Classify two Mestizo-looking Argentine rugby players

[Tooting Carmen]

Gonzalo Garcia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Gonzalo_Garc%C3%ADa_2022.jpg/800px-Gonzalo_Garc%C3%ADa_2022.jpghttps://www.zebreparma.it/public/img/GonzaloGarciasitoZebreParma-193429.jpg

Santiago Chocobares
https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/rwc2023/person-images-site/player-profile/63147.pnghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8jcoGJXQAAfHJ_.jpg

[Xacal]

They look trirracial

[Erronkari]

1st look
Alpinized Berid+Lagid

2nd
Atlanto Med+Pampid
He has some pseudo SSA residual vibe but I am not sure if it's real african.
Both are probably between harnizos and balanced mestizos to me.

[perikolez]

They are the mythitical black argentineans.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Chocobares is from Rosario, but his last name is quechua, so he is probably andid, at least to some degree.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

They are the mythitical black argentineans.
Chocobares looks like a toltec stone head:D

[100eyes]

Second guy looks triracial
First is mostly indigenous, like 70%

[Tooting Carmen]

Both are probably between harnizos and balanced mestizos to me.

Isn't the first one more likely Indo-Mestizo?

[axel.aleman]

Indomestizo
Balanced mestizo

[Tooting Carmen]

Indomestizo
Balanced mestizo

Do you see any SSA in them (especially the 2nd one)?

[axel.aleman]

Do you see any SSA in them (especially the 2nd one)?

El Segundo podría parecer pardo de mi zona pero no creo que tenga SSA, no todos los inputs nativos son como el Centralid o el Amazonid que dan un aspecto más asiático y de cráneo braquicefalicos. El Margid, el Andid y el Pampid con una buena cantidad de Europeo aveces pueden dar fenotipo de pseudomulato por un cráneo mesocefalico o docilocefalico y algunas facciones pseudoSSA, además de ser más dominante en pigmentación
También acuérdate que los afroargentinos se extinguieron en la guerra de la Triple Alianza o huyeron de Sarmiento hacia Uruguay

[aherne]

1st guy is mostly amerindian(75%+)
2nd guy looks mixed, but not Spanish + Amerindian (more like Middle Eastern + some African mix)

[Odelia]

1st look
Alpinized Berid+Lagid

2nd
Atlanto Med+Pampid
He has some pseudo SSA residual vibe but I am not sure if it's real african.
Both are probably between harnizos and balanced mestizos to me.
Pretty absurd and ridiculous to use european phenotypes on very non-european looking people, and yet people say I darkwash europeans!

First guy looks like a normal balanced mestizo. What berid?? And second guy looks egyptian/egyptid, easily passing in egypt to palestine and southern iraq. If that's atlanto med then Saddam hussein is north atlantid! :picard1:

[Erronkari]

Pretty absurd and ridiculous to use european phenotypes on very non-european looking people, and yet people say I darkwash europeans!

First guy looks like a normal balanced mestizo. What berid?? And second guy looks egyptian/egyptid, easily passing in egypt to palestine and southern iraq. If that's atlanto med then Saddam hussein is north atlantid! :picard1:


You are right about the first.
Probably I shouldn't say "Berid" since you are right, he is balanced/indomestizo.
I also failed regarding that fact.

But the second being also mestizo, of course his skin tone is more pigmented than a Mediterranean without another admixture.
And the mix probably gives him a MENA or West Asían vibe.

I probably didn't classify accurately this time. ;)

P.s.: Although I take advantage to say to the other users that these types are not "rare" at all in Argentina.
I see a lot of people that consider that also myself, I look odd in Argentina...
Well, people who say that should check their concepts.

[Andullero]

Indomestizo
Balanced mestizo

Ditto.