300-2800 BC

cass
06-26-2023, 02:04 PM
...
Distance to: maurim1_scaled
0.03655747 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03874841 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.04127997 Krakauer_Berg
0.04547034 POL_EBA
0.04877169 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05026179 POL_Weklice
0.05276787 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.05521010 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.05878758 Corded_Ware_POL
0.05930833 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06025770 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.06102160 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.06236112 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07142252 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.11680368 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.18177616 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.20548998 POL_TRB:N
0.21507576 POL_BKG_N
0.26078898 HUN_Starcevo_N
Cool. Bodzia is probably Ruryk family. Their cradle Great Novgorod sounds very convincing.

Dušan
06-26-2023, 02:07 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6668% / 0.02666803
38.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
29.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
13.2 Corded_Ware_POL_early
10.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA
4.4 POL_Krakow_MA
4.0 Krakauer_Berg



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.7232% / 0.02723191 | R3P
53.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
30.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
15.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early

cass
06-26-2023, 02:09 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.1839% / 0.02183872
55.6 POL_Weklice
27.2 Bell_Beaker_POL
8.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
4.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early
4.6 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02854273 POL_Weklice
0.03393577 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.04303721 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.04590643 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.05995468 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.06484920 POL_EBA
0.06960281 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.07012495 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07189862 Krakauer_Berg
0.07452470 Corded_Ware_POL
0.07594660 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.08273629 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.09123306 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.10232518 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.13322928 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.14687215 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.17011395 POL_TRB:N
0.18267703 POL_BKG_N
0.22665025 HUN_Starcevo_N

wow. It looks like late Wielbark , Goths and Celts contact.

cass
06-26-2023, 02:22 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.6668% / 0.02666803
38.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
29.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
13.2 Corded_Ware_POL_early
10.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA
4.4 POL_Krakow_MA
4.0 Krakauer_Berg



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.7232% / 0.02723191 | R3P
53.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
30.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
15.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early

Very simple and clear structure.

Far_away
06-26-2023, 04:01 PM
Distance: 3.2320% / 0.03232046
39.2 Krakauer_Berg
37.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
23.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81

cass
06-26-2023, 04:46 PM
Distance: 3.2320% / 0.03232046
39.2 Krakauer_Berg
37.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
23.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81


Strong Early Corded admixture

Eurafricanid
06-26-2023, 05:13 PM
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 2.3591% / 0.02359100
30.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
26.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
22.8 POL_TRB
18.8 Corded_Ware_POL_early
1.8 POL_Globular_Amphora

It's basically the same distance in 4 pop limit
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 2.3595% / 0.02359500 | R4P
27.2 POL_TRB
26.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
25.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
21.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early

I just realized :eek:

cass
06-26-2023, 05:57 PM
It's basically the same distance in 4 pop limit
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 2.3595% / 0.02359500 | R4P
27.2 POL_TRB
26.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
25.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
21.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early

I just realized :eek:

You should add other samples for more reliable results


ZAF_400BP,-0.6298213,0.0639787,0.0207413,0.0172267,0.0025647, 0.0085527,0.0045433,0.0015383,-0.024679,0.009962,0.003681,-0.0038963,-0.010852,-0.001743,-0.0141147,0.0147173,-0.0065627,0.03864,-0.0158377,0.0036267,-0.003286,-0.0011127,0.001438,-0.00245,0.0024347
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0165045,-0.444802,0.0725955,-0.0515185,-0.037545,-0.0428095,0.009635,0.007615,0.0029655,0.019226,-0.054644,-0.0036715,0.001412,0.0111475,-0.0116045,-0.011933,-0.0068455,0.0048775,0.018792,0.0112555,0.0129145,-0.027698,-0.0207055,-0.0001205,-0.011496
USA_Ancient_Beringian:USR1__BC_9475__Coverage_99.9 5%,0.039838,-0.301612,0.089755,0.088502,-0.087093,-0.016733,-0.125731,-0.155301,-0.015953,-0.026242,0.005196,-0.005245,0.010704,-0.007982,-0.008686,0.001326,0.001304,0.010135,0.006662,0.014 007,-0.008111,0.003957,0.004807,0.00494,0.00467
USA_Anzick:Anzick__BC_10762__Coverage_98.57%,0.048 944,-0.294504,0.115022,0.094316,-0.100634,-0.011992,-0.259217,-0.314525,-0.008795,-0.025149,0.00406,-0.0003,0.001338,0.007982,-0.011672,0.009812,0.006519,-0.00152,-0.001006,0.005253,-0.000873,0.002226,-0.006655,0.004699,0.002754
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0440117,0.0680407,-0.1537397,0.0023687,-0.1218687,0.0190573,0.0174693,-0.0033073,-0.0830367,-0.0554,-0.000325,-0.0047957,0.0061447,-0.009496,0.029587,0.0588257,-0.008084,0.009924,0.0111033,-0.036226,0.0094003,-0.02708,-0.0116263,-0.037877,0.025786
MAR_Taforalt,-0.195776,0.083781,-0.0241355,-0.0886635,0.029544,-0.058567,-0.0734405,0.0188065,0.158915,0.00246,0.018837,-0.0362675,0.079236,-0.0516775,0.0695565,-0.0380535,0.0065195,-0.0703755,-0.1431075,0.0378305,-0.038557,-0.126002,0.0718535,-0.0113265,0.019459
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG:I0061__BC_6500__Coverage_87.22% ,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502

noricum
06-26-2023, 06:15 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0645% / 0.02064456 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 POL_Cedynia_VA
21.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
14.2 POL_Krakow_MA
13.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
12.0 POL_Weklice
1.2 POL_Sandomierz_VA

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.05248075 Krakauer_Berg
0.05290939 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05351258 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.05713010 POL_Weklice
0.05767971 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.06047072 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.06065978 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06255172 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.07124750 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.07272329 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.08022708 POL_EBA
0.08952184 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.09119765 Corded_Ware_POL
0.09576443 Corded_Ware_POL
0.13611162 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.15484067 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.15638954 POL_TRB:N
0.16287381 POL_BKG_N
0.20548956 HUN_Starcevo_N

With NW Italian sample added:

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.8920% / 0.01892023 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
35.8 North_Italian:NWest_ItalianB
13.6 POL_Weklice
8.4 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
4.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494

Jana
06-26-2023, 06:19 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled_AncestryDNA
Distance: 0.0316% / 0.03158194

52.9 Krakauer_Berg
30.0 POL_BKG_N
16.9 Corded_Ware_POL_early
0.1 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.1 POL_EBA

Target: Feiichy_scaled_MyHeritage
Distance: 0.0297% / 0.02967636

64.7 Krakauer_Berg
14.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
8.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early
6.6 POL_BKG_N
5.9 Bell_Beaker_POL

Target: Feiichy_scaled_23andme_V4
Distance: 0.0313% / 0.03130799

50.8 Krakauer_Berg
30.5 POL_BKG_N
18.2 Corded_Ware_POL_early
0.5 Bell_Beaker_POL

cass
06-26-2023, 06:46 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.0645% / 0.02064456 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 POL_Cedynia_VA
21.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
14.2 POL_Krakow_MA
13.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
12.0 POL_Weklice
1.2 POL_Sandomierz_VA

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.05248075 Krakauer_Berg
0.05290939 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05351258 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.05713010 POL_Weklice
0.05767971 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.06047072 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.06065978 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06255172 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.07124750 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.07272329 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.08022708 POL_EBA
0.08952184 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.09119765 Corded_Ware_POL
0.09576443 Corded_Ware_POL
0.13611162 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.15484067 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.15638954 POL_TRB:N
0.16287381 POL_BKG_N
0.20548956 HUN_Starcevo_N

With NW Italian sample added:

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.8920% / 0.01892023 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
35.8 North_Italian:NWest_ItalianB
13.6 POL_Weklice
8.4 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
4.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494

So North_Italian:NWest_ItalianB can be modelled by HUN_Starcevo_N + Bell_Beaker_POL. ;)
Btw your Slavic samples are pretty NW shifted (Krakow MA) plus extra Germanic POL_Weklice.

Jana
06-27-2023, 10:19 AM
out of curiosity tested my rural north Croat friend:

Target: Martin_scaled
Distance: 0.0190% / 0.01901964

41.5 POL_Sandomierz_VA
18.8 POL_Krakow_MA
16.8 Corded_Ware_POL
15.1 HUN_Starcevo_N
4.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
2.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early
0.6 Baltic_LTU_BA

Vitez
06-27-2023, 10:42 AM
Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 0.0164% / 0.01641852 | R3P
51.0 Krakauer_Berg
26.0 Corded_Ware_POL
23.0 HUN_Starcevo_N

Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01632743
53.4 Krakauer_Berg
23.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
15.9 Corded_Ware_POL
6.9 Corded_Ware_POL_early

rothaer
06-27-2023, 10:52 AM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.2993% / 0.01299288
39.0 POL_Weklice
33.0 Krakauer_Berg
11.2 POL_TRB
8.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early
4.6 POL_Sandomierz_VA
1.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
1.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
1.2 POL_EBA

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3982% / 0.01398188 | R3P
54.6 POL_Weklice
38.8 Krakauer_Berg
6.6 HUN_Starcevo_N

Unusually much Germanic in R3P. :icon_ask:

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.4668% / 0.01466787
54.0 POL_Weklice
18.8 Bell_Beaker_POL
12.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA
8.8 POL_Unetice_EBA
5.6 POL_Cedynia_VA

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.5073% / 0.01507294 | R3P
56.4 POL_Weklice
23.8 Bell_Beaker_POL
19.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA

Duke
06-27-2023, 12:39 PM
Target: duke_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.4487% / 0.01448714
47.0 Krakauer_Berg
26.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
23.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early
3.0 POL_Cedynia_VA

Target: duke_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.4509% / 0.01450913 | R3P
50.6 Krakauer_Berg
26.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
23.2 Corded_Ware_POL_early

Beowulf
06-27-2023, 01:16 PM
Target: Abuela
Distance: 1.5741% / 0.01574099
80.0 Spanish
20.0 Krakauer_Berg

For my grandmother was almost perfect adding a spanish sample

cakmir7y
06-27-2023, 02:05 PM
So what does it say about me?

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.8938% / 0.01893801
53.2 Krakauer_Berg
16.6 POL_TRB
11.2 POL_Bodzia_VA
10.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early
5.8 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
1.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
1.4 Bell_Beaker_POL


Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.03800288 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03830268 Krakauer_Berg
0.04595581 POL_Weklice
0.04934817 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05248132 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05714518 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.05994200 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06071364 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.06140260 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.06273587 POL_EBA
0.06376981 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.07950703 Corded_Ware_POL
0.08134261 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.08428589 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14266526 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.14510708 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.16360415 POL_TRB:N
0.17310410 POL_BKG_N
0.21907467 HUN_Starcevo_N

Duke
06-27-2023, 02:41 PM
Is Starčevo_N old Balkan/Panonian or more recent?

cass
06-27-2023, 06:06 PM
Is Starčevo_N old Balkan/Panonian or more recent?

The Starčevo culture represents a northern expansion of Early Neolithic Farmers who settled from Anatolia to present-day central Greece and expanded northwards.
circa 6,200 B.C.E. — circa 4,500 B.C.E.


I added this sample to balance Polish coordinates

cass
06-27-2023, 06:15 PM
So what does it say about me?

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.8938% / 0.01893801
53.2 Krakauer_Berg
16.6 POL_TRB
11.2 POL_Bodzia_VA
10.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early
5.8 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
1.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
1.4 Bell_Beaker_POL


Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.03800288 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03830268 Krakauer_Berg
0.04595581 POL_Weklice
0.04934817 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05248132 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05714518 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.05994200 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.06071364 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.06140260 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.06273587 POL_EBA
0.06376981 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.07950703 Corded_Ware_POL
0.08134261 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.08428589 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14266526 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.14510708 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.16360415 POL_TRB:N
0.17310410 POL_BKG_N
0.21907467 HUN_Starcevo_N

Ca 2/3 Slavic 1/3 older northern IE locals. Surprisingly no Celtic similarities. Maybe try X0.25

cass
06-27-2023, 06:36 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.2993% / 0.01299288
39.0 POL_Weklice
33.0 Krakauer_Berg
11.2 POL_TRB
8.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early
4.6 POL_Sandomierz_VA
1.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
1.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
1.2 POL_EBA

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3982% / 0.01398188 | R3P
54.6 POL_Weklice
38.8 Krakauer_Berg
6.6 HUN_Starcevo_N

Unusually much Germanic in R3P. :icon_ask:



This may be a random result to balance a relatively strong Krakauer_Berg.


For me everything foreign escapes to Bell_Beaker.

Target: cass
Distance: 1.3337% / 0.01333740 | R3P
39.6 Krakauer_Berg
36.6 Bell_Beaker_POL
23.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA

Kiel
06-27-2023, 07:04 PM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.9447% / 0.01944655 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Bell_Beaker_POL
13.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
12.0 POL_Weklice
10.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA
8.0 POL_Cedynia_VA
2.8 Krakauer_Berg

Target: GF_scaled
Distance: 2.1910% / 0.02190985 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 POL_Cedynia_VA
21.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early
19.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
10.0 POL_Krakow_MA
3.8 Krakauer_Berg

Gergő Marosvári
06-27-2023, 07:28 PM
Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.5300% / 0.02529965
52.4 Krakauer_Berg
25.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
22.6 HUN_Starcevo_N

cakmir7y
06-27-2023, 07:38 PM
Ca 2/3 Slavic 1/3 older northern IE locals. Surprisingly no Celtic similarities. Maybe try X0.25

Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.9629% / 0.01962932 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.2 Krakauer_Berg
24.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
14.4 POL_Bodzia_VA
7.0 POL_TRB
2.4 HUN_Starcevo_N

gixajo
06-27-2023, 08:19 PM
just added a spanish sample for me:


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Polish (and Hungarian) family as fuck ... :cool:

We all get under 3 without any Spanish reference, don´t you?

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4542% / 0.02454212
44.4 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
31.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
20.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
4.2 Bell_Beaker_POL

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.8297% / 0.02829660
46.6 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
34.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
18.8 POL_Globular_Amphora

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.8146% / 0.02814633
48.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
17.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early
13.8 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
11.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
4.8 POL_Krakow_MA
4.4 Bell_Beaker_POL

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 2.6827% / 0.02682715
39.6 POL_TRB
35.0 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
20.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
4.0 POL_Weklice
1.4 Bell_Beaker_POL

cass
06-27-2023, 08:43 PM
Polish (and Hungarian) family as fuck ... :cool:

We all get under 3 without any Spanish reference, don´t you?

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4542% / 0.02454212
44.4 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
31.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
20.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
4.2 Bell_Beaker_POL



A very correct result
Chłopice-Veselč - post Corded (incl GA)
Globular_Amphora Western Neolithic which reached Poland
HUN_Starcevo_N Eastern Neolithic


please compare Basque

https://i.ibb.co/kHpFrdb/bel.jpg (https://ibb.co/w0T1bvG)
dobry darmowy hosting (https://pl.imgbb.com/)

Kiel
06-27-2023, 08:56 PM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.9447% / 0.01944655 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Bell_Beaker_POL
13.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
12.0 POL_Weklice
10.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA
8.0 POL_Cedynia_VA
2.8 Krakauer_Berg

Target: GF_scaled
Distance: 2.1910% / 0.02190985 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 POL_Cedynia_VA
21.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early
19.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
10.0 POL_Krakow_MA
3.8 Krakauer_Berg

What do you think about these results?
Im not really sure about how to interpret these results.

cass
06-27-2023, 08:56 PM
Globular Amphora Culture from Kowal [Kujawy]
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Krzysztof-Szostek/publication/258477689/figure/fig1/AS:654054975877120@1532950266172/The-skull-from-the-Kowal-as-seen-in-three-planes-A-frontal-B-lateral-C-posterior.png
The skull from the Kowal as seen in three planes: A, frontal; B, lateral; C, posterior. Photo by T. Kozłowski.

cass
06-27-2023, 09:01 PM
What do you think about these results?
Im not really sure about how to interpret these results.

Very Celtic, minor Germanic, Slavic and local Balkan Neolithic,
You can always add some samples of early Hungarians for a better picture
Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:,0.0900625,-0.1172936,0.0799024,0.0480866,-0.0567029,-0.0102839,0.0051701,0.0079611,-0.0105841,-0.0273581,0.021273,-0.0049456,0.0079535,-0.0413901,-0.0081432,-0.0019558,-0.0045635,0.0004909,-0.000173,-0.0067375,-0.007939,0.0069555,0.0023109,0.0003618,-0.0020806

Kiel
06-27-2023, 09:21 PM
Very Celtic, minor Germanic, Slavic and local Balkan Neolithic,
You can always add some samples of early Hungarians for a better picture
Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:,0.0900625,-0.1172936,0.0799024,0.0480866,-0.0567029,-0.0102839,0.0051701,0.0079611,-0.0105841,-0.0273581,0.021273,-0.0049456,0.0079535,-0.0413901,-0.0081432,-0.0019558,-0.0045635,0.0004909,-0.000173,-0.0067375,-0.007939,0.0069555,0.0023109,0.0003618,-0.0020806

Thanks:)
Adding that sample doesnt change my results at all.
Im just 1/4 Hungarian by ancestry so that seems reasonable.
What do you think about ma GFs results? She is full Hungarian.

Vitez
06-27-2023, 09:26 PM
Cass, what do you think about my results ?
I don't know what Corded_Ware_POL represents

cass
06-27-2023, 09:48 PM
Thanks:)
Adding that sample doesnt change my results at all.
Im just 1/4 Hungarian by ancestry so that seems reasonable.
What do you think about ma GFs results? She is full Hungarian.


She looks 55% Slavic 40% local Preslavic and minor Germanic (via Slavic). Not far from Serb.

cass
06-27-2023, 10:08 PM
Cass, what do you think about my results ?
I don't know what Corded_Ware_POL represents

https://i.ibb.co/m5XGV5x/Vahaduo-Global-25-North-Europe-PCA-19.png (https://ibb.co/gZP3LZn)

Neolithic of the Balkans conquered by Early Indo Europeans from the North European Plain (CWC), once again strongly (51%) altered by IE Slavonics from Ukraine/Poland (here represented by Early Slav from Germany Krakauer_Berg)

cakmir7y
06-28-2023, 04:05 AM
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.9629% / 0.01962932 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.2 Krakauer_Berg
24.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
14.4 POL_Bodzia_VA
7.0 POL_TRB
2.4 HUN_Starcevo_N

bell beaker went up a lot, meaning that ......?

alnortedelsur
06-28-2023, 06:34 AM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.2189% / 0.03218906
35.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
23.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
17.2 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
7.2 Amerindian
6.6 Western_African
4.6 POL_Krakow_MA
3.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early
2.4 POL_Globular_Amphora

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 3.2548% / 0.03254823 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.2 Bell_Beaker_POL
32.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
8.0 POL_Krakow_MA
7.2 Amerindian
6.6 Western_African



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.10129615 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.12012125 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.12094767 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.12579202 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.12753547 POL_Weklice
0.13371696 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.13670327 Krakauer_Berg
0.13724938 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.14102259 POL_TRB:N
0.14377114 POL_BKG_N
0.14377771 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14534982 POL_EBA
0.14544311 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.14575222 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.14745561 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14781250 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.17004579 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.17648589 HUN_Starcevo_N
0.19787815 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.62308778 Amerindian
0.70355223 Western_African

Gergő Marosvári
06-28-2023, 08:00 AM
Very Celtic, minor Germanic, Slavic and local Balkan Neolithic,
You can always add some samples of early Hungarians for a better picture
Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:,0.0900625,-0.1172936,0.0799024,0.0480866,-0.0567029,-0.0102839,0.0051701,0.0079611,-0.0105841,-0.0273581,0.021273,-0.0049456,0.0079535,-0.0413901,-0.0081432,-0.0019558,-0.0045635,0.0004909,-0.000173,-0.0067375,-0.007939,0.0069555,0.0023109,0.0003618,-0.0020806

My results with the added Magyar Conqueror sample:

Target: Gergő
Distance: 2.3185% / 0.02318496
53.0 Krakauer_Berg
22.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
21.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
4.0 Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:

cass
06-28-2023, 10:05 PM
bell beaker went up a lot, meaning that ......?

It doesn't look like medieval Czech
https://i.ibb.co/H2Rr6mJ/czemed.jpg (https://ibb.co/3sV02tJ)

But rather later Austrian (Alpine) influences
https://i.ibb.co/60HkTR5/czeaustr.jpg (https://ibb.co/9Hb719j)

Wend-Kruzek
07-02-2023, 09:21 PM
on this calc:
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.03860553 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03995774 Krakauer_Berg
0.04900176 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05152699 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.05153384 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05176647 POL_Weklice
0.05426974 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.05461573 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.05859178 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.06184092 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.06559571 POL_EBA
0.07636489 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.07815027 Corded_Ware_POL
0.08260749 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14135578 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.14979566 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.17002960 POL_TRB:N
0.17777447 POL_BKG_N
0.22109598 HUN_Starcevo_N


Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 2.1608% / 0.02160786 | ADC: 0.25x RC
23.2 POL_Bodzia_VA
17.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
13.0 POL_Sandomierz_VA
11.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
9.8 POL_Krakow_MA
9.2 POL_Unetice_EBA
8.6 Krakauer_Berg
7.4 HUN_Starcevo_N

Thanks for the interpretation.:thumb001:

Figaro
07-02-2023, 10:01 PM
My half Polish mother:

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.5613% / 0.01561319
28.0 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
26.2 Krakauer_Berg
22.4 POL_Cedynia_VA
11.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
5.2 POL_Weklice
3.8 POL_Unetice_EBA
2.6 POL_Sandomierz_VA
0.4 Corded_Ware_POL_early

Also curious to see how my father would score: He's not actually Polish, but has some light Wendish admixture:

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 1.9016% / 0.01901567
55.8 POL_Weklice
15.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
10.4 POL_Krakow_MA
9.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early
8.8 POL_Sandomierz_VA

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 2.0006% / 0.02000563 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.6 POL_Weklice
16.2 POL_Krakow_MA
12.6 Bell_Beaker_POL
10.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
3.4 POL_Sandomierz_VA
2.0 POL_Bodzia_VA

cass
07-02-2023, 10:10 PM
on this calc:
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.03860553 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03995774 Krakauer_Berg
0.04900176 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05152699 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.05153384 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05176647 POL_Weklice
0.05426974 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.05461573 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.05859178 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.06184092 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.06559571 POL_EBA
0.07636489 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.07815027 Corded_Ware_POL
0.08260749 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14135578 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.14979566 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.17002960 POL_TRB:N
0.17777447 POL_BKG_N
0.22109598 HUN_Starcevo_N


Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 2.1608% / 0.02160786 | ADC: 0.25x RC
23.2 POL_Bodzia_VA
17.0 Bell_Beaker_POL
13.0 POL_Sandomierz_VA
11.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
9.8 POL_Krakow_MA
9.2 POL_Unetice_EBA
8.6 Krakauer_Berg
7.4 HUN_Starcevo_N

Thanks for the interpretation.:thumb001:

Surprisingly non-Slavic

Can you post it without 0.25x RC?
and add early Hungarian?
Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:,0.0900625,-0.1172936,0.0799024,0.0480866,-0.0567029,-0.0102839,0.0051701,0.0079611,-0.0105841,-0.0273581,0.021273,-0.0049456,0.0079535,-0.0413901,-0.0081432,-0.0019558,-0.0045635,0.0004909,-0.000173,-0.0067375,-0.007939,0.0069555,0.0023109,0.0003618,-0.0020806

Wend-Kruzek
07-03-2023, 08:14 AM
Surprisingly non-Slavic

Can you post it without 0.25x RC?
and add early Hungarian?
Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:,0.0900625,-0.1172936,0.0799024,0.0480866,-0.0567029,-0.0102839,0.0051701,0.0079611,-0.0105841,-0.0273581,0.021273,-0.0049456,0.0079535,-0.0413901,-0.0081432,-0.0019558,-0.0045635,0.0004909,-0.000173,-0.0067375,-0.007939,0.0069555,0.0023109,0.0003618,-0.0020806

Hi. Cass Thanks .

With Hun
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.03860553 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.03995774 Krakauer_Berg
0.04900176 POL_Unetice_EBA
0.05152699 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.05153384 Bell_Beaker_POL
0.05176647 POL_Weklice
0.05426974 POL_Krakow_MA:VK210
0.05461573 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
0.05859178 Trzciniec_Mierzanowice
0.06184092 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
0.06559571 POL_EBA
0.07636489 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.07815027 Corded_Ware_POL
0.08260749 Corded_Ware_POL
0.14135578 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.14979566 POL_Globular_Amphora
0.17002960 POL_TRB:N
0.17777447 POL_BKG_N
0.22109598 HUN_Starcevo_N
0.27724683 Magyar:Magyar:HUN_Conqueror_elite:

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.9029% / 0.01902887
27.0 POL_Sandomierz_VA
18.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
16.8 POL_Bodzia_VA
16.4 Baltic_LTU_BA
15.6 Corded_Ware_POL_early
2.4 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
2.0 Krakauer_Berg
1.0 Magyar
0.4 POL_Krakow_MA

I come from Western Slovakia. But there were many nationalities in Hungary.
I register surnames in my family tree.- Croatian, German, Hungarian, Czech-Moravian, and one French:D
for interest
I send too G25 pca Ancient. RAW

Distance to: Kruzek best macth
0.00814739 DNK_Langeland_VA:VK274
0.01183554 HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.01266215 SWE_Gotland_VA:VK53
0.01267359 SWE_Gotland_VA:VK473
0.01505556 RUS_Ladoga_VA:VK19
0.01631564 MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R9920
0.01672184 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA010
0.01692749 KED004
0.01746425 POL_Bodzia_VA:VK157
0.01776260 CZE_EBA_Unetice:I14192
0.01792373 HUN_IA_La_Tene:I20752
0.01800944 HUN_Conqueror_elite:CSU11
0.01814442 HUN_Conqueror_commoner:SZA29
0.01888041 SRB_Sirmium:R3906
0.01895574 HUN_Conqueror_commoner:HMSZ157
0.01922706 HUN_Conqueror_elite:VPB167
0.01927174 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006
0.01931243 BIH_unknown:I19561
0.01935665 SVK_IA_Vekerzug:I5287
0.01936905 GOS002
0.01955326 HUN_IA_La_Tene:I20774
0.01957422 HUN_Sarmatian_Late_Transtisza:A181021
0.01976487 HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA:I18721
0.01984137 HUN_Conqueror_commoner:IBE154
0.02014175 HUN_Conqueror_elite:MH19

Target: LudovitKruzek
Distance: 0.1735% / 0.00173543 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 DNK_Langeland_VA
13.6 SWE_Gotland_VA
9.6 DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg
7.0 RUS_Ladoga_VA
6.2 KED004
5.2 Bell_Beaker_CZE_late
3.6 POL_Cedynia_MA
3.4 GOS002
2.8 DEU_Singen_EIA
2.6 MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
2.2 HUN_Conqueror_commoner
1.6 England_IA
1.4 POL_Bodzia_VA
0.8 HRV_Bezdanjaca_BA
0.6 PAN_Isthmo_Colombian
0.4 BHS_Ceramic

Thank you very much for your time:thumb001:

Katarzyna
07-23-2023, 09:33 PM
Target: Katarzyna_scaled
Distance: 1.2023% / 0.01202321
83.8 Krakauer_Berg
8.6 POL_Sandomierz_VA
5.8 POL_Cedynia_VA
1.8 HUN_Starcevo_N


Slavic as f*ck ;)

That comment didn’t age well after I got my real coords. I am now a Gothic queen

Target: Katarzyna_scaled(sim)
Distance: 1.2023% / 0.01202321
83.8 Krakauer_Berg
8.6 POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
5.8 POL_Cedynia_VA:VK212
1.8 HUN_Starcevo_N

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.3182% / 0.01318187
85.2 Krakauer_Berg
13.2 POL_Weklice
1.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early:poz81
0.6 POL_TRB:N

gixajo
07-23-2023, 09:59 PM
Polish Neolithic family as fuck.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4542% / 0.02454212
44.4 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
31.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
20.4 HUN_Starcevo_N
4.2 Bell_Beaker_POL

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.8297% / 0.02829660
46.6 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
34.6 HUN_Starcevo_N
18.8 POL_Globular_Amphora

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.8146% / 0.02814633
48.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
17.0 Corded_Ware_POL_early
13.8 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
11.2 HUN_Starcevo_N
4.8 POL_Krakow_MA
4.4 Bell_Beaker_POL

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 1.8421% / 0.01842053
34.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
24.0 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
21.4 Bell_Beaker_POL
12.8 POL_TRB
7.0 HUN_Starcevo_N

Gallop
07-23-2023, 10:11 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.5450% / 0.03544967
28.8 Bell_Beaker_POL
23.8 POL_TRB
23.6 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
13.0 HUN_Starcevo_N
9.0 POL_Globular_Amphora
1.8 Corded_Ware_POL_early


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.6607% / 0.03660748
45.4 POL_TRB
25.2 Corded_Ware_POL
18.6 POL_Chlopice_Vesele_Culture
8.8 HUN_Starcevo_N
2.0 POL_Krakow_MA