Classify Sultan bin bajad Al-Otaibi

[Saruman]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Sultan_Al-Otaibi.jpg



He was a leader of the Ikhwan movement in Saudi Arabia.

He was illiterate and very religious - strongly believing in the fundamentalist Wahabi principles. He fought the enemies of the Saudi kings, while considering them infidels and disbelievers.


Arabid.

[Artek]

Arabid
:thumbs up

[StonyArabia]

Arabid.

He belongs to the Utabih tribe. The Utabih tribe has long associated with the Sauds who are a clan of the Anizah and intermarried with them. They also are the current rulers of Bahrain. The Utahbih have been one of the most loyal allies to the Saud regime and it's Wahabist tenants, to this day. However after the Saud allied with the British, he considered this a sin and rebelled but was defeated. The Mutair, Utabih and the Hotiwat were all allied to the Sauds and Hashemites who participated in the Arab revolt with British help against the Ottoman empire, in contrast to the more loyal Arabian tribes like the Shammar, Muntafaq.

In general the people of the Utabih tribe tend to be taller than the average peoples in that region.

[GeistFaust]

Arabid. A scary combination of anthropological progressiveness and religious fanaticism.

[StonyArabia]

Arabid. A scary combination of anthropological progressiveness and religious fanaticism.

Wahabism in it's origins was more a nationalist and an Arabian nationalist movement disguised as a religious enterprise, and it wanted to unite the Arabian tribes into one body through that system. Wahabism for example tried to re-Arabize Islam from what was perceived to be Persian and other alien influences. It also wanted Arabia to be free from Ottoman control, since many of the tribes felt oppressed. Wahabism is different from Salafism, which has become an almost a synonym with it, due to similar theological practices and it eventually merged into one system known as Salafi. Today the Sauds are able to rule through alliances and intermarriage with other powerful tribes that are loyal to their ideology and them such as the Mutair, Utabih, Hotiwat, who are known to form considerable importance in the military, religious and political life of the kingdom. Well other tribes are seen as inferior and traitors.The Arab nationalist movement had both a religious and as well a secular face but the goal was to end the Ottoman empire.To this particular individual it was more religious, but as well to have his tribe gain political influence at the same time.

[Hurrem sultana]

In general the people of the Utabih tribe tend to be taller than the average peoples in that region.



Bin Laden was 195 cm

what tribe?

[askra]

He looks like Osama Bin Laden, but osama looked like a good fellow compared to him! :D

[Anthropologique]

Big-time archaic Arabid. Looks like a Middle Eastern version of Rasputin.:eek:

[Saruman]

Arabid.

In general the people of the Utabih tribe tend to be taller than the average peoples in that region.

Well I've seen among Saudi royals both short and tall people. But Bin Bajad's ally and later foe Ibn Saud was also a very tall, progressive and "scary" looking individual,
http://www.arabianheritagesource.com/userfiles/0311/Abdulazizibn%20saud.jpg

And here Ibn Saud in center, around him many British officers and other Arabs, he's the tallest.
http://mechristian.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/90504_1229602972400341500.jpg

So that seems to have been a prerequisite of bedouin rulers, tall, progressive dominant look.
In modern times Bin Laden was also 6'5" man.



Wahabism in it's origins was more a nationalist and an Arabian nationalist movement disguised as a religious enterprise, and it wanted to unite the Arabian tribes into one body through that system. Wahabism for example tried to re-Arabize Islam from what was perceived to be Persian and other alien influences. It also wanted Arabia to be free from Ottoman control, since many of the tribes felt oppressed. Wahabism is different from Salafism, which has become an almost a synonym with it, due to similar theological practices and it eventually merged into one system known as Salafi. Today the Sauds are able to rule through alliances and intermarriage with other powerful tribes that are loyal to their ideology and them such as the Mutair, Utabih, Hotiwat, who are known to form considerable importance in the military, religious and political life of the kingdom. Well other tribes are seen as inferior and traitors.The Arab nationalist movement had both a religious and as well a secular face but the goal was to end the Ottoman empire.To this particular individual it was more religious, but as well to have his tribe gain political influence at the same time.

So Salafism is a more sincere fanatical religious worldview, egalitarian.. While Ibn Abdul-Wahhab's was more local pro-nationalist. I've analysed various religions, and no doubt in Islam logically Salafis have a point that their Islam is the closest to original Islam, because original Islam was a product of Arabid bedouins. So yes I do view Islam, that is original Islam as one manifestation of Arabid "soul" to put it that way, and critical to Rabbinical Judaism in many respects, the latter being in big part product of reduced Armenids from their chaotic cities such as Babylon, Islam (Arabid) criticizes this "hypocrisy" of Judaism (Armenid), "twisting of words and their meaning", million of exceptions and explanations, with a more direct, sincere approach in line with a more progressive, dynamic and fanatical mentality of Arabids as very often "elastic" (more pronounced) leptomorphs.

[StonyArabia]

Bin Laden was 195 cm

what tribe?

Bin Laden was very atypical of Arabians especially his height. He belonged to the non-tribal populations from Hadhramaut region of Yemen. His father migrated to Saudi Arabia, and his mother was also of Syrian origins, not a native Arabian, and this why his height was unknown virtually in Arabia. His family has strong to ties to the Saud monarchy as well. In Yemen his height is totally out of question and not typical at all.

[Agrippa]

Arabids indeed.

[StonyArabia]

Well I've seen among Saudi royals both short and tall people. But Bin Bajad's ally and later foe Ibn Saud was also a very tall, progressive and "scary" looking individual,
http://www.arabianheritagesource.com/userfiles/0311/Abdulazizibn%20saud.jpg

There could be some selection to how some of the tribal leaders looked like. For example the Bedouin tribes often valued in the leader, strength, courage, honor, dignity and pride. So this might account for the difference between the leaders and the general population. Ibn Saud and Bin Bajad were both tribal leaders of their groups.



And here Ibn Saud in center, around him many British officers and other Arabs, he's the tallest.
http://mechristian.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/90504_1229602972400341500.jpg

So that seems to have been a prerequisite of bedouin rulers, tall, progressive dominant look.
In modern times Bin Laden was also 6'5" man.

This does seem to be the case . Bin Laden was non-tribal and part Levantine which makes him atypical to the people of Arabia. What is interesting is that Ibn Saud is of the same height or slightly taller than the British officials but not with the Arabs that are around him.



So Salafism is a more sincere fanatical religious worldview, egalitarian.. While Ibn Abdul-Wahhab's was more local pro-nationalist. I've analysed various religions, and no doubt in Islam logically Salafis have a point that their Islam is the closest to original Islam, because original Islam was a product of Arabid bedouins.

Indeed. The goal of the Wahabis was to get rid of the Ottomans and unite Arabia, and then re-Arabize Islam. The reason Wahabis opposed Sufism and Shiaism because they saw Islam had been defiled by Persian Zoroastrianism and mysticism. At the same time there was a movement that grew similar in theological tenants but different in it's political ideology and application being more universal and this was the Salafi movement. The word Salafi means ancestors, basically it means returning to the pure faith. Salafism and Wahabism would eventually merge together and be known by the term as Salaf. Salafism would be the closest to the original Islam that has been unmixed with Persian, Greek and Indian mysticism unlike the other sects and is far more Arabian than Shiaism it's archenemy.



So yes I do view Islam, that is original Islam as one manifestation of Arabid "soul" to put it that way, and critical to Rabbinical Judaism in many respects, the latter being in big part product of reduced Armenids from their chaotic cities such as Babylon, Islam (Arabid) criticizes this "hypocrisy" of Judaism (Armenid), "twisting of words and their meaning", million of exceptions and explanations, with a more direct, sincere approach in line with a more progressive, dynamic and fanatical mentality of Arabids as very often "elastic" (more pronounced) leptomorphs.

Basically this is truth, and God how ugly reduced Armenids look. The Arabids have always valued nomadism and spirituality, unlike the reduced Armenids who valued parasitism and materialism through settling in unwanted lands and taking advantage of it. As well the Arabid has courage pride, honor, dignity unlike the reduced Armenid that is cowardly by nature.

[Smeagol]

Arabid.