New! Feiichy G25 ancient Slavic calculator scaled v2.4

[rothaer]

New! Feiichy G25 ancient Slavic calculator scaled v2.4

Courtesy of Feiichy. Suitable for Balkans and Central Europe. Improved by recently published ancient samples from Albania for Palaeo Balkan and a switch to more representative references for Celtic-like.
Aggregate: yes.

(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009,0.126344,0.127 957,0.067127,0.070737,0.042162,0.02008,0.011281,0. 014999,-0.001023,-0.032802,-0.001949,-0.01124,0.017542,0.01968,-0.012893,0.007558,0.011604,0.00114,0.005782,0.0115 06,-0.010357,0.003091,0.007765,-0.008796,-0.001676
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011,0.125205,0.129 988,0.078818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0 .006692,0.005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.148267, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.141159, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916
Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.138 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0.1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036
Finnic-like:Udmurt11,0.102441,-0.021326,0.081458,0.067507,-0.032006,0.007809,0.011986,0.007384,-0.011453,-0.037723,0.022247,-0.001199,0.013082,-0.038672,-0.009365,-0.006762,-0.00352,0.00266,-0.010182,-0.014382,0.006738,0.000866,-0.008134,0.010001,-0.002754
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%,0.132035 ,0.128972,0.076178,0.057494,0.04647,0.021196,0.006 815,0.011769,0.001227,-0.01221,-0.002436,-0.002398,0.000595,-0.009083,0.020765,0.0118,-0.010431,0.005701,0.006159,0.005753,0.013102,0.003 833,0,0.013496,-0.00012
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%,0.133173, 0.128972,0.068259,0.062662,0.035699,0.019522,0.002 585,0.009923,0.001432,-0.005832,0.001137,0.008992,-0.005946,-0.006881,0.024158,0.006232,-0.008084,-0.000253,-0.003017,0.009004,0.003244,0.005193,0.001109,0.014 219,0.003353
Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%,0.130897, 0.131003,0.057699,0.06137,0.044008,0.011713,0.0051 7,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%,0.122929,0 .139128,0.070144,0.067184,0.038469,0.018128,0.0061 1,0.006461,-0.000205,-0.009294,-0.000974,-0.00015,-0.008474,-0.00055,0.017372,-0.006629,-0.022296,0.005954,0.005908,-0.004627,0.015597,0.000742,0.007395,0.008555,0.002 634
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838
Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%,0.135449, 0.132019,0.070144,0.04845,0.037238,0.013945,0.0079 9,0.020307,0.005522,0.002551,-0.013478,-0.001649,-0.005798,-0.004404,0.02348,0.005171,-0.023208,0.005321,0.004777,-0.003502,0.008735,0.008903,-0.00493,0.003615,0.001078
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839,0.120652,0.151314,0.013953,-0.037468,0.030159,-0.012271,-0.001175,-0.001615,0.006136,0.025149,-0.004222,0.003897,-0.015609,0.002202,-0.019815,-0.007425,0.008605,0.006461,0.00817,-0.014257,-0.007112,0.002968,0.006039,-0.003735,-0.000599
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195,0.072847,-0.144205,0.035449,-0.000969,-0.045855,-0.02008,0.009165,0.004154,-0.014112,-0.011299,-0.006008,-0.006594,-0.001189,-0.013349,0.004072,0.00053,0.005476,0.002914,-0.005405,0.007879,-0.012104,0.000495,-0.011339,-0.006386,-0.004191

[rothaer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085
39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
39.0 Germanic
19.2 Celtic-like
1.8 Graeco-Roman
0.2 Finnic-like

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.1985% / 0.01198534
71.0 Germanic
29.0 (Balto-)Slavic

[ZeDude]

Target: ZeDude
Distance: 1.5621% / 0.01562101
40.0 Palaeo-Balkan
20.2 Graeco-Roman
15.0 (Balto-)Slavic
11.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
10.8 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
3.0 Germanic



Target: Mother
Distance: 2.2387% / 0.02238655
37.8 Palaeo-Balkan
29.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
19.0 Graeco-Roman
7.0 Celtic-like
6.6 Germanic
0.4 Finnic-like

[Voskos]

Simulated coordinates.
Target:
Distance: 2.5112% / 0.02511210
55.2 Graeco-Roman
21.2 Palaeo-Balkan
18.6 Celtic-like
5.0 Germanic

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.1806% / 0.03180581
51.8 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
25.4 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
22.4 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.4 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.1279% / 0.03127851
45.2 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
30.2 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
24.6 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839


Target: Gallop_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 392.6960% / 3.92695953
100.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 0.9842% / 0.00984152
57.6 (Balto-)Slavic
34.4 Germanic
5.6 Graeco-Roman
2.4 Celtic-like

It looks pretty similar
https://i.ibb.co/nLD4X1j/cass-admix-merged.png (https://ibb.co/BCgvh6B)

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.5849% / 0.02584943
82.4 Celtic-like
17.6 Palaeo-Balkan

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.0256% / 0.03025613
60.8 Celtic-like
39.2 Palaeo-Balkan

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.6576% / 0.02657599
88.0 Celtic-like
12.0 Palaeo-Balkan

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 3.3109% / 0.03310862
87.4 Celtic-like
12.6 Palaeo-Balkan

[Abriekman]

Target: Abriekman_dad_scaled ( Polish_Ukraine )
Distance: 1.7532% / 0.01753186 | R4P
40.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
37.6 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
11.2 Graeco-Roman
11.0 Germanic

Target: Abriekman_mom_scaled ( 3/4 North Slavic 1/4 Bulgarian )
Distance: 2.5813% / 0.02581308 | R4P
31.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
23.4 (Balto-)Slavic
23.0 Graeco-Roman
22.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001

Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 2.0166% / 0.02016632 | R5P
49.6 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
24.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
17.4 Graeco-Roman
5.0 Celtic-like
3.6 Finnic-like

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_scaled(sim)
Distance: 1.0702% / 0.01070167
31.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
31.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
16.6 (Balto-)Slavic
13.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
5.0 Palaeo-Balkan
2.4 Germanic
0.8 Turkic

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.0977% / 0.01097721
39.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
21.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.2 Germanic
16.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
5.8 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.8 Turkic
0.2 Palaeo-Balkan

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0160% / 0.01599708
59.0 Celtic-like
24.4 Palaeo-Balkan
13.0 Germanic
3.6 Graeco-Roman

With Iberian added:

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0119% / 0.01189758
56.3 Iberian
21.1 Germanic
11.7 Palaeo-Balkan
4.9 Graeco-Roman
3.9 Celtic-like
2.1 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001

[Vitez]

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.4387% / 0.01438731
25.2 (Balto-)Slavic
24.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
15.0 Palaeo-Balkan
12.2 Celtic-like
12.2 Graeco-Roman
6.0 Germanic
3.4 Finnic-like
1.6 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001

[paradox]

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.8045% / 0.01804478
34.8 Graeco-Roman
31.6 Palaeo-Balkan
24.6 (Balto-)Slavic
8.2 Germanic
0.8 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.0683% / 0.02068288
40.6 Palaeo-Balkan
29.8 (Balto-)Slavic
13.6 Graeco-Roman
9.4 Germanic
4.2 Celtic-like
2.4 Finnic-like

[Jana]

Labeling is untidy and needs to be fixed. Also I would personally add another Slavic sample. Thanks for improving Paleo Balkan and especially Celtic references, roth! It's a big improvement.

[Jana]

Croatian genetic averages :

Target: Croat_Main
Distance: 0.0134% / 0.01340573

58.6 (Balto-)Slavic
22.6 Palaeo-Balkan
11.3 Graeco-Roman
3.8 Celtic-like
3.7 Germanic

Target: Croat_North
Distance: 0.0078% / 0.00781955

52.0 (Balto-)Slavic
29.0 Germanic
11.0 Palaeo-Balkan
6.2 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Turkic

[mariusz99]

Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.4306% / 0.01430642
46.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
24.6 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
21.4 Germanic
4.4 Celtic-like
2.2 Turkic
1.2 (Balto-)Slavic

[Jana]

Target: Feiichy_scaled_AncestryDNA
Distance: 0.0179% / 0.01789796

59.3 (Balto-)Slavic
23.3 Palaeo-Balkan
11.2 Celtic-like
4.2 Graeco-Roman
1.3 Germanic
0.7 Turkic

Target: Feiichy_scaled_MyHeritage
Distance: 0.0176% / 0.01755940

62.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.9 Palaeo-Balkan
5.2 Celtic-like
2.9 Germanic
2.8 Graeco-Roman

Target: Feiichy_scaled_23_andme
Distance: 0.0184% / 0.01836825

57.4 (Balto-)Slavic
24.9 Palaeo-Balkan
10.1 Celtic-like
3.5 Germanic
3.3 Graeco-Roman
0.8 Turkic

[Selene]

Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 1.6357% / 0.01635657
61.2 (Balto-)Slavic
25.4 Palaeo-Balkan
7.4 Graeco-Roman
3.6 Germanic
2.4 Turkic

[Jana]

Tested Stears out of curiosity:

Target: Stears (HUN)_scaled
Distance: 0.0105% / 0.01054691

45.7 (Balto-)Slavic
23.7 Germanic
16.5 Graeco-Roman
7.6 Palaeo-Balkan
4.8 Turkic
1.7 Celtic-like

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.4483% / 0.02448266
41.4 Graeco-Roman
19.8 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
14.2 Germanic
14.0 Celtic-like
8.4 Turkic
2.2 Palaeo-Balkan

[Peterski]

Also I would personally add another Slavic sample.

Maybe something from the newly published Polish paper's samples?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?375239-I-became-Germanic-overnight!&p=7762947&viewfull=1#post7762947

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?28606-Genomic-history-of-present-day-Poland/page8&p=939790#post939790

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.5354% / 0.01535444
44.2 (Balto-)Slavic
26.6 Germanic
21.8 Palaeo-Balkan
7.4 Celtic-like

[Jana]

deleted

[Jana]

it works! I finally get Germanic, with my high quality Ancestry/23andme V4 data. I should since I'm 1/8 German.

Target: Feiichy_scaled_AncestryDNA
Distance: 0.0160% / 0.01602905

55.5 (Balto-)Slavic
30.5 Palaeo-Balkan
7.2 Germanic
5.1 Celtic-like
1.7 Graeco-Roman

Target: Feiichy_scaled_23_andme
Distance: 0.0180% / 0.01797334

53.4 (Balto-)Slavic
28.2 Palaeo-Balkan
9.0 Celtic-like
6.5 Germanic
2.1 Graeco-Roman
0.8 Turkic

[Selene]

Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 1.2695% / 0.01269475
54.4 (Balto-)Slavic
31.2 Palaeo-Balkan
7.2 Germanic
4.0 Graeco-Roman
2.0 Finnic-like
1.2 Turkic

[Vitez]

it works! I finally get Germanic, with my high quality Ancestry/23andme V4 data. I should since I'm 1/8 German.

Target: Feiichy_scaled_AncestryDNA
Distance: 0.0160% / 0.01602905

55.5 (Balto-)Slavic
30.5 Palaeo-Balkan
7.2 Germanic
5.1 Celtic-like
1.7 Graeco-Roman

Target: Feiichy_scaled_23_andme
Distance: 0.0180% / 0.01797334

53.4 (Balto-)Slavic
28.2 Palaeo-Balkan
9.0 Celtic-like
6.5 Germanic
2.1 Graeco-Roman
0.8 Turkic

I have no known German ancestry but I get some Germanic percentage and a lot of Celtic.
Would it be possible that I have a recent North Croat ancestor ?

[Jana]

I have no known German ancestry but I get some Germanic percentage and a lot of Celtic.
Would it be possible that I have a recent North Croat ancestor ?

Yes. But even north Croat ancestry isn't necessary, just pre-Ottoman local from your region.
I have sample of autochtnous Croat from Zrin which is near your area, they aren't north Croats and she scored lot of German like input.

Before Turks maybe there was Kajkavian substratum as far south as modern Bosnian border.

[Jana]

Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 1.2695% / 0.01269475
54.4 (Balto-)Slavic
31.2 Palaeo-Balkan
7.2 Germanic
4.0 Graeco-Roman
2.0 Finnic-like
1.2 Turkic

Me and you always score similar with minor differences, and are about in middle of Croatian cluster due to our regional mixed ancestry :p :love:

[Annihilus]

first one
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.3030% / 0.03303003
66.2 Graeco-Roman
12.8 Germanic
11.8 (Balto-)Slavic
5.0 Turkic
4.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011

second one
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.2130% / 0.03213045
63.8 Graeco-Roman
16.4 (Balto-)Slavic
11.4 Germanic
5.0 Turkic
3.4 Palaeo-Balkan

the germanic is weird

[Vitez]

With the new samples
Balkan went up and Roman went down

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.3481% / 0.01348066
47.6 (Balto-)Slavic
20.0 Palaeo-Balkan
13.4 Celtic-like
9.6 Graeco-Roman
5.4 Germanic
4.0 Finnic-like

[MandM]

Dont know were the Germanic comes from..but hey why not hehe

Target: Wify
Distance: 2.2100% / 0.02209996
48.2 (Balto-)Slavic
24.2 Palaeo-Balkan
13.2 Graeco-Roman
11.4 Celtic-like
3.0 Germanic

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.2004% / 0.02200385
53.4 Palaeo-Balkan
28.4 (Balto-)Slavic
10.6 Germanic
6.6 Graeco-Roman
1.0 Turkic

[Gergő Marosvári]

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.1047% / 0.01104732
35.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
19.0 Graeco-Roman
17.8 Germanic
16.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
4.4 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
3.6 Turkic
2.6 Palaeo-Balkan
1.2 Finnic-like

[rothaer]

Labeling is untidy and needs to be fixed. Also I would personally add another Slavic sample. Thanks for improving Paleo Balkan and especially Celtic references, roth! It's a big improvement.

Sorry! I missed to check the box “disable smileys”!

If now re-done, the aggregation will work.

[Peterski]

I was actually thinking Polish Cedynia VA that's pure Balto-Slavic and clusters with Belarusians.

Here is Cedynia VA:


Medieval_Cedynia:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424, 0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.006 34,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479

[Kiel]

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.1435% / 0.01143537
46.0 Germanic
23.2 Celtic-like
13.4 (Balto-)Slavic
10.6 Graeco-Roman
6.8 Palaeo-Balkan

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0821% / 0.02082123
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
45.0 Palaeo-Balkan
1.8 Finnic-like
0.6 Turkic

[Jana]

Here is Cedynia VA:


Medieval_Cedynia:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424, 0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.006 34,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479

Distance to: Medieval_Cedynia:VK212
0.02470261 Belarusian
0.02643228 Russian_Smolensk
0.02828923 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.02905136 Lithuanian_PA
0.02972482 Lithuanian
0.03049418 Lithuanian_VA
0.03089218 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03101882 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03103757 Lithuanian_VZ
0.03144912 Russian_Pskov
0.03156080 Russian_Voronezh
0.03170905 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03173192 Russian_Moscow
0.03176821 Lithuanian_RA
0.03288209 Ukrainian
0.03382922 Russian_Kaluga
0.03425558 Russian_Orel
0.03465966 Ukrainian_Donetsk
0.03518435 Russian_Belgorod
0.03518652 Lithuanian_SZ
0.03524762 Ukrainian_Poltava
0.03536528 Russian_Kursk
0.03542572 Polish
0.03628007 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03686355 Cossack_Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia

[MandM]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0821% / 0.02082123
52.6 (Balto-)Slavic
45.0 Palaeo-Balkan
1.8 Finnic-like
0.6 Turkic

Dont you usally get some Greek?

[Dušan]

Dont you usally get some Greek?

Yes. This time Albo sample took all pre-Slavic. :(

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 1.9547% / 0.01954747
34.6 Palaeo-Balkan
34.2 (Balto-)Slavic
15.6 Germanic
8.6 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Celtic-like
2.8 Turkic

Target: Fellow_scaled_simulated23andme
Distance: 1.2588% / 0.01258773
48.8 Palaeo-Balkan
41.0 (Balto-)Slavic
5.2 Graeco-Roman
5.0 Finnic-like

Simulated one is probably more accurate but who knows.

[Jana]

Yes. This time Albo sample took all pre-Slavic. :(

That Albo sample is really good selection, untouched by any Slavic input and seemingly not much East Med either.
I guess Albos got East Med trough mixing with Balkan Slavs later

[Dušan]

That Albo sample is really good selection, untouched by any Slavic input and seemingly not much East Med either.
I guess Albos got East Med trough mixing with Balkan Slavs later

I prefer Roman East Med settlers from Anatolia more than Albo sample.

I will wait for some new samples :coffee:

[Dušan]

....

[majevica]

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 2.3553% / 0.02355325
49.0 (Balto-)Slavic
29.4 Palaeo-Balkan
15.2 Celtic-like
5.0 Graeco-Roman
1.4 Turkic

[Hulu]

Cool. The first time I see Celtic closer than Greco-roman.

Do you have any Tunisian like sample of the time? I am curious to see it on my results.

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.2976% / 0.02297647
61.8 Palaeo-Balkan
19.0 Graeco-Roman
12.4 Celtic-like
5.8 (Balto-)Slavic
1.0 Turkic

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03260783 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.07670257 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.07678727 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.09579660 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.09644868 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.09725908 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.10397255 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.10547097 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.12498485 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.12674575 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.12728529 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.13189904 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.13215541 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.13241932 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.13249959 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.13762317 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.14190301 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.14197542 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.14282417 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.14560719 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.14634687 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.15071841 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.23168903 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
0.30752042 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

[Dušan]

Dont you usally get some Greek?

I checked that sample, it is very close to Greeks.

Distance to: Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.02993933 Greek_Argolis
0.03024213 Greek_Corinthia
0.03035497 Italian_Lazio
0.03122108 Greek_Messenia
0.03146498 Italian_Marche
0.03154259 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03159018 Albanian
0.03168661 Greek_Arcadia
0.03176859 Greek_Achaea
0.03186771 Greek_Laconia


Anyway, my pre-Slavic ancestors were not Albanians, but local Vlachs, who integrated into Serbian society.

[ugochaves]

Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 1.6357% / 0.01635657
61.2 (Balto-)Slavic
25.4 Palaeo-Balkan
7.4 Graeco-Roman
3.6 Germanic
2.4 Turkic
You look like a mixture of Vyatichs and Balkans in Dna. Outwardly - Balkans, Albanians....a very pretty woman, but not a Slav. I'm sorry, you always have to expect this from me.

[Hulu]

You look like a mixture of Vyatichs and Balkans in Dna. Outwardly - Balkans, Albanians....a very pretty woman, but not a Slav. I'm sorry, you always have to expect this from me.

She doesn't look Albanian. It's a foreign look for us.

[ugochaves]

She doesn't look Albanian. It's a foreign look for us.
In Russia, these are other people's eyes. Who is she then? her eyes?

[Hulu]

In Russia, these are other people's eyes. Who is she then? her eyes?

Other slavs? A former Albanian member here called her Polish doll :D

[Jana]

She doesn't look Albanian. It's a foreign look for us.

He's trolling. Just like Ylla looks Albo (Kosovar) while some people think she looks Slavic because they aren't familiar with Albo female phenotypes.

[Jana]

In Russia, these are other people's eyes. Who is she then? her eyes?

Cassie has Med eyes but southern Russians/South-Eastern Ukrainians can have them too.

[Jana]

I prefer Roman East Med settlers from Anatolia more than Albo sample.

I will wait for some new samples :coffee:

:lmao:

[Hulu]

He's trolling. Just like Ylla looks Albo (Kosovar) while some people think she looks Slavic because they aren't familiar with Albo female phenotypes.

What do you think of my results. Is the celtic really celtic or roman like?

[Russki]

You look like a mixture of Vyatichs and Balkans in Dna. Outwardly - Balkans, Albanians....a very pretty woman, but not a Slav. I'm sorry, you always have to expect this from me.


She doesn't look Albanian. Stop bothering her with your stupid comments.

[ugochaves]

She doesn't look Albanian. Stop bothering her with your stupid comments.
Looks like a gypsy, sorry. Beautiful, I do not deny, wonderful, but these are not Slavs.

[Dušan]

Target: Katarzyna_scaled(sim)
Distance: 1.0702% / 0.01070167
31.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
31.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
16.6 (Balto-)Slavic
13.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
5.0 Palaeo-Balkan
2.4 Germanic
0.8 Turkic

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.0977% / 0.01097721
39.2 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
21.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.2 Germanic
16.0 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
5.8 (Balto-)SlavicEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.8 Turkic
0.2 Palaeo-Balkan

Katya, why are you still using simulated, when you got real coords?
You are partly Germanic, deal with it and move on.

[Russki]

Looks like a gypsy, sorry. Beautiful, I do not deny, wonderful, but these are not Slavs.


No one takes you seriously. You're like a second Mortimer on here. A pale gypsy.

[Jana]

What do you think of my results. Is the celtic really celtic or roman like?

Really Celtic you have IMO. There were Celts in southern Balkans like Bulgaria. Celtic here samples are pretty northern and nothing like Roman :p

[PaulieVanZant]

Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.2457% / 0.01245725
71.2 Germanic
18.4 Celtic-like
9.6 (Balto-)Slavic
0.8 Palaeo-Balkan

[Katarzyna]

Katya, why are you still using simulated, when you got real coords?
You are partly Germanic, deal with it and move on.

I show both so that other users who still use their simulated coords will see the difference. And maybe reconsider their decision and buy real ones.

[Voskos]

Cool. The first time I see Celtic closer than Greco-roman.Do you have any Tunisian like sample of the time? I am curious to see it on my results.


Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG,0.0916275,0.150298,-0.024324,-0.0521645,0.008155,-0.021335,0.0034075,-0.0003465,0.006954,0.021048,0.0022735,0.003822,-0.0039395,0.0001375,-0.002375,-0.0028505,0.005411,-0.002154,-6.3e-05,-0.005565,-0.005116,-0.005626,0.00228,0.001145,0.0044305

[Coastal Elite]

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.2867% / 0.01286735
59.6 Germanic
36.4 Palaeo-Balkan
1.8 Finnic-like
1.6 (Balto-)Slavic
0.6 Graeco-Roman

[Hulu]

Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG,0.0916275,0.150298,-0.024324,-0.0521645,0.008155,-0.021335,0.0034075,-0.0003465,0.006954,0.021048,0.0022735,0.003822,-0.0039395,0.0001375,-0.002375,-0.0028505,0.005411,-0.002154,-6.3e-05,-0.005565,-0.005116,-0.005626,0.00228,0.001145,0.0044305

It didn't do much for altering the rest, but it's really close!


Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.2973% / 0.02297323
61.2 Palaeo-Balkan
18.2 Graeco-Roman
12.2 Celtic-like
6.0 (Balto-)Slavic
1.4 Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG
1.0 Turkic

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03260783 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.06033409 Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG
0.07670257 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.07678727 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.08652824 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.09579660 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.09644868 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.09725908 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.10397255 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.10547097 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.12498485 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.12674575 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.12728529 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.13189904 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.13215541 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.13241932 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.13249959 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.13762317 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.14190301 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.14197542 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.14282417 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.14560719 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.14634687 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.15071841 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.23168903 Finnic-like:Udmurt11



Its distances with the other populations in this run

Distance to: Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG
0.05181267 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.06330520 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.11493100 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.11739895 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.13124192 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.13165674 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.13324102 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.13355647 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.13471856 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.15949192 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.16085708 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.16167797 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.16307666 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.16346570 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.16550104 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.16641468 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.16988116 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.17219184 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.17545160 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.18236362 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.18592277 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.18685305 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.18865762 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.25388926 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
0.31432147 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

[Nausevar]

Target: Nausevar_scaled
Distance: 2.1734% / 0.02173423
48.0 Palaeo-Balkan
41.0 (Balto-)Slavic
6.2 Germanic
4.4 Graeco-Roman
0.4 Turkic

[Nausevar]

it works! I finally get Germanic, with my high quality Ancestry/23andme V4 data. I should since I'm 1/8 German.

I get 6.2 Germanic and I'm 0/8 german. Either you're not 1/8 german or the calculator isn't that good. For sure my ancient slavic ancestors were not more germanic admixed than yours.

[Jana]

I get 6.2 Germanic and I'm 0/8 german. Either you're not 1/8 german or the calculator isn't that good. For sure my ancient slavic ancestors were not more germanic admixed than yours.

Nonsense.

I have my grandmother sister tested and she is genetically half German half Balkan. I simply didn't inherit much from that side, neither did my mother.

Dalmatian hinterland had some Goths in the past. I don't see nothing shocking about that. There is some Germanic in Montenegro too.

[Erronkari]

Target: Wog_scaled
Distance: 4.4468% / 0.04446804
89.2 Celtic-like
5.4 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Turkic
1.2 Palaeo-Balkan

Distance to: Wog_scaled
0.05238440 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.05720428 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.05841136 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.05861165 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.05919895 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.06907894 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.07612793 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.08606983 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.08680170 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.08835140 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.09007334 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.09410621 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.09511194 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.09593098 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.09689006 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.10022860 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.10546800 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.11090601 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.12823844 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.13150091 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.13531968 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.13863449 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.14245348 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.21374224 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
0.29969641 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

[gixajo]

Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG,0.0916275,0.150298,-0.024324,-0.0521645,0.008155,-0.021335,0.0034075,-0.0003465,0.006954,0.021048,0.0022735,0.003822,-0.0039395,0.0001375,-0.002375,-0.0028505,0.005411,-0.002154,-6.3e-05,-0.005565,-0.005116,-0.005626,0.00228,0.001145,0.0044305

Not a very Berber individual...

Target: Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG
Distance: 0.8535% / 0.00853547 | ADC: 1x RC
40.2 Sephardic_Jew
37.0 Greek_Crete
12.2 Italian_Apulia
4.2 Romaniote_Jew
3.6 Italian_Calabria
2.8 Ashkenazi_Poland


Distance to: Algeria_NumidoRoman_Berber.SG
0.02185887 Italian_Apulia:Pu8
0.02239588 Italian_Calabria:ALP129
0.02241083 Sephardic_Jew:SephardicJew4953
0.02303895 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_12
0.02344902 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote5
0.02382788 Greek_Crete:766
0.02394515 Italian_Campania:NaN275IS
0.02503343 Italian_Calabria:ALP596
0.02507094 Italian_Campania:NaN77FAM
0.02546497 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew1
0.02601759 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote2
0.02628449 Italian_Campania:CMP_b001_2
0.02667523 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_6
0.02705547 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew9
0.02723684 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew3
0.02730353 Greek_Crete:Crete7
0.02736895 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_4
0.02745312 Sephardic_Jew:GRC12118122
0.02749918 Italian_Calabria:ALP582
0.02754371 Sephardic_Jew:sephardic14bul
0.02767649 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_3
0.02792639 Ashkenazi_Germany:Ashk_DE_DE_1
0.02819237 Italian_Calabria:PG2012_398
0.02819338 Ashkenazi_Poland:Ashk_PL_PL_27
0.02838347 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew2

[rothaer]

Interesting:

https://i.imgur.com/ZfyzHQz.jpg

[Russki]

Interesting:

https://i.imgur.com/ZfyzHQz.jpg


The flaw is that the "Finnic-like" (actually Finno-Permic) is an Udmurt reference and the Udmurts have a driftless NW European substrate which is not a good fit for the populations mostly formed around the Baltic Bronze Age.

After adding other Finno-Permic references both Udmurt and Ottoman references undergo a 100% replacement.


https://sun9-7.userapi.com/impg/w6Xs0jcWDV1mNwUVoQU9KskL3_oiF9zjkyZ4MQ/hT5lpkK0C-o.jpg?size=900x430&quality=95&sign=8d1ffe0316d271ea3c55058fb8974803&type=album


You can also notice how Finno-Permic references tweak Germanic and Celtic percentages, but the NW European substrate in Finno-Permic speakers is a topic for a separate thread.


https://sun9-78.userapi.com/impg/WcNKvoDACp8Wf0r8al6UNpWhEUWHQQiXqu2jCA/Dc022TLDnWs.jpg?size=550x870&quality=95&sign=f1435e7368a64868dcc54a2e6b6c1c19&type=album

[Dušan]

Results of Serbs from Rothaer's database.

https://i.imgur.com/YLvNaKx.png

[lockdownboredom]

Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 3.0816% / 0.03081567
57.2 Palaeo-Balkan
22.4 (Balto-)Slavic
13.4 Graeco-Roman
7.0 Celtic-like

Target: Nephew
Distance: 2.2667% / 0.02266732
72.8 Palaeo-Balkan
14.0 (Balto-)Slavic
13.2 Graeco-Roman

[MandM]

Results of Serbs from Rothaer's database.

https://i.imgur.com/YLvNaKx.png

Didint Hazmatik say he hade or he belived he had Aromanian or Albanian ancestors? Or was he just refering to his HG dont really remember or am I confusing him with someone else?

[rothaer]

The flaw is that the "Finnic-like" (actually Finno-Permic) is an Udmurt reference and the Udmurts have a driftless NW European substrate which is not a good fit for the populations mostly formed around the Baltic Bronze Age.

After adding other Finno-Permic references both Udmurt and Ottoman references undergo a 100% replacement.

https://sun9-7.userapi.com/impg/w6Xs0jcWDV1mNwUVoQU9KskL3_oiF9zjkyZ4MQ/hT5lpkK0C-o.jpg?size=900x430&quality=95&sign=8d1ffe0316d271ea3c55058fb8974803&type=album

I once also tested with pops like Moksha and Eryza and I found similar results. They look bouncy (arbitrary). Or do you consider it correct that some ethnic Russians (that all plot together in the N Europe PCA; the ultimate enlightment would be yielded by siblings) have 50-60% of that and others zero? In contrast to this the Turk interpretation gives consistent results where the results of Russians resemble each others. It doesn't imply it's correct but I don't yet see it disproved.

It may be an evenly distributed elevated ANE proportion that expresses that way. The 10kybp calculator does not interpret it as East Asian but prefers to deal with it as (elevated) EHG.

[Jana]

Here is Russian pre Slavic substrate average from recent genetic paper. Might be useful?


VolgaOka_IA,0.1152459,0.0307198,0.0921116,0.088179 ,0.0026158,0.0160015,0.0117212,0.0158648,-0.00565,-0.0413678,0.0132145,-0.0100972,0.0231725,0.0002409,-0.0129442,-0.00121,0.0021512,-0.001346,-0.0039438,0.002345,0.0038838,-0.0019321,0.0021412,-0.0068834,0.0008382

Individual samples:


RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL001,0.112685,0.026404,0.084098, 0.089148,0.007078,0.01255,0.016921,0.019384,-0.011453,-0.04155,0.006658,-0.012739,0.02215,0.001514,-0.009229,-0.016043,-0.010431,-0.006081,-0.008296,0.001251,0.003494,-0.001113,-0.003574,-0.022654,0.003832
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL002,0.112685,0.014217,0.097674, 0.097546,-0.001539,0.014223,0.014806,0.014076,-0.001227,-0.035901,0.015914,-0.005095,0.014271,-0.017065,-0.00855,-0.001724,-0.000522,0.001014,-0.003017,0.001751,0.003119,0.002597,0.00419,-0.003374,-0.001317
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL004,0.10927,0.00914,0.098051,0. 090117,-0.00954,0.013945,0.011986,0.019615,-0.001432,-0.034443,0.013153,-0.01139,0.018137,-0.007432,-0.012351,-0.008618,-0.014342,0.001647,0.000503,0.004752,0.007861,-0.004328,-0.003328,0.00241,0.002155
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL005,0.120652,0.036559,0.093903, 0.076551,0.001231,0.013945,0.00705,0.017076,-0.00409,-0.053213,0.015265,-0.010191,0.035381,0.004129,-0.024158,0.000928,0.018515,-0.002407,-0.006034,0.006628,0.00025,-0.00371,0.012078,-0.000602,0.00012
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL006,0.121791,0.066009,0.090132, 0.08721,0.016926,0.026216,0.004935,0.017538,-0.0045,-0.035172,0.012342,-0.007643,0.028246,0.01913,-0.011129,0.006629,0.005346,0.001267,-0.007793,0.001501,0.003244,-0.005441,0.001725,-0.011206,-0.002515
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL007,0.113823,0.032497,0.089755, 0.084303,0.007386,0.00753,0.00987,0.015922,-0.007567,-0.043554,0.014453,-0.012889,0.025421,-0.006881,-0.011943,-0.003713,0.004172,-0.005701,0.005531,0.002251,-0.000499,0.002844,0.002218,-0.004699,-0.000958
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL008,0.113823,0.019295,0.098051, 0.095931,-0.001539,0.018686,0.015276,0.009692,-0.010431,-0.046835,0.016239,-0.01124,0.024975,0.008945,-0.015608,-0.000928,-0.003651,0.004561,-0.008673,0.001251,0.006114,-0.006801,0.001356,-0.015183,0.00012
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL009,0.117238,0.041637,0.085229, 0.084626,0.000923,0.020917,0.012926,0.013615,-0.0045,-0.040274,0.011692,-0.009591,0.016799,-0.000413,-0.010586,0.013789,0.018123,-0.005068,-0.003771,-0.000625,0.007487,0.000495,0.002465,0.000241,0.005 269

[ugochaves]

I once also tested with pops like Moksha and Eryza and I found similar results. They look bouncy (arbitrary). Or do you consider it correct that some ethnic Russians (that all plot together in the N Europe PCA; the ultimate enlightment would be yielded by siblings) have 50-60% of that and others zero? In contrast to this the Turk interpretation gives consistent results where the results of Russians resemble each others. It doesn't imply it's correct but I don't yet see it disproved.

It may be an evenly distributed elevated ANE proportion that expresses that way. The 10kybp calculator does not interpret it as East Asian but prefers to deal with it as (elevated) EHG.
all Russian calculators should use Northeast Asians - Bering Strait. Russians don't have Native Americans. Only Siberia with a small percentage. Me and Russki have about 1-2% of that. I don’t understand why this admixture is in the east of Siberia (Chukchi), and not ngannasans. Otherwise we will get the Turks. Russians also have a Caucasian admixture. I regularly have about 3% or more. Probably, these are Alans mixed with the Volga Finns. The same applies to eastern Ukrainians.

[Jana]

Target: Medieval_Cedynia:VK212
Distance: 0.0233% / 0.02329896

100.0 (Balto-)Slavic

Needs to be added!


Medieval_Cedynia:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424, 0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.006 34,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479

I will again re-test those Polish samples from Peterska link, more samples the better!

We can experiment here and than make new thread with final version of the calc. Turkic sample isn't perfect either, its very Turkic and pretty good but still has minor Anatolian substrate.

[rothaer]

(...) is an Udmurt reference and the Udmurts have a driftless NW European substrate which is not a good fit for the populations mostly formed around the Baltic Bronze Age.

You can also notice how Finno-Permic references tweak Germanic and Celtic percentages (...)

True. The Udmurt reference was introduced by Feiichy in the context of being able to model also Hungarians. But for most other individuals that "Finnic" (-Permic) is simply historically wrong, among them Germans. Removing it actually elevates more Germanic than (Balto-)Slavic.

Do you have an idea what reference could do a better job here?

[Jana]

south Russian result with Volga IA average:

Target: Russian_Orel
Distance: 0.0138% / 0.01375172

81.2 (Balto-)Slavic
8.1 VolgaOka_IA
4.6 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Germanic
1.9 Turkic

central Russian:

Target: Russian_NizhnyNovgorod
Distance: 0.0102% / 0.01022906

70.8 (Balto-)Slavic
21.1 VolgaOka_IA
5.6 Germanic
1.6 Palaeo-Balkan
0.9 Graeco-Roman

North Russian:

Target: Russian_Arkhangelsk_Krasnoborsky
Distance: 0.0121% / 0.01210404

45.8 VolgaOka_IA
37.2 (Balto-)Slavic
15.1 Germanic
1.9 Turkic

Looks plausible to me.

[Jana]

Do you have an idea what reference could do a better job here?

I already found it, check Volga IA! I sugest removal of Finnic like and adding Volga IA, now not sure should we add only average or all individual samples. I can test.

[ugochaves]

True. The Udmurt reference was introduced by Feiichy in the context of being able to model also Hungarians. But for most other individuals that "Finnic" (-Permic) is simply historically wrong, among them Germans. Removing it actually elevates more Germanic than (Balto-)Slavic.

Do you have an idea what reference could do a better job here?
Udmurts are a mixture of Germans and Volga Finns and Caucasians. Interesting people, where are they from?

[ugochaves]

I already found it, check Volga IA! I sugest removal of Finnic like and adding Volga IA, now not sure should we add only average or all individual samples. I can test.
If you add the Bering Strait, the Turks will disappear from the Russians. But it is better to use Pomors. Then the Udmurts and others disappear. Pomors are Pinega - a mixture of Balts and Saami.

[Jana]

Russian Smolensk average is basically devoid of "Volgan" admixture. No wonder Pole like Lucas can be close to it.

Target: Russian_Smolensk
Distance: 0.0129% / 0.01292593

90.5 (Balto-)Slavic
4.1 Germanic
2.1 Graeco-Roman
1.9 VolgaOka_IA
1.4 Turkic

[Jana]

If you add the Bering Strait, the Turks will disappear from the Russians. But it is better to use Pomors. Then the Udmurts and others disappear. Pomors are Pinega - a mixture of Balts and Saami.

We are making calculator that will work for other eastern/central/Balkan Europeans too. We need very mongoloid Turkic samples, something from Kazakh steppe or western China would be ideal IMO.

[ugochaves]

RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven,0.0473788,-0.3565142,0.1162946,0.0476627,-0.1192914,-0.0389401,-0.1203988,-0.1403451,0.0007669,-0.0159799,0.0248759,-0.0064447,0.0098394,-0.0182608,-0.0336502,-0.0148834,-0.0021595,0.0124076,0.0327128,0.0197752,0.0262272,-0.0441054,0.0074489,0.0281062,0.0383199

Russian_Pinega,0.1248257,0.0636397,0.0945317,0.077 52,0.02185,0.023241,0.0118287,0.0146147,0.0013637,-0.0311623,0.007091,-0.0119397,0.0239343,0.011331,-0.0102243,-0.0037567,-0.0039987,-0.0022803,-0.0051957,-0.001042,0.0076117,-0.0001233,0.0019717,-0.0024097,0.0020753

RUS_Alan_MA,0.1099532,0.1045994,-0.025418,-0.0089794,-0.0262818,0.0051316,0.0054522,-0.0072458,-0.0456908,-0.0248206,0.0028256,0.0098314,-0.0166796,-0.0065784,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.0059036,-0.0057318,0.0034768,0.003893,0.006529,0.0015532,-0.0004094,-0.0036644

[Jana]

I found good Turkic sample! Tested, works.


Turkic:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001,0.0694 32,-0.189904,0.032809,0.007106,-0.044008,-0.004183,0.006815,0.01823,-0.011862,-0.010023,-0.021273,-0.002698,0.003271,-0.009358,0.007872,-0.003447,-0.012256,-0.003801,0.00176,0.002126,-0.012478,0.000371,0.005793,-0.005302,-0.010777

I sugest replacing Ottoman sample with it!

[ugochaves]

We are making calculator that will work for other eastern/central/Balkan Europeans too. We need very mongoloid Turkic samples, something from Kazakh steppe or western China would be ideal IMO.
I know. Udmurts are not suitable for anyone. Better Chuvash or Pomors.
Chuvash,0.1095232,-0.0139917,0.0823798,0.0553048,-0.0143274,0.0059498,0.0137092,0.0165377,-0.0097717,-0.0343819,0.0182597,-0.0113733,0.0259826,-0.023243,-0.0261789,-0.0171041,-0.001724,-0.005152,-0.0254607,-0.0221772,0.0078473,0.003325,-0.0326196,0.0060916,-0.0015033

[Jana]

I know. Udmurts are not suitable for anyone. Better Chuvash or Pomors.
Chuvash,0.1095232,-0.0139917,0.0823798,0.0553048,-0.0143274,0.0059498,0.0137092,0.0165377,-0.0097717,-0.0343819,0.0182597,-0.0113733,0.0259826,-0.023243,-0.0261789,-0.0171041,-0.001724,-0.005152,-0.0254607,-0.0221772,0.0078473,0.003325,-0.0326196,0.0060916,-0.0015033

It's not good, modern populations are not suitable. Chuvash have significant Finnic input too.

[Jana]

Turkic sample I found:

Distance to: Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001

0.03503145 Karakalpak
0.04347441 Nogai
0.04776572 Kazakh
0.05746254 Uygur
0.05834737 Tatar_Siberian_Irtysh_Barabinsk
0.05843608 Hazara
0.06179574 Tubalar
0.06224930 Tubalar
0.06309229 Khakass_Kyzils
0.06388411 Kazakh_Russia_Omsk
0.06452970 Kyrgyz_Tajikistan
0.06606805 Kazakh_Xinjiang
0.06771886 Tatar_Siberian_Ishtyak_Toguz
0.06786952 Tatar_Siberian_Buhar
0.07128460 Tatar_Siberian_Iskero-Tobolsk
0.07692585 Tatar_Siberian
0.07851633 Shor
0.07951104 Tatar_Siberian_Tomsk
0.08041564 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
0.08068758 Teleut
0.08105284 Kyrgyz_China
0.08231145 Kyrgyz
0.08239990 Shor_Mountain
0.08524292 Khakass_Sagai
0.08548819 Shor_Khakassia

Target: Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001
Distance: 0.0240% / 0.02404925 | R2P

52.8 Uygur
47.2 Khakass_Kyzils

[Russki]

I ran full list of Anthrogenica and TA members coordinates to see who would score the most VolgaOka_IA.

Snkves(Swedish) is probably not suspectible to Turkic ancestry so calm your guts ugochaves.


https://sun9-29.userapi.com/impg/g3JLsB_wbeTnXCFU_sbo6iwI9v9CaXGK_kQsYA/eALd0UmU9TA.jpg?size=896x861&quality=95&sign=9ad597c769dd014c4eb0278dc54ebc6b&type=album

[ugochaves]

I found good Turkic sample! Tested, works.


Turkic:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001,0.0694 32,-0.189904,0.032809,0.007106,-0.044008,-0.004183,0.006815,0.01823,-0.011862,-0.010023,-0.021273,-0.002698,0.003271,-0.009358,0.007872,-0.003447,-0.012256,-0.003801,0.00176,0.002126,-0.012478,0.000371,0.005793,-0.005302,-0.010777

I sugest replacing Ottoman sample with it!
Kazakhs are a mixture of Caucasians and Mongols. Not suitable for Europe. Migration to Europe came from the Urals. Pomors (descendants of the Ural Hungarians) and Chuvashs are better than Kazakhs. Trust me.

[rothaer]

I found good Turkic sample! Tested, works.


Turkic:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001,0.0694 32,-0.189904,0.032809,0.007106,-0.044008,-0.004183,0.006815,0.01823,-0.011862,-0.010023,-0.021273,-0.002698,0.003271,-0.009358,0.007872,-0.003447,-0.012256,-0.003801,0.00176,0.002126,-0.012478,0.000371,0.005793,-0.005302,-0.010777

I sugest replacing Ottoman sample with it!

Done as for the 2.5 version.

[Jana]

Kazakhs are a mixture of Caucasians and Mongols. Not suitable for Europe. Migration to Europe came from the Urals. Pomors (descendants of the Ural Hungarians) and Chuvashs are better than Kazakhs. Trust me.

It's not a modern Kazakh sample lol, but Iron Age one. Turks came from there.

[Jana]

Done as for the 2.5 version.

Can we re-check Germanic samples?

[Jana]

I analyised Greater Polish samples and it would be best to leave them out. Few score 100% Balto-Slavic on this calc but have weird noise admix like Ethiopian/Berber. Maybe sample quality leaves lot to be desired.

Rothaer, could you just add this Cedynia for Balto-Slavic and that's it?

[rothaer]

Target: Medieval_Cedynia:VK212
Distance: 0.0233% / 0.02329896

100.0 (Balto-)Slavic

Needs to be added!


Medieval_Cedynia:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424, 0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.006 34,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479

I will again re-test those Polish samples from Peterska link, more samples the better!



I disagree.

Why?

Because a calculator with notably diverse references for one component can yield pretty different results for people with resembling genetics, depending on what particular references happened to be picked for modelling. It would end up in results that are to a notable proportion arbitrary and not comparable between testees. (Such inconsistencies become visible if you don't just have coords for unrelated individuals but also for full siblings, that regularly do have a basically resembling genetic ancestry.)

For getting rid of such disadavantages the single references that are chosen have to be much resembling each other (plot closely together in various PCAs). Then the results between testees remain comparable also if different single references are picked for modelling.

Why then at all more than one single reference for a component?

The populations represented by a component were not uniform but somewhat diverse. So if providing more single references that may differ somewhat in tertiary, quartiary etc. dimensions (out of the 25 dimensions in G25) a real heritage may be better caught. In this context there should be made about the same number of single references among the mean "competing" components in the calculator, i. e. the components where the calculator focusses on to get them correct.

Dogmatically this is a compromise between two competing aspects of a good calculator.

Now, the obove mentioned reference from Zehden / Cedynia plots somewhat outside of the range of the selected (Balto-)Slavic references, which are placed in the gravity point of the genetic spread of ancient DNA from samples considered proto Slav-like. We have refrained from a number of Krakauer Berg samples in favour for the mentioned goal, so I can see no reason to add the Zehden / Cedynia sample without any particular consideration.

But among the samples posted by Peterski are two from Lad that are suitable and that do plot very closely with the others. If restricting the single references for one component to four (this is applied to Celtic-like and should also be done for Germanic) these four references for (Balto-)Slavic would best meat the requirements (dropping two from Krakauer Berg and adding two from Lad):



(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad_PCA0197,0.124067,0.13405,0.074293,0 .068153,0.042777,0.016733,0.017156,0.018461,0.0004 09,-0.031162,0.001949,-0.015436,0.015758,0.018441,-0.010993,0.00358,0.000782,0.001014,0.002388,-0.006628,0.006613,-0.000989,0.006162,-0.003615,0.010179
(Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad_PCA0203,0.129758,0.126941,0.070144, 0.070414,0.033852,0.029562,0.00094,0.016153,0.0022 5,-0.022597,0.005846,-0.018284,0.014271,0.009496,-0.017236,0.009016,0.018384,-0.001647,-0.001885,0.006003,-0.003619,-0.008656,0.016022,0.003494,0.006586

[Jana]

Okay, drop Cedynia. But these two are absolutely not good!

Target: (Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad_PCA0203
Distance: 0.0289% / 0.02891737
87.0 (Balto-)Slavic
6.7 Germanic
4.2 VolgaOka_IA
2.1 Graeco-Roman


Target: (Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad_PCA0197
Distance: 0.0259% / 0.02589812
79.6 (Balto-)Slavic
19.3 Germanic
1.1 VolgaOka_IA

[kingmob]

Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 3.4843% / 0.03484251
56.0 Graeco-Roman
26.2 Palaeo-Balkan
12.0 Germanic
3.8 (Balto-)Slavic
2.0 Turkic


I added Turkey_Byzantine for personal circumstance:



Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 2.7492% / 0.02749201
80.8 Turkey_Byzantine
8.8 (Balto-)Slavic
8.2 Germanic
2.2 Turkic

[Jana]

here are two samples from Polish paper that score 100% Balto-Slavic here:


Medieval_Lad:PCA0182,0.122929,0.131003,0.084852,0. 0646,0.043393,0.034861,0.007285,0.000923,0.008181,-0.033167,-0.008282,-0.015736,0.031367,0.025323,-0.016286,-0.007823,0.007171,-0.005194,0.005782,0.00963,-0.008984,-0.011747,-0.000246,-0.014821,-0.001437
Medieval_Lad:PCA0189,0.129758,0.127957,0.062225,0. 077843,0.035699,0.03012,0.015981,0.020307,0.006749 ,-0.039363,-0.007307,-0.017534,0.005649,0.031103,-0.010993,0.005304,0.01017,-0.006334,0.012444,0.005503,-0.001248,0.002968,-0.000616,-0.005663,0.000838

However, first has weird noise admix and should be discarded:

Target: Medieval_Lad: PCA0182
Distance: 0.0303% / 0.03034787 | R3P

54.7 Lithuanian_RA
37.8 Lithuanian_PZ
7.5 Berber_Tunisia_Chen

second one is interesting:

Target: Medieval_Lad :PCA0189
Distance: 0.0310% / 0.03097048 | R2P

89.3 Lithuanian_SZ
10.7 Georgian_Javakheti

Balto-Slavic with Caucasus, proto-Slavic like?

it's very northern however:

Distance to: Medieval_Lad: PCA0189

0.03491905 Russian_Pskov
0.03583181 Lithuanian_VA
0.03665973 Russian_Smolensk
0.03728005 Lithuanian_PA
0.03777888 Belarusian
0.03858040 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03862343 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03862733 Lithuanian_RA
0.03917406 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03936004 Russian_Moscow
0.03951664 Russian_Kursk
0.04014668 Lithuanian_SZ
0.04080724 Russian_Voronezh
0.04111043 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.04127306 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.04135424 Russian_Kaluga
0.04140771 Russian_Orel
0.04142493 Lithuanian_VZ
0.04180955 Russian_Voronezh_North
0.04192796 Russian_Samara
0.04200275 Ukrainian
0.04207699 Lithuanian
0.04243711 Russian_NizhnyNovgorod
0.04282570 Russian_Novgorod
0.04294122 Russian_RyazanSpassk

I leave others to judge.

[rothaer]

Okay, drop Cedynia. But these two are absolutely not good!

Target: (Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad_PCA0203
Distance: 0.0289% / 0.02891737
87.0 (Balto-)Slavic
6.7 Germanic
4.2 VolgaOka_IA
2.1 Graeco-Roman


Target: (Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad_PCA0197
Distance: 0.0259% / 0.02589812
79.6 (Balto-)Slavic
19.3 Germanic
1.1 VolgaOka_IA

Strange! They looked perfect in the various PCAs.

[Jana]

Strange! They looked perfect in the various PCAs.

PCA is absolutely not good enough to judge only. On PCA people with different acestries can cluster togheder. Like half Romanian half Norwegian clustering with Germans without being one. I always check them in modern breakdown and on this calculator too.

That's why I asked should we re-check Germanic samples. I'll do now.

[rothaer]

I already found it, check Volga IA! I sugest removal of Finnic like and adding Volga IA, now not sure should we add only average or all individual samples. I can test.

Yes, these four seem good:



RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL001,0.112685,0.026404,0.084098, 0.089148,0.007078,0.01255,0.016921,0.019384,-0.011453,-0.04155,0.006658,-0.012739,0.02215,0.001514,-0.009229,-0.016043,-0.010431,-0.006081,-0.008296,0.001251,0.003494,-0.001113,-0.003574,-0.022654,0.003832
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL002,0.112685,0.014217,0.097674, 0.097546,-0.001539,0.014223,0.014806,0.014076,-0.001227,-0.035901,0.015914,-0.005095,0.014271,-0.017065,-0.00855,-0.001724,-0.000522,0.001014,-0.003017,0.001751,0.003119,0.002597,0.00419,-0.003374,-0.001317
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL004,0.10927,0.00914,0.098051,0. 090117,-0.00954,0.013945,0.011986,0.019615,-0.001432,-0.034443,0.013153,-0.01139,0.018137,-0.007432,-0.012351,-0.008618,-0.014342,0.001647,0.000503,0.004752,0.007861,-0.004328,-0.003328,0.00241,0.002155
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL007,0.113823,0.032497,0.089755, 0.084303,0.007386,0.00753,0.00987,0.015922,-0.007567,-0.043554,0.014453,-0.012889,0.025421,-0.006881,-0.011943,-0.003713,0.004172,-0.005701,0.005531,0.002251,-0.000499,0.002844,0.002218,-0.004699,-0.000958


No testee selects the Udmurt anymore.

[Jana]

I checked Germanics and trimmed list a bit, excluded these with British or weird eastern shift:


Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%,0.130897, 0.131003,0.057699,0.06137,0.044008,0.011713,0.0051 7,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838

[Mortimer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085
39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
39.0 Germanic
19.2 Celtic-like
1.8 Graeco-Roman
0.2 Finnic-like

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.1985% / 0.01198534
71.0 Germanic
29.0 (Balto-)Slavic

Your wife is more Germanic then you. Is she from another part of Germany?

[rothaer]

PCA is absolutely not good enough to judge only. On PCA people with different acestries can cluster togheder. Like half Romanian half Norwegian clustering with Germans without being one. I always check them in modern breakdown and on this calculator too.

That's why I asked should we re-check Germanic samples. I'll do now.

If also restricted to four I suggest these as representative and clustering together:



Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%,0.135449, 0.132019,0.070144,0.04845,0.037238,0.013945,0.0079 9,0.020307,0.005522,0.002551,-0.013478,-0.001649,-0.005798,-0.004404,0.02348,0.005171,-0.023208,0.005321,0.004777,-0.003502,0.008735,0.008903,-0.00493,0.003615,0.001078

[rothaer]

Your wife is more Germanic then you. Is she from another part of Germany?

Yes, from Western Mecklenburg only while I'm more generic Eastern German (with regionally much spread around ancestry). I answered you that in detail in the "Ask rothaer anything" thread.

[rothaer]

I checked Germanics and trimmed list a bit, excluded these with British or weird eastern shift:


Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%,0.130897, 0.131003,0.057699,0.06137,0.044008,0.011713,0.0051 7,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838

Okay, and now restrict to four. Or we have to elevate the numbers of all other main components to 6 too.

[Jana]

Okay, and now restrict to four. Or we have to elevate the numbers of all other main components to 6 too.


Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191

I didn't test on PCA though.

[rothaer]

Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191

I didn't test on PCA though.

They are all from those that were used before and tested in the PCAs. Important seemed to me to get rid of the somewhat genetic outlier from 150 CE now, when narrowing things down.

Check these samples. All (Balto-)Slavs score 100% and plot at least somewhat together which brought back the Zehden / Cedynia sample. Also that are 4 references from different places which seems good to me. The current total result is this:





(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad:PCA0189,0.129758,0.127957,0.062225, 0.077843,0.035699,0.03012,0.015981,0.020307,0.0067 49,-0.039363,-0.007307,-0.017534,0.005649,0.031103,-0.010993,0.005304,0.01017,-0.006334,0.012444,0.005503,-0.001248,0.002968,-0.000616,-0.005663,0.000838
(Balto-)Slavic:MA_Cedynia:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.07542 4,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.0 0634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.148267, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.138 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839,0.120652,0.151314,0.013953,-0.037468,0.030159,-0.012271,-0.001175,-0.001615,0.006136,0.025149,-0.004222,0.003897,-0.015609,0.002202,-0.019815,-0.007425,0.008605,0.006461,0.00817,-0.014257,-0.007112,0.002968,0.006039,-0.003735,-0.000599
Turkic:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001,0.0694 32,-0.189904,0.032809,0.007106,-0.044008,-0.004183,0.006815,0.01823,-0.011862,-0.010023,-0.021273,-0.002698,0.003271,-0.009358,0.007872,-0.003447,-0.012256,-0.003801,0.00176,0.002126,-0.012478,0.000371,0.005793,-0.005302,-0.010777
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL001,0.112685,0.026404,0.084098, 0.089148,0.007078,0.01255,0.016921,0.019384,-0.011453,-0.04155,0.006658,-0.012739,0.02215,0.001514,-0.009229,-0.016043,-0.010431,-0.006081,-0.008296,0.001251,0.003494,-0.001113,-0.003574,-0.022654,0.003832
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL002,0.112685,0.014217,0.097674, 0.097546,-0.001539,0.014223,0.014806,0.014076,-0.001227,-0.035901,0.015914,-0.005095,0.014271,-0.017065,-0.00855,-0.001724,-0.000522,0.001014,-0.003017,0.001751,0.003119,0.002597,0.00419,-0.003374,-0.001317
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL004,0.10927,0.00914,0.098051,0. 090117,-0.00954,0.013945,0.011986,0.019615,-0.001432,-0.034443,0.013153,-0.01139,0.018137,-0.007432,-0.012351,-0.008618,-0.014342,0.001647,0.000503,0.004752,0.007861,-0.004328,-0.003328,0.00241,0.002155
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL007,0.113823,0.032497,0.089755, 0.084303,0.007386,0.00753,0.00987,0.015922,-0.007567,-0.043554,0.014453,-0.012889,0.025421,-0.006881,-0.011943,-0.003713,0.004172,-0.005701,0.005531,0.002251,-0.000499,0.002844,0.002218,-0.004699,-0.000958



How to label the VolgaOka samples? And maybe one of them is sufficient?

[Jana]

Great job. :) Maybe Russki can help with labeling. Volga_Finn? Just a sugestion, I am not expert on Russia.

[Jana]

do you want to take VolgaOka average instead? I posted it, if you want. I think maybe that would be more suitable.

[rothaer]

do you want to take VolgaOka average instead? I posted it, if you want. I think maybe that would be more suitable.

Rather pick one sample that lays in the middle as it than has a scientific definition while an average would be a blackbox for a third party. (But maybe an average calculator could be made as well...)

I have a general problem, when VolgaOka is applied to Central Europeans. Also a lot of medieval Slavs in Poland got 10-15% of that assigned. Is there any sense with that? :icon_ask:

[Jana]

I have a general problem, when VolgaOka is applied to Central Europeans. Also a lot of medieval Slavs in Poland got 10-15% of that assigned. Is there any sense with that? :icon_ask:

Who cares? polish samples we selected don't get it. Do you mean central Europeans score it?
I don't, even Stears doesn't.

I tested Russian regions with it and Smolensk basically gets none.

[Jana]

Roth, you are free to select VolgaOka sample(s) you see as most fitting. I am neutral in this, think they are all okay more or less. I leave it to you.

[rothaer]

Who cares? polish samples we selected don't get it. Do you mean central Europeans score it?
I don't, even Stears doesn't.

I tested Russian regions with it and Smolensk basically gets none.

Varazdin gets 7.6%.

And yeah...

https://i.imgur.com/YkZPoaZ.jpg

[Katarzyna]

Aggregated version

Target: Katarzyna_scaled(sim)
Distance: 1.0556% / 0.01055585
92.2 (Balto-)Slavic
2.8 Germanic
2.6 Graeco-Roman
1.8 Palaeo-Balkan
0.6 Turkic

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.0977% / 0.01097721
82.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.2 Germanic
0.8 Turkic
0.2 Palaeo-Balkan

[Mortimer]

Of course not a good fit, but i still tried it

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 4.5947% / 0.04594689
45.4 Graeco-Roman
25.2 (Balto-)Slavic
15.4 Turkic
14.0 Germanic

[J. Ketch]

Roth, you are free to select VolgaOka sample(s) you see as most fitting. I am neutral in this, think they are all okay more or less. I leave it to you.
Feiichy, sorry for being lazy but what are the latest genetic conclusions about migration era Slavs, in summary?

[rothaer]

Aggregated version

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.0977% / 0.01097721
82.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.2 Germanic
0.8 Turkic
0.2 Palaeo-Balkan

A common Polka. :shrug: :p

[Kiel]

Well with this version my results are different:

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.4498% / 0.01449799
42.8 Celtic-like
28.4 Germanic
13.0 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Palaeo-Balkan
2.4 RUS_VolgaOka_IA

[Jana]

Varazdin gets 7.6%.

And yeah...

https://i.imgur.com/YkZPoaZ.jpg

Dušan gets some too, but he gets such admixture everywhere!

I think it's good :)

Ofc it will have some overlap with Balto-Slavs, but I think we can't get anything better for east Slavs/Finns.

It really represents pre Slavic Russia.

[Dušan]

They are all from those that were used before and tested in the PCAs. Important seemed to me to get rid of the somewhat genetic outlier from 150 CE now, when narrowing things down.

Check these samples. All (Balto-)Slavs score 100% and plot at least somewhat together which brought back the Zehden / Cedynia sample. Also that are 4 references from different places which seems good to me. The current total result is this:





(Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.08 1458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0 .004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
(Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001,0.129758,0.125 926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0 .010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
(Balto-)Slavic:MA_Lad:PCA0189,0.129758,0.127957,0.062225, 0.077843,0.035699,0.03012,0.015981,0.020307,0.0067 49,-0.039363,-0.007307,-0.017534,0.005649,0.031103,-0.010993,0.005304,0.01017,-0.006334,0.012444,0.005503,-0.001248,0.002968,-0.000616,-0.005663,0.000838
(Balto-)Slavic:MA_Cedynia:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.07542 4,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.0 0634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.148267, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.138 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%,0.138864, 0.116786,0.058454,0.042959,0.036314,0.024821,0.002 35,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76,0.095611,0.142174,-0.042992,-0.064923,-0.011079,-0.015618,-0.006815,-0.007384,-0.007976,0.010934,0.004547,0.001349,0.005798,-0.009909,-0.012079,0.00358,0.026729,-0.008108,-0.002388,0.007003,-0.005116,0.004575,-0.003944,0.008073,-0.000359
Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839,0.120652,0.151314,0.013953,-0.037468,0.030159,-0.012271,-0.001175,-0.001615,0.006136,0.025149,-0.004222,0.003897,-0.015609,0.002202,-0.019815,-0.007425,0.008605,0.006461,0.00817,-0.014257,-0.007112,0.002968,0.006039,-0.003735,-0.000599
Turkic:Kazakhstan_TurkicPossible_EIA:MMR001,0.0694 32,-0.189904,0.032809,0.007106,-0.044008,-0.004183,0.006815,0.01823,-0.011862,-0.010023,-0.021273,-0.002698,0.003271,-0.009358,0.007872,-0.003447,-0.012256,-0.003801,0.00176,0.002126,-0.012478,0.000371,0.005793,-0.005302,-0.010777
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL001,0.112685,0.026404,0.084098, 0.089148,0.007078,0.01255,0.016921,0.019384,-0.011453,-0.04155,0.006658,-0.012739,0.02215,0.001514,-0.009229,-0.016043,-0.010431,-0.006081,-0.008296,0.001251,0.003494,-0.001113,-0.003574,-0.022654,0.003832
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL002,0.112685,0.014217,0.097674, 0.097546,-0.001539,0.014223,0.014806,0.014076,-0.001227,-0.035901,0.015914,-0.005095,0.014271,-0.017065,-0.00855,-0.001724,-0.000522,0.001014,-0.003017,0.001751,0.003119,0.002597,0.00419,-0.003374,-0.001317
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL004,0.10927,0.00914,0.098051,0. 090117,-0.00954,0.013945,0.011986,0.019615,-0.001432,-0.034443,0.013153,-0.01139,0.018137,-0.007432,-0.012351,-0.008618,-0.014342,0.001647,0.000503,0.004752,0.007861,-0.004328,-0.003328,0.00241,0.002155
RUS_VolgaOka_IA:BOL007,0.113823,0.032497,0.089755, 0.084303,0.007386,0.00753,0.00987,0.015922,-0.007567,-0.043554,0.014453,-0.012889,0.025421,-0.006881,-0.011943,-0.003713,0.004172,-0.005701,0.005531,0.002251,-0.000499,0.002844,0.002218,-0.004699,-0.000958



How to label the VolgaOka samples? And maybe one of them is sufficient?




Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.2127% / 0.02212675
45.4 Palaeo-Balkan
45.0 (Balto-)Slavic
7.4 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
2.2 Celtic-like

[Dušan]

Dušan gets some too, but he gets such admixture everywhere!

I think it's good :)

Ofc it will have some overlap with Balto-Slavs, but I think we can't get anything better for east Slavs/Finns.

It really represents pre Slavic Russia.

I got 7% of that.
7% is not small at all.

[rothaer]

Well with this version my results are different:

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.4498% / 0.01449799
42.8 Celtic-like
28.4 Germanic
13.0 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Palaeo-Balkan
2.4 RUS_VolgaOka_IA

OMG. You are a real Germanic-yo-yo! :p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo-yo

I keep 37.2%, however.

[Jana]

I got 7% of that.
7% is not small at all.

I consider it legit, you always get modeled as part Moksha/Erzya even on gedmatch.

[Katarzyna]

A common Polka. :shrug: :p

Wow, I didn’t expect the average Pole to be that much of Germanic. I always thought it’s below 10%

https://i.ibb.co/nPFX9ht/IMG-2596.jpg (https://ibb.co/xFNnWVd)

[Jana]

Feiichy, sorry for being lazy but what are the latest genetic conclusions about migration era Slavs, in summary?

Seems they were somewhere between Belarusians and southern Lithuanians genetically, so quite Baltic shifted.

[Jana]

Well with this version my results are different:

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.4498% / 0.01449799
42.8 Celtic-like
28.4 Germanic
13.0 (Balto-)Slavic
9.2 Graeco-Roman
4.2 Palaeo-Balkan
2.4 RUS_VolgaOka_IA

Your results are always interesting to me because I think your German part will be very similar to mine (mine is Hesse/Alsace).
folks up there are pretty Celtic :P

[ugochaves]

Seems they were somewhere between Belarusians and southern Lithuanians genetically, so quite Baltic shifted.

I have said many times that the original Slavs were similar to the Russians. This is not a joke. Listen at last. Belarusians are very mixed Southern Slavs with the Balts. Ukrainians have the Balkans. In Russia, 0% of impurities. Look at the g25 of user Russki. There are almost no Finno-Ugrians there. Its coordinates can be entered into the calculator as a proxy of the first Slavs. (no kidding)

[Kiel]

OMG. You are a real Germanic-yo-yo! :p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo-yo

I keep 37.2%, however.

It keeps going up and down... With the 2.2 version I had a bit more Germanic than you, now Im Celtic.
I just really dont know which of these are closer to reality, but given this is supposed to be the more accurate version with better samples this should be the one.

[Kiel]

Your results are always interesting to me because I think your German part will be very similar to mine (mine is Hesse/Alsace).
folks up there are pretty Celtic :P

Yea these results are not that surprising.
Most of my ancestors that I have photos of dont really look that Germanic either, not like it means much tho.

Where were your Germans from, Bonyhád?
https://i.ibb.co/W6fpHqk/03-C3-F0-B8-0-C27-4-D1-F-A6-D5-89280-F7-E984-B.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/8jRZ8hJ/02541787-4-CA5-4145-B569-362-CDBC7-B145.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/khTz8v2/0-E05338-B-4931-46-C2-B866-BFF294-FA94-E8.jpg

[mariusz99]

Nice update. For me without changes.
But results seem to be more Germanic. I think it's not real in Aneta's case. She is one of the most EE shifted person I know.
She tested only with MH, so I think her G25 coords are also not perfect.

Target: Aneta_scaled
Distance: 2.5254% / 0.02525365
73.8 (Balto-)Slavic
20.0 Germanic
4.0 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
2.2 Graeco-Roman

[Jana]

Yea these results are not that surprising.
Most of my ancestors that I have photos of dont really look that Germanic either, not like it means much tho.

Where were your Germans from, Bonyhád?
https://i.ibb.co/W6fpHqk/03-C3-F0-B8-0-C27-4-D1-F-A6-D5-89280-F7-E984-B.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/8jRZ8hJ/02541787-4-CA5-4145-B569-362-CDBC7-B145.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/khTz8v2/0-E05338-B-4931-46-C2-B866-BFF294-FA94-E8.jpg

wow, great maps! Yes, Bonyhád. Is it close to you?

[Dušan]

I consider it legit, you always get modeled as part Moksha/Erzya even on gedmatch.

Why dont you put Sungir6 into Slavic source?
With it included, I dont get 7%.


Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0041% / 0.02004072
41.0 RUS_Sunghir_MA
39.8 Palaeo-Balkan
15.6 (Balto-)Slavic
2.4 Celtic-like
1.2 RUS_VolgaOka_IA

[Jana]

Why dont you put Sungir6 into Slavic source?
With it included, I dont get 7%.


Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.0041% / 0.02004072
41.0 RUS_Sunghir_MA
39.8 Palaeo-Balkan
15.6 (Balto-)Slavic
2.4 Celtic-like
1.2 RUS_VolgaOka_IA

It's not good, much more south-eastern shifted compared to others. It's like modern East Slavs, not a early Slav.

[rothaer]

Wow, I didn’t expect the average Pole to be that much of Germanic. I always thought it’s below 10%

https://i.ibb.co/nPFX9ht/IMG-2596.jpg (https://ibb.co/xFNnWVd)

After most of the Polish people emergence area is located in Germania magna (in German, in English seemingly Magna Germania) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania that could explain a first general input. Polonised Germans are then a second step. Still, it's far less than in Czechs.

Btw. the somewhat anti-German early Czech historian Cosmas of Prague (1045-1125) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmas_of_Prague stated that Bohemia is located in Germania. So there will at that time among scholars still have been a consciousness about those historical and geographical conditions.

[Jana]

averages:


Target: Polish
Distance: 0.0112% / 0.01119679

73.2 (Balto-)Slavic
12.0 Germanic
5.5 Celtic-like
4.8 Palaeo-Balkan
3.1 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
1.4 Graeco-Roman

Target: Belarusian
Distance: 0.0129% / 0.01286756

90.4 (Balto-)Slavic
6.5 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
1.9 Celtic-like
1.2 Germanic

Target: Slovakian
Distance: 0.0102% / 0.01019382

65.0 (Balto-)Slavic
16.6 Germanic
6.6 Celtic-like
6.3 Palaeo-Balkan
4.4 Graeco-Roman
1.1 RUS_VolgaOka_IA

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.7081% / 0.01708148 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.4 Germanic
30.4 (Balto-)Slavic
15.4 Celtic-like
14.8 Palaeo-Balkan

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.6919% / 0.01691859
38.0 Germanic
29.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.0 Celtic-like
14.8 Palaeo-Balkan
1.4 Finnic-like

[Abriekman]

New version

Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 2.2506% / 0.02250596
65.8 (Balto-)Slavic
14.2 Graeco-Roman
11.2 Celtic-like
7.0 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
1.8 Palaeo-Balkan

[Katarzyna]

averages:


Target: Polish
Distance: 0.0112% / 0.01119679

73.2 (Balto-)Slavic
12.0 Germanic
5.5 Celtic-like
4.8 Palaeo-Balkan
3.1 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
1.4 Graeco-Roman

Target: Belarusian
Distance: 0.0129% / 0.01286756

90.4 (Balto-)Slavic
6.5 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
1.9 Celtic-like
1.2 Germanic

Target: Slovakian
Distance: 0.0102% / 0.01019382

65.0 (Balto-)Slavic
16.6 Germanic
6.6 Celtic-like
6.3 Palaeo-Balkan
4.4 Graeco-Roman
1.1 RUS_VolgaOka_IA


It hurts so much to see that some Slovaks are more Slavic than me

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.0978% / 0.01097771
82.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.2 Germanic
0.8 Turkic
0.2 Celtic-like

Target: SudnoSS(Slovak)
Distance: 1.4475% / 0.01447514
83.0 (Balto-)Slavic
9.4 Palaeo-Balkan
4.6 Graeco-Roman
3.0 Germanic

[Jana]

It hurts so much to see that some Slovaks are more Slavic than me

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 1.0978% / 0.01097771
82.8 (Balto-)Slavic
16.2 Germanic
0.8 Turkic
0.2 Celtic-like

Target: SudnoSS(Slovak)
Distance: 1.4475% / 0.01447514
83.0 (Balto-)Slavic
9.4 Palaeo-Balkan
4.6 Graeco-Roman
3.0 Germanic

hmm and you complained other members wrre obsessed with being most Slavic? xD :p

Is this person pure Slovak (4/4 grandparents)?

[Katarzyna]

hmm and you complained other members wrre obsessed with being most Slavic? xD :p

Is this person pure Slovak (4/4 grandparents)?

He also got some Southern Polish and Ukrainian ancestry, but mainly Slovak.
And yeah, I admit that I am obsessed with being Slavic cause the alternatives aren’t so nice. (But I only care about my genetical results not phenotype etc)

[Jana]

He also got some Southern Polish and Ukrainian ancestry, but mainly Slovak.
And yeah, I admit that I am obsessed with being Slavic cause the alternatives aren’t so nice. (But I only care about my genetical results not phenotype etc)

Than why you live in non Slavic Germany?

[Katarzyna]

Than why you live in non Slavic Germany?

Because that’s where my parents moved when I was very little. Still I promised myself to not mix with the locals and only date fellow Slavs. That’s why my ex bfs were Russian, Ukrainian and Hungarian-Slovak.
But I am not a racist or so because since I grew up in Germany most of my platonic friends are Germans.

[Vitez]

Impressive, the Celtic percentage went even higher while Germanic disappeared !

Target: Vitez_scaled
Distance: 1.4870% / 0.01487022
50.2 (Balto-)Slavic
18.0 Celtic-like
15.4 Palaeo-Balkan
12.0 Graeco-Roman
3.6 RUS_VolgaOka_IA
0.8 Turkic

[Jana]

Because that’s where my parents moved when I was very little. Still I promised myself to not mix with the locals and only date fellow Slavs. That’s why my ex bfs were Russian, Ukrainian and Hungarian-Slovak.
But I am not a racist or so because since I grew up in Germany most of my platonic friends are Germans.

Than you should move to Poland, like rothaer left Sweden to move to Germany when he turned 18.

[Dušan]

Because that’s where my parents moved when I was very little. Still I promised myself to not mix with the locals and only date fellow Slavs. That’s why my ex bfs were Russian, Ukrainian and Hungarian-Slovak.
But I am not a racist or so because since I grew up in Germany most of my platonic friends are Germans.

But your own grandfather was partly Prussian German, by your own statement. :)

[Katarzyna]

But your own grandfather was partly Prussian German, by your own statement. :)

Yes he was mixed with Prussians, so he got Germanic DNA. But I thought it must be much less in me since everyone else was Slavic. And if I get kids with a pure Slav then my grandfathers partly Germanic origin must have dropped to nearly 0.

[Jana]

It's strange somebody dislikes local people and lives in their country. If I were German, I'd like such people to leave, no offence.

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.3030% / 0.03303003
66.2 Graeco-Roman
16.0 (Balto-)Slavic
12.8 Germanic
5.0 Turkic


still get germanic

[Jana]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 3.3030% / 0.03303003
66.2 Graeco-Roman
16.0 (Balto-)Slavic
12.8 Germanic
5.0 Turkic


still get germanic

Dude, it's not made for you, it has no Anatolian nor Caucasian samples. I always get irritated when people use it and get nonsense results, like Iberians and others.

It's made for central/east Europeans.

[Katarzyna]

It's strange somebody dislikes local people and lives in their country. If I were German, I'd like such people to leave, no offence.

Again, I do not dislike Germans! I only dislike having Germanic DNA in myself (and my future kids etc). As I stated before most of my friends are Germans and Dutch. I lived in the Netherlands before as an Erasmus exchange student and also made amazing friends there. I just wouldn’t consider a Dutch guy for marriage cause I don’t want Germanic DNA, that’s something completely different.

[Annihilus]

Dude, it's not made for you, it has no Anatolian nor Caucasian samples. I always get irritated when people use it and get nonsense results, like Iberians and others.

It's made for central/east Europeans.

hehe I broke the calculator :)

[Jana]

Again, I do not dislike Germans! I only dislike having Germanic DNA in myself (and my future kids etc). As I stated before most of my friends are Germans and Dutch. I lived in the Netherlands before as an Erasmus exchange student and also made amazing friends there. I just wouldn’t consider a Dutch guy for marriage cause I don’t want Germanic DNA, that’s something completely different.

Than move to country with Slavic DNA, otherwise you seem like parasite enjoying high standard created by these people with Germanic DNA you dislike so much.

[Dušan]

Yes he was mixed with Prussians, so he got Germanic DNA. But I thought it must be much less in me since everyone else was Slavic. And if I get kids with a pure Slav then my grandfathers partly Germanic origin must have dropped to nearly 0.


Why dont you date with fellow Polish forum member monsieur?
He is looking for girl to take his virginity.

[Jana]

Russian Smolensk which is just a regional hub average has almost no Volga IA while Belarusian, which is amost surely academic average from Minsk, where came lots of people from Russia proper during USSR has more (still not much, but more).

We really shouldn't use these G25 modern averages, they suck and are not pure.

[Katarzyna]

Than move to country with Slavic DNA, otherwise you seem like parasite enjoying high standard created by these people with Germanic DNA you dislike so much.

How does other people’s dna effect me? I do not care about the DNA of other people. And some Polish people can be also very Germanic and they can only find out after taking a DNA test. But it doesn’t matter for every day contact as talking to them, shaking hands and even drinking from same bottle won’t effect my own genetical results.
Only if I decided to breed with them it would be something different… as that would really affect my own lineage and life.

[alexmegas777]

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.3779% / 0.02377937
29.8 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
19.8 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
17.8 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
16.8 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
7.6 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
6.8 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
1.4 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG

[Figaro]

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 1.6788% / 0.01678822
59.8 Germanic
16.0 (Balto-)Slavic
13.4 Celtic-like
9.8 Palaeo-Balkan
1.0 Graeco-Roman


Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.0939% / 0.01093933
52.0 (Balto-)Slavic
31.4 Germanic
9.4 Graeco-Roman
6.0 Celtic-like
0.8 Turkic
0.4 Palaeo-Balkan

[Kiel]

Again, I do not dislike Germans! I only dislike having Germanic DNA in myself (and my future kids etc). As I stated before most of my friends are Germans and Dutch. I lived in the Netherlands before as an Erasmus exchange student and also made amazing friends there. I just wouldn’t consider a Dutch guy for marriage cause I don’t want Germanic DNA, that’s something completely different.

What is wrong with your kids having Germanic DNA? Thats kind of unclear to me.

[Mortimer]

How does other people’s dna effect me? I do not care about the DNA of other people. And some Polish people can be also very Germanic and they can only find out after taking a DNA test. But it doesn’t matter for every day contact as talking to them, shaking hands and even drinking from same bottle won’t effect my own genetical results.
Only if I decided to breed with them it would be something different… as that would really affect my own lineage and life.

I think the DNA in that specific case is similar but i can understand if you prefer a slav because of culture or similarities feichy said now she wants a croat too

[Jana]

I think the DNA in that specific case is similar but i can understand if you prefer a slav because of culture or similarities feichy said now she wants a croat too

I do, but unlike Kata I live in Croatia.

[kingmob]

hehe I broke the calculator :)


Add this:



Turkey_Byzantine,0.1023143,0.1475902,-0.0302536,-0.0595397,0.0003078,-0.0208239,-0.0007311,-0.0042819,-0.0064313,0.0158747,0.0028868,0.0025642,-0.0044102,0.0018657,-0.0118679,0.0026224,0.011836,-0.0010557,0.0040643,0.0017787,-0.0035908,0.0015389,-0.0008763,0.0013521,-0.0036989

[Jana]

one of Germanic samples I selected didn't plot well on PCA so I replaced it. Current selection:


Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%,0.129758 ,0.131003,0.063356,0.05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003 525,0.010384,0.001023,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838
Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%,0.118376 ,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0.048009,0.023148,0.014 101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%,0.133173, 0.133034,0.065996,0.059109,0.041238,0.017012,0.004 23,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%,0.135449,0 .135065,0.066373,0.062016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611 ,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3.00E-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197

[Jana]

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[Jana]

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[cakmir7y]

Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.5653% / 0.01565319
55.8 (Balto-)Slavic
31.4 Celtic-like
11.0 Germanic
1.4 Graeco-Roman
0.4 Turkic

[Wend-Kruzek]

My result
Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.04224286 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.04768471 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.04786043 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.05078977 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.05144391 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.05167400 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.05220917 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.05265702 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.05293824 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.05337348 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.05408005 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.05416146 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.05589789 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.06007727 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.06172392 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.06301338 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.06646395 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.06834214 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.07052001 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.08185727 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.08970777 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.12011457 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.18115915 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.18586722 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
0.30341544 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.7380% / 0.01737977
32.8 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
21.2 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
18.2 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
12.2 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
12.2 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
2.2 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
1.2 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

Target: Kruzek_scaled
Distance: 1.7380% / 0.01737977
54.0 (Balto-)Slavic
30.4 Germanic
12.2 Palaeo-Balkan
2.2 Graeco-Roman
1.2 Turkic

[Annihilus]

Add this:



Turkey_Byzantine,0.1023143,0.1475902,-0.0302536,-0.0595397,0.0003078,-0.0208239,-0.0007311,-0.0042819,-0.0064313,0.0158747,0.0028868,0.0025642,-0.0044102,0.0018657,-0.0118679,0.0026224,0.011836,-0.0010557,0.0040643,0.0017787,-0.0035908,0.0015389,-0.0008763,0.0013521,-0.0036989


Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 2.9500% / 0.02949964
65.2 Turkey_Byzantine
16.8 (Balto-)Slavic
7.6 Graeco-Roman
6.0 Finnic-like
2.8 Turkic
1.6 Germanic

Thanks, still misses something for me.

[kingmob]

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 2.9500% / 0.02949964
65.2 Turkey_Byzantine
16.8 (Balto-)Slavic
7.6 Graeco-Roman
6.0 Finnic-like
2.8 Turkic
1.6 Germanic

Thanks, still misses something for me.


65% Byzaboo bro.

[Annihilus]

65% Byzaboo bro.

thanks bro :thumb001:

can I see yours with the added sample?

[kingmob]

thanks bro :thumb001:

can I see yours with the added sample?

repost:



Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 2.7492% / 0.02749201
80.8 Turkey_Byzantine
8.8 (Balto-)Slavic
8.2 Germanic
2.2 Turkic

[Danjojo]

Target: DanjojoSIM
Distance: 0.5726% / 0.00572640
38.6 (Balto-)Slavic
36.8 Germanic
13.8 Palaeo-Balkan
9.8 Celtic-like
1.0 Finnic-like

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7088% / 0.01708789
49.0 (Balto-)Slavic
29.2 Palaeo-Balkan
11.0 Germanic
7.4 Graeco-Roman
2.4 Turkic
1.0 Finnic-like

Romanians are Slavs :love0031:

[Russki]

It's not good, much more south-eastern shifted compared to others. It's like modern East Slavs, not a early Slav.


"South-Eastern shift" is an oxymoron. There is only one source of "Eastern shift" and it is the Baltic Bronze Age admixture.

Sungir6 has a quite low Baltic Bronze Age admixture compared to these ancient Slavic samples from Krakauberg, Szolad, Wielkopolska and Mazovia, so naturally you can expect it to be Western-shifted.


https://sun9-58.userapi.com/impg/irSPeBVhuhMKWTon22Z8_Ok_XJwdowsE2eIKnQ/2IhQirQYSFI.jpg?size=720x630&quality=95&sign=75aa4dac0969d621fba39d4517a11ce8&type=album

[Jana]

"South-Eastern shift" is an oxymoron. There is only one source of "Eastern shift" and it is the Baltic Bronze Age admixture.

Sungir6 has a quite low Baltic Bronze Age admixture compared to these ancient Slavic samples from Krakauberg, Szolad, Wielkopolska and Mazovia, so naturally you can expect it to be Western-shifted.


https://sun9-58.userapi.com/impg/irSPeBVhuhMKWTon22Z8_Ok_XJwdowsE2eIKnQ/2IhQirQYSFI.jpg?size=720x630&quality=95&sign=75aa4dac0969d621fba39d4517a11ce8&type=album

Very interesting, thanks.

Do you have another name for Volga-Oka that would be more neutral than Fino-Permic? Finno-Permic would make sense for Russians ofc, but when other Euros who lack direct Finnic input get it it makes less sense.

Some geographic label?

[Jana]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7088% / 0.01708789
49.0 (Balto-)Slavic
29.2 Palaeo-Balkan
11.0 Germanic
7.4 Graeco-Roman
2.4 Turkic
1.0 Finnic-like

Romanians are Slavs :love0031:

You're half Rusyn and thus not representative for average Romanian as they are not 50% Balto Slavic on average.

[Jana]

I will change some labeling for final version of the calculator. Paleo Balkan for eg. This Albanian sample is very good but actual Paleo Balkanites from there were not like that. It's good mid point between Illyrian and Thracian like profiles tho, so it should be kept and it does represent pretty untouched local population in medieval that Slavs encountered, without having much East Med input compared to Dalmatian samples.

Greco Roman also doesn't fit for sample we use as it's almost full blown Levantine. East Med would be better. Or we should use Greek like late Roman sample if we want actual Greco-Romans.

[Russki]

Very interesting, thanks.

Do you have another name for Volga-Oka that would be more neutral than Fino-Permic? Finno-Permic would make sense for Russians ofc, but when other Euros who lack direct Finnic input get it it makes less sense.

Some geographic label?


Well, the meta-ethnic determination of the VolgaOka_IA samples would be Finno-Permic. Considering that they are the closest to ethnic Komi, the more narrowed-down meta-ethnic determination would be "Permic".

In places outside the Finno-Permic reach, such as Germany and Poland, it would be Hunnic and/or Avar traces, but the selected Turkic sample in the OP is not catchy enough for Hunnic and/or Avar traces.

Which Iron Age culture VolgaOka_IA samples belong to?

Gorodets culture are ethnic Mordvins, and the rest are ethnically unknown.


https://sun9-51.userapi.com/impg/Kt60jj8Dk5A_nqZ5KOvNXITKE6o1CxjtKoTGUg/R05VNsHzOe8.jpg?size=1024x789&quality=95&sign=065de41f574270d79bfee01ded9f95a4&type=album

https://sun9-54.userapi.com/impg/wC4O5SUiofV3xy5zgwbouwQs3ZxiyccyLe-gEg/SrH14Vk1PME.jpg?size=1024x644&quality=95&sign=e03b4db8da4aefb07d47bbbbaa34630e&type=album

[paradox]

Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 3.4843% / 0.03484251
56.0 Graeco-Roman
26.2 Palaeo-Balkan
12.0 Germanic
3.8 (Balto-)Slavic
2.0 Turkic


I added Turkey_Byzantine for personal circumstance:



Target: eptr_scaled
Distance: 2.7492% / 0.02749201
80.8 Turkey_Byzantine
8.8 (Balto-)Slavic
8.2 Germanic
2.2 Turkic


What should I add to mine? My mother's maternal side are Sfakians.

[Dušan]

"South-Eastern shift" is an oxymoron. There is only one source of "Eastern shift" and it is the Baltic Bronze Age admixture.

Sungir6 has a quite low Baltic Bronze Age admixture compared to these ancient Slavic samples from Krakauberg, Szolad, Wielkopolska and Mazovia, so naturally you can expect it to be Western-shifted.


Sungir6 is good sample for Early Slavs and fit me like a glove in combination with Roman samples from Serbia and Montenegro.




0.018 Dušan_scaled = 71% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 29% Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean
0.018 Dušan_scaled = 55% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 45% Hungary_EarlyMidAvar
0.018 Dušan_scaled = 75% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 25% Greece_Minoan_Kephala_Petras.SG
0.018 Dušan_scaled = 66% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 34% Estonia_BA.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 67% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 33% Bulgaria_LIA
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 61% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 39% Montenegro_Doclea_Roman_oAegean.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 56% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 44% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 65% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 35% Latvia_BA
0.020 Dušan_scaled = 50% Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean + 50% Estonia_BA.SG
0.020 Dušan_scaled = 50% Latvia_BA + 50% Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F2rKEVtu8nWSm7qFhxPU6UESQNsmA-sl/view


It should be added in ancient calculator.

[Russki]

Sungir6 is good sample for Early Slavs and fit me like a glove.


I don't argue for Sungir6_Medieval being used as an ancient Slavic sample, it undeniably has a Finno-Permic substrate.

Serbia is outside the Finno-Permic reach and in my opinion you have a Hunnic and/or Avar admixture. If you want to correctly assign your meta-ethnic percentages, you can create a custom calculator.

[Jana]

Sungir6 is good sample for Early Slavs and fit me like a glove in combination with Roman samples from Serbia and Montenegro.




0.018 Dušan_scaled = 71% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 29% Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean
0.018 Dušan_scaled = 55% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 45% Hungary_EarlyMidAvar
0.018 Dušan_scaled = 75% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 25% Greece_Minoan_Kephala_Petras.SG
0.018 Dušan_scaled = 66% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 34% Estonia_BA.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 67% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 33% Bulgaria_LIA
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 61% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 39% Montenegro_Doclea_Roman_oAegean.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 56% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 44% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 65% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 35% Latvia_BA
0.020 Dušan_scaled = 50% Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean + 50% Estonia_BA.SG
0.020 Dušan_scaled = 50% Latvia_BA + 50% Spain_Hellenistic_oAegean



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F2rKEVtu8nWSm7qFhxPU6UESQNsmA-sl/view


It should be added in ancient calculator.

It shouldn't. It has as Russki stated notably lower Balto Slavic drift and it has some Finnic input too. Plus something extra southern.

No, it surely isn't good example of early Slav if by early Slav you mean unmixed one.

Just because it fits you it doesn't mean it's good. I expect more objectivity from you as you seem heavily biased and seem to prefer to pick what you like and not what is real.

Just like with medieval Albanian sample. There were no classical Greek in Balkans when Slavs arrived dude.

Our wishes shouldn't impact attempts to create realistic calculators.

[Jana]

I don't score any Germanic in new runs when mixed Germanic samples were removed. And I won't try to add incorrect samples to increase it when obviously for whatever reason I don't have it.

I get some Celtic tho.

[Dušan]

I don't argue for Sungir6_Medieval being used as an ancient Slavic sample, it undeniably has a Finno-Permic substrate.

Serbia is outside the Finno-Permic reach and in my opinion you have a Hunnic and/or Avar admixture. If you want to correctly assign your meta-ethnic percentages, you can create a custom calculator.

Do Estonia and Latvia Bronze Age have Finno-Permic influence?

I got the same distance with them, but logically different percentage than with Sungir6, in combination with Roman sample from Serbia?



0.018 Dušan_scaled = 66% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 34% Estonia_BA.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 56% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 44% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 65% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 35% Latvia_BA

[Dušan]

It shouldn't. It has as Russki stated notably lower Balto Slavic drift and it has some Finnic input too. Plus something extra southern.

No, it surely isn't good example of early Slav if by early Slav you mean unmixed one.

Just because it fits you it doesn't mean it's good. I expect more objectivity from you as you seem heavily biased and seem to prefer to pick what you like and not what is real.

Just like with medieval Albanian sample. There were no classical Greek in Balkans when Slavs arrived dude.

Our wishes shouldn't impact attempts to create realistic calculators.

I dont have to wish or prefere anything.
I simple put these ancient samples in 2-way mode that is what I got.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F2rKEVtu8nWSm7qFhxPU6UESQNsmA-sl/view

[rothaer]

Well, the meta-ethnic determination of the VolgaOka_IA samples would be Finno-Permic. Considering that they are the closest to ethnic Komi, the more narrowed-down meta-ethnic determination would be "Permic".

In places outside the Finno-Permic reach, such as Germany and Poland, it would be Hunnic and/or Avar traces, but the selected Turkic sample in the OP is not catchy enough for Hunnic and/or Avar traces.

Which Iron Age culture VolgaOka_IA samples belong to?

Gorodets culture are ethnic Mordvins, and the rest are ethnically unknown.


https://sun9-51.userapi.com/impg/Kt60jj8Dk5A_nqZ5KOvNXITKE6o1CxjtKoTGUg/R05VNsHzOe8.jpg?size=1024x789&quality=95&sign=065de41f574270d79bfee01ded9f95a4&type=album

https://sun9-54.userapi.com/impg/wC4O5SUiofV3xy5zgwbouwQs3ZxiyccyLe-gEg/SrH14Vk1PME.jpg?size=1024x644&quality=95&sign=e03b4db8da4aefb07d47bbbbaa34630e&type=album

The current VolgaOka doesn’t make sense for Central Europeans - particularly Germans - as there was no such Hun and/or Avar input. There is no historical reality behind such component. Also, it shows up arbitrarily: Both my parents have essentially nothing but it shows up for me and some sibling.

[Karol Klačansky]

My Results not aggregated
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 1.5166% / 0.01516571
52.4 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
15.2 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
10.2 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
9.8 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
9.6 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
1.8 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
1.0 Finnic-like:Udmurt11

My results aggregated
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 1.5166% / 0.01516571
52.4 (Balto-)Slavic
24.8 Celtic-like
21.8 Germanic
1.0 Finnic-like

My results Dist Col 0.25x
Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 1.5275% / 0.01527495 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.8 (Balto-)Slavic
23.8 Celtic-like
23.4 Germanic

My Fathers results not aggregated
Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 1.3665% / 0.01366469
34.0 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
28.4 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
10.2 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
7.6 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
6.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
4.2 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
3.4 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
2.2 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
1.6 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
1.4 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
1.0 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%

My fathers results aggregated
Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 1.3665% / 0.01366455
64.6 (Balto-)Slavic
13.0 Germanic
11.4 Celtic-like
6.0 Graeco-Roman
3.6 Palaeo-Balkan
1.4 Finnic-like

My Fathers results Dist Col 0.25x
Target: KarolFather_scaled
Distance: 1.3857% / 0.01385722 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.6 (Balto-)Slavic
15.0 Germanic
10.0 Celtic-like
6.8 Graeco-Roman
2.6 Palaeo-Balkan

[Karol Klačansky]

hmm and you complained other members wrre obsessed with being most Slavic? xD :p

Is this person pure Slovak (4/4 grandparents)?

must be a north eastern slovak, those guys are super slavic genetically.

[Russki]

It shouldn't. It has as Russki stated notably lower Balto Slavic drift and it has some Finnic input too. Plus something extra southern.


Some people may not be ready to accept another complication, but in my opinion the differentiation of Slavs started already before the Migration Period.

Sunghir6_Medieval can be traced to Ukraine, while those selected North-Eastern shifted Krakauberg and Szolad samples posted in the OP can be traced to Belarus.

Theoretically the Slavs could have been differentiated in the 4th century AD in Ermanaric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermanaric)'s kingdom in Ukraine (Chernyakhov culture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernyakhov_culture)) where the Slavs may have received admixture from the Goths and Thracians in unknown proportions which ultimately pulled them South-West. Some argue that there were no Slavs in the Chernyakhov culture, but if there were no Slavs on the territory of Ukraine in the 4th century AD, then they could have received this substrate after moving there.

The Slavs who lived in Southern Belarus could have remained untouched by the Celts, Goths, Thracians and other mixtures who could shift them South-West.

When the Slavic expansion began, these differentiated Slavs could have spreaded these diverse samples in any direction they went.

I want to note that the differentiation of Germanic samples also began before the Migration Period. The heterogenity of Germanic samples selected in the OP is greater than the difference between the selected North-Eastern shifted Krakauberg and Szolad samples and Sungir6.


https://sun9-5.userapi.com/impg/UrGqRAWidMrQuFtHZCQGU0BdZI-5tn7XpdWU0Q/kdS52_gFwMY.jpg?size=723x684&quality=95&sign=e3a0110ca5a297213516267177621aa1&type=album



Do Estonia and Latvia Bronze Age have Finno-Permic influence?

I got the same distance with them, but logically different percentage than with Sungir6, in combination with Roman sample from Serbia?



0.018 Dušan_scaled = 66% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 34% Estonia_BA.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 56% Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG + 44% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG
0.019 Dušan_scaled = 65% Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG + 35% Latvia_BA


Baltic Bronze Age is devoid of Finno-Permic substrate. 0.018 fit is a slight improvement.

2-way model is way too reducted, I suggest to find a suitable Hunnic/Avar proxy.



The current VolgaOka doesn’t make sense for Central Europeans - particularly Germans - as there was no such Hun and/or Avar input. There is no historical reality behind such component. Also, it shows up arbitrarily: Both my parents have essentially nothing but it shows up for me and some sibling.


I would suggest for people who live in countries outside the Finno-Permic reach to remove such samples.

[someonenotyou]

Target:
Distance: 1.3828% / 0.01382784
31.6 (Balto-)Slavic
26.0 Germanic
23.6 Celtic-like
18.4 Graeco-Roman
0.2 Finnic-like
0.2 Turkic

[retfala]

Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 0.7811% / 0.00781108
50.4 (Balto-)Slavic
33.2 Palaeo-Balkan
7.0 Germanic
4.4 Graeco-Roman
3.8 Celtic-like
1.2 Turkic

[cass]

"South-Eastern shift" is an oxymoron. There is only one source of "Eastern shift" and it is the Baltic Bronze Age admixture.

Sungir6 has a quite low Baltic Bronze Age admixture compared to these ancient Slavic samples from Krakauberg, Szolad, Wielkopolska and Mazovia, so naturally you can expect it to be Western-shifted.


https://sun9-58.userapi.com/impg/irSPeBVhuhMKWTon22Z8_Ok_XJwdowsE2eIKnQ/2IhQirQYSFI.jpg?size=720x630&quality=95&sign=75aa4dac0969d621fba39d4517a11ce8&type=album



This is an apparent closeness resulting from the Balkan admixture of Sunghir
https://i.ibb.co/dP0G1df/11111111.jpg (https://ibb.co/48ZP96F)

[Wend-Kruzek]

Hi.
Volga -Oka

Distance to: Kruzek no-scaled
0.01692749 KED004
0.01936905 GOS002
0.02152673 KBL003
0.02198522 SHE009
0.02240803 GOS001
0.02339915 KBL002
0.02466637 KED003
0.02564079 KED001
0.02596151 SHE005
0.02861224 SHE007
0.02912748 KED002
0.02973752 GOR001
0.03383002 SHE003
0.03561994 KRS001
0.03588398 GOS003
0.03706602 BOL006
0.03906315 SHE006
0.03959217 BOL004
0.04018134 BOL007
0.04055379 BOL001
0.04224879 BOL002
0.04309199 BOL008
0.04330704 SHE004
0.04386012 BOL009
0.04551626 SHE008

Target: LudovitKruzek
Distance: 0.8399% / 0.00839900
43.8 KED004
34.0 GOS002
8.4 SHE008
5.4 GOS003
5.0 SHE009
3.4 SHE007

interesting insight. for me::)

[de Burgh II]

Target: .
Distance: 0.5986% / 0.00598562
67.2 Germanic
32.2 Celtic-like
0.6 Graeco-Roman

[Karol Klačansky]

Again, I do not dislike Germans! I only dislike having Germanic DNA in myself (and my future kids etc). As I stated before most of my friends are Germans and Dutch. I lived in the Netherlands before as an Erasmus exchange student and also made amazing friends there. I just wouldn’t consider a Dutch guy for marriage cause I don’t want Germanic DNA, that’s something completely different.

what are u complaining about, you are very slavic genetically. If u were 100% slavic in ancestry ud be inbred. Germans are a noble people and admixture with them is what in a way makes u “polish” in every sense as ur dna reflects polish history.

Now a pole who is protestant…dass muss man korrigieren.

[Russki]

This is an apparent closeness resulting from the Balkan admixture of Sunghir
https://i.ibb.co/dP0G1df/11111111.jpg (https://ibb.co/48ZP96F)


You can tweak reference populations however you want, I guess it is funny for some.

When creating a troll model you should check how modern Poles score in it.


https://sun9-3.userapi.com/impg/sKfOpVcm_hIXfOFiqMQSO_Ja0_eB_KUlAtUchg/-pGIEHJC0lk.jpg?size=560x1508&quality=95&sign=bafcfab1b923179deb76a407841a0b92&type=album


You really lower every discussion you join to the level of some Eastern European nationalistic drivel.

[Laredo]

Does anyone knows how Germanic are spaniards and portuguese on average? im not really much into this neither I have g25 cordinates, so I would like to see the admixtures over all.

[Beowulf]

Does anyone knows how Germanic are spaniards and portuguese on average? im not really much into this neither I have g25 cordinates, so I would like to see the admixtures over all.

around 0-15% as much as i saw in some calcs depends on the person and it could also be confused with the 'Celtic' component.

[Katarzyna]

what are u complaining about, you are very slavic genetically. If u were 100% slavic in ancestry ud be inbred. Germans are a noble people and admixture with them is what in a way makes u “polish” in every sense as ur dna reflects polish history.

Now a pole who is protestant…dass muss man korrigieren.

I know that German(ic) DNA is expected in a Polish result, however I am mainly jealous of certain Slovaks, like SudnoSS who are more Slavic than me and don’t have any Germanic admixture. I am fine with for instance Russians being more Slavic as it’s kinda expected since … well they are further away from other ethnic groups but when even a Slovak is more Slavic than me I feel like my ancestors did something wrong in life.

Edit: many of my fellow Poles are also over 90% Slavic (not all ofc) and yet they are real Poles. And ofc I am also jealous of them

[Annihilus]

I know that German(ic) DNA is expected in a Polish result, however I am mainly jealous of certain Slovaks, like SudnoSS who are more Slavic than me and don’t have any Germanic admixture. I am fine with for instance Russians being more Slavic as it’s kinda expected since … well they are further away from other ethnic groups but when even a Slovak is more Slavic than me I feel like my ancestors did something wrong in life.

Edit: many of my fellow Poles are also over 90% Slavic (not all ofc) and yet they are real Poles. And ofc I am also jealous of them

You should embrace all your ancestors. They are what makes you, you.

[Katarzyna]

You should embrace all your ancestors. They are what makes you, you.

You are right, I understand what you mean.

[ugochaves]

You are right, I understand what you mean.
To "correct the mistake of your ancestors", you must move to Russia or Belarus. Unfortunately, you will be replacing one error with another error. The Finno-Ugric error will be added to the German error. Maybe in the Balkans? This is a Thracian mistake. I like the genetics of Eastern Poles - the most balanced for a real Slav.

[Katarzyna]

To "correct the mistake of your ancestors", you must move to Russia or Belarus. Unfortunately, you will be replacing one error with another error. The Finno-Ugric error will be added to the German error. Maybe in the Balkans? This is a Thracian mistake. I like the genetics of Eastern Poles - the most balanced for a real Slav.

Aww, actually I find it kinda cute how you put it. And it’s even the truth xD

[bained]

Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 0.9786% / 0.00978618 | ADC: 0.25x RC
33.8 Palaeo-Balkan
25.8 (Balto-)Slavic
17.0 Celtic-like
15.6 Graeco-Roman
7.8 Germanic

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.2841% / 0.02284067
58.9 Celtic-like
31.3 Palaeo-Balkan
9.8 Graeco-Roman

[cass]

You can tweak reference populations however you want, I guess it is funny for some.

When creating a troll model you should check how modern Poles score in it.


https://sun9-3.userapi.com/impg/sKfOpVcm_hIXfOFiqMQSO_Ja0_eB_KUlAtUchg/-pGIEHJC0lk.jpg?size=560x1508&quality=95&sign=bafcfab1b923179deb76a407841a0b92&type=album


You really lower every discussion you join to the level of some Eastern European nationalistic drivel.

LOL

It was you who started referring like a troll to the Irish and Germans. Which makes no sense at all in the case of Sunghir.

Sunghir was probably a genetic Ukrainian clearly different from other ancient Slavic samples. Nothing surprising for the early East Slavs.

[kingmob]

What should I add to mine? My mother's maternal side are Sfakians.

Turkey_Byzantine (the one I posted).

[Russki]

LOL

It was you who started referring like a troll to the Irish and Germans. Which makes no sense at all in the case of Sunghir.


Everyone understood that post except a bizzare Eastern European nationalist.



Sunghir was probably a genetic Ukrainian clearly different from other ancient Slavic samples. Nothing surprising for the early East Slavs.


These samples can be traced to migration from Ukraine:



Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG,0.126 344,0.120848,0.071276,0.059755,0.043085,0.018686,0 .00799,0.007384,-0.003068,-0.014397,0.000974,-0.007493,0.013677,0.025598,-0.012758,-0.005038,0.002608,-0.002027,0.000503,0.003377,-0.009109,-0.00779,0.011092,-0.009399,-0.002754
Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0328,0.12862,0.131003,0.061471, 0.061693,0.031698,0.030957,0.013396,0.005538,-0.006136,-0.025149,-0.002923,-0.015886,0.011596,0.034956,-0.024565,0.004773,0.016428,-0.006334,0.008296,0.004002,-0.007612,-0.011005,0,-0.002771,-0.003592
Medieval_Markowice:PCA0158,0.12862,0.126941,0.0682 59,0.055879,0.040623,0.02259,0.00611,0.009692,-0.0045,-0.030069,-0.000325,-0.012889,0.016799,0.027387,-0.013029,-0.013524,-0.010561,0.001014,0.014581,-0.007504,-0.004118,-0.001237,0.001479,-0.003615,0.007424
Medieval_Lad:PCA0191,0.1161,0.136081,0.064111,0.04 8127,0.033852,0.022032,0.010105,0,0.001841,-0.020593,-0.005196,-0.019183,0.003568,0.025185,-0.005565,0.01074,-0.00013,-0.002154,0.001006,0.008004,0.006364,-0.019908,0.004067,-0.000843,-0.014011
Medieval_Lad:PCA0192,0.138864,0.123895,0.07203,0.0 57817,0.025851,0.019522,0.006815,0.019845,-0.008385,-0.019135,-0.006658,-0.003897,0.010555,0.023533,-0.020494,0.004773,0.022296,-0.0019,-0.010433,0.00963,0.004991,-0.010881,0.006162,-0.002289,-0.001197
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0332,0.129758,0.119832 ,0.07467,0.046189,0.040931,0.020917,0.00846,0.0179 99,-0.007976,-0.01713,-0.01023,-0.013188,0.010109,0.021194,-0.019951,-0.000796,0.010952,0.000127,0.011439,0.000875,-0.013351,0.002102,-0.000246,-0.003615,-0.006945
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0335,0.132035,0.12491, 0.065242,0.052003,0.038776,0.03012,0.012456,0.0191 53,-0.011862,-0.02442,-0.00341,-0.017834,0.026313,0.015138,-0.015065,0.010607,-0.011474,-0.005828,-0.000126,0.002751,0.004243,-0.00643,0.019103,-0.015785,-0.001557
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0344,0.134311,0.121864 ,0.07467,0.065892,0.033852,0.021753,0.00705,0.0173 07,-0.009817,-0.034807,0.005359,-0.005245,0.019772,0.015827,-0.014251,0.003978,0.024903,-0.007981,-0.005154,-0.004127,-0.010731,0.006801,0.001849,-0.003735,-0.002754
DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009,0.129758,0.129988,0.06 4111,0.064923,0.039392,0.021196,0.00893,0.011307,0 .000205,-0.028793,-0.003085,-0.009891,0.017988,0.023258,-0.010722,0.006629,0.007693,0.00114,0.004651,0.0098 8,-0.01123,0.000495,0.003944,-0.008796,-0.001197


These samples can be traced to migration from Belarus:



Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0314,0.134311,0.116786,0.093526 ,0.0646,0.027697,0.021475,0.003525,-0.001615,0.00634,-0.020228,0.010718,-0.020082,0.025272,0.027249,-0.010858,0.001591,-0.001825,0.007601,-0.007542,-0.012131,-0.008111,0.003091,0.01479,-0.014701,-0.005628
Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0319,0.130897,0.131003,0.078818 ,0.078166,0.040623,0.034304,0.00376,0.016845,-0.006954,-0.024055,-0.008444,-0.013188,0.016353,0.026974,-0.003529,0.008486,0.017732,-0.003547,0.009679,-0.003001,-0.010856,-0.015951,-0.002835,-0.014339,0.000599
Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0324,0.129758,0.1046,0.090132,0 .078812,0.052933,0.032909,0.013161,0.03023,-0.005931,-0.039727,-0.00341,-0.007493,0.024975,0.027662,-0.00855,0.008486,0.021774,0.005574,-0.004777,-0.005002,-0.006738,-0.006925,0.019966,-0.009519,0.000239
Medieval_Markowice:PCA0156,0.124067,0.119832,0.073 916,0.065892,0.03693,0.034582,0.003525,0.014769,-0.008999,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.02278,0.011893,0.033442,-0.017644,-0.005304,0.002868,0.001774,0.002765,-0.003877,0.001996,-0.012242,0.003574,-0.016026,0.003353
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0165,0.132035,0.117801,0.082589 ,0.084949,0.044316,0.030957,0.014571,0.01523,-0.002454,-0.019864,-0.006171,-0.020682,0.036422,0.029314,-0.003393,-0.010475,-0.004694,-0.012542,0.000503,-0.005878,-0.003993,-0.008779,0.005546,0.001807,0.002754
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0166,0.118376,0.132019,0.067505 ,0.077843,0.032621,0.044344,0.0047,0.014999,-0.006136,-0.03426,0.005684,-0.004946,0.010704,0.029864,0.000814,-0.019756,-0.008866,0.004054,0.009804,0.002501,-0.00262,-0.001607,0.013434,-0.011688,0.00946
Medieval_Lad:PCA0181,0.135449,0.123895,0.068636,0. 073321,0.046162,0.028168,0.001175,0.015692,0.00265 9,-0.02442,0.000974,-0.009292,0.01665,0.0139,-0.029723,0.002784,-0.00013,-0.006334,-0.001508,-0.005253,-0.003244,0.000866,0.006532,-0.021328,-0.017244
Medieval_Lad:PCA0182,0.122929,0.131003,0.084852,0. 0646,0.043393,0.034861,0.007285,0.000923,0.008181,-0.033167,-0.008282,-0.015736,0.031367,0.025323,-0.016286,-0.007823,0.007171,-0.005194,0.005782,0.00963,-0.008984,-0.011747,-0.000246,-0.014821,-0.001437
Medieval_Lad:PCA0189,0.129758,0.127957,0.062225,0. 077843,0.035699,0.03012,0.015981,0.020307,0.006749 ,-0.039363,-0.007307,-0.017534,0.005649,0.031103,-0.010993,0.005304,0.01017,-0.006334,0.012444,0.005503,-0.001248,0.002968,-0.000616,-0.005663,0.000838
Medieval_Lad:PCA0211,0.130897,0.11577,0.077687,0.0 69445,0.051394,0.031794,0.002585,0.032076,-0.008999,-0.025878,-0.009581,-0.008243,0.017393,0.023671,-0.020765,-0.00053,0.015516,-0.012289,0.017221,-0.003126,-0.007612,-0.018424,0.016145,-0.006386,0.006466
Medieval_Oblaczkowo:PCA0216,0.127482,0.131003,0.07 731,0.082365,0.050471,0.022869,0.015746,0.00923,-0.005522,-0.022597,-0.006983,-0.005845,0.018434,0.047755,0.012079,-0.003978,-0.01004,0.006714,0.001508,0.000875,-0.003868,-0.004946,0.01861,-0.016147,0.002515
Medieval_Oblaczkowo:PCA0225,0.121791,0.119832,0.07 6933,0.066538,0.041238,0.016176,0.014806,0.024691,-0.009204,-0.037723,0.001624,-0.012739,0.04222,0.021882,-0.009772,-0.00053,0.008475,0.004561,0.006034,-0.01138,-0.004866,-0.01793,-0.004067,0.006145,0.006945
Medieval_Rumin:PCA0246,0.127482,0.113739,0.089755, 0.061693,0.051086,0.036256,0.00047,0.016845,0.0089 99,-0.02278,0.012179,-0.013638,0.030178,0.018029,-0.0095,-0.012331,-0.014212,-0.001774,0.001634,0.003001,-0.002121,-0.006677,0.002342,-0.016147,0.005748
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0333,0.124067,0.125926 ,0.09428,0.08075,0.044316,0.034582,0.018566,0.006,-0.001023,-0.035536,-0.004709,-0.008542,0.030029,0.024497,-0.014929,0.004508,0.03064,-0.00228,-0.001383,0.011756,0.009109,-0.008285,0.004314,-0.007109,0.006826
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0340,0.133173,0.118817 ,0.087492,0.070737,0.039084,0.027889,0.012926,0.00 9692,-0.001432,-0.028429,-0.00341,-0.011989,0.023042,0.026286,-0.008686,-0.000398,0.004955,-0.006968,0.002388,0.010505,0.001373,-0.01286,0.002095,-0.012652,0.005269
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0343,0.133173,0.123895 ,0.073161,0.076551,0.044008,0.019243,0.007285,0.01 823,-0.0045,-0.019317,0.005359,-0.002398,0.018731,0.027387,-0.016694,0.003182,-0.004303,0.003801,0.002514,-0.003377,-0.014974,-0.004699,0.013804,-0.004579,0.007305
Medieval_Dziekanowice:PCA0354,0.124067,0.127957,0. 084475,0.074936,0.040623,0.023148,0.011986,0.01223 ,-0.003886,-0.0277,-0.001461,-0.01094,0.023191,0.025323,-0.012893,-0.001458,0.010822,-0.003421,0.001257,-0.003377,-0.004617,-0.008656,0.007395,-0.011327,-0.003233
Medieval_Santok:PCA0399,0.132035,0.128972,0.07731, 0.077843,0.035083,0.036535,0.008225,0.014538,0.003 477,-0.030069,-0.003573,-0.000749,0.022596,0.026836,-0.012215,-0.006497,-0.008214,-0.007601,0.000503,-0.012381,0.004492,0.003339,0.011462,-0.001807,-0.016645

[Jana]

with cleaned samples

https://i.imgur.com/iShvumY.png

Link to final version of the calculator HERE: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?375380-v2-5-calculator

[paradox]

Turkey_Byzantine (the one I posted).

Thanks
With Turkey_Byzantine

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.5832% / 0.01583154
51.4 Turkey_Byzantine
28.6 (Balto-)Slavic
12.4 Palaeo-Balkan
4.0 Germanic
2.8 Celtic-like
0.8 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.9608% / 0.01960844
31.0 Palaeo-Balkan
30.8 (Balto-)Slavic
21.8 Turkey_Byzantine
7.6 Germanic
6.0 Celtic-like
2.8 Finnic-like
-------------------
Without Turkey_Byzantine

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.8045% / 0.01804478
34.8 Graeco-Roman
31.6 Palaeo-Balkan
24.6 (Balto-)Slavic
8.2 Germanic
0.8 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.0683% / 0.02068288
40.6 Palaeo-Balkan
29.8 (Balto-)Slavic
13.6 Graeco-Roman
9.4 Germanic
4.2 Celtic-like
2.4 Finnic-like

[kingmob]

Thanks



Another Byzaboo joins the gang.


https://i.redd.it/3lj6nzdk7ay41.png

[Katarzyna]

Another Byzaboo joins the gang.


https://i.redd.it/3lj6nzdk7ay41.png
My favorite is when Turks (from Turkey) go for a DNA test and expect to be fully Turanids and later come out as Andronikos incarnates :D

[Katarzyna]

My favorite is when Turks (from Turkey) go for a DNA test and expect to be fully Turanids and later come out as Andronikos incarnates :D

Like this here
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsJyGbJuDRt/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[cass]

Everyone understood that post except a bizzare Eastern European nationalist.





These samples can be traced to migration from Ukraine:



Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6_noUDG.SG,0.126 344,0.120848,0.071276,0.059755,0.043085,0.018686,0 .00799,0.007384,-0.003068,-0.014397,0.000974,-0.007493,0.013677,0.025598,-0.012758,-0.005038,0.002608,-0.002027,0.000503,0.003377,-0.009109,-0.00779,0.011092,-0.009399,-0.002754
Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0328,0.12862,0.131003,0.061471, 0.061693,0.031698,0.030957,0.013396,0.005538,-0.006136,-0.025149,-0.002923,-0.015886,0.011596,0.034956,-0.024565,0.004773,0.016428,-0.006334,0.008296,0.004002,-0.007612,-0.011005,0,-0.002771,-0.003592
Medieval_Markowice:PCA0158,0.12862,0.126941,0.0682 59,0.055879,0.040623,0.02259,0.00611,0.009692,-0.0045,-0.030069,-0.000325,-0.012889,0.016799,0.027387,-0.013029,-0.013524,-0.010561,0.001014,0.014581,-0.007504,-0.004118,-0.001237,0.001479,-0.003615,0.007424
Medieval_Lad:PCA0191,0.1161,0.136081,0.064111,0.04 8127,0.033852,0.022032,0.010105,0,0.001841,-0.020593,-0.005196,-0.019183,0.003568,0.025185,-0.005565,0.01074,-0.00013,-0.002154,0.001006,0.008004,0.006364,-0.019908,0.004067,-0.000843,-0.014011
Medieval_Lad:PCA0192,0.138864,0.123895,0.07203,0.0 57817,0.025851,0.019522,0.006815,0.019845,-0.008385,-0.019135,-0.006658,-0.003897,0.010555,0.023533,-0.020494,0.004773,0.022296,-0.0019,-0.010433,0.00963,0.004991,-0.010881,0.006162,-0.002289,-0.001197
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0332,0.129758,0.119832 ,0.07467,0.046189,0.040931,0.020917,0.00846,0.0179 99,-0.007976,-0.01713,-0.01023,-0.013188,0.010109,0.021194,-0.019951,-0.000796,0.010952,0.000127,0.011439,0.000875,-0.013351,0.002102,-0.000246,-0.003615,-0.006945
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0335,0.132035,0.12491, 0.065242,0.052003,0.038776,0.03012,0.012456,0.0191 53,-0.011862,-0.02442,-0.00341,-0.017834,0.026313,0.015138,-0.015065,0.010607,-0.011474,-0.005828,-0.000126,0.002751,0.004243,-0.00643,0.019103,-0.015785,-0.001557
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0344,0.134311,0.121864 ,0.07467,0.065892,0.033852,0.021753,0.00705,0.0173 07,-0.009817,-0.034807,0.005359,-0.005245,0.019772,0.015827,-0.014251,0.003978,0.024903,-0.007981,-0.005154,-0.004127,-0.010731,0.006801,0.001849,-0.003735,-0.002754
DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA009,0.129758,0.129988,0.06 4111,0.064923,0.039392,0.021196,0.00893,0.011307,0 .000205,-0.028793,-0.003085,-0.009891,0.017988,0.023258,-0.010722,0.006629,0.007693,0.00114,0.004651,0.0098 8,-0.01123,0.000495,0.003944,-0.008796,-0.001197


These samples can be traced to migration from Belarus:



Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0314,0.134311,0.116786,0.093526 ,0.0646,0.027697,0.021475,0.003525,-0.001615,0.00634,-0.020228,0.010718,-0.020082,0.025272,0.027249,-0.010858,0.001591,-0.001825,0.007601,-0.007542,-0.012131,-0.008111,0.003091,0.01479,-0.014701,-0.005628
Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0319,0.130897,0.131003,0.078818 ,0.078166,0.040623,0.034304,0.00376,0.016845,-0.006954,-0.024055,-0.008444,-0.013188,0.016353,0.026974,-0.003529,0.008486,0.017732,-0.003547,0.009679,-0.003001,-0.010856,-0.015951,-0.002835,-0.014339,0.000599
Medieval_Plonsk:PCA0324,0.129758,0.1046,0.090132,0 .078812,0.052933,0.032909,0.013161,0.03023,-0.005931,-0.039727,-0.00341,-0.007493,0.024975,0.027662,-0.00855,0.008486,0.021774,0.005574,-0.004777,-0.005002,-0.006738,-0.006925,0.019966,-0.009519,0.000239
Medieval_Markowice:PCA0156,0.124067,0.119832,0.073 916,0.065892,0.03693,0.034582,0.003525,0.014769,-0.008999,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.02278,0.011893,0.033442,-0.017644,-0.005304,0.002868,0.001774,0.002765,-0.003877,0.001996,-0.012242,0.003574,-0.016026,0.003353
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0165,0.132035,0.117801,0.082589 ,0.084949,0.044316,0.030957,0.014571,0.01523,-0.002454,-0.019864,-0.006171,-0.020682,0.036422,0.029314,-0.003393,-0.010475,-0.004694,-0.012542,0.000503,-0.005878,-0.003993,-0.008779,0.005546,0.001807,0.002754
Medieval_Legowo:PCA0166,0.118376,0.132019,0.067505 ,0.077843,0.032621,0.044344,0.0047,0.014999,-0.006136,-0.03426,0.005684,-0.004946,0.010704,0.029864,0.000814,-0.019756,-0.008866,0.004054,0.009804,0.002501,-0.00262,-0.001607,0.013434,-0.011688,0.00946
Medieval_Lad:PCA0181,0.135449,0.123895,0.068636,0. 073321,0.046162,0.028168,0.001175,0.015692,0.00265 9,-0.02442,0.000974,-0.009292,0.01665,0.0139,-0.029723,0.002784,-0.00013,-0.006334,-0.001508,-0.005253,-0.003244,0.000866,0.006532,-0.021328,-0.017244
Medieval_Lad:PCA0182,0.122929,0.131003,0.084852,0. 0646,0.043393,0.034861,0.007285,0.000923,0.008181,-0.033167,-0.008282,-0.015736,0.031367,0.025323,-0.016286,-0.007823,0.007171,-0.005194,0.005782,0.00963,-0.008984,-0.011747,-0.000246,-0.014821,-0.001437
Medieval_Lad:PCA0189,0.129758,0.127957,0.062225,0. 077843,0.035699,0.03012,0.015981,0.020307,0.006749 ,-0.039363,-0.007307,-0.017534,0.005649,0.031103,-0.010993,0.005304,0.01017,-0.006334,0.012444,0.005503,-0.001248,0.002968,-0.000616,-0.005663,0.000838
Medieval_Lad:PCA0211,0.130897,0.11577,0.077687,0.0 69445,0.051394,0.031794,0.002585,0.032076,-0.008999,-0.025878,-0.009581,-0.008243,0.017393,0.023671,-0.020765,-0.00053,0.015516,-0.012289,0.017221,-0.003126,-0.007612,-0.018424,0.016145,-0.006386,0.006466
Medieval_Oblaczkowo:PCA0216,0.127482,0.131003,0.07 731,0.082365,0.050471,0.022869,0.015746,0.00923,-0.005522,-0.022597,-0.006983,-0.005845,0.018434,0.047755,0.012079,-0.003978,-0.01004,0.006714,0.001508,0.000875,-0.003868,-0.004946,0.01861,-0.016147,0.002515
Medieval_Oblaczkowo:PCA0225,0.121791,0.119832,0.07 6933,0.066538,0.041238,0.016176,0.014806,0.024691,-0.009204,-0.037723,0.001624,-0.012739,0.04222,0.021882,-0.009772,-0.00053,0.008475,0.004561,0.006034,-0.01138,-0.004866,-0.01793,-0.004067,0.006145,0.006945
Medieval_Rumin:PCA0246,0.127482,0.113739,0.089755, 0.061693,0.051086,0.036256,0.00047,0.016845,0.0089 99,-0.02278,0.012179,-0.013638,0.030178,0.018029,-0.0095,-0.012331,-0.014212,-0.001774,0.001634,0.003001,-0.002121,-0.006677,0.002342,-0.016147,0.005748
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0333,0.124067,0.125926 ,0.09428,0.08075,0.044316,0.034582,0.018566,0.006,-0.001023,-0.035536,-0.004709,-0.008542,0.030029,0.024497,-0.014929,0.004508,0.03064,-0.00228,-0.001383,0.011756,0.009109,-0.008285,0.004314,-0.007109,0.006826
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0340,0.133173,0.118817 ,0.087492,0.070737,0.039084,0.027889,0.012926,0.00 9692,-0.001432,-0.028429,-0.00341,-0.011989,0.023042,0.026286,-0.008686,-0.000398,0.004955,-0.006968,0.002388,0.010505,0.001373,-0.01286,0.002095,-0.012652,0.005269
Medieval_Ostrow_Lednicki:PCA0343,0.133173,0.123895 ,0.073161,0.076551,0.044008,0.019243,0.007285,0.01 823,-0.0045,-0.019317,0.005359,-0.002398,0.018731,0.027387,-0.016694,0.003182,-0.004303,0.003801,0.002514,-0.003377,-0.014974,-0.004699,0.013804,-0.004579,0.007305
Medieval_Dziekanowice:PCA0354,0.124067,0.127957,0. 084475,0.074936,0.040623,0.023148,0.011986,0.01223 ,-0.003886,-0.0277,-0.001461,-0.01094,0.023191,0.025323,-0.012893,-0.001458,0.010822,-0.003421,0.001257,-0.003377,-0.004617,-0.008656,0.007395,-0.011327,-0.003233
Medieval_Santok:PCA0399,0.132035,0.128972,0.07731, 0.077843,0.035083,0.036535,0.008225,0.014538,0.003 477,-0.030069,-0.003573,-0.000749,0.022596,0.026836,-0.012215,-0.006497,-0.008214,-0.007601,0.000503,-0.012381,0.004492,0.003339,0.011462,-0.001807,-0.016645

Everyone except a bizzare Eastern European nationalist can see that only Sunghir has a strange Balkan footprint.

Sunghir is not a reference sample.
https://i.ibb.co/C6GFRj7/0roma.jpg (https://ibb.co/gdKCk0T)

[Russki]

Everyone except a bizzare Eastern European nationalist can see that only Sunghir has a strange Balkan footprint.

Sunghir is not a reference sample.
https://i.ibb.co/C6GFRj7/0roma.jpg (https://ibb.co/gdKCk0T)


You should have isolated NW European, NE European, Balkan and West Med components and showed the result.

All these medieval Polish samples have a greater Balkan component than Sunghir6.

They all can be traced to migration from Ukraine.


https://sun9-60.userapi.com/impg/BC-zMappoB5f8Ikl0CaShTz1mEaOxmvZ-dbwpw/6bZpbwjiM90.jpg?size=704x463&quality=95&sign=c5ee75f2e45444902cac32d4d03c1a56&type=album



only Sunghir has a strange Balkan footprint.


Is this why you removed medieval Polish samples which have a bigger Balkan component than Sunghir6?

You are lucky that other members are not interested in our conversation, otherwise they would notice your manipulations.

[Annihilus]

Another Byzaboo joins the gang.


Can you give us a good Byzaboo calculator? My distance is too high with this one.

[Hulu]

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.2915% / 0.02291550
58.0 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
12.8 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
12.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
10.2 Turkey_Byzantine
6.0 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
1.0 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 2.4178% / 0.02417815 | R3P
60.6 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
19.0 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
17.6 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
2.8 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG

[cass]

You should have isolated NW European, NE European, Balkan and West Med components and showed the result.

All these medieval Polish samples have a greater Balkan component than Sunghir6.

They all can be traced to migration from Ukraine.


https://sun9-60.userapi.com/impg/BC-zMappoB5f8Ikl0CaShTz1mEaOxmvZ-dbwpw/6bZpbwjiM90.jpg?size=704x463&quality=95&sign=c5ee75f2e45444902cac32d4d03c1a56&type=album





Is this why you removed medieval Polish samples which have a bigger Balkan component than Sunghir6?

You are lucky that other members are not interested in our conversation, otherwise they would notice your manipulations.

Even a drunk Russian will eventually come to the conclusion that this is an alien admixture, and not Germanic, Celtic or mythical parachuted Sardinian.

[Ylla]

Distance: 1.8799% / 0.01879918
75.4 Palaeo-Balkan
14.6 (Balto-)Slavic
10.0 Graeco-Roman

Distance to: Val_scaled
0.02759947 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.06652837 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.07927010 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.08660418 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.08731533 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.09084612 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.09287761 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.09813561 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.09936176 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.11682818 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.11727557 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.11778438 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.11862365 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.12023042 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.12079326 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.12207709 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.12782619 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.12903194 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.13087942 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.13325842 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.13385996 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.13615269 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.13776322 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.23290091 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
0.31464987 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

Just wondering, are these results with the new Albanian sample? Is Greco-Roman, essentially, admixture that was introduced during the Roman Empire/spread of Christianity?

[Far_away]

Distance: 2.0229% / 0.02022890
43.4 (Balto-)Slavic
34.4 Palaeo-Balkan
13.0 Graeco-Roman
9.0 Celtic-like
0.2 Germanic

[-{Floor}-]

This is obviously a completely wrong calculator and model. All the samples are cherrypicked. Those medieval samples from Albania are cherrypicked. (Samples have been left out in order to increase Roman Imperial) and these medieval samples from Albania probably have Slavic admixture too. That Roman Imperial sample has Balkan admixture and people from East Med did not have any kind of significant genetic impact on the Balkans. There are almost no Y-DNa traced to such populations. And those Roman Illyrians plot between Thracian Iron Age and Illyrian Iron Age and aren't East Med, Albos basically just shift more North / and some shift North-East mostly due to Slavic compared to the Roman / Early Medieval period.


That guy Davidski has also named many of these samples wrong on his spreadsheet.

[-{Floor}-]

There is obviously no such thing as significant East Med or Anatolian input in the Balkans during Roman Period if we also look at this PCA Map , and especially not post Roman period . Just theories that you people pulled out of your ass. Even more hilarious using samples that have obvious Balkan admixture.

https://i.imgur.com/JU5gMx4.png



Roman Illyrians plot between Thracians and Illyrians from Iron Age. Thracian from 400 AD is also not shifted towards East Med. Samples from Medieval Bulgaria are North-East shifted.

[Abriekman]

Roman Illyrians plot between Thracians and Illyrians from Iron Age. Thracian from 400 AD is also not shifted towards East Med. Samples from Medieval Bulgaria are North-East shifted.

I am not going to debate with you but if you look at Bulgarian Middle Ages sample, it's about 20-25% Assyrian-like, so I believe people from different parts of Byzantine were displaced there.

[Appollonia]

Target: Appollonia_scaled
Distance: 1.2000% / 0.01200037
69.6
Germanic
23.4
Celtic-like
7.0
(Balto-)Slavic

[Vessna]

Mine:

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.9842% / 0.01984162
97.8(Balto-)Slavic
2.2Turkic

My hubs

Target: Muaddib_scaled
Distance: 2.6413% / 0.02641269
80.4(Balto-)Slavic
16.2Finnic-like
3.4Turkic

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[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02017530 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
0.02758888 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
0.02807006 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
0.03500964 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
0.03573685 Germanic:SZ13___AD_488___Coverage_70.31%
0.03631814 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.03683209 Germanic:R2204___AD_150___Coverage_65.74%
0.03879770 Germanic:SZ2___AD_508___Coverage_99.66%
0.03990876 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%
0.04380403 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
0.04768714 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.04955325 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.05171676 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.05640321 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.06379059 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.06520574 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.07495711 (Balto-)Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.07872717 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA011
0.07996799 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA001
0.08193953 (Balto-)Slavic:DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA_KRA009
0.08218676 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.12402403 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.18375181 Graeco-Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial_RMPR76
0.19386562 Finnic-like:Udmurt11
0.31059506 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman_MA2195

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4856% / 0.01485648
78.2 Germanic
19.0 Celtic-like
1.6 (Balto-)Slavic
1.2 Palaeo-Balkan

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4898% / 0.01489777
58.4 Germanic:CL146___AD_605___Coverage_71.88%
13.6 Germanic:SZ16___AD_508___Coverage_54.61%
11.0 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
7.8 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
3.8 Germanic:SZ7___AD_508___Coverage_63.80%
2.0 Germanic:SZ15___AD_508___Coverage_99.90%
2.0 Germanic:CL92___AD_605___Coverage_64.15%
1.4 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839

[rothaer]

Target: Appollonia_scaled
Distance: 1.2000% / 0.01200037
69.6
Germanic
23.4
Celtic-like
7.0
(Balto-)Slavic

But you can not be from Austria with that high Germanic. Or what's your ancestry?

[rothaer]

This is obviously a completely wrong calculator and model.

No.


All the samples are cherrypicked.

Of course. What did you think how a well considered calculator is made?

[true_southron]

Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 0.9921% / 0.00992148
34.0 Palaeo-Balkan
22.6 Celtic-like
20.4 Graeco-Roman
18.4 (Balto-)Slavic
4.2 Germanic
0.4 Turkic

Distance to: true_southron_scaled
0.04733501 Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839
0.04808059 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.05766953 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.06328011 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.06343012 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.06720466 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG
0.06908308 Celtic-like:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715
0.07292396 Celtic-like:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG
0.09081024 Germanic:ALH_1___AD_450___Coverage_94.81%
0.09107861 Germanic:SZ22___AD_508___Coverage_59.28%

[true_southron]

Is Palaeo-Balkan:ALB_MA_I13839 good representative of actual Paleo-Balkanic people? Not that it matters a lot, but I see she has mtDNA that has even distribution around Europe

[yngviktor]

Target: Viktor
Distance: 1.0549% / 0.01054881
52.4 (Balto-)Slavic
37.4 Palaeo-Balkan
7.6 Graeco-Roman
2.0 Germanic
0.6 Turkic

[Appollonia]

But you can not be from Austria with that high Germanic. Or what's your ancestry?

I mixed up residence and country of birth. It's changed now.

[rothaer]

I mixed up residence and country of birth. It's changed now.

If your four grandparents would come from the same region, Central and Northern Hesse would correspond with your result. I actually don't see it possible to move you from that tiny area in any direction without getting your results in a contradiction to that. This is just applicable if you do have all your four grandparents from the same region which is, admittedly, somewhat unlikely for a German...

[true_southron]

For me this one works the best:



Paleo_Balkan:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Paleo_Balkan:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
Paleo_Balkan:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
Paleo_Balkan:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
Paleo_Balkan:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Paleo_Balkan:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
Paleo_Balkan:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036


That way Paleo-Balkan is better differentiated and Celtic part does not end in Paleo-Balkan. I also moved I4331 to Celtic category because this sample is closer to Celtic than Paleo-Balkan (although in reality intermediary, maybe half North-Illyrian & half-Celtic?):


Distance to: Paleo_Balkan:I4331
0.02490927 Swiss_Italian:Swiss_Italian3

This is a combination of two calculators (this one by CommonSense (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?344145-Try-out-my-new-5-way-Balkan-ancestry-model-for-vahaduo-Eurogenes-K13-and-G25) with Celtic section from the current one)

PS. On a second thought I4331 is still 65% Paleo-Balkan + 25% Celtic + 10% Germanic, so I'll put it back into Paleo-Balkan category.

[true_southron]

Distance to: true_southron_scaled
0.03983354 Paleo_Balkan:I4331
0.04421809 Paleo_Balkan:I3313
0.04573752 Paleo_Balkan:I4332
0.04808059 Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716
0.05519798 Paleo_Balkan:MJ12
0.05766953 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG
0.06328011 Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713
0.06343012 Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712
0.06541663 Paleo_Balkan:I5769
0.06720466 Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG


Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 0.5598% / 0.00559839
29.6 Paleo_Balkan
27.2 Slavic
24.4 Celtic
18.8 Eastern_Mediterranean


That's kind of comparable to my new Illustrative DNA results.

[true_southron]

For a bit more fun, try this one:


North_Illyrian:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
North_Illyrian:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
North_Illyrian:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
North_Illyrian:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
South_Illyrian:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
South_Illyrian:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
South_Illyrian:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916

[true_southron]

This is how I plot on PCA:

https://i.ibb.co/CmbkkHX/plot1.png

[Ahmet]

For me this one works the best:



Paleo_Balkan:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Paleo_Balkan:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
Paleo_Balkan:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
Paleo_Balkan:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
Paleo_Balkan:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Paleo_Balkan:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
Paleo_Balkan:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036


That way Paleo-Balkan is better differentiated and Celtic part does not end in Paleo-Balkan. I also moved I4331 to Celtic category because this sample is closer to Celtic than Paleo-Balkan (although in reality intermediary, maybe half North-Illyrian & half-Celtic?):


Distance to: Paleo_Balkan:I4331
0.02490927 Swiss_Italian:Swiss_Italian3

This is a combination of two calculators (this one by CommonSense (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?344145-Try-out-my-new-5-way-Balkan-ancestry-model-for-vahaduo-Eurogenes-K13-and-G25) with Celtic section from the current one)

PS. On a second thought I4331 is still 65% Paleo-Balkan + 25% Celtic + 10% Germanic, so I'll put it back into Paleo-Balkan category.

Your model is much better for me

Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 2.4373% / 0.02437336
80.0 Eastern_Mediterranean
20.0 Turkic

[Katarzyna]

For a bit more fun, try this one:


North_Illyrian:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
North_Illyrian:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
North_Illyrian:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
North_Illyrian:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
South_Illyrian:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
South_Illyrian:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
South_Illyrian:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.3286% / 0.01328640



Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.3286% / 0.01328640
78.4 Slavic
21.4 Germanic
0.2 Turkic

[Far_away]

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North_Illyrian:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
North_Illyrian:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
North_Illyrian:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
North_Illyrian:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
South_Illyrian:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
South_Illyrian:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
South_Illyrian:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916



Distance: 1.4722% / 0.01472180
48.6 Slavic
32.0 South_Illyrian
12.6 North_Illyrian
6.8 Eastern_Mediterranean

[Dušan]

For me this one works the best:



Paleo_Balkan:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Paleo_Balkan:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
Paleo_Balkan:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
Paleo_Balkan:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
Paleo_Balkan:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Paleo_Balkan:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
Paleo_Balkan:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036


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Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6035% / 0.01603502
63.2 Slavic
29.0 Paleo_Balkan
7.8 Eastern_Mediterranean

[Dušan]

For a bit more fun, try this one:


North_Illyrian:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
North_Illyrian:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
North_Illyrian:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
North_Illyrian:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
South_Illyrian:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
South_Illyrian:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
South_Illyrian:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916




Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6035% / 0.01603502
63.2 Slavic
18.4 South_Illyrian
10.6 North_Illyrian
7.8 Eastern_Mediterranean

[true_southron]

For the 2nd calculator:

Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 0.5598% / 0.00559826
27.2 Slavic
25.0 Celtic
20.6 South_Illyrian
18.8 Eastern_Mediterranean
8.4 North_Illyrian

[MandM]

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.0218% / 0.01021836 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.6 Slavic
32.2 North_Illyrian
14.0 Eastern_Mediterranean
13.2 South_Illyrian

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.0218% / 0.01021836 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Paleo_Balkan
40.6 Slavic
12.0 Eastern_Mediterranean

[true_southron]

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.0218% / 0.01021836 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.6 Slavic
32.2 North_Illyrian
14.0 Eastern_Mediterranean
13.2 South_Illyrian

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.0218% / 0.01021836 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Paleo_Balkan
40.6 Slavic
12.0 Eastern_Mediterranean

Excellent results bro, you're a true present day Balkan person. A bit of everything from Balkan history :)

[MandM]

Excellent results bro, you're a true present day Balkan person. A bit of everything from Balkan history :)

Thx!! i guess my ancestors did what they could to make it so :D

[Katarzyna]

So many Balkanic men doing the tests. You are all so hot! :)

[Beowulf]

For a bit more fun, try this one:


North_Illyrian:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
North_Illyrian:I4332,0.120652,0.147252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
North_Illyrian:I4331,0.12862,0.151314,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
North_Illyrian:MJ12,0.135449,0.138112,0.015462,-0.012274,0.020927,-0.008088,0.00235,-0.007384,-0.006545,0.034625,0.000487,0.008542,-0.008325,-0.008533,-0.014522,0.005171,0.025946,-0.000127,0.011439,0.005878,-0.019091,0.007666,0.004067,0.011929,-0.000239
South_Illyrian:I9033,0.091058,0.150298,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
South_Illyrian:I9006,0.119514,0.160454,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
South_Illyrian:I5769,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Eastern_Mediterranean:Levant_Sidon_MBA:ERS1790733, 0.079676,0.137096,-0.063733,-0.102714,-0.015695,-0.029284,0.00423,-0.007384,0.007567,0.011845,0.00341,-0.010491,0.020812,0.011698,-0.003122,0.004508,0.001304,0.001394,-0.002765,0.005127,0.005116,0.005812,-0.008751,0.000964,-0.002994
Eastern_Mediterranean:Greek_Cappadocia,0.1110913,0 .1414632,-0.04137,-0.0611439,-0.0152951,-0.0183787,0.0027025,-0.0038535,-0.0186525,0.0094217,0.003118,0.0032071,-0.0027949,0.0059728,-0.0097175,-0.0057411,0.0004955,0.0029265,0.0059706,-0.0039268,0.0009358,0.0047976,-0.003685,-0.0006267,0.0019399
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR115,0.105855,0.145221,-0.02225,-0.065892,-0.001846,-0.01255,0.00188,0.002538,-0.00225,0.019317,0.002598,0.006294,-0.005054,0.001927,-0.011401,-0.001724,0.009127,-0.000253,0.003645,-0.011631,-0.007112,0.004328,-0.003821,0.004699,-0.003952
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR126,0.101303,0.150298,-0.038466,-0.074936,-0.005847,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.007154,-0.003681,0.027882,0.004872,0.002698,-0.000892,0.001514,-0.009772,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.006968,0.002263,-0.009004,-0.004367,0.003091,-0.003328,0.003615,-0.00012
Eastern_Mediterranean:R128,0.118376,0.150298,-0.033187,-0.052326,-0.006463,-0.022311,0.001175,-0.011538,-0.018612,0.018953,0.005034,0.006294,-0.007433,0.014588,-0.019137,-0.012994,-0.007171,0.004561,0.003897,-0.013256,-0.003244,0.000618,0.005423,-0.000361,-0.008622
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1550,0.084229,0.140143,-0.047517,-0.074613,-0.012925,-0.026216,-0.0094,-0.007154,0.014112,0.005467,-0.000974,-0.002698,0.008622,-0.008257,0.001086,0.014983,0.014864,0.004814,-0.009302,0.002876,-0.001872,0.006183,0.004683,0.000843,-0.001676
Eastern_Mediterranean:RMPR1551,0.100164,0.142174,-0.058454,-0.066861,-0.023081,-0.013387,0.00141,0.002308,-0.026793,0.000729,0.009094,0.003897,-0.015163,0.007432,0.000679,-0.02254,-0.009779,0.002154,0.002011,0.012131,0.007237,0.008 408,-0.000739,-0.004699,0.00479
Slavic:Sunghir6,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.06007 8,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.0 35391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Slavic:VK287,0.127482,0.128972,0.068259,0.059755,0 .040623,0.023148,0.013866,0.013615,-0.004909,-0.02041,-0.003897,-0.006894,0.014717,0.023946,-0.0038,-0.007292,-0.008866,0.005954,0.00176,0.015758,0.004742,-0.014591,0.007025,-0.011688,-0.009819
Slavic:VK212,0.124067,0.135065,0.075424,0.072029,0 .038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.020538,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Slavic:VK159,0.121791,0.135065,0.077687,0.079135,0 .040931,0.0251,0.0047,0.01523,0.00225,-0.0277,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.015609,0.017616,-0.013029,0.020949,0.021253,-0.008615,-0.007165,0.011255,-0.006239,-0.00915,0.007641,-0.002771,0.003712
Slavic:VK454,0.125205,0.120848,0.055814,0.054587,0 .046778,0.021475,0.00235,0.008307,0.008795,-0.01549,-0.009256,-0.014687,0.002973,0.025047,-0.018458,0.007823,0.019949,-0.004434,0.001885,-0.002001,-0.008735,-0.000989,0.007765,-0.001807,-0.001676
Slavic:VK541,0.122929,0.12491,0.058831,0.052972,0. 032314,0.01757,0.00705,0.01223,-0.005113,-0.015672,-0.00065,-0.004946,0.014866,0.022708,-0.015336,-0.001856,0.008736,-0.002027,-0.00088,0.004127,-0.005615,-0.012984,0.009737,-0.005422,0.004191
Slavic:VK542,0.118376,0.125926,0.062225,0.04845,0. 028621,0.012271,0.00705,0.011769,-0.007363,-0.020775,-0.000162,-0.001499,0.013082,0.025873,-0.012622,-0.004906,-0.014342,-0.002027,-0.000377,0.002626,-0.002371,0.000989,0.003697,-0.006025,0.005149
Slavic:VK272,0.125205,0.121864,0.069013,0.049096,0 .021542,0.01757,0.015511,0.009,-0.001841,-0.01057,0.005034,-0.006145,0.018583,0.034268,-0.008415,-0.003182,-0.002086,-0.002154,-0.002388,0.003877,-0.00287,-0.006554,0.003328,0.00482,0.001796
Slavic:VK340,0.126344,0.129988,0.072784,0.060724,0 .032929,0.030957,0.012691,0.015922,0.005522,-0.01713,-0.006333,-0.007943,0.010555,0.025873,-0.003529,-0.003182,0.015776,0.002914,0.006788,0.004377,-0.007237,-0.003462,0.012202,-0.001205,-0.004191
Germanic:DA119,0.124067,0.135065,0.059585,0.043282 ,0.041238,0.017291,-0.001175,0.002769,0.002659,-0.00328,-0.003248,0.007044,-0.012487,-0.006606,0.0057,0.020154,0.002217,0.000127,-0.000377,-0.00075,-0.00287,0.004081,0.000986,0.021328,0.000599
Germanic:RISE174,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.0584 63,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034, 0.048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
Germanic:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481 ,0.045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
Germanic:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.048127, 0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
Germanic:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.042959, 0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
Turkic:DA101,0.087644,-0.040621,0.024513,0.046835,-0.043393,0.017849,0,-0.000462,-0.022293,-0.022415,-0.013965,-0.007493,0.000743,-0.021332,0.011536,0.014452,0.002738,-0.003674,0.002263,5e-04,-0.007612,0.004081,0.000493,0.008073,0.006945
Turkic:DA104,0.087644,-0.098506,0.046763,0.041344,-0.048317,0.001673,0.004465,-0.002077,-0.012476,-0.023873,-0.011042,0,-0.001933,-0.029589,0.013843,0.011138,0.00665,-0.000127,0.002011,0.003752,-0.017594,0.00779,-0.001232,0.012411,-0.001676
Turkic:DA385,0.087644,-0.105615,0.046763,0.043928,-0.046162,0.010877,0.00658,0.007615,-0.017385,-0.018588,-0.01429,0.001948,0.001784,-0.018717,0.014522,0.000928,-0.010561,0.00076,0.003897,0.002376,-0.017844,0.003215,0.005176,-0.00241,0.007544
Turkic:DA65,0.079676,-0.087336,0.043369,0.034884,-0.024928,0.00753,-0.010575,-0.001615,-0.005113,-0.012028,-0.005359,-0.008842,0.000892,-0.014588,0.02443,0.022275,-0.004042,0.020777,-0.00088,0.008504,-0.035437,0.001978,-0.000246,0,-0.003592
Turkic:DA66,0.078538,-0.09546,0.044123,0.05814,-0.040315,0.001116,0.0094,0.005077,-0.011249,-0.017312,-0.015265,-0.003147,0.015015,-0.024497,0.014522,-0.000796,-0.007823,0.006588,-0.004399,-0.010005,-0.014474,0.000618,-0.006286,0.007471,-0.003113
Turkic:DA69,0.09675,-0.048745,0.024136,0.040698,-0.047701,0.006414,0.00705,0.004615,-0.022498,-0.01877,-0.010068,-0.005845,0.004757,-0.018992,0.012893,0.023866,-0.004042,0.001014,-0.003017,0.008254,-0.012353,-0.00507,-0.001849,0.005904,0.001317
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_Jeb8.SG,0.119514,0.1 38 112,0.055814,0.029716,0.044931,-0.006414,-0.004465,0.002077,0.009817,0.01057,0.000162,0.0080 93,-0.022894,-0.009083,0.019272,0.007823,0.002217,-0.001014,-0.000754,0.003001,-0.005615,-0.003091,-0.011832,-0.00723,0.004431
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR2B6.SG,0.118376,0 .1 42174,0.04714,0.004199,0.042469,0.000279,-0.011751,0.010615,0.019225,0.01385,0.011367,0.0113 9,-0.005203,-0.004679,0.013029,0.016176,0.030379,0.007855,0.005 656,0.003627,0.004742,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.001084,-0.010538
Celtic:France_GrandEst_IA1_SG_NOR3-15.SG,0.113823,0.148267,0.064111,0.019057,0.041238 ,-0.006693,0.00564,-0.001615,0.013703,0.019135,-0.007307,-0.001199,-0.014569,-0.013487,0.024158,-0.004508,-0.02047,-0.008235,-0.006913,0.010255,-0.003119,-0.003339,-0.017748,0.001687,-0.002036
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11712,0.12862,0.147252 ,0 .056191,0.031654,0.046778,0.006136,-0.00282,0.000692,0.00634,0.020775,-0.006658,0.004946,-0.009068,-0.01156,0.010179,0.003713,0.00013,0.002027,0.00729 ,-0.001501,-0.000749,0.00136,-0.002465,-0.00253,0.004431
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11713,0.12862,0.149283 ,0 .052797,0.02907,0.047086,0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002077,0.013499,0.016037,0.00065,0.003447,-0.01219,-0.015276,0.004479,0.005436,-0.003912,0.007475,0.000628,-0.001376,0.001872,0.003833,-0.005053,-0.001566,-0.005149
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11715,0.122929,0.14826 7, 0.061471,0.02907,0.033852,0.010877,0.003055,0.0119 99,0.011044,0.025149,-0.000162,0.002548,-0.012933,0,0.012215,-0.004906,-0.017602,0.000633,0.011439,-0.009254,0.004991,-0.000124,-0.003451,-0.000602,0.017244
Celtic:Slovakia_LIA_LaTene_I11716,0.129758,0.14115 9, 0.047517,0.011951,0.04647,0.007251,-0.00376,-0.004846,0.00859,0.023326,-0.003897,0.010491,-0.013974,0.001789,-0.000271,-0.004508,0.007693,0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,-0.001248,0.008903,0.000739,-0.00241,0.001916


I added Iberian for me:

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0135% / 0.01349452 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.3 Iberian
21.2 Germanic
10.5 Eastern_Mediterranean
9.0 Slavic

without it:


Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0166% / 0.01664067
79.5 Celtic
15.9 Eastern_Mediterranean
3.1 Slavic
1.5 Germanic

[Abaddon]

So many Balkanic men doing the tests. You are all so hot! :)

You cant control your horniness, right?