Incorrect haplogroups of Spaniards

[Valenman]

Because according to the majority of genetic studies in Spain, the majority haplogroup is r1b, most people do not have it but it is more common to see E(No E81 in general) or G or i2 or I even saw some H2
But most studies affirm that in Spain R1b is a minimum of 60% ?

[Defcon2]

This is expected, R1b ranges between 50-60% depending on the region, this implies that about half of a country of 47 million people does not have R1b, 40% of 47 million is quite a lot and it is common to see individuals non-R1b Spaniards.

[gixajo]

When I read the title I thought that was the right thread for me and my R1a.

[Defcon2]

When I read the title I thought that was the right thread for me and my R1a.

Your haplogroup is correct, what is not correct is Spain.

[Touijer]

When I read the title I thought that was the right thread for me and my R1a.

You probably descend from a Slav during Andalusia period. Some of them ruled Taifas

[HelloGuys]

I am mexican, but my E-M183 haplo was brought by a spaniard in the viceroyalty.

[gixajo]

You probably descend from a Slav during Andalusia period. Some of them ruled Taifas

Any option can be possible, including the Saqaliba option, but is not the most slavic subclade and I don´t think is the most likely either.

[Gallop]

Because according to the majority of genetic studies in Spain, the majority haplogroup is r1b, most people do not have it but it is more common to see E(No E81 in general) or G or i2 or I even saw some H2
But most studies affirm that in Spain R1b is a minimum of 60% ?

Because those of us who have an exotic haplogroup or a very minority haplogroup for our country look for answers and become more active, but in quieter and more national places, the majority is publishing R1b1

[cmt160]

I don't think it's incorrect. I actually do think R1b is or at least used to be majority. I think my maternal grandfather (my mom's father) was R1b but of the italo-celtic branch/kind of it (R-S47), not the iberian bell beaker kind which is supposedly the most common (R-DF27). Again my grandfather never got tested and died the year i was born before dna testing was even a mainstream thing or even niche like it is now. I'm basing all of this on some SNPs I have in my geno which may indicate it, according to some sites.

Again haplogroups could change in a single generation without the genetics/admixture of a nation really changing assuming there's a lot of diversity and by coincidence the males with the haplogroup that was once predominant start having less children or at the very least sons, and the opposite for the males of a haplogroup which used to be minority but that the males are having "reproductive success" in the sense of patrilineal lineage (them having the most as well as the most succesful sons). I think this is very weird to happen but it definitely can.

I'm E1b1b1b1 / E-L19 / E-M81 myself by the way.

[Kess]

You probably descend from a Slav during Andalusia period. Some of them ruled Taifas

Who do you descend from as an R-S1194 Moroccan male? Spanish Conquistadors?

[Touijer]

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[Kess]

What’s your obsession with me

I don't have an obsession with you.

[Touijer]

I don't have an obsession with you.

No I don’t descend from Spaniards. If you want to find Moroccans descending from Spaniards in Morocco you look at their surname

[Kess]

No I don’t descend from Spaniards. If you want to find Moroccans descending from Spaniards in Morocco you look at their surname

I doubt you are Moroccan anyway. Your Y-DNA and mtDNA tree is full of Western Euros.

[Touijer]

I doubt you are Moroccan anyway. Your Y-DNA and mtDNA tree is full of Western Euros.

Same thing can be said of most Turks

[Touijer]

Your Y-DNA and mtDNA tree is full of Western Euros.

And both are Asian haplogroups, not European