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Abti
10-14-2023, 09:22 AM
What are some of your friend groups you speculate belong to?

I speculate some of them in my circle to belong to.

1. J2a-L26 2. E-M78 3. J-M267 4. J-M205

5. I-M170 6. R-M269

But realistically you could never really tell unless they have tested before.

Nurzat
10-14-2023, 10:32 AM
back in 2011 I tested with two close friends, one of them was into this stuff and was the one to come up with the idea - they are both R-M512 (R1a1a), both are northeast-Romanians (Moldova region), one of them has a Ukrainian last name but such surnames are overly popular in northern Moldova among Romanians (my guess is that they are Romanianized Ukrainians, but most of them don't accept the idea, my friend is even a Romanian nationalist xD).

me and my dad are J-Z467 (somewhere under J2a1b3) - and I think deeper in the clade we come under J-L210, more precisely under J-Y15234, almost exclusively found among East Slavs (some said it's a Polish/Ukrainian/Russian Jewish clade, I dunno about that, if that'd be the case and its lack elsewhere it could be a clade that anyway went from the Caucasus north of the Black Sea, not through the Near Eastern route. Khazar clade? xD)

Abti
10-14-2023, 10:37 AM
back in 2011 I tested with two close friends, one of them was into this stuff and was the one to come up with the idea - they are both R-M512 (R1a1a), both are northeast-Romanians (Moldova region), one of them has a Ukrainian last name but such surnames are overly popular in northern Moldova among Romanians (my guess is that they are Romanianized Ukrainians, but most of them don't accept the idea, my friend is even a Romanian nationalist xD).

me and my dad are J-Z467 (somewhere under J2a1b3) - and I think deeper in the clade we come under J-L210, almost exclusively found among East Slavs (some said it's a Polish/Ukrainian/Russian Jewish clade, I dunno about that, if that'd be the case and its lack elsewhere it could be a clade that anyway went from the Caucasus north of the Black Sea, not through the Near Eastern route)

Tight.

Abti
10-14-2023, 10:41 AM
back in 2011 I tested with two close friends, one of them was into this stuff and was the one to come up with the idea - they are both R-M512 (R1a1a), both are northeast-Romanians (Moldova region), one of them has a Ukrainian last name but such surnames are overly popular in northern Moldova among Romanians (my guess is that they are Romanianized Ukrainians, but most of them don't accept the idea, my friend is even a Romanian nationalist xD).

me and my dad are J-Z467 (somewhere under J2a1b3) - and I think deeper in the clade we come under J-L210, more precisely under J-Y15234, almost exclusively found among East Slavs (some said it's a Polish/Ukrainian/Russian Jewish clade, I dunno about that, if that'd be the case and its lack elsewhere it could be a clade that anyway went from the Caucasus north of the Black Sea, not through the Near Eastern route. Khazar clade? xD)

How'd your friends react to your clade? :rolleyes:

I think this maybe your clade. It is under the known clade. Doesn’t seem to be really Jewish, it’s Ukrainian. This maybe part of the Slav incursion into Jews like some R-Z280.

Link (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y81401/)

Katarzyna
10-14-2023, 11:30 AM
I got most of my exes tested for their haplogroups, because it's very important.

1. Ukrainian ex - I2a1
Phenotype: North Pontid + Pre Slavic
Same haplogroup as my family, such a nice coincidence.

2.Russian Uzbek ex - R1a1a
Phenotype: East Pamirid + Armenoid
Very aryan.

3. Turkish ex (Jewish) - G1 (G-M285,)
Phenotype: Taurid
Very rare group nowadays.

4. Hungarian ex
Phenotype: Pontid + Dinarid
Unfortunately he didn't want to get tested, cause that will probably reveal that he's not as much of a central asian hun as he thought he is ;)

5. Serbian ex
R1b (R-M269)
Phenotype: Noric+ Corded
Kinda surprised me, but I like it ;)

Miko
12-02-2023, 08:08 AM
4. Hungarian ex
Unfortunately he didn't want to get tested, cause that will probably reveal that he's not as much of a central asian hun as he thought he is ;)


anti-Western: "muh western womyn bad, asian traditional"

Feiichy
12-02-2023, 09:04 AM
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Beowulf
12-02-2023, 09:11 AM
A friend of mine ordered recently a My Heritage kit, as far as i know is that his paternal line is from Catalonia, i guess he might be R1b

Narration
12-02-2023, 09:20 AM
What are some of your friend groups you speculate belong to?


One of my friends is of J2 clade.

Voskos
12-02-2023, 09:26 AM
I don't know any of their haplogroups.

Petalpusher
12-02-2023, 10:45 AM
I don't know any of their haplogroups.

How come this was never brought up for you?!! All the none H or U chicks have been deleted from my phone, a few of them are still scratching at the door as we speak. When it comes to friendship, i only take C for an answer.

Nurzat
12-02-2023, 11:38 AM
How'd your friends react to your clade? :rolleyes:

I think this maybe your clade. It is under the known clade. Doesn’t seem to be really Jewish, it’s Ukrainian. This maybe part of the Slav incursion into Jews like some R-Z280.

Link (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y81401/)

they laughed and called me a Rothschild xD

it was a funny inversion - them Romanian-Moldovans R1a, their Ruthenian friend J2

Katarzyna
12-02-2023, 11:45 AM
How come this was never brought up for you?!! All the none H or U chicks have been deleted from my phone, a few of them are still scratching at the door as we speak. When it comes to friendship, i only take C for an answer.

I’m group V. Am I allowed to stay on your phone?

Petalpusher
12-02-2023, 12:34 PM
I’m group V. Am I allowed to stay on your phone?

That's from basal HV so i guess you can stay, i ll make an exception for one chipmunk.

Katarzyna
12-02-2023, 12:46 PM
That's from basal HV so i guess you can stay, i ll make an exception for one chipmunk.

Nice. Hopefully I made it on your Lock Screen.

Thracian
12-02-2023, 01:31 PM
I dunno. But it is very unlikely some of them have same Y-DNA as me

Abti
12-02-2023, 05:03 PM
That's from basal HV so i guess you can stay, i ll make an exception for one chipmunk.

HV women aren’t yours. B & F women are yours, chinaman.

Kess
12-02-2023, 05:06 PM
Haplogroups of my friends? Why should I store that information in my head? Meh.

Abti
12-02-2023, 05:08 PM
they laughed and called me a Rothschild xD

it was a funny inversion - them Romanian-Moldovans R1a, their Ruthenian friend J2

Being called a Rothschild is not an Insult tbh. R1a could never.

Nurzat
12-02-2023, 05:20 PM
Being called a Rothschild is not an Insult tbh. R1a could never.

I recently found out that one of the Rothschild YDNA lines (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rothschild/default.aspx?section=yresults) is J-Y23457, which is by coincidence under J-Y15234 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Y15234/), where I am probably at as well - this is why I was wondering if it's Ashkenazi, since some of the samples in this line are labeled "Yiddish" and "Eastern Yiddish", though it's still strange they're restricted to Russia-Ukraine-Belarus-Poland-Lithuania-Germany-Hungary and the hotspot seems to be in Ukraine, in Ivano-Frankivsk/Ternopil area, where my paternal side is located in. while nothing points to Jewish ancestry in my autosomal calculator runs, no excess East Med etc, my dad can be modelled as 7/8 Ukrainian and 1/8 Ashkenazi, though it could also be due to the natural regional variation in a big population like Ukrainian, where Ukrainians at the edges of it show slight tendency towards neighbouring populations (Russians, Belarusians, Poles, Slovaks, Hungarians, Romanians...)

HelloGuys
12-02-2023, 08:47 PM
Where I live, almost everyone of the descendants from here who have been tested are R (R1b/R1a).

So I'd be expecting that too.

Vessna
12-02-2023, 09:59 PM
Best friend - H5a
That's the only one I know.

hazmatnik
12-03-2023, 11:21 PM
4 x EV13, 1x I-M253, R1b and R1a and for others i have no idea.