Classify very dark male footballer who is allegedly from London England

[B01AB20]

Terry Venables.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-circa-1984-barcelona-coach-terry-venables-shouts-picture-id78979637

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/barcelona-mananger-terry-venables-looks-on-during-a-european-cup-picture-id453170198?s=612x612

https://www.footichiste.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/terry-venables.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/english-footballer-terry-venables-of-queens-park-rangers-fc-circa-picture-id77582154

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/78979667/photo/circa-1980-terry-venables-crystal-palace-manager-1976-1980.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=c5F8YtJ5ENjfUKoeGewSfJTXJ3Y2SysE9ZAFDK9kNeo=

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/43/a4/7e43a4ae430d7a2d0795779e0e4a2ad4.jpg


gilipollas 1 :'looks unmistakably north european, not dark at all'.

gilipollas 2 :'Venables is a surname of spanish origin, my grandma told me so'

gilipollas 3: 'the theory is that being on the Tames side of a westerly wind can make people darker which is why londonians are often darker than people of Constantinople.'

gilipollas 4: 'he's no english, that's just impossible, he must be Welsh or something'.

gilipollas 5: 'he can pass as iranian or pashtun perfectly'.

gilipollas 6: 'he is light enough to blend into a Helsinky cafe without looking very out of place, i think that he would look dark in Moscow or perhaps Sicily but in many other places he would look normal or dark.'


gilipollas 7 (me :cool: ) 'human variation even inside the same race is a bit too much to handle for so many gilipollas here. '

[Grace O'Malley]

Venables is one of those Norman surnames. I don't see anything exotic about him. His mother is Welsh and he does look Welsh.

[Oliver109]

Lol he looks completely British or French/Belgian/Swiss, alpine atlantid
gilipollas 1 :'looks unmistakably north european, not dark at all'.

[Oliver109]

Nothing allegedly about it

[Tooting Carmen]

Alpine-Med

[axel.aleman]

Luce mas oscuro que muchos españoles
trolles shitcanos y spaghetti deberian ver esto

[axel.aleman]

Alpine-Med

No luce igual o mas oscuro en pigmentación la mayoría de los españoles?

[Flashball]

Lol he looks completely British or French/Belgian/Swiss, alpine atlantid
gilipollas 1 :'looks unmistakably north european, not dark at all'.

This
Could be a northern french also, Swiss, british, irish, etc.

Nothing exotic, don't have any levantine features, north africans features, etc

[Oliver109]

This
Could be a northern french also, Swiss, british, irish, etc.

Nothing exotic, don't have any levantine features, north africans features, etc

Face is flatter, more exotic football figure would be Kevin Keegan
https://bilder.akademibokhandeln.se/images_akb/9781509877201_383/my-life-in-football

[B01AB20]

North european.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/43/a4/7e43a4ae430d7a2d0795779e0e4a2ad4.jpg

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/fcbarcelona/photo/2018/03/20/a2ec3f67-11db-4632-a5bb-aa5250e77cc2/16080023.jpg


North african.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/15/26/8015266d5abfca0fed63f81401b5dd0d.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/64/a7/7464a708b77d0818eb30b8f65cc9f2cf.png

https://fcb-abj-pre.s3.amazonaws.com/img/jugadors/552_migueli.jpg


no joke, this's Migueli, from Melilla, North Africa.

Thinking better... yeah, this is a big joke.

[B01AB20]

What I mean is that personal bias is the main tool of classification for many classificators here.

This thread is just a parody.

But anyway I acknowledge that without those personal bias this section would be super boring.

[Erronkari]

Now he looks quite french to me...


https://i.postimg.cc/CMbGmXnv/1899-1588840860.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Odelia]

He looks very French. How tf is that darK?

[Grace O'Malley]

Face is flatter, more exotic football figure would be Kevin Keegan
https://bilder.akademibokhandeln.se/images_akb/9781509877201_383/my-life-in-football

Kevin Keegan isn't exotic either. What exactly do you find exotic about him?

https://www.bdfutbol.com/i/j/94296.jpg

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/webimg/b25lY21zOjhkMmFkMjJjLTJmYTItNDkwNy1hZTFmLTVhMTkyYm U3YmNmZjoxMDIwYmMzMS0wYjBmLTQ4NGUtYTNiZC04MjFlZmNk NDZhZGE=.jpg?width=1200&enable=upscale

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article30490737.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_The-story-behind-Kevin-Keegans-iconic-I-would-love-it-rant.jpg

[renaissance12]

Lol he looks completely British or French/Belgian/Swiss, alpine atlantid
gilipollas 1 :'looks unmistakably north european, not dark at all'.


Septentrion is getting nervous.

You ruin all his propaganda work to make others believe that GB has many blonde people like Scandinavia..

[B01AB20]

He looks very French. How tf is that darK?

Tu cállate gorda.


Kevin Keegan isn't exotic either. What exactly do you find exotic about him?

https://www.bdfutbol.com/i/j/94296.jpg

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/webimg/b25lY21zOjhkMmFkMjJjLTJmYTItNDkwNy1hZTFmLTVhMTkyYm U3YmNmZjoxMDIwYmMzMS0wYjBmLTQ4NGUtYTNiZC04MjFlZmNk NDZhZGE=.jpg?width=1200&enable=upscale

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article30490737.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_The-story-behind-Kevin-Keegans-iconic-I-would-love-it-rant.jpg

Olly has super insightful thinking about this things, I'm sure his aswer will let us all stunned.

[Ugo]

Saccharides

[Oliver109]

Tu cállate gorda.



Olly has super insightful thinking about this things, I'm sure his aswer will let us all stunned.

His eyes appear larger and more sunken, his metrics are more in line with what is typical in the Mediterranean

[B01AB20]

His eyes appear larger and more sunken, his metrics are more in line with what is typical in the Mediterranean


Saccharides

This leds to the inevitable cuestion.

Do you use the metric system in Russia?, I mean, the metric system is quite complicated for russian way of thinking.

[Grace O'Malley]

His eyes appear larger and more sunken, his metrics are more in line with what is typical in the Mediterranean

I don't see it. He is a very common Isles type. His eyes aren't particularly large for starters and he is quite CM facially.

https://www.footballandmusic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/28032003_kevin-keegan.jpg

You must think Rod Stewart and Bon Scott exotic and Mediterranean then? They are similar to Keegan but less robust facially. Keegan is not unusual for either British or Irish.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Gilipollas whatsoever for me, he doesn't look specifically north european/british since he passes perfectly in southern Europe etc but I don't think he's very dark at all, fair/pale skinned brunet with totally european facial features. Alpinized mediterranean, perhaps some CM/paleo-atlantid admix.

[Grace O'Malley]

Gilipollas whatsoever for me, he doesn't look specifically north european/british since he passes perfectly in southern Europe etc but I don't think he's very dark at all, fair/pale skinned brunet with totally european facial features. Alpinized mediterranean, perhaps some CM/paleo-atlantid admix.

Terry Venables has a Welsh look to me so when I looked him up he does indeed have a Welsh mother. That is what I would have guessed him as if I didn't know who he was.

[Oliver109]

I don't see it. He is a very common Isles type. His eyes aren't particularly large for starters and he is quite CM facially.

https://www.footballandmusic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/28032003_kevin-keegan.jpg

You must think Rod Stewart and Bon Scott exotic and Mediterranean then? They are similar to Keegan but less robust facially. Keegan is not unusual for either British or Irish.

He looks British or Irish i agree, i have seen 1001 Irish more exotic than him

[Sebastianus Rex]

He looks British or Irish i agree, i have seen 1001 Irish more exotic than him

Absolutely, Keegan is not exotic at all, don't know even why some people perceive that, :confused:
https://www.storiedipremier.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/kevin-keegan.jpg

perhaps due to the jewfro hairstyle many players of the 70's and 80's cultivated, the german Paul Breitner was another famous example. Crazy hair decades. xD
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/galerie/kevin-keegan-1406194897-1659.jpg?lm=1483605624

[Grace O'Malley]

He looks British or Irish i agree, i have seen 1001 Irish more exotic than him

And a lot more British also. Simon Bird and Russell Brand are far more exotic types.

And anyway you're the one who was saying Kevin Keegan was more exotic than Terry Venables. :confused:

[Sebastianus Rex]

And a lot more British also. Simon Bird and Russell Brand are far more exotic types.

And anyway you're the one who was saying Kevin Keegan was more exotic than Terry Venables. :confused:

At least for me Bird looks exotic indeed, very common jewish look, armenoid/litorid type.

Brand is Atlanto-Mediterranean, more med than atlantid shifted but looks perfectly european, just his type is somewhat atypical for a british islander but not exotic in a broader european sense.

[Incal]

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[Oliver109]

And a lot more British also. Simon Bird and Russell Brand are far more exotic types.

And anyway you're the one who was saying Kevin Keegan was more exotic than Terry Venables. :confused:

Because he is more exotic than Venables, he has more med influence than him in terms of facial metrics

[Grace O'Malley]

Because he is more exotic than Venables, he has more med influence than him in terms of facial metrics

I don't agree that either of them are exotic but I find I disagree with you a lot. :)

[B01AB20]

And a lot more British also. Simon Bird and Russell Brand are far more exotic types.

And anyway you're the one who was saying Kevin Keegan was more exotic than Terry Venables. :confused:

Like many genius Ollye's opinions are often controversial and also contradictory among themselves. And in many occasions his opinion seems to come directly from his ass.

All characteristics of a superior and insightful mind. I think only Gallop can compare to him.

[Xacal]

Baskid + Alpine

[Ugo]

This leds to the inevitable cuestion.

Do you use the metric system in Russia?, I mean, the metric system is quite complicated for russian way of thinking.A distinctive feature of Europeans is thin hair. These people have hair like the mane of a horse. Saccharide - Caucasian phenotype. I see no alternative to these people. What is the "metric system"? Anthropologists argue that measurements of cranial characteristics are made only on the skull. Living people are not measured. Or did you mean something else?

[B01AB20]

Baskid + Alpine

You simply don't miss any classification thread man!

Of your 14.739 posts I bet in 14.730 you say alpine, borreby, capadocian, gracile berid and all that super interesting words. :)

[B01AB20]

A distinctive feature of Europeans is thin hair. These people have hair like the mane of a horse. Saccharide - Caucasian phenotype. I see no alternative to these people. What is the "metric system"? Anthropologists argue that measurements of cranial characteristics are made only on the skull. Living people are not measured. Or did you mean something else?

Really?

I thought 'Saccharide' was the name of a dragon in 'Games of Thrones' and you were simply messing around.

And now it comes out that you was being serious with all this idiocy that in this forum they call 'anthropology'. :picard1:

You dissapoint me man, remember your good reputation and don't do this again.

[aherne]

Looks deeply Italian. Extremely atypical if truly English...

[Petalpusher]

Absolutely, Keegan is not exotic at all, don't know even why some people perceive that, :confused:
https://www.storiedipremier.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/kevin-keegan.jpg

perhaps due to the jewfro hairstyle many players of the 70's and 80's cultivated, the german Paul Breitner was another famous example. Crazy hair decades. xD
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/foto/galerie/kevin-keegan-1406194897-1659.jpg?lm=1483605624

This is one of the greatest mystery to me how at that time so many were able to get those kinky hairstyles. I could try all day, and im sure it's the case for many people, i would never be able to get this haircut. Maybe more people naturally have those kinky hairs than we realize, brush every morning and/or hide it with short hair nowadays as it's not a trend anymore.

It's like almost all of them could have it, even to a lesser extent, it seems like barely anyone back then had truely straight hairs.

https://impromptuinc.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/germany2.png

meanwhile us in the 80-90's

https://scontent-mrs2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/131362367_1767217573454194_7065514316628901135_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Hqo6kZlGHacAX9NQ6Qq&_nc_ht=scontent-mrs2-2.xx&oh=00_AfCnMbkeBLIC9suMbL84CC2_G1g_bW6yVtyyJi2WE0oB Xg&oe=6535F82F

[Davy Jones's Locker]

Venables coached the England team that hosted 1996 European Championship. A tournament where we played some of the most entertaining football in our history.

With Barcelona he won La Liga and also got them to the Final of the European Cup, now called the Champions League. He also won the FA Cup as both a player and manager with Tottenham Hotspur. After retirement from management he became one of the most interesting pundits on Television. RIP El Tel!


Alpine-Med

My opinion also.