Vojvodina IllustrativeDNA results

[Jana]

Ethnically German, Serb, Greek and Hungarian from Vršac (Banat) and Zemun (Syrmia).

https://i.imgur.com/PvsGRj1.png
https://i.imgur.com/2Isv9Yx.png
https://i.imgur.com/bYPcmeD.png

ethnic map of Vojvodina in 1910
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Linguistic_map_of_Vojvodina%2C_1910.png

[Far_away]

Vidi ti to neko iz mog grada radio test :cool:
Very interesting results ;)

[Jana]

^^It's my grandmother sister actually xD

[Dušan]

This result is not very common in Vojvodina, why that has title that suggest it is widespread here?

[Jana]

This result is not very common in Vojvodina, why that has title that suggest it is widespread here?

Title doesn't suggest anything except in your head. It is fitting because individual in question can't be ethnically classfied and represents mix typical for Vojvodina only.

[majevica]

Nice results, basically like someone who is half Serb half Northern French

[MandM]

My father was born i Vršac, but not quite the same results

[Mortimer]

^^It's my grandmother sister actually xD

I remember when you said your grandmother was sephardi jew, when you became more racist, you changed to greek. I dont have any problem with jews, and jews are part of vojvodina, but you seem to lie and be ashamed of it. I doubt you didnt know she is not a jew, you seemed quite sure and it isnt really that distant to not know it like 1/8 usually people know that.

[Jana]

Nice results, basically like someone who is half Serb half Northern French

Exactly. She clusters basically halfway between Alsatians and Serbs.


My father was born i Vršac, but not quite the same results

Ofcourse. Such heavy mix wasn't the norm even in early 20th century when Vojvodina was more multiethnic. Especially Greek part, that's pretty exotic even for Vojvodina.

[Jana]

I remember when you said your grandmother was sephardi jew, when you became more racist, you changed to greek. I dont have any problem with jews, and jews are part of vojvodina, but you seem to lie and be ashamed of it. I doubt you didnt know she is not a jew, you seemed quite sure and it isnt really that distant to not know it like 1/8 usually people know that.

Taking drugs?

[Voskos]

Do you happen to know who runs this site? I clicked their privacy policy and it's 3 damn lines.

[Jana]

Do you happen to know who runs this site? I clicked their privacy policy and it's 3 damn lines.

I don't know, but they officialy cooperate with Davidski.

[CommonSense]

There are many people with unusual ancestry combinations in Vojvodina, as even Bulgarians, Poles and Czechs can be found there. Even a settlement of Catalans briefly existed in the 18th century.

[Varda]

^^It's my grandmother sister actually xD

Your Greek ancestry could be actually Aromanian. Greeks never lived in Vojvodina, i don't count Greek pro-communist refugees in Maglić who were present there only few years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglić,_Serbia). Aromanians are recorded in Vojvodina since 18th century. Many Aromanians in Vojvodina and Serbia introduced themselves as Greeks for two reasons: large part of arrived as already partly helenized, and to be better accepted by locals. Sometimes in Serbian areas Aromanian newcomers claimed they are Serbs from Macedonia. Serbian actor Nikola Đuričko (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Đuričko) is from Banat, his paternal ancestor is recorded as Aromanian there in 18th century. Đuričko is some branch of J1 which exist in Aromanians, i have seen that recently at Poreklo.

[Jana]

Your Greek ancestry could be actually Aromanian. Greeks never lived in Vojvodina, i don't count Greek pro-communist refugees in Maglić who were present there only few years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglić,_Serbia). Aromanians are recorded in Vojvodina since 18th century. Many Aromanians in Vojvodina and Serbia introduced themselves as Greeks for two reasons: large part of arrived as already partly helenized, and to be better accepted by locals. Sometimes in Serbian areas Aromanian newcomers claimed they are Serbs from Macedonia. Serbian actor Nikola Đuričko (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Đuričko) is from Banat, his paternal ancestor is recorded as Aromanian there in 18th century. Đuričko is some branch of J1 which exist in Aromanians, i have seen that recently at Poreklo.

No, I don't have Aromanian ancestry. My family from this side belonged to high class and Greek ancestor was individual immigrant, not a local peasant with Greek name and surname.

However, this Greek 1/8 was genetically similar to Aromanians. It was mainland Greek based on her AncestryDNA results.

[Jana]

There are many people with unusual ancestry combinations in Vojvodina, as even Bulgarians, Poles and Czechs can be found there. Even a settlement of Catalans briefly existed in the 18th century.

She is most "wog" from my family genetically speaking. Very weird ancestry combination.

But interestingly my mother who is just one generation away inherited extremely little from this like mix.

I for example don't even score Germanic nor East Med extra, almoat like I never inherited anything from this side of family.

[Varda]

No, I don't have Aromanian ancestry. My family from this side belonged to high class and Greek ancestor was individual immigrant, not a local peasant with Greek name and surname.

However, this Greek 1/8 was genetically similar to Aromanians. It was mainland Greek based on her AncestryDNA results.

Aromanians in Serbia/Vojvodina were not peasants. They were merchants and artisans and lived in urban settlements. They participated (together with Serbs who were engaged in the same professions) in the formation of the Serbian civil class in Vojvodina in 18th century and Serbia south of Sava and Danube in 19th century.

[Jana]

Aromanians in Serbia/Vojvodina were not peasants. They were merchants and artisans and lived in urban settlements. They participated (together with Serbs who were engaged in the same professions) in the formation of the Serbian civil class in Vojvodina in 18th century and Serbia south of Sava and Danube in 19th century.

Whatever, this person was Greek so Aromanian discussion is pointless. And she has more Albanian than Aromanian matches (I didn't notice any).

[Varda]

Whatever, this person was Greek so Aromanian discussion is pointless. And she has more Albanian than Aromanian matches (I didn't notice any).

I forgot to mention that Serbs in the past first Aromanians who arrived in their areas called Arnauti and Albanezi which literally means Albanians https://youtu.be/ATppSg3f560?t=9
250-300 years Serbs did not differentiate Aromanians from Albanians. Maybe together with Aromanians in Vojvodina/Serbia arrived some real Albanians of Orthodox confession. Maybe you have Albo ancestry. :)

[Jana]

I forgot to mention that Serbs in the past first Aromanians who arrived in their areas called Arnauti and Albanezi which literally means Albanians https://youtu.be/ATppSg3f560?t=9
250-300 years Serbs did not differentiate Aromanians from Albanians. Maybe together with Aromanians in Vojvodina/Serbia arrived some real Albanians of Orthodox confession. Maybe you have Albo ancestry. :)

I don't have Albo ancestry outside of norm for mainland Greeks. She gets most matches in Ionian Islands, west Greece and Peloponnese which was settled by Arvanites in the past. Nothing unusual about it.

Mainland Greeks have lots of Arvanite, Vlach and Bulgarian blood.

[Kiel]

Where does she end up on the north europe PCA?

[Jana]

Where does she end up on the north europe PCA?

Nowhere! Basically in no-man's land, half way between Serbs/Montenegrins and Alsatians/Austrians

[Jana]

posting her AncestryDNA results just to shame Mortimer.

https://i.imgur.com/j4frrWI.png

[Mortimer]

posting her AncestryDNA results just to shame Mortimer.

https://i.imgur.com/j4frrWI.png

Why do you believe AncestryDNA rather than what you know? You seemed to know that your mother is part jewish. I remember when you said it. If she is sephardi she might not score ashkenazi though but cyprus/greece or aegan or whatever, or iberian maybe

[Mortimer]

Taking drugs?

I know what you said, im not taking drugs. You seemed as if you know it and it was the grandmother of your grandmother or something who was jewish, you seemed to know that though. Did you changed your mind because of ancestrydna? in aherne it is also not visible that he is german, but he always knew he is german. He seems to be just a "romanian".

[Mortimer]

Sorry you said Ashkenazi Hungarian Jew not Sephardi... but it could hide somewhere else or just be wrong not detected, like it doesnt detect aherne to be german...


My grand-grand grandmother was Hungarian Askhenazi Jew from Budapest. She was short, gracile, fair skinned, with raven black curly hair and deep blue eyes.
I think she was stereotypical Central European Jew and could fit very well in Sicily/Greece/southern Italy. But surely not middle eastern looking, most Askhenazi are distinct enough from their Levantine counterparts.

[Jana]

Why do you believe AncestryDNA rather than what you know? You seemed to know that your mother is part jewish. I remember when you said it. If she is sephardi she might not score ashkenazi though but cyprus/greece or aegan or whatever, or iberian maybe

Are you mentally retarded? It's Greek, not Jewish. What's not clear to you, Gypo? I mention Greek ancestry for several years already. And no, Sephardics won't score Greece, fat fuck. Ancestry isn't Myheritage.

[Jana]

Sorry you said Ashkenazi Hungarian Jew not Sephardi... but it could hide somewhere else or just be wrong not detected, like it doesnt detect aherne to be german...

When was that from, 2014? :laugh:

As mentioned above, I got Greek ancestry confirmed several years ago, and now with DNA test.

I don't have any Ashknenazi, Sephardic or Jewish ancestry nor matches whatsoever. And no, AJ ancestry cannot go undetected with Ancestry test. It's fantasy, impossible.

Sorry to dissapoint your greasy fat ass, I have no Jew blood but Greek instead. Deal with it and fuck off.