Post your MDLP K16 Modern 4-way TOP #1 Oracle

[ScandinavianCelt]

Calculator is on gedmatch.com

Here's mine:

using merged data:

Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Pole_EastPoland + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 1.129253


using merged data from a Gedmatch Superkit:

Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Icelandic_Iceland + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 0.564900

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using Ancestry-only data:

Croat_Bosnia-Herzegovina + Dutch_Netherlands + English_England + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 0.782444


using 23andMe-only data:

Hungarian_WestUkraine + Moldavian_Molodva + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.085157

[Far_away]

German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Bergamo + Macedonian_Macedonia @ 3.966592

[majevica]

Bulgarian_Bulgaria + German_Germany + German_Germany + Hungarian_Budapest @ 3.205530

[Grace O'Malley]

With FTDNA

1 German_Germany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 1.864479

23&Me

1 German_Germany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands + Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 1.771601

[Demirkazık]

1 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Turkey @ 3.066391
2 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Balikesir @ 3.073790
3 Bashkir_Akyar + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Aydin @ 3.085226
4 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Aydin @ 3.129709
5 Bashkir_Akyar + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Balikesir @ 3.138228
6 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Athens + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Aydin @ 3.216077
7 Greek_Azov + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Turkey + Forest_Yukaghir_Kolyma @ 3.219208
8 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Macedonia + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Aydin @ 3.232581
9 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Athens + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Balikesir @ 3.256668
10 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Athens + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Turkey @ 3.342206
11 Bashkir_Akyar + Greek_Athens + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Aydin @ 3.347445
12 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Macedonia + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Balikesir @ 3.349225
13 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi_Azerbaijan_Agdzhabedi + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Forest_Yukaghir_Kolyma @ 3.351706
14 Bashkir_Akyar + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Turkey @ 3.355933
15 Bashkir_Bashkortostan + Greek_Macedonia + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Turkey @ 3.368690
16 Greek_Macedonia + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Kayseri + Forest_Yukaghir_Kolyma @ 3.368992
17 Bashkir_Ufa + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Turkey @ 3.370698
18 Circassian_Circassia + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Forest_Yukaghir_Kolyma @ 3.371116
19 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi_Azerbaijan_Agdzhabedi + Greek_Athens + Jew_Iraqi + Forest_Yukaghir_Kolyma @ 3.387918
20 Bashkir_Ufa + Greek_Greece + Jew_Iraqi + Turk_Balikesir @ 3.397204

[Dušan]

1 Belarusian_Zhytkavichy_Homel + Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Hungarian_Budapest + Italian_Bergamo @ 1.876401

[Impaler]

Stronk Kavkaz for my father:

1 Avar_Dagestan_Shangoda + Azerbaijani_Baku + Russian_Russia + Sardinian_Sardinia @ 2.645633

[Petalpusher]

(Gedmatch)
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 English + French + German + Italian @ 2.040088

(DYI version)
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Dutch+French+Germans+Italian_Bergamo @ 2.226687

[Gallop]

Mine
1 Albanian_Albania + French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Spanish_Canarias @ 1.505133

Father
1 Spanish_Spain + Spanish_Spain + Spanish_Spain + Spanish_Spain @ 1.296200

[paradox]

1 Armenian_Armenia + French_France + Kosovar_Kosovo + Kosovar_Kosovo @ 1.541595

Father
1 English_Kent + Greek_Greece + Greek_Greece + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.032677

[Gergő Marosvári]

Gedmatch vs Admixture Studio

Gedmatch:
1 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.270026

Admixture Studio:
1 25% Hungarian_205 + 25% Hungarian_205 + 25% Hungarian_205 + 25% Hungarian_205 @ 2,450

[nittionia]

Using my real 23andme data:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian_Lithuania +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.728912


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Sorb_Lusatia +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 2.206973


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 1.830880
2 Belarusian_Belarus + French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 1.875536
3 Belarusian_Belarus + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1.919821
4 Hungarian_Hungary + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Sorb_Lusatia + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1.954992
5 French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 1.961065
6 German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Russians-West_WestRussian + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1.969490
7 German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Spanish_Pais_Vasco + Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 1.971877
8 German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1.975293
9 French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Russians-West_WestRussian @ 2.001236
10 French_SouthFrance + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Sorb_Lusatia + Sorb_Lusatia @ 2.043390
11 Belarusian_Belarus + Sorb_Lusatia + Sorb_Lusatia + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.045356
12 Lithuanian_Lithuania + Slovak_Slovakia + Sorb_Lusatia + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.060036
13 German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_Poland + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.071830
14 French_SouthFrance + Hungarian_Hungary + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Sorb_Lusatia @ 2.081523
15 Belarusian_West_WestBelarus + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.095259
16 Belarusian_Belarus + French_SouthFrance + Sorb_Lusatia + Sorb_Lusatia @ 2.095367
17 Belarusian_Zhytkavichy_Homel + French_SouthFrance + German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania @ 2.095631
18 French_SouthFrance + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Slovak_Slovakia + Sorb_Lusatia @ 2.095855
19 Lithuanian_Lithuania + Sorb_Lusatia + Sorb_Lusatia + Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2.096349
20 Basque_Spain + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.107955

[Beowulf]

1 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 1.734827


with admixture studio:


Fit: 1.19
German 173 /25.20%
Spanish 446 /23.00%
Italian 229 /22.20%
Spanish 444 /9.20%
Sardinian 414 /8.80%
Jew 253 /3.00%
Bedouinb 71 /2.20%
Jew 251 /2.20%
Spanish 452 /1.40%
Mozabite 351 /1.00%
Spanish 442 /1.00%
Basque 2 68 /0.60%
Jew 247 /0.20%

[ScandinavianCelt]

Gedmatch vs Admixture Studio

Gedmatch:
1 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.270026

Admixture Studio:
1 25% Hungarian_205 + 25% Hungarian_205 + 25% Hungarian_205 + 25% Hungarian_205 @ 2,450

Same raw data?

[ScandinavianCelt]

Using my real 23andme data:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian_Lithuania +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.728912


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Sorb_Lusatia +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Ukrainians_east_EastUkraine @ 2.206973





This is what I get with 2-way and 3-way approximations with my 23andMe raw data:

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Hungarian_WestUkraine +50% Irish_Munster @ 2.344701


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Hungarian_WestUkraine +25% Hungarian_WestUkraine +25% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.098402

[ScandinavianCelt]

1 German_Germany + Italian_Bergamo + Portuguese_Portugal + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon @ 1.734827


with admixture studio:


Fit: 1.19
German 173 /25.20%
Spanish 446 /23.00%
Italian 229 /22.20%
Spanish 444 /9.20%
Sardinian 414 /8.80%
Jew 253 /3.00%
Bedouinb 71 /2.20%
Jew 251 /2.20%
Spanish 452 /1.40%
Mozabite 351 /1.00%
Spanish 442 /1.00%
Basque 2 68 /0.60%
Jew 247 /0.20%

From which company did you get your raw data results? Also, your 4-way fit looks good for you, I think.

I wonder if that "German_Germany" incorporates your grandfather's DNA from the north of Germanic territories. It's interesting there is no Basque there for you though, right?

[Beowulf]

Which company did you get your raw data results? Also, your 4-way fit looks good for you, I think. I wonder if that "German_Germany" incorporates your grandfather's DNA from the north of Germanic territories. It's interesting there is no Basque there for you though, right?

I have FTDNA and MH but i use more FTDNA. And yeah i guess the German is my English (still quite high percentage), i also got residual basque percentage but i think it just overlap with spanish samples in this case

[ScandinavianCelt]

I have FTDNA and MH but i use more FTDNA. And yeah i guess the German is my English (still quite high percentage), i also got residual basque percentage but i think it just overlap with spanish samples in this case

Which Germanic tribes did you get with your Illustrative DNA breakdown for example does it show up mostly Saxon or which?

[Beowulf]

Which Germanic tribes did you get with your Illustrative DNA breakdown for example does it show up mostly Saxon or which?

it showed as Scandinavian iron age or a viking sample but using the mixed way i get Saxon or Celtic Islander.

[Abriekman]

1 Greek_Athens + Latvian_Cesis_Cesis + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_EastPoland @ 2.687954

[Eurafricanid]

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_SA_Ovambo +25% French_SouthFrance +25% Greek_Macedonia @ 3.474650


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Afroamerican_Denver + French_SouthFrance + Greek_Macedonia + Mende_Sierra_Leone @ 2.751205

[Katarzyna]

German_Germany + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Lithuanian_Lithuania + Pole_WestPoland @ 2.127750

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Dutch_Netherlands + German_Germany + Irish_Connacht + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.445748

[Fabricius]

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 English_Kent + German_SouthGermany + German_SouthGermany + Moroccan_Morocco @ 3.499083

(Probably "English" = Saxon)

[JerryS.]

Ehh at best. * I score higher than average West Asian so that pulls my Southern a bit more towards the Balkans.

1 English_Kent + German_Germany + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.438720

[Fabricius]

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian_Austria +50% Spanish_Canarias @ 6.593636


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German_SouthGermany +25% Moroccan_Morocco +25% Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 3.731415


("Orkney Islands" should be referring to my Celtic (Celtiberian) component.)

[Gergő Marosvári]

Same raw data?

Yep (23andMe)

[ScandinavianCelt]

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 English_Kent + German_SouthGermany + German_SouthGermany + Moroccan_Morocco @ 3.499083

(Probably "English" = Saxon)

Probably Angles. I believe Kent is in the region of East Anglia (Angles).

What percentage German are you on Illustrative DNA site, in Global calculator or a better one?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXVyDnTd/main-qimg-8735f561d191d7de31cff5e421581b43-lq.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Fabricius]

Probably Angles. I believe Kent is in the region of East Anglia (Angles).

What percentage German are you on Illustrative DNA site, in Global calculator or a better one?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXVyDnTd/main-qimg-8735f561d191d7de31cff5e421581b43-lq.jpg (https://postimages.org/)




I'm sorry, but I have not yet requested an Illustrative DNA test.
The only paid service I've requested for now is MyHeritage. The price of Illustrative DNA is reasonable (although the Euro is worth 5 of the shitcoin we use in my country). Maybe in the near future.
If I ever have one, I'll come back here to post the results.

Apart from MH, I only have results - for what you ask me - from the GEDmatch oracles. And some very comprehensive results, like the one from the free version of Genomelink.

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On the Anglo issue, I thank you for your interesting contribution. But in this case I imagine it is an error in the MDLP calculator, unless British migration to the European continent has been common in the last two hundred years. Anything is possible, but it's hard to fit it into my family history.
Could it be confusion between Anglos and modern Danes (Jutes)?

[Fabricius]

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[Fabricius]

Sorry, people. I don't know how to delete the double message.

[DomitiusAurelian]

1 Azerbaijani_Baku + Jew_Turkish_Sephardim + Lipka_Tatar_Belorus + Turk_Trabzon @ 2.082729

[Ritz06]

1 French_France + French_NorthwestFrance + Ossetian_North_Ossetia + Tabasaran_Dagestan @ 2.543197