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black hole
09-25-2023, 02:12 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups.png

https://i.redd.it/j7sndz76drq81.png


Russians

R1a, N, I2a, I1

Ugo
09-25-2023, 02:21 PM
Russians have almost no haplogroup N. It is found only in the sparsely populated north of Russia. The main Russian population is about 10% N1c, almost like Belarusians. In the Orel region, R1a is up to 63%. Vyatichi!
https://i.ibb.co/2hH2zbG/N.jpg (https://ibb.co/W5j9rTm)

Thracian
09-25-2023, 03:57 PM
I guess my haplogroup is rare among Turks. I am also not sure whether R1a-Z283 is found higher among Balkan Turks.

majevica
09-25-2023, 04:23 PM
I2a, E1b1b, R1a

Katarzyna
09-25-2023, 04:30 PM
R1a is very common in my country but surprisingly we don’t have a single R1a and only one R1b in our extended family. Most of my male family members are I2a1 probably because we are Hunter Gathers ;)

Beowulf
09-25-2023, 04:32 PM
R1b is the most common here

Demirkazık
09-25-2023, 04:57 PM
Mainly J2, R1b, N, R1a and G2

https://i.ibb.co/tpr8Gsz/382724127-7054238677959725-4505451419552440009-n.jpg

Beowulf
09-25-2023, 05:03 PM
Mainly J2, R1b, N, R1a and G2

https://i.ibb.co/tpr8Gsz/382724127-7054238677959725-4505451419552440009-n.jpg

What are the most common subclades of R1b in Turkey?

tk'es
09-25-2023, 05:19 PM
most prevalent haplogroups are J2, J1, L3, in medium quantity are Q1a and G2.. the rest in small numbers are R1a, R1b, R2, L2, D, C, E, I2, T and N

Demirkazık
09-25-2023, 05:24 PM
What are the most common subclades of R1b in Turkey?

R-PH155 -> R-PH200 and R-M269 -> R-L23 -> R-Z2103.

Descendants of the R-L23 is the most prevalent.

Beowulf
09-25-2023, 05:26 PM
R-PH155 -> RP-PH200 and R-M269 -> R-L23 -> R-Z2103.

Descendants of the R-L23 is the most prevalent.

Nice, can any other less common subclades be found there too?

Demirkazık
09-25-2023, 05:34 PM
Nice, can any other less common subclades be found there too?

Of course, there are also Celtic, Norman or Varangian Y-DNA in some Turks, like R-Y264023 under R-Z2247, I-FGC12562 under I-CTS2208 etc.

Beowulf
09-25-2023, 05:38 PM
Of course, there are also Celtic, Norman or Varangian Y-DNA in some Turks, like R-Y264023 under R-Z2247, I-FGC12562 under I-CTS2208 etc.

That's cool!! Only the last question in wich part of Turkey is usually more common R1b?

Demirkazık
09-25-2023, 05:43 PM
That's cool!! Only the last question in wich part of Turkey is usually more common R1b?

In East Armenian related R1b increases, in West Turkic related R1b increases. I don't exactly know where it is more common, but I think it would be the Eastern part of Anatolia.

Beowulf
09-25-2023, 05:49 PM
In East Armenian related R1b increases, in West Turkic related R1b increases. I don't exactly know where it is more common, but I think it would be the Eastern part of Anatolia.

Thanks for this interesting information! :thumb001:

Varda
09-25-2023, 06:03 PM
Dalmatian Serbs (Северна Далмација, N 201) https://iiIi.io/HLjO2TJ.png (https://iili.io/HLjO2TJ.png)

Voskos
09-25-2023, 06:04 PM
For Crete
1.J2a
2. I2a and E-V13 and G
3. R1b L23 and R1b U152
4. R1a, J1,J2b,N, T

Abti
09-25-2023, 06:31 PM
In my country I’m surrounded by inferior E1b. But for my tribe I’m glad they are mostly of the same clade as mine. Some are J1, J*. But most of them are J2.

Dominator
09-25-2023, 06:46 PM
R1a +N1c1

Cybele
09-25-2023, 10:04 PM
From Wikipedia:
I - 27.9% (I2a1= 17.3%, I1=5.6%, Other I2= 5.0%)
R1a - 20.1%
E1b1b -19.6%
J -18.4% (J2b = 8.9% ,J2a=7.3%, J1=2.2%)
R1b - 10.1%
G - 2.2%
N - 0.6%
T - 0.6%

FTDNA
https://i.imgur.com/bdH6L31.jpg

MandM
09-27-2023, 07:06 PM
So witch one is correct ftdna or Wikipedia

Black Wolf
09-29-2023, 09:29 PM
In my country I’m surrounded by inferior E1b. But for my tribe I’m glad they are mostly of the same clade as mine. Some are J1, J*. But most of them are J2.

Which clade of J2 does your tribe belong to mainly?

Abti
09-30-2023, 08:08 AM
Which clade of J2 does your tribe belong to mainly?

J-FT212821.

Black Wolf
09-30-2023, 12:41 PM
J-FT212821.

Interesting....You are from Ethiopia?

retfala
09-30-2023, 01:33 PM
Samples : 1 100
Source : Mršić et al. (2012)

I2a(xI2a1) - 37.7%
R1a - 22.1%
E1b1b-M35 - 10.6%
R1b - 7.9%
I1 - 5.8%
J2b - 3.7%
G2a - 2.7%
H - 1.8%
J2a1h - 1.2%
J1 - 1.1%
J2a1b - 1%

all others < 1%

thatoneton
09-30-2023, 01:56 PM
In Poland:
R - R1a and R1b
I - I1 and I2
are the most common ones. They together make up to 90% of all, the exact amount depending on the study (for example in one study R1a was 57% and R1b 14,1%, wheres I (total) was 15,7%, making up circa 87% total).

Other, less common ones are N, E, J, G which make up the remaining 10 (or slightly more) percent.

Luke35
09-30-2023, 02:38 PM
I'm N1a (N-Y17696)

Rare in Hungary, like 1% or smth like that.

It was a pleasant surprise for me, it indicated a paternal migration route over the last 1000 years or so that went from the Baltic area, through Poland, Slovakia and finally Hungary. Interesting if for no other reason then that it was uncommon.

Just took a look on Wiki, found this:

"According to a study by Pamjav, the area of Bodrogköz suggested to be a population isolate found an elevated frequency of Haplogroup N: R1a-M458 (20.4%), I2a1-P37 (19%), R1a-Z280 (14.3%), and E1b-M78 (10.2%). Various R1b-M343 subgroups accounted for 15% of the Bodrogköz population. Haplogroup N1c-Tat covered 6.2% of the lineages, but most of it belonged to the N1c-VL29 subgroup, which is more frequent among Balto-Slavic speaking than Finno-Ugric speaking peoples. Other haplogroups had frequencies of less than 5%.[134]"

Well, Bodrogköz is more or less the area where my paternal line is from. And I am part of the N1c-VL29 subgroup. So, N is not quite as rare (6.2%) when looking at this particular region of Hungary.

Valenman
09-30-2023, 02:55 PM
In Spain 70%( End 85-90% in Basque country) according dna studies is R1b and 45% iberian branch But in my experience it is lower since the majority who have taken the test either in that forum or in others, there are many people with pre-Indo-European haplogroups such as I2 (especially the Pyrenean area) G and E (in general the European branches or from the middle east) Second most common haplogroup according to genetic studies is J2 maximum 25% in some areas and E maximum 40% in some areas with the same percentage about 10% then I2 about 5% and reaches 15-30% in some areas R1a J1 and T also exist but very little
Only in some areas such as Cadiz and Eivissa does the T reach 10-15%

Abti
09-30-2023, 08:52 PM
Interesting....You are from Ethiopia?

Yeah, I am.

Black Wolf
09-30-2023, 09:46 PM
Yeah, I am.

Even more interesting since J2a is pretty rare in Ethiopia.....Which tribe or ethnic group do you belong to?

Abti
09-30-2023, 10:17 PM
Even more interesting since J2a is pretty rare in Ethiopia.....Which tribe or ethnic group do you belong to?
Ethiopian Harar but with ties to Amarigna & Somâl.
My tribe is Beesha Sheriff (AKA Ashraff) who speak Af-Ashraf under the Rahanweyne confederacy being said that means Ashraff speak Af-Mai as a second language.

Vessna
12-11-2023, 03:31 AM
R1a1, I1b, N3a

Leto
12-12-2023, 08:21 PM
Russians have almost no haplogroup N. It is found only in the sparsely populated north of Russia. The main Russian population is about 10% N1c, almost like Belarusians. In the Orel region, R1a is up to 63%. Vyatichi!
https://i.ibb.co/2hH2zbG/N.jpg (https://ibb.co/W5j9rTm)
N is surely the second or third most common haplogroup among the Russians. Keep in mind that the Volga-Vyatka, Ural and Siberian regions are not represented in those statistics. And Asian Russia is home to 25% or so of the entire population. N must be at 15% in Slavic Russia as a whole (with R1a at ~45% and I2 at ~10%).