Gedmatch Hunter Gatherer vs Farmer Calculator

[Eurafricanid]

Post your results for the Eurogenes Hunter Gatherer vs Farmer Calculator from Gedmatch.
Post all of the results, please.



Mine:


<tbody>
Anatolian Farmer
3.28 Pct


Baltic Hunter Gatherer
15.16 Pct


Middle Eastern Herder
4.27 Pct


East Asian Farmer
-


South American Hunter Gatherer
2.7 Pct


South Asian Hunter Gatherer
-


North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer
0.86 Pct


East African Pastoralist
4.57 Pct


Oceanian Hunter Gatherer
0.62 Pct


Mediterranean Farmer
26.28 Pct


Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
3.76 Pct


Bantu Farmer
38.48 Pct

</tbody>

[Beowulf]

Mediterranean Farmer 44.07 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 38.96 Pct
Anatolian Farmer 7.34 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 7.2 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.38 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.8 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.38 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.62 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.25 Pct
Bantu Farmer -

[Katarzyna]

Anatolian Farmer 7.61 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 69.14 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 0.52 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.11 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.12 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 20.93 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.57 Pct
Bantu Farmer -

[rothaer]

rothaer:
https://i.imgur.com/W3CCIwt.jpg

rothaer_child1-5 (full siblings)
https://i.imgur.com/mN9cgYe.jpg

rothaer_wife2:
https://i.imgur.com/7FJBSyH.jpg

rothaer_child6-8 (full siblings, half siblings to the former)
https://i.imgur.com/yj2sn0u.jpg

[rothaer]

Anatolian Farmer 7.61 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 69.14 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 0.52 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.11 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.12 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 20.93 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.57 Pct
Bantu Farmer -

Your Baltic HG is nicely high.

Here's the result of an individual indigenous to Pärnu, Southern Estonia = Northernmost Livonia:

https://i.imgur.com/W3pkAin.jpg

[rothaer]

Here's the result of an individual from Kautokeino, Finnmarka, Norway, that is considered a full Sami. Obviously not yet affected by any Anatolian and Med farmer!:

https://i.imgur.com/HAkisSm.jpg

[Eurafricanid]

My results as if I were 100% European:


<tbody>
Anatolian Farmer
6.56 Pct


Baltic Hunter Gatherer
30.32 Pct


Middle Eastern Herder
8.54 Pct


East Asian Farmer
-


South American Hunter Gatherer
-


South Asian Hunter Gatherer
-


North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer
1.72 Pct


East African Pastoralist
0.16 Pct


Oceanian Hunter Gatherer
0.14 Pct


Mediterranean Farmer
52.56 Pct


Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
-


Bantu Farmer
-

</tbody>


https://i.imgur.com/jAOqwk6.png

[Erronkari]

Anatolian Farmer 5.89 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 31.45 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 1.98 Pct
East Asian Farmer 0.31 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 3.93 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.54 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.78 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 53.64 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.48 Pct
Bantu Farmer -

[Fabricius]

https://i.ibb.co/PWGysbX/Screenshot-2023-09-10-at-23-15-57-GEDmatch.png

[majevica]

Anatolian Farmer 14.1 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 47.32 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 5.52 Pct
East Asian Farmer 0.44 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.93 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.57 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 31.12 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Catnip]

Anatolian Farmer 10.04 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 45.39 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 5.95 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.74 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.69 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.17 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 36.02 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[retfala]

Anatolian Farmer 14.33 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 48.98 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 4.92 Pct
East Asian Farmer 0.84 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.93 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 30 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Mortimer]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 21.8 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 26.58 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 7.29 Pct
East Asian Farmer 2.81 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.2 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 14.65 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.8 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 25.2 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.18 Pct
Bantu Farmer 0.49 Pct

[calxpal]

With 23andme raw data

Population
Anatolian Farmer 12.74 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.54 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 4.25 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.61 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.34 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.95 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 26.57 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

With Ancestry raw data

Population
Anatolian Farmer 12.7 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.86 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 4.3 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.59 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.9 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 26.62 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[rothaer]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 21.8 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 26.58 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 7.29 Pct
East Asian Farmer 2.81 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.2 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 14.65 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.8 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 25.2 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.18 Pct
Bantu Farmer 0.49 Pct

This is the Indian contribution. Although also full Europeans can have 2+% of that and I was first scared when I found it. :shocked: But it was part of the average Yamnaya as well. Yamnaya individual I0231:

https://i.imgur.com/WQasxPB.jpg

[Gallop]

With FTDNA

https://i.postimg.cc/rw3cs4Pr/Hunter-Gatererer-FTDNAmine.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

https://i.imgur.com/ezS6kAU.png

[Julkka]

Population
Anatolian Farmer-
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 82.94
Middle Eastern Herder 0.18
East Asian Farmer 1.73
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.27
South Asian Hunter Gatherer-
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 7.85
East African Pastoralist-
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer-
Mediterranean Farmer 7.03
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer-
Bantu Farmer-

[Ugo]

https://i.imgur.com/ezS6kAU.png
Where did Europeans get Amerinds from? Was it a direct contact of pro-Amerind populations or an ANE trace or a Siberian trace?

[Grace O'Malley]

Where did Europeans get Amerinds from? Was it a direct contact of pro-Amerind populations or an ANE trace or a Siberian trace?

Misread ANE. The Yamnaya posted by rothaer above has 4.77 pct South American HG.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Mine:

Anatolian Farmer 9.71 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 56.85 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 0.82 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.27 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.33 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.51 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.65 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 28.39 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.47 Pct
Bantu Farmer -

[ScandinavianCelt]

Population
Anatolian Farmer-
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 82.94
Middle Eastern Herder 0.18
East Asian Farmer 1.73
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.27
South Asian Hunter Gatherer-
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 7.85
East African Pastoralist-
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer-
Mediterranean Farmer 7.03
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer-
Bantu Farmer-

You are officially, "Mr. B" as in Mr. Baltic. Do you have a very dominant Baltic phenotype-- face, hair, etc?

[Fabricius]

If I may, in addition to my result in GEDmatch - which is the proposal of the post - I would also like to share my prehistoric result based on Eurogenes K36. Unfortunately the page (https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm) apparently no longer exists.

https://i.ibb.co/mhrpfg3/Screenshot-2023-09-01-at-15-43-47-Tool-for-Eurogenes-K36-Timeline.png

[Ugo]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 9.58 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 70.01 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 0.29 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.56 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.13 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 2.47 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 15.77 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.19 Pct
Bantu Farmer -
No reference data for this calculator so Oracle is unavailable

[Julkka]

You are officially, "Mr. B" as in Mr. Baltic. Do you have a very dominant Baltic phenotype-- face, hair, etc?

Yes, I think I do look pretty Baltic, because I look pretty robust and I have a narrow face. I just did GeneU test and it said I'm North Pontid, but when I looked at the picture, I dont really look like that, the North Pontid was more gracile looking and more mediterranean. I have seen some Latvian people who look like me, but Finns are still quite different genetically from them, so I'm not baltic in the same sense they are.

[Kiel]

Anatolian Farmer 13.04 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 51.04 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 1.92 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.62 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.23 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.36 Pct
East African Pastoralist 0.58 Pct
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 30.7 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.52 Pct

[rothaer]

Where did Europeans get Amerinds from? Was it a direct contact of pro-Amerind populations or an ANE trace or a Siberian trace?

It can not simply be ANE as we have abt. 15% ANE in Central Europe. But I think it's ANE mediated and it I think that are those parts of ANE that later became more specific for Amerinds.

[rothaer]

Yes, I think I do look pretty Baltic, because (...)

82.94% Baltic HG is incredible.

[Katarzyna]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 9.58 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 70.01 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 0.29 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.56 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.13 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 2.47 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 15.77 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.19 Pct
Bantu Farmer -
No reference data for this calculator so Oracle is unavailable

Our results are so similar hihi

[Voskos]

Bronze age peloponnesian results , posted by member Ajeje Brazorf in another thread:

25.51 AF
9.21 BHG
16.15 MEH
49.13 MF

[rothaer]

In general it may be noted that "Anatolian Farmer" here to my conviction means CHG. Davidski stated regarding this calculator of his that it's wrong "unless you rename components".

[Voskos]

In general it may be noted that "Anatolian Farmer" here to my conviction means CHG. Davidski stated regarding this calculator of his that it's wrong "unless you rename components".

Nice new avatar brother. Xena and Cleopatra will love that new look of yours.

[cass]

Anatolian Farmer 8.33 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 65.51 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.41 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 24.71 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

very simple

[Barba]

Are southern-Germanics and northeastearn-French more " southern" than western-Balkan Slavs!?


Anatolian Farmer 10.04 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 45.39 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 5.95 Pct
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.74 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.69 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.17 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 36.02 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -


is this normal (average) result? What are your closest modern populations?

Your "Baltic" is lower than what Retfala and Majevica scored, and you got much more Mediterranean farmer. They have more "Anatolian", but you are not far behind and you have a lot "Middle East"!

[Catnip]

Are southern-Germanics and northeastearn-French more " southern" than western-Balkan Slavs!?
I don't know that, but I'm not southern shifted Swiss, rather average.


What are your closest modern populations?

0.00848816 French_Alsace
0.01126159 French_Nord
0.01192781 Swiss_German
0.01399112 BelgianC
0.01471411 BelgianB
0.01703662 French_Paris
0.02086703 BelgianA
0.02135940 French_Occitanie
0.02156926 French_Auvergne
0.02296164 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02396682 Swiss_French
0.02398889 Austrian
0.02452760 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02538418 German_Erlangen
0.02560935 French_Provence
0.02564884 German

Maybe rothaer knows more.

I also have lower Baltic than Kiel and he is part Hungarian.

[Daco Celtic]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 14.83 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 47.18 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 1.32 Pct
East Asian Farmer 0.28 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 1.23 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.23 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.93 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Kiel]

Are southern-Germanics and northeastearn-French more " southern" than western-Balkan Slavs!?



is this normal (average) result? What are your closest modern populations?

Your "Baltic" is lower than what Retfala and Majevica scored, and you got much more Mediterranean farmer. They have more "Anatolian", but you are not far behind and you have a lot "Middle East"!

Yes.
My results with this calculator are more southern than the results of other fully Hungarian Hungarians.

[rothaer]

Are southern-Germanics and northeastearn-French more " southern" than western-Balkan Slavs!?


If you say Germans, not Germanics, then yes.

[Jana]

Anatolian Farmer 13.4 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 55.81 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 2.31 Pct
East Asian Farmer 1.08 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.1 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 27.31 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

[Barba]

If you say Germans, not Germanics, then yes.

Yes Germans, my auto-correct. I didnt know they could be so "southern", I thought they just assimilated some Celts.
I"ve only seen one Austrian result, but it was a bit different, with lot of Slavic.

[Barba]

I don't know that, but I'm not southern shifted Swiss, rather average.



0.00848816 French_Alsace
0.01126159 French_Nord
0.01192781 Swiss_German
0.01399112 BelgianC
0.01471411 BelgianB
0.01703662 French_Paris
0.02086703 BelgianA
0.02135940 French_Occitanie
0.02156926 French_Auvergne
0.02296164 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02396682 Swiss_French
0.02398889 Austrian
0.02452760 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02538418 German_Erlangen
0.02560935 French_Provence
0.02564884 German

Maybe rothaer knows more.

I also have lower Baltic than Kiel and he is part Hungarian.

interesting! if these are your closest populations, how much Celtic and how much Germanic you score on calculators? Im really curious.

[Catnip]

interesting! if these are your closest populations, how much Celtic and how much Germanic you score on calculators? Im really curious.
It varies, but here is one example. I got a marginally smaller distance on the first run.

Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8753% / 0.00875255
36.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
34.8 Germanic
25.4 Old_Balkan
3.2 East_Med

On the second run, a bit Slavic - but it's still a good fit.

Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8753% / 0.00875346
35.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
35.0 Germanic
21.4 Old_Balkan
4.8 Balto-Slavic
3.4 East_Med
0.4 Turkic_Steppe

I don't know what Old Balkan is, but it must be something Italian-like.

[Barba]

It varies, but here is one example. I got a marginally smaller distance on the first run.

Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8753% / 0.00875255
36.6 Keltic_Central_Euro
34.8 Germanic
25.4 Old_Balkan
3.2 East_Med

On the second run, a bit Slavic - but it's still a good fit.

Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8753% / 0.00875346
35.0 Keltic_Central_Euro
35.0 Germanic
21.4 Old_Balkan
4.8 Balto-Slavic
3.4 East_Med
0.4 Turkic_Steppe

I don't know what Old Balkan is, but it must be something Italian-like.

Holly Molly! Not even 40% Germanic and WOG ! xD So much assimilated Celts ? I had no idea, thats really cool.
You are barely my distant cousin. Dont ever move to Denmark, you'll contaminate us, LOL

[Catnip]

Holly Molly! Not even 40% Germanic and WOG ! xD So much assimilated Celts ? I had no idea, thats really cool.
You are barely my distant cousin. Dont ever move to Denmark, you'll contaminate us, LOL
The Alps were clearly a powerful barrier.
I'll move out of spite. :cheers:
Btw, I thought you were Dutch.

[Barba]

The Alps were clearly a powerful barrier.
I'll move out of spite. :cheers:
Btw, I thought you were Dutch.
I do have some Dutch ancestry and some small Belgian-Waloon-North French. A bit misch-masch

[Rogan]

I don't know that, but I'm not southern shifted Swiss, rather average.



0.00848816 French_Alsace
0.01126159 French_Nord
0.01192781 Swiss_German
0.01399112 BelgianC
0.01471411 BelgianB
0.01703662 French_Paris
0.02086703 BelgianA
0.02135940 French_Occitanie
0.02156926 French_Auvergne
0.02296164 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02396682 Swiss_French
0.02398889 Austrian
0.02452760 French_Seine-Maritime
0.02538418 German_Erlangen
0.02560935 French_Provence
0.02564884 German

Maybe rothaer knows more.

I also have lower Baltic than Kiel and he is part Hungarian.

You are close to almost the entire France except Brittany (obviously) and deep south, and to south Germans. Clearly an intermediate population.

I'm waiting for my results, I really wonder what I'll score.

[Ritz06]

Population
Anatolian Farmer 30.79 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 33.62 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 4.6 Pct
East Asian Farmer 3.18 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.37 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 4.92 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.57 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 21.89 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.05 Pct

[Nurzat]

Nurzat
Anatolian Farmer 18.51 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 48.44 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 3.08 Pct
East Asian Farmer 0.74 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.36 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.79 Pct
East African Pastoralist 0.31 Pct
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 26.75 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

Nurzat_dad
Anatolian Farmer 16.44 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 53.15 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 4.23 Pct
East Asian Farmer 1.17 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.86 Pct
East African Pastoralist 0.78 Pct
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 22.37 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

Nurzat_mom_phased
Anatolian Farmer 21.71 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 47.22 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 2.48 Pct
East Asian Farmer 0.67 Pct
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.32 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 27.59 Pct
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -