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MandM
08-30-2023, 12:19 PM
My Wifes Uncle! Got his illustrative G25 cords, thought i would share with you some results from Davidski Modern and Ancient.. and if you have any inputs pls do tell.
He is Montenegrin from Kolasin, Tribes are Rovcani on his fathers side and on his Mothers side they are Kuci. I will give you all his G25 if any one wants to use them

Rade_Montenegro,0.125205,0.135065,0.032055,0.00936 7,0.030467,0.00502,0.00376,0.010153,-0.000409,0.007654,0.004384,0.002698,0.003717,0.019 955,-0.015065,0.01074,0.02373,-0.000633,0.006788,0.002001,-0.019216,-0.000866,0.003574,0.001084,-0.005149


Distance to: Rade
0.02771986 Macedonian
0.02901239 Montenegrin
0.03128131 Serbian
0.03141873 Romanian
0.03338842 Bulgarian
0.03547058 Bosnian
0.03684382 Moldovan
0.03970389 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.04027862 Gagauz
0.04395291 Italian_Northeast
0.04627314 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.04632233 Rumelia_East
0.04651661 Albanian
0.04728961 Croatian
0.05042145 Greek_Macedonia
0.05135729 Slovenian
0.05291878 Italian_Veneto
0.05300853 Austrian
0.05357126 Hungarian
0.05438031 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.05453718 Swiss_Italian
0.05510501 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.05535179 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.05543560 Greek_Thessaly
0.05658666 Turkish_Deliorman


Target: Rade
Distance: 2.6683% / 0.02668333 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.2 Macedonian
39.8 Montenegrin

Target: Rade
Distance: 2.3057% / 0.02305704 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Greek_Cyclades_Kea
38.4 Slovakian
21.0 Macedonian
1.6 Cossack_Kuban

Target: Rade
Distance: 2.2579% / 0.02257938
39.8 Greek_Cyclades_Kea
23.0 Slovakian
18.6 Albanian
17.2 Lithuanian_RA
1.2 Sardinian
0.2 Khonda_Dora



Distance to: Rade
0.03789945 Hungary_NorthHungaryMountains_LAvar
0.03821688 Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG
0.03982595 Croatia_MLBA_alt
0.04060139 Slovakia_LIA
0.04078808 Italy_Medieval_o1.SG
0.04299824 Bulgaria_Medieval
0.04359678 Slovakia_Mikusovce_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.04463718 Hungary_Transtisza_LSarmation_EHun
0.04596347 Hungary_IA_LaTene_o
0.04601625 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug
0.04625616 Hungary_IA_Scythian_oAegean.SG
0.04719173 Croatia_Mursa_Roman.SG
0.04827029 Hungary_MidAvar
0.04921634 Bulgaria_EBA_o2
0.04957652 Slovakia_TesarkeMlynany_Germanic_MigrationPeriod.S G
0.04958129 Albania_Modern
0.04971091 Croatia_Popova_RomanP.SG
0.05035429 Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros
0.05043677 Hungary_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat
0.05049028 Serbia_LBA
0.05076281 Hungary_Transtisza_Roman_Sarmation
0.05084758 Hungary_Langobard_o2
0.05214284 Croatia_MLBA
0.05229720 Bulgaria_EBA_oNorth_in.preparation
0.05253879 Hungary_LaTene



Target: Rade
Distance: 2.4325% / 0.02432471 | ADC: 1x RC
53.6 Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG
34.8 Albania_Modern
11.6 Hungary_NorthHungaryMountains_LAvar

Target: Rade
Distance: 2.3579% / 0.02357905 | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.6 Albania_Modern
29.4 Montenegro_Doclea_Roman.SG
24.8 Hungary_IA_LaTene_o
6.2 Ukraine_Cimmerians.SG
4.0 Hungary_NorthHungaryMountains_LAvar

Target: Rade
Distance: 1.9402% / 0.01940169 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.8 Albania_Modern
32.4 Ukraine_Medieval.SG
9.8 Ukraine_Cimmerians.SG
7.2 Hungary_LBA_Halva
1.2 Kazakhstan_Kipchak1.SG
0.6 Indonesia_LN_BA_IA.SG

Target: Rade
Distance: 1.5590% / 0.01558974
30.0 Hungary_Transtisza_Maros_EAvar
19.2 Serbia_Viminacium_Roman.SG
15.0 Lithuania_Bailuliai_BarrowCulture.SG
13.0 Ukraine_Cimmerians.SG
8.6 Greece_Roman
4.4 Serbia_Naissus_LateAntiquity.SG
3.8 Montenegro_LN_Hvar_possible
2.4 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
1.6 Armenia_Beniamin_Hellenistic.SG
1.0 Pakistan_Barikot_Medieval_2
0.8 India_RoopkundC
0.2 Russia_Yana_Medieval.SG
Far_away
08-30-2023, 02:33 PM
Distance to: Rade_Montenegro

0.04183017 Romanian_Dobruja
0.04192975 Vlach_Serbia
0.04218456 Bulgarian_Northwestern
0.04232122 Romanian_Oltenia
0.04233303 Romanian_Muntenia
0.04270641 Moldovan_South
0.04277940 Romanian_Moldavia_South
0.04279605 Romanian_Banat
0.04285911 Romanian_Transylvania
0.04295869 Montenegro_SouthEast
0.04318073 Bulgarian_Southwestern
0.04323845 Bulgarian_Northcentral
0.04373964 Pomak_Bulgaria
0.04385428 Bulgarian_Southcentral
0.04390740 Serb_KosovoMetohija


Target: Rade_Montenegro
Distance: 2.0167% / 0.02016656 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2 Slavic
23.2 Thracian
20.6 Anatolian
1.0 Illyrian
Far_away
08-30-2023, 02:37 PM
im not fully Montenegrin but we are kinda similar


Distance to: Far

0.03105398 Montenegro_SouthEast
0.03164340 Vlach_Serbia
0.03175037 Serb_KosovoMetohija
0.03177816 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
0.03200765 Romanian_Oltenia
0.03216584 Bulgarian_Northwestern
0.03223281 Romanian_Banat
0.03260060 Serb_SouthSerbia
0.03264230 Romanian_Transylvania
0.03280535 Bulgarian_Southwestern
0.03292447 Romanian_Dobruja
0.03293445 Serb_Vojvodina
0.03293762 Moldovan_South
0.03300631 Romanian_Muntenia
0.03323122 Romanian_Crisana

Target: Far
Distance: 1.3355% / 0.01335530 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.2 Slavic
27.8 Illyrian
26.0 Anatolian
MandM
08-30-2023, 05:46 PM
Distance to: Rade_Montenegro

0.04183017 Romanian_Dobruja
0.04192975 Vlach_Serbia
0.04218456 Bulgarian_Northwestern
0.04232122 Romanian_Oltenia
0.04233303 Romanian_Muntenia
0.04270641 Moldovan_South
0.04277940 Romanian_Moldavia_South
0.04279605 Romanian_Banat
0.04285911 Romanian_Transylvania
0.04295869 Montenegro_SouthEast
0.04318073 Bulgarian_Southwestern
0.04323845 Bulgarian_Northcentral
0.04373964 Pomak_Bulgaria
0.04385428 Bulgarian_Southcentral
0.04390740 Serb_KosovoMetohija


Target: Rade_Montenegro
Distance: 2.0167% / 0.02016656 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2 Slavic
23.2 Thracian
20.6 Anatolian
1.0 Illyrian

What calculator did you use? yours give way other results then Davidski's
Far_away
08-30-2023, 10:41 PM
What calculator did you use? yours give way other results then Davidski's

https://pastebin.com/0UH3edHJ

https://pastebin.com/Khn11esS
MandM
08-31-2023, 05:45 AM
https://pastebin.com/0UH3edHJ

https://pastebin.com/Khn11esS

Question is witch one is more correct, when I see the results i lean more twords Davidski's calculators, they are not 100% but think better then this 2
Far_away
08-31-2023, 10:49 AM
Question is witch one is more correct, when I see the results i lean more twords Davidski's calculators, they are not 100% but think better then this 2

Montenegrin will lead more to Romanian average or Bulgarian because Montenegrins are less slavic than Serbs from Serbia,Bosnia.
on my gedmatch it is always Bulgarian or Romanian on my first population list not Serbian. It is same with him im 100% sure. Is this what confused you?

on ancient balkan calc i got it from guy who knows this things very good, and it is what we are, balkan people are mix of Slavs,Illyrians,Thracian and ancient Anatolians. Only he should get Illyrian and not Thracian but it is still old balkan. You can try other calcs for him there are lots of them here, best are ones from Feiichy.
MandM
08-31-2023, 02:17 PM
Montenegrin will lead more to Romanian average or Bulgarian because Montenegrins are less slavic than Serbs from Serbia,Bosnia.
on my gedmatch it is always Bulgarian or Romanian on my first population list not Serbian. It is same with him im 100% sure. Is this what confused you?

on ancient balkan calc i got it from guy who knows this things very good, and it is what we are, balkan people are mix of Slavs,Illyrians,Thracian and ancient Anatolians. Only he should get Illyrian and not Thracian but it is still old balkan. You can try other calcs for him there are lots of them here, best are ones from Feiichy.
Here uncle am not sure what we should get, becouse i just got his g25, but I tested my wife ,me and here Mother also on your Balkan calculators, and it shows a slightly elivated slavic, and The Anatolian i guess they are Greeks samples from West Anatolia, and they are also elivated in my opinion, some of us got more Anatolian then Balkan, and i know i allways get more Thracian or illyrian then, Anatolia or Greece

This is mine What i have seende Anatolian is way to high and Paleobalkan to low

Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.7039% / 0.01703881
40.2 Slavic
33.8 Anatolian
24.8 Illyrian
1.2 Thracian