Rare haplogroups for ethnicity.

[Abti]

I know one or two, me. I am J2a-L26 from Ethiopia. With closer links to southernmost Arab countries. That are Saudi Arabia, Oman & Yemen.

I know another one which is R1b1-P25.1 in Somalia.

Both having a frequency next to none or 0.5% of their countries.

[The_Strategist]

Where can you see your haplogroup?

[Beowulf]

Where can you see your haplogroup?

If you have done a DNA test you can try this website https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

[DomitiusAurelian]

My haplogroup is G1. Literally 5 people have it other than me. As far as I know it's one of the rarest haplogroups

[CountGrishnackh]

My haplogroup is G1. Literally 5 people have it other than me. As far as I know it's one of the rarest haplogroups

Wikipedia says it's 5% in Turkey.

[Katarzyna]

My haplogroup is G1. Literally 5 people have it other than me. As far as I know it's one of the rarest haplogroups

My Turkish ex Acatay was also G1. I think it's a sign ;)

[The_Strategist]

If you have done a DNA test you can try this website https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

Thanks. did I run it correctly? 123834

[Beowulf]

Thanks. did I run it correctly? 123834

yes :thumb001:

[The_Strategist]

yes :thumb001:

Than I guess I am R-Z2125. I'll look it up

[Katarzyna]

What happens if a woman runs this website? Will I get an error or a fictive group? XD

[majevica]

Than I guess I am R-Z2125. I'll look it up

R1a man

[majevica]

For Serbs

Q,T,L

[The_Strategist]

R1a man

I'm reading about it on wiki and it is both eastern European and middle eastern? is it Iranian perhaps?

[CountGrishnackh]

What happens if a woman runs this website? Will I get an error or a fictive group? XD

I assume you would get an error message, but you can try it out for yourself a share the results with us :p

[Katarzyna]

I assume you would get an error message, but you can try it out for yourself a share the results with us :p

I did it hahaha and got a group. Can you also try it please? :D Let's see what other girls get

[CountGrishnackh]

I did it hahaha and got a group. Can you also try it please? :D Let's see what other girls get

bruh...

[Katarzyna]

bruh...

Most funny thing is that I got J1 as a result. And most of my maternal male relatives are really J1 XD Funny coincidence.

[DomitiusAurelian]

My Turkish ex Acatay was also G1. I think it's a sign ;)

We were meant to be together! It's been so long stalking you...

[Demirkazık]

Than I guess I am R-Z2125. I'll look it up

Cladefinder has problems with the clades under R-M417, try Morley DNA it would probably give you R-Z283 or R-Z282. https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

[Demirkazık]

I'm reading about it on wiki and it is both eastern European and middle eastern? is it Iranian perhaps?

Depending on the subclade it's either Proto-Indo-Iranian or Proto-Turkic.

[kingmob]

R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.

[The_Strategist]

Cladefinder has problems with the clades under R-M417, try Morley DNA it would probably give you R-Z283 or R-Z282. https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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[The_Strategist]

R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.

That is cool. Croats and Serbs have iranian links according to some historians

[Demirkazık]

R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.

It has contributed to the formation of Proto-Turkics, there is a reason you don't see R-YP1456 among Indo-Iranian speakers.

Who were the OG Proto-Turkics then N-VL67, Q-L330, J-PH1795 ?

[Demirkazık]

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Chose ISOGG tree not the Experimental one, and scroll down a bit so we can see which subclade you fall into.

[kingmob]

It has contributed to the formation of Proto-Turkics, there is a reason you don't see R-YP1456 among Indo-Iranian speakers. Who were the OG Proto-Turkics then N-VL67, Q-L330, J-PH1795 ?


You answered yourself.

R1a being related to Altaic exists only in your fantasies.

[tk'es]

haplogroups have nothing to do with a specific ethnic group


speaking of r1a, there's indeed a high prevalence among altaic and kyrgyz people


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Mapa_de_R1a.png




likewise r1b


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Haplogrupo_R1b_%28ADN-Y%29.png


high frequency among turkmens, bashkir and chad peoples

[The_Strategist]

Chose ISOGG tree not the Experimental one, and scroll down a bit so we can see which subclade you fall into.123840

[Demirkazık]

haplogroups have nothing to do with a specific ethnic group speaking of r1a, there's indeed a high prevalence among altaic and kyrgyz people

Long live brother, at one time the R1a-Z93 may've spoken Proto-Indo-Iranic but it was already a Proto-Yenisaian or Samoyedic speaking when it got absorbed into the Proto-Turkic genepool. If not for that we would encounter good amounts of Indo-European influence especially Proto-Indo-Iranic but we see almost none.
I doubt anyone would argue to the Proto-Turkics getting their R-S23592 related Y-DNA from Cherkaskul, Tagar and Karasuk cultures, these cultures were either Samoyedic or Yeniseic speaking hence the huge amounts of Proto-Turkic borrowings in Proto-Samoyedic.

[Touijer]

My subclade is very rare, usually people get df27 or u152

[Abti]

My subclade is very rare, usually people get df27 or u152

I think you and our member rothaer have the same subclade. He is German, Eastern German but also R-S1194. R-S1194 overall is a relatively rarer Euro clade sibling of R-U106 and R-P312, nice.

[Touijer]

I know one or two, me. I am J2a-L26 from Ethiopia. With closer links to southernmost Arab countries. That are Saudi Arabia, Oman & Yemen.

I know another one which is R1b1-P25.1 in Somalia.

Both having a frequency next to none or 0.5% of their countries.

I would have expected J1, J2 is definitely surprising

[gixajo]

Thanks. did I run it correctly? 123834


123840

Well, R1a-Z2125 with cladefinder and M417 with Morley´s...here we go again... did you use MyHeritage raw data?


That is cool. Croats and Serbs have iranian links according to some historians

I was predicted Z2125 using MH raw data and if I remember well a Croat woman´s male relative received the same prediction, and no one of us were actually Z2125.

I am Ra-Z280 (Z91) and I don´t remember well if that Croat man was R1a-Z282 or also Z280...

[kingmob]

Use yseq cladefinder.

[gixajo]

Well, my haplogroup is quite rare for my ethnicity.

I am R1a-Z280>YP5000>BY27340>FTA64118.

https://i.postimg.cc/4dNGwBK0/r1aespa-a.png (https://postimages.org/)

And as far as I know, most of the R1a in Spain use to be Z93.

I'm not lying: I would have liked to be R1a-Z2125

[Abti]

Use yseq cladefinder.

J2a-M67

[Abti]

Well, my haplogroup is quite rare for my ethnicity.

I am R1a-Z280>YP5000>BY27340>FTA64118.

https://i.postimg.cc/4dNGwBK0/r1aespa-a.png (https://postimages.org/)

And as far as I know, most of the R1a in Spain was Z93.

I'm not lying: I would have liked to be R1a-Z2125

Knew personally a Spaniard who was R-Y6 it was pretty weird. I think it was mostly due to the Muslim conquest of Andalusia.

[gixajo]

Knew personally a Spaniard who was R-Y6 it was pretty weird. I think it was mostly due to the Muslim conquest of Andalusia.

Maybe R-Y6 is more related with gypsy acestry.

[kingmob]

haplogroups have nothing to do with a specific ethnic group


speaking of r1a, there's indeed a high prevalence among altaic and kyrgyz people


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Mapa_de_R1a.png




likewise r1b


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Haplogrupo_R1b_%28ADN-Y%29.png


high frequency among turkmens, bashkir and chad peoples


What nonsense.

We are not referring to the modern distribution of these haplogroups but to their neolithic/chalcolithic spread that is associated with certain languages.

R1a/R1b are the Indo-European carriers, R1a is roughly related to the Corded Ware expansion and R1b(m269) to Yamnaya/Catacomb expansion.

Nothing to do with Altay, East Asia, Africa or what have you.

The modern spread shows how successful these paternal lineages were in asserting their reproduction.

[kingmob]

Furthermore, the Chad R1b is exclusively of the V88 variety which has nothing to do with the PIE m269, it's just indicative of the Euro HG migration in that particular region.

The Bashkirs and Turkmens' R1b is of the L584 nomeclature which is the vector of Yamnaya/Catacomb Caucasus route, the route that would eventually form the proto-Armenic speakers in the South Caucasus region and the surrounding areas.

One needs to be educated before making ignoramuses claims, delusions and copium are easy to be shot down.

[Katarzyna]

I really like that recently so many people focus on Y haplogroups. It’s very important and I think every guy should write their exact clade into their dating profile :)

[Abti]

I really like that recently so many people focus on Y haplogroups. It’s very important and I think every guy should write their exact clade into their dating profile :)

Literally 90% of these posts are because of me, you’re welcome.

Your favorite, MR. J.

[Katarzyna]

Literally 90% of these posts are because of me, you’re welcome.

Your favorite, MR. J.

You are doing an important contribution to society. Thank you! :clap:

[Ugo]

I really like that recently so many people focus on Y haplogroups. It’s very important and I think every guy should write their exact clade into their dating profile :)
For what? 99.9% of people don't know anything about this. "Hello, my name is Alex, I'm R1a"

[The_Strategist]

Well, R1a-Z2125 with cladefinder and M417 with Morley´s...here we go again... did you use MyHeritage raw data?

I was predicted Z2125 using MH raw data and if I remember well a Croat woman´s male relative received the same prediction, and no one of us were actually Z2125.

I am Ra-Z280 (Z91) and I don´t remember well if that Croat man was R1a-Z282 or also Z280...

Yes

[rothaer]

I really like that recently so many people focus on Y haplogroups. It’s very important and I think every guy should write their exact clade into their dating profile :)

I'd be interested in an U5b2b woman as I can not pass down this ingenious mtDNA of mine myself. :p

[CountGrishnackh]

I know one or two, me. I am J2a-L26 from Ethiopia. With closer links to southernmost Arab countries. That are Saudi Arabia, Oman & Yemen.

I know another one which is R1b1-P25.1 in Somalia.

Both having a frequency next to none or 0.5% of their countries.

You're my brother from another mother. How come you're so down south?

[Abti]

You're my brother from another mother. How come you're so down south?

Curiosity. I guess.

[Abti]

R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.

What is THE Turkic vector group? N & C?

[chinshen]

Furthermore, the Chad R1b is exclusively of the V88 variety which has nothing to do with the PIE m269, it's just indicative of the Euro HG migration in that particular region.

The Bashkirs and Turkmens' R1b is of the L584 nomeclature which is the vector of Yamnaya/Catacomb Caucasus route, the route that would eventually form the proto-Armenic speakers in the South Caucasus region and the surrounding areas.

One needs to be educated before making ignoramuses claims, delusions and copium are easy to be shot down.

What about R1b-L23-L277.1?
What is the origin of L277.1, I am L277.1

[Dick]

For what? 99.9% of people don't know anything about this. "Hello, my name is Alex, I'm R1a"

“Hell, my name is gixajo and I am R1a”

How does it feel to be related to gixajo, russkie.

[Abti]

What about R1b-L23-L277.1?
What is the origin of L277.1, I am L277.1

Indo-Hittite a lot of Jews under this branch.

[gixajo]

Indo-Hittite a lot of Jews under this branch.

Could be right...Ukraine (Cherkasy oblast and Crimea), Romania (Maramures), Tajikistan (Ishkoshim, Gorno-Badakhshan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishkoshim,_Tajikistan)) and Lebanon.

https://i.imgur.com/DARlIyO.png

[chinshen]

Indo-Hittite a lot of Jews under this branch.

Thanks, but what does Indo-Hittite really mean?
What does India have to do with the Hittites of Anatolia?
It doesn't tell much, Jews fall under so many different types and branches of Haplogroups.

[chinshen]

Could be right...Ukraine (Cherkasy oblast and Crimea), Romania (Maramures), Tajikistan (Ishkoshim, Gorno-Badakhshan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishkoshim,_Tajikistan)) and Lebanon.

https://i.imgur.com/DARlIyO.png

Only Romania seems to be L277.1
Ukraine, Lebanon and Tajikistan seem to be different branches. Related, but different branches than L277.1

[Abti]

Thanks, but what does Indo-Hittite really mean?
What does India have to do with the Hittites of Anatolia?
It doesn't tell much, Jews fall under so many different types and branches of Haplogroups.

It means Indo - European - Hittite. shortened version.

[Abti]

Only Romania seems to be L277.1
Ukraine, Lebanon and Tajikistan seem to be different branches. Related, but different branches than L277.1

Your haplogroup is R-Y4366 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y4366/)

That image is archived.

[Abti]

Could be right...Ukraine (Cherkasy oblast and Crimea), Romania (Maramures), Tajikistan (Ishkoshim, Gorno-Badakhshan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishkoshim,_Tajikistan)) and Lebanon.

https://i.imgur.com/DARlIyO.png

There are no Jews in Lebanon.