Classify a Hungarian canoeing girl, Janka Rugonfalvi-Kiss

[Hungarian_master]

https://www.budakalasz.hu/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/janka.jpg?x97806
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[omidjahan]

Sub-nordid+ alpine

[Hektor12]

Interesting, looks like Scando-Germanic-Turkic blend.

Her eyes are too asian but makes her very attractive to me. Nice girl.

[Tooting Carmen]

Actually reminds me of a Welsh athlete.

[Tooting Carmen]

Ellie Simmonds her name is:
https://e0.365dm.com/20/08/2048x1152/skysports-ellie-simmonds-swimming_5060667.jpg

[Oliver109]

quite a similar look to many in France, alpine with borreby and pontid

[PaganPoet]

Interesting, looks like Scando-Germanic-Turkic blend.

Her eyes are too asian but makes her very attractive to me. Nice girl.

You just say that because you consider Hungarians as "brothers" or something. If she were Belgian or French you would describe er differently. Or not at all.

[Odelia]

Actually reminds me of a Welsh athlete.
She actually does look like that odd baltid looking Welsh or irish chick

[Regnera]

Alpine with Pontid influence.

[aherne]

looks hungarian: ancient magyar + alpine + borreby

[Eurafricanid]

She's just Hallsttat + Borreby, looks like a Subnordid.

[TheForeigner]

Subnordid.

[Mortimer]

Borreby

[Hektor12]

If she were Belgian or French you would describe er differently. Or not at all.

Yes? Because ancestry matters?

[PaganPoet]

Yes? Because ancestry matters?

What does that mean? That her eyes suddenly stop being an Asiatic trait due to admixture and becomes a Total coincidence if she were more Western? Backed up by some superficial dna map or chart in order to "prove" this, I bet...

[Hektor12]

What does that mean? That her eyes suddenly stop being an Asiatic trait due to admixture and becomes a Total coincidence if she were more Western? Backed up by some superficial dna map or chart in order to "prove" this, I bet...

When i see similar eyes in my country, thats likely Turanid component. Where do i get this? Due to our ancestry.

Of course, theres always a small chance that its something else but i make classifications based on openly available info and i give higher chance that her eyes are a result of Old Magyar DNA rather than a rogue Scando-Lappid DNA in Hungary.

[PaganPoet]

When i see similar eyes in my country, thats likely Turanid component. Where do i get this? Due to our ancestry.

Of course, theres always a small chance that its something else but i make classifications based on openly available info and i give higher chance that her eyes are a result of Old Magyar DNA rather than a rogue Scando-Lappid DNA in Hungary.

And when you see this trait in Western Europe with native locals then you assume this is a coincidence and not due to admixture?

[Hektor12]

And when you see this trait in Western Europe with native locals then you assume this is a coincidence and not due to admixture?

It requires close inspection. If it looks "familiar enough" to me (being Turkish) i go with Turanid. If it doesnt, then theres a different explanation needed.

[PaganPoet]

It requires close inspection. If it looks "familiar enough" to me (being Turkish) i go with Turanid. If it doesnt, then theres a different explanation needed.

Not a very good argument. You cannot deny bias. If she were represented as Dutch you would say CM or pseudo whatever.

[Hektor12]

Not a very good argument. You cannot deny bias. If she were represented as Dutch you would say CM or pseudo whatever.

Yes, a Dutch and a Hungarian are genetically different. Its not bias, its basing classfication on given ancestry.

[PaganPoet]

Yes, a Dutch and a Hungarian are genetically different. Its not bias, its basing classfication on given ancestry.

So if she were Dutch, her eyes suddenly stop having a Mongoloid trait, even though they still look the same? I want to have a confirmation of a serious scientist to confirm this, as this sounds both historically inaccurate and simplistic.
Where does the admixture supposedly stop? Hungarian border? Few hundred kilometers to the west?

[Mortimer]

So if she were Dutch, her eyes suddenly stop having a Mongoloid trait, even though they still look the same? I want to have a confirmation of a serious scientist to confirm this, as this sounds both historically inaccurate and simplistic.
Where does the admixture supposedly stop? Hungarian border? Few hundred kilometers to the west?

Because Hungarians are Magyars and Hunns. They themselfes claim to be central asian. They are brothers with Turkistan Republics, they even organise Medieval Turkic Festivals.

Even Hungarian Nationalists claim that.

[Hektor12]

So if she were Dutch, het eyes suddenly stop having a Mongoloid trait, even though they still look the same? I want to have a confirmation of a serious scientist to confirm this.
Where does the admixture supposedly stop? Hungarian border? Few hundred kilometers to the west?

No, it doesnt stop but it needs another explanation, other than Huns.

Border honestly i dont know, you can find Hunnic haplogroups as far as western France but its not easy to draw a border.

[PaganPoet]

No, it doesnt stop but it needs another explanation, other than Huns.

Border honestly i dont know, you can find Hunnic haplogroups as far as western France but its not easy to draw a border.

If she were Western, which she probably is for a big part considering her name, she would have this from Huns and therefore she would still have an Asiatic trait. Europe is small, it seems absurd that from a certain point toward the west, Europeans would develop these traits independently.

[Blondie]

If she is turkic looking, then whole Europe is turkic.

I rembember once i posted a group of slovak as "hungarian" and a goup of hungarian as "slovak", the answers: slovaks had clearly old magyar vibe unlike hungarians who were very slavic :rotfl:

[Hektor12]

If she were Western, which she probably is for a big part considering her name, she would have this from Huns and therefore she would still have an Asiatic trait. Europe is small, it seems absurd that from a certain point toward the west, Europeans would develop these traits independently.

I dont say its not possible or my opinion is a fact. Its about helping with my knowledge.

[Hektor12]

whole Europe is turkic.

My dreams come true. :cool:

[PaganPoet]

I dont say its not possible or my opinion is a fact. Its about helping with my knowledge.

You can maybe detect a specific branch of such traits, and maybe connect them to different historical events such as migrations, but you cannot dismiss it as completely unrelated.

[Ugo]

My dreams come true. :cool:
1% of the Mongoloid admixture of the Hungarians, does not give you passage to Europe. Turks are not white, not because of the Mongoloid admixture, but because of the Middle East. You'd better pay attention to the Albanians. Perhaps there you will find your dream.

[Hektor12]

You'd better pay attention to the Albanians. Perhaps there you will find your dream.

Ive already found my Albanian dream. (:


https://youtu.be/4WytlM_uJYg

[reboun]

Borreby+Pontid

[Varda]

Mostly Subnordid.