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Avicenna
07-08-2023, 09:21 AM
Screenshots taken from a meeting held by the IEA, mostly Tajiks with uzbek/ hazara minority and possibly even pashtuns in the mix.

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Oliver109
07-08-2023, 10:44 AM
Mainly iranids, alpine iranids, pamirids this guy on the left looks quite French i think
https://i.ibb.co/HqCj1xd/Screenshot-20230708-100503-com-google-android-youtube.jpg

Avicenna
07-08-2023, 11:11 AM
Mainly iranids, alpine iranids, pamirids this guy on the left looks quite French i think
https://i.ibb.co/HqCj1xd/Screenshot-20230708-100503-com-google-android-youtube.jpg
Where do you see most of them passing ?

Oliver109
07-08-2023, 11:21 AM
Where do you see most of them passing ?

There, they just look Afghan

Avicenna
07-08-2023, 12:05 PM
There, they just look Afghan

On an individual basis , where do you see Alot of them passing ? Do you see overlap with Tajikistanis ? Iranians ? Indic Pakistanis ? Levantines ? Turks/Caucasus ?

gixajo
07-08-2023, 12:10 PM
On an individual basis , where do you see Alot of them passing ? Do you see overlap with Tajikistanis ? Iranians ? Indic Pakistanis ? Levantines ? Turks/Caucasus ?

If what you want is to say that they look European, I think the ones that look the most could be Bulgarian.

Oliver109
07-08-2023, 12:10 PM
On an individual basis , where do you see Alot of them passing ? Do you see overlap with Tajikistanis ? Iranians ? Indic Pakistanis ? Levantines ? Turks/Caucasus ?

Neighbouring people, only 1 looks really European dunno about levant etc, perhaps Turkey Bulgaria for some

thisismyaccount
07-08-2023, 12:11 PM
I think the first guy with the brown turban is a pashtun, and the governor of Panjshir in picture 13 isnt from Panjshir, but Badakhshan or Takhar(I dont remember which one?).
I suspect the 2 men in black turbans in picture 22 to be pashtuns too, but rest are definitly panjsheris.

Avicenna
07-08-2023, 12:28 PM
If what you want is to say that they look European, I think the ones that look the most could be Bulgarian.

Did I mention any euro groups in that statement? I think you might need to wear some glasses and learn how to read English.

Avicenna
07-08-2023, 12:29 PM
I think the first guy with the brown turban is a pashtun, and the governor of Panjshir in picture 13 isnt from Panjshir, but Badakhshan or Takhar(I dont remember which one?).
I suspect the 2 men in black turbans in picture 22 to be pashtuns too, but rest are definitly panjsheris.

Yeah most likely

Somewhere
07-08-2023, 03:23 PM
I think that around 80% of peoples in that photos are iranid with some alpinids or alpinid influence

aherne
07-09-2023, 06:51 PM
Iranid and almost nothing else

Eurafricanid
07-09-2023, 07:43 PM
Iranid is the main type by faaar, some might have other influences, but Iranid is omnipresent.

Negah
07-15-2023, 11:11 PM
On an individual basis , where do you see Alot of them passing ? Do you see overlap with Tajikistanis ? Iranians ? Indic Pakistanis ? Levantines ? Turks/Caucasus ?

They pass best in West Asia.

Roy
07-15-2023, 11:15 PM
Iranid and almost nothing else

They're not brown though unlike many Persian people and the majority of Pakistanis.

Avicenna
07-16-2023, 09:21 AM
They're not brown though unlike many Persian people and the majority of Pakistanis.

Iranid is not a "brown" phenotype imo , but people are being biased , men in the OP are not only Iranid , but alpines , Iranian nordoids ,.pamirids as well.

This is what usually Iranids in Afghanistan look like ( Alot of the times it's mixed with local alpine , pamirid, nordoids, turanid types)

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eastern
07-16-2023, 09:24 AM
Most look Iranid Afghan (Pashtun, Tajik). Minor influences of Turkic Uzbek, or Hazara. Not as much though. Here and there European passing individuals.

omidjahan
07-16-2023, 10:00 AM
Mainly iranids, alpine iranids, pamirids this guy on the left looks quite French i think
https://i.ibb.co/HqCj1xd/Screenshot-20230708-100503-com-google-android-youtube.jpg

Change cloths and cut the beard you have a french man. THey are mostly Proto-iranid

parsley
07-17-2023, 03:01 PM
Mostly Indo Iranids and small amount of Iranids, North Pontid,Transcaspianids,Armenoids and Asiatic Alpinids

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 03:10 PM
Mostly Indo Iranids and small amount of Iranids, North Pontid,Transcaspianids,Armenoids and Asiatic Alpinids

They are not Indo iranids nor can I see any armenoids. Please can you show me who is Indo Iranid? ( Iranid mixed with Indo brachid )?

parsley
07-17-2023, 03:27 PM
They are not Indo iranids nor can I see any armenoids. Please can you show me who is Indo Iranid? ( Iranid mixed with Indo brachid )?

This is how they look to me. My opinion will not change sorry and no i will not show you people who are indo iranid so you can continue your ignorance

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 03:53 PM
This is how they look to me. My opinion will not change sorry and no i will not show you people who are indo iranid so you can continue your ignorance

Arguing with a stupid delusional person is worse than being stupid itself . Take care .

parsley
07-17-2023, 03:56 PM
Arguing with a stupid delusional person is worse than being stupid itself . Take care .

you are talking about yourself.

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 03:58 PM
you are talking about yourself.

You have yet to provide me valid reasons as to why you think Indo Iranid dominates that group, even refusing to do so, not only that but not one single member has said Indo Iranid is present conseidering they have wealth of experience in taxonomy compared to your retarded opinion .

parsley
07-17-2023, 04:08 PM
You have yet to provide me valid reasons as to why you think Indo Iranid dominates that group, even refusing to do so, not only that but not one single member has said Indo Iranid is present conseidering they have wealth of experience in taxonomy compared to your retarded opinion .

You're the one with the retarded views on taxonomy and I hope you keep it that way. Keep thinking Afghans look pure Iranidz lolz...

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 04:15 PM
You're the one with the retarded views on taxonomy and I hope you keep it that way. Keep thinking Afghans look pure Iranidz lolz...

You are honestly retarded . So now afghans are not Iranid ? Hahahaha you are a turd.

parsley
07-17-2023, 04:22 PM
You are honestly retarded . So now afghans are not Iranid ? Hahahaha you are a turd.

get your head out of your ass xD

I didn't say Afghans were not Iranid in any way, I just said they didn't look like pure Iranids. stop twisting my words.

And needless to say you're retarded and scumbag, you already are.

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 04:33 PM
I didn't say Afghans were not Iranid in any way, I just said they didn't look like pure Iranids. stop twisting my words.

And needless to say you're retarded and scumbag, you already are.

You dont even know what a pure iranid is, you cannot even fathom what a Indo Iranid actually looks like you mongrel . People in OP are a mixture of Iranids and other types like pamirid , Irano nordoids. I don't see any Indo Iranid among them, for that you would have to go to places like nangarhar in Afghanistan and KPK in nortwest pakistan.

Then again, what does a Malay austronesian would know about Afghans.

parsley
07-17-2023, 04:37 PM
You dont even know what a pure iranid is, you cannot even fathom what a Indo Iranid actually looks like you mongrel . People in OP are a mixture of Iranids and other types like pamirid , Irano nordoids. I don't see any Indo Iranid among them, for that you would have to go to places like nangarhar in Afghanistan and KPK in nortwest pakistan.

Then again, what does a Malay austronesian would know about Afghans.

I know a million times better than you what pure iranid is and also how do you know I'm mongrel speak for yourself, most afghans are mongrel actually.

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 04:38 PM
I know a million times better than you what pure iranid is and also how do you know I'm mongrel speak for yourself, most afghans are mongrel actually.

"A million times " oh really? And how so? You wouldn't know a Iranid if it slapped your little face lol. Why are you even here? Go and take your shitty opinion elsewhere.

parsley
07-17-2023, 04:50 PM
"A million times " oh really?

exactly.


You wouldn't know a Iranid if it slapped your little face lol. Why are you even here? Go and take your shitty opinion elsewhere.
you don't even know what i look like you small headed Indo Iranid boy xD


Why are you even here? Go and take your shitty opinion elsewhere.

I'm here to classification. what are you doing here? Not for doing OWD? And I think you definitely OWD are.

Avicenna
07-17-2023, 05:52 PM
exactly.


you don't even know what i look like you small headed Indo Iranid boy xD



I'm here to classification. what are you doing here? Not for doing OWD? And I think you definitely OWD are.

Must be a sock account with terms like OWD, you don't even know me and you are claiming I'm OWD? Based on the fact that I think Afghans are Iranid? I swear has this forum really come to this? What happened to real quality members who actually had a valuable opinion and not some fools throwing terms around. Fuck me this forum has gone dwindled down so much .

Beowulf
07-17-2023, 05:59 PM
I'm not good at non euro phenotypes but i would try:

Iranids, Proto Iranids,i think East Alpinids, Pamirids some indo iranids.