Can you model yourself with 50% one parent with K13 or G25? How?

[Nurzat]

Can you model yourself with 50% one parent with K13 or G25? How?

so let's say you have the results of one of your parents (and your own result as well) and want to model yourself with that parent's coordinates in the source, but you want it to get 50% of you, which is also real, so that you will push the calculator to give you that other 50% mixed from the other components in the source. how to do it? if not in Vahaduo, then in Python or R, can you help with instructions?

[Nurzat]

actually I think I could just run the other parent as my phased kit for that other half of the genome tested, as that is the same, and easier to do

[marco]

I tried to model my son as 50 percent with my cords it didn't work

[gixajo]

Can you model yourself with 50% one parent with K13 or G25? How?

so let's say you have the results of one of your parents (and your own result as well) and want to model yourself with that parent's coordinates in the source, but you want it to get 50% of you, which is also real, so that you will push the calculator to give you that other 50% mixed from the other components in the source. how to do it? if not in Vahaduo, then in Python or R, can you help with instructions?

You can use this 2 way tool using your father/mother coordinates as" Fixed source population" and adding the whole modern averages datasheet to the sources (and your parent coordinates among them, of course) :

https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh

It's the first thing that occurred to me as a solution to what you propose, I haven't tried it so I don't know to what extent it works. It won't give you a 50% father/50% mother result, but you can always assume that the parent you're missing will be X% similar to the parent of known coordinates+the extra % of whatever.

[gixajo]

This is waht I get adding my father´s coordinates but without fixing his coordinates:

256,686 models (52 ms):
0.013 gixajo_scaled = 59% Spanish_Aragon_North + 41% gixajo_dad_scaled
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 53% French_South + 47% gixajo_dad_scaled
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 52% gixajo_dad_scaled + 48% French_Chalosse
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 58% gixajo_dad_scaled + 42% Basque_Roncal
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 62% Spanish_Aragon_North + 38% Portuguese
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 51% gixajo_dad_scaled + 49% French_Bearn
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 60% Spanish_Aragon_North + 40% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 60% gixajo_dad_scaled + 40% Basque_Araba
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 59% Spanish_Aragon_North + 41% Spanish_Andalucia
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 57% gixajo_dad_scaled + 43% French_Occitanie

My mother is Basque from Southern Araba (Álava) province, so not bad.

My mother would be 20% gixajo_father -like+80% Basque Araba :)

In my case, both parents are Spanish, but from two quite easily distinguishable populations background, so if your parents are very similar genetically maybe you will need use that "fixed source population".

[gixajo]

And fixing his coordinates:

358.5 models (10 ms):
0.013 gixajo_scaled = 59% Spanish_Aragon_North + 41% gixajo_dad_scaled
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 53% French_South + 47% gixajo_dad_scaled
0.014 gixajo_scaled = 52% gixajo_dad_scaled + 48% French_Chalosse
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 58% gixajo_dad_scaled + 42% Basque_Roncal
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 51% gixajo_dad_scaled + 49% French_Bearn
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 60% gixajo_dad_scaled + 40% Basque_Araba
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 57% gixajo_dad_scaled + 43% French_Occitanie
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 70% Spanish_Pirineu + 30% gixajo_dad_scaled
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 71% gixajo_dad_scaled + 29% French_Pas-de-Calais
0.015 gixajo_scaled = 75% Spanish_Aragon + 25% gixajo_dad_scaled

So if the algorithm choose itself you parent coordinates as one of the two likely references to model you, maybe you will not need to use that "fixed source population" feature.

[Boudin]

Multiply each coordinate of your parent by 0.5 and subtract each of them from your corresponding coordinate. I think.

[JayH]

Multiply each coordinate of your parent by 0.5 and subtract each of them from your corresponding coordinate. I think.


.. and multiply by two, to have the fictitious coordinate of your other parent.

[Nurzat]

You can use this 2 way tool using your father/mother coordinates as" Fixed source population" and adding the whole modern averages datasheet to the sources (and your parent coordinates among them, of course) :

https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh

thanks, it works nicely! I was more curious of the break down beyond 50% for my mom, to see the exotic components at low percentage - as my mom is northeast Romanian, i.e. Moldovan, the result is normal, as Moldovans are closest to ex-Yugos due to higher Slavic than Romanians.

0.014 Nurzat = 52% Serbian + 48% Nurzat_dad
0.015 Nurzat = 50% Romanian_revised + 50% Nurzat_dad
0.015 Nurzat = 50% Montenegrin + 50% Nurzat_dad
0.016 Nurzat = 52% Moldovan + 48% Nurzat_dad
0.016 Nurzat = 52% Bosnian + 48% Nurzat_dad
0.017 Nurzat = 50% Macedonian + 50% Nurzat_dad
0.017 Nurzat = 50% Bulgarian + 50% Nurzat_dad
0.019 Nurzat = 52% Croatian + 48% Nurzat_dad
0.020 Nurzat = 50% Austrian + 50% Nurzat_dad
0.021 Nurzat = 50% Hungarian + 50% Nurzat_dad
0.021 Nurzat = 50% Slovenian + 50% Nurzat_dad

[Nurzat]

You can use this 2 way tool using your father/mother coordinates as" Fixed source population" and adding the whole modern averages datasheet to the sources (and your parent coordinates among them, of course) :

https://output.jsbin.com/gojecoh

your link is super as on another page on that site it also converts various calculators coordinates to simulated G25. thanks, bro

https://output.jsbin.com/putawif

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat_mom_phased_sim
Distance: 1.3557% / 0.01355662
69.6 Romanian_Moldova_Vaslui_sim
30.4 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_sim
0.0 Roma_Romania_sim
0.0 Tatar_Crimean_steppe

0.014 Nurzat_mom_phased_sim = 70% Romanian_Moldova_Vaslui + 30% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
0.018 Nurzat_mom_phased_sim = 100% Romanian_Moldova_Vaslui + 0% Roma_Romania


Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.9104% / 0.02910437
81.4 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_sim
11.8 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
6.8 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
0.0 Roma_Romania_sim
0.0 Romanian_Moldova_Suceava_sim


when I add Austrian (his village was partly colonized by Austrian on top of initial Ruthenian colonists that founded the village, some very small Jewish population present as well for about a century only; it's only the Tatar that I cannot explain):

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.7941% / 0.02794123
48.0 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_sim
39.2 Austrian
7.2 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
5.6 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.0 Roma_Romania_sim
0.0 Romanian_Moldova_Suceava_sim