Very ancient calculator (scaled).

[Voskos]

CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998
NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1,0.045529,-0.010155,0.00528,0.09367,0.048009,0.004183,-0.00611,-0.002308,0.06463,0.018588,0.001461,-0.003897,0.008028,-0.019405,0.0095,0.020021,0.011343,0.006714,-0.010936,0.032015,0.023459,0.007914,-0.020089,-0.061936,-0.001197
SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron,0.073985,0.044683,0.101068,0.13 0493,0.110482,0.032909,0.00047,0.00923,0.0859,0.02 5149,-0.005684,-0.007343,0.01115,-0.010459,0.03488,0.039644,0.00339,0.004814,-0.016215,0.046772,0.066133,0.007914,-0.035865,-0.130741,0.011017
ASI:Onge,-0.0225251,-0.2445288,-0.1324289,0.095965,0.0299327,-0.0047557,-0.0076438,0.0075786,0.0548233,0.0244388,0.023495,0 .0032182,-0.0040608,0.0084746,-0.0126933,-0.0111446,0.010918,-0.0016203,-0.0059807,0.0288295,-0.0037107,0.0096905,-0.0128242,-0.0011225,0.0043426
NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB,0.062603,0.1635,-0.032809,-0.135984,0.018773,-0.063308,-0.019036,-0.016153,0.091422,0.025331,0.017213,-0.026676,0.049653,0.004679,0.00285,0.001724,-0.008345,-0.0019,-0.01081,0.019384,-0.001872,0.004699,-0.001972,-0.013616,0.000958
AFRICA:Mbuti,-0.647426,0.0591038,0.0254932,0.0374034,-0.001108,0.0066378,0.3663348,-0.293434,0.0177118,0.02985,-0.0089316,0.2198242,0.1264506,0.0010182,0.010342,-0.0014052,0.0009386,-0.0518664,0.014229,0.003727,0.0061144,-0.0018548,-0.0043878,0.0025304,-0.0006944
EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia,0.0379409,-0.371413,0.043947,-0.0371881,-0.0167621,-0.0105235,0.0123304,0.0113225,-0.0065447,0.0062931,-0.0453389,-0.0054851,0.0038851,-0.0029177,-0.0001267,-0.0007161,0.0014517,-0.0010051,0.0008799,0.0041769,-0.0086931,4.11e-05,-0.005086,0.000257,0.0027861
EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic,0.114961,0.167562,0.0301 7,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

[Voskos]

Target:
Distance: 5.6830% / 0.05683031
51.4 EEF
20.2 CAUCASIAN
16.8 NATUFIAN
11.6 WEST-EURASIAN

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 7.2294% / 0.07229368
60.8 EEF
17.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.6 SOUTH-EURO
7.0 CAUCASIAN
4.6 NATUFIAN

[paradox]

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 6.6394% / 0.06639356
61.8 EEF
20.4 WEST-EURASIAN
16.0 CAUCASIAN
1.8 NATUFIAN

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 8.3936% / 0.08393565
63.2 EEF
26.0 WEST-EURASIAN
9.0 CAUCASIAN
1.2 SOUTH-EURO
0.6 NATUFIAN

[true_southron]

Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 6.6490% / 0.06649030
67.8 EEF
21.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.2 CAUCASIAN
1.0 SOUTH-EURO

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 11.4762% / 0.11476154
48.6 EEF
35.2 WEST-EURASIAN
16.2 SOUTH-EURO


Low EEF, as always :)

[Beowulf]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0742% / 0.07417048
65.3 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
21.9 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
8.3 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
4.5 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

[Kiel]

Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 9.1664% / 0.09166403
57.2 EEF
28.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.8 SOUTH-EURO
4.0 CAUCASIAN

[true_southron]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0742% / 0.07417048
65.3 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
21.9 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
8.3 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
4.5 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

Very similar result to mine

[Beowulf]

Very similar result to mine

True! the only difference is the Caucasian and SOUTH-EURO percentage but the West eurasian and EEF is almost the same :)

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.1461% / 0.14614960 | ADC: 2x RC

50.8 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
49.2 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.1026% / 0.10260352 | ADC: 1x RC

58.3 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
41.7 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.0990% / 0.09901254 | ADC: 0.5x RC

53.2 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
36.1 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
10.7 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.0990% / 0.09901254 | ADC: 0.25x RC

53.2 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
36.1 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
10.7 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.0990% / 0.09899853

52.8 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
35.6 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
11.0 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.6 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 6.9096% / 0.06909631
62.6 EEF
16.8 WEST-EURASIAN
14.2 SOUTH-EURO
5.2 CAUCASIAN
1.2 NATUFIAN

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 6.7970% / 0.06796990
64.4 EEF
17.0 WEST-EURASIAN
12.8 SOUTH-EURO
5.0 CAUCASIAN
0.8 NATUFIAN

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 6.4696% / 0.06469552
63.2 EEF
15.0 WEST-EURASIAN
13.4 SOUTH-EURO
5.6 CAUCASIAN
2.8 NATUFIAN



Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 9.5843% / 0.09584336 | ADC: 1x RC
65.4 EEF
34.6 NORTH-EURO

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.4332% / 0.07433151 | ADC: 1x RC
73.4 EEF
26.6 WEST-EURASIAN

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 9.0688% / 0.09068763 | ADC: 1x RC
68.0 EEF
32.0 NORTH-EURO

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 10.2868% / 0.10286783
57.6 EEF
32.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.4 SOUTH-EURO

[Petalpusher]

Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 10.5049% / 0.10504906
57.0 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
29.4 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
13.6 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

Distance to: Petalpusher
0.18166060 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.22874822 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.25624498 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.26107651 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.30345296 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.34566589 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.49068442 ASI:Onge
0.55290970 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.59673747 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
0.96536670 AFRICA:Mbuti

[lockdownboredom]

Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 8.3752% / 0.08375218
66.6 EEF
18.8 WEST-EURASIAN
14.6 CAUCASIAN

Target: Nephew
Distance: 6.4107% / 0.06410728
69.2 EEF
16.2 WEST-EURASIAN
14.6 CAUCASIAN

[Albannach]

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 11.3617% / 0.11361703
53.8 EEF
34.4 WEST-EURASIAN
11.8 SOUTH-EURO

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.20880039 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.22243533 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.25483105 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.27370399 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.27898569 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.33505136 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.46760965 ASI:Onge
0.53233410 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.57331405 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
0.95670143 AFRICA:Mbuti

[Hulu]

Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 4.6141% / 0.04614071
69.8 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
15.2 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
14.0 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
1.0 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.11694366 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.18101485 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.24034640 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.29027822 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.30746780 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.33243754 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.46161756 ASI:Onge
0.52900525 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.57929104 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
0.93789790 AFRICA:Mbuti

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 10.6964% / 0.10696363
52.2 EEF
33.4 WEST-EURASIAN
14.4 SOUTH-EURO

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.2627% / 0.07262671
66.2 EEF
17.4 WEST-EURASIAN
12.8 SOUTH-EURO
3.6 CAUCASIAN

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 6.4952% / 0.06495190
68.6 EEF
18.2 WEST-EURASIAN
7.6 SOUTH-EURO
3.4 CAUCASIAN
2.2 NATUFIAN

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 8.2281% / 0.08228111
65.4 EEF
19.8 WEST-EURASIAN
13.8 SOUTH-EURO
1.0 CAUCASIAN

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 7.0839% / 0.07083941
68.4 EEF
16.8 WEST-EURASIAN
14.0 SOUTH-EURO
0.8 CAUCASIAN

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 7.3533% / 0.07353252
61.4 EEF
18.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.8 SOUTH-EURO
8.4 CAUCASIAN
1.4 NATUFIAN

[Kenshiro]

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 5.3382% / 0.05338243
66.0 EEF
17.2 WEST-EURASIAN
16.8 CAUCASIAN

[Katarzyna]

I feel like the EEF score is very high on average in this forum :)

[Vitez]

Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 0.0853% / 0.08525403
57.9 EEF
29.5 WEST-EURASIAN
9.0 SOUTH-EURO
3.6 CAUCASIAN

[tipirneni]

Target: Tipirneni_scaled
Distance: 12.2158% / 0.12215815
46.4 ASI:Onge
40.0 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
13.6 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.20230969 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.22167660 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.25628151 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.27033563 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.28017085 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.33476347 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.46633849 ASI:Onge
0.53026288 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.57139836 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
0.95580437 AFRICA:Mbuti

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 10.8442% / 0.10844197
55.4 EEF
34.2 WEST-EURASIAN
10.4 SOUTH-EURO

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 10.8442% / 0.10844197
55.4 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
34.2 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
10.4 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

[Vessna]

Target: Vessna_Husband_scaled
Distance: 10.7554% / 0.10755432
41.0 WEST-EURASIAN
39.6 EEF
19.4 SOUTH-EURO

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 12.0310% / 0.12030965
48.4 EEF
37.2 WEST-EURASIAN
14.4 SOUTH-EURO

[majevica]

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 8.6165% / 0.08616506
60.0 EEF
28.0 WEST-EURASIAN
8.0 SOUTH-EURO
4.0 CAUCASIAN

[alexmegas777]

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 7.9088% / 0.07908792
65.4 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
25.4 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
6.2 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
3.0 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

[MandM]

Target: Milenko
Distance: 7.8675% / 0.07867485
66.4 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
27.4 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
6.2 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

[Katarzyna]

Target: Vessna_Husband_scaled
Distance: 10.7554% / 0.10755432
41.0 WEST-EURASIAN
39.6 EEF
19.4 SOUTH-EURO

Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 12.0310% / 0.12030965
48.4 EEF
37.2 WEST-EURASIAN
14.4 SOUTH-EURO

I feel like me and you alwas have very similar results. Probably if we compare our coordinates we come out as PCA sisters

[someonenotyou]

Target:
Distance: 9.2189% / 0.09218937
57.0 EEF
29.0 WEST-EURASIAN
8.2 SOUTH-EURO
5.8 CAUCASIAN

[Voskos]

Lol, the Northern Slavs being the most Southern Euro of all. Ironic...

[Vessna]

Lol, the Northern Slavs being the most Southern Euro of all. Ironic...

It’s the way that calculator is designed/labeled. Has nothing to do with northern Slavs being “southern”.

[Kess]

I feel like the EEF score is very high on average in this forum :)

Everyone is a Turk in this forum but they are unfortunately in denial :D

[majevica]

Everyone is a Turk in this forum but they are unfortunately in denial :D

Look how the term EEF is used instead of ANF/AHG even though these samples come from Anatolia

They want to hide the fact that we are Ancient Anatolians…

[Katarzyna]

Look how the term EEF is used instead of ANF/AHG even though these samples come from Anatolia

They want to hide the fact that we are Ancient Anatolians...

What’s the problem with coming from Anatolia?

[majevica]

What’s the problem with coming from Anatolia?

Don't ask me, I don't have a problem with being from Anatolia

[Vessna]

I feel like me and you alwas have very similar results. Probably if we compare our coordinates we come out as PCA sisters

I actually will be curious to see how we plot. I can post my PCA here later.

[DomitiusAurelian]

Look how the term EEF is used instead of ANF/AHG even though these samples come from Anatolia

They want to hide the fact that we are Ancient Anatolians...

Make the Hittite Empire Great Again

[Katarzyna]

I actually will be curious to see how we plot. I can post my PCA here later.

Would you also share your coordinates with me?

[Petalpusher]

Lol, the Northern Slavs being the most Southern Euro of all. Ironic...

You ve been very cheeky with those old "WHGs" ;)

[Katarzyna]

You ve been very cheeky with those old "WHGs" ;)

Exactly. Southern Europe stands for WHG here since majority of WHG fossils were found in Southern Europe during Mesolithics and were later replaced by EEFs.

Distance to: Western_Hunter_Gatherer:WHG
0.15632002 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.31649165 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.42248090 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.42271762 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.48698230 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.56477188 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.57550383 ASI:Onge
0.63914466 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.67655020 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
1.01543809 AFRICA:Mbuti

[Rafael Passoni]

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 6.2683% / 0.06268314
74.8 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
15.8 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
9.0 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.4 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

[Petalpusher]

Exactly. Southern Europe stands for WHG here since majority of WHG fossils were found in Southern Europe during Mesolithics and were later replaced by EEFs.

Distance to: Western_Hunter_Gatherer:WHG
0.15632002 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.31649165 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.42248090 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.42271762 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.48698230 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.56477188 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.57550383 ASI:Onge
0.63914466 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.67655020 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
1.01543809 AFRICA:Mbuti

Goyet Q116 is a very old Paleolithic 35ky of age which appeared quite mixed as it was the case for all of them back then since they were not as separated from ENA yet at that point. That's why for Europeans it prefers El Miron which is more recent and closer to regular Villabrunians WHG's but still not quite like them either. Those old Paleolithics lineages were replaced way before the neolithic and progressively some other WHG groups took hold in Europe around the LGM (ice age)

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-023-05726-0/MediaObjects/41586_2023_5726_Fig1_HTML.png

[Katarzyna]

Goyet Q116 is a very old Paleolithic 35ky of age which appeared quite mixed as it was the case for all of them back then since they were not as separated from ENA yet at that point. That's why for Europeans it prefers El Miron which is more recent and closer to regular Villabrunians WHG's but still not quite like them either. Those old Paleolithics lineages were replaced way before the neolithic and progressively some other WHG groups took hold in Europe around the LGM (ice age)

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-023-05726-0/MediaObjects/41586_2023_5726_Fig1_HTML.png

Oh, yes! Thank you for adding this. Sorry guys; the ancient paleolithic El Miron wasn’t the same as the Villabruna WHG and it was replaced long before the arrival of Neolithic farmers. However, the Villabruna was still closer related to other European WHG than to the other options in this calculator such as EEF, West-Eurasian etc. I only tried to simplify it, since the question was why Northern Europeans score higher in “Southern European” in this calculator since it sounds very confusing at first. So we can say that those (modern Europeans) who score high in WHG ancestry will get a lot of El Miron HG ancestry in this calc, although the distance is obviously bad since it’s very far from the modern population. But also kinda expected as the name of this calculator is “very ancient calculator”

[Kess]

Look how the term EEF is used instead of ANF/AHG even though these samples come from Anatolia

They want to hide the fact that we are Ancient Anatolians…

She looks pretty Anatolian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_European_Farmers#/media/File:Homo_sapiens_-_Neolithic_-_reconstruction_-_MUSE.jpg

Early European Farmers (EEF), First European Farmers (FEF), Neolithic European Farmers, Ancient Aegean Farmers, or Anatolian Neolithic Farmers (ANF) are names used to describe a distinct group of early Neolithic farmers who brought agriculture to Europe

EEF has many names I don't know what reason.

[Kess]

Don't ask me, I don't have a problem with being from Anatolia

Do you think Turks have a problem with being Anatolian? xD

[majevica]

Do you think Turks have a problem with being Anatolian? xD

No, but there are people (some Europeans) who prefer to use the term EEF instead of ANF because they don't really like the fact that these farmers came from Anatolia

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 6.4160% / 0.06415977
65.0 EEF
15.6 WEST-EURASIAN
10.2 SOUTH-EURO
9.0 CAUCASIAN
0.2 NATUFIAN

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler
Distance: 5.7398% / 0.05739831
55.8 EEF
25.4 WEST-EURASIAN
16.6 CAUCASIAN
2.2 SOUTH-EURO

Target: Father
Distance: 6.8862% / 0.06886249
47.6 EEF
24.4 CAUCASIAN
20.4 WEST-EURASIAN
7.6 SOUTH-EURO

[Kiel]

I feel like the EEF score is very high on average in this forum :)

We are a bunch of wogs.

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 9.5611% / 0.09561092
61.8 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
28.6 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
6.0 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
3.6 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

[Voskos]

But also kinda expected as the name of this calculator is “very ancient calculator”

You shouldn't disrespect people just because you don't understand them. That goes for most Poles and Northern Slavs.

[Katarzyna]

You shouldn't disrespect people just because you don't understand them. That goes for most Poles and Northern Slavs.

How do I disrespect you EEF guys?

[Voskos]

How do I disrespect you EEF guys?

aren't you making fun of how I named this calculator a ''very ancient calculator''?

[Katarzyna]

aren't you making fun of how I named this calculator a ''very ancient calculator''?

No, I don’t. I only analyse your calculator which is a sign that I really find it interesting. See it as a compliment when people are talking about it

[Voskos]

No, I don’t. I only analyse your calculator which is a sign that I really find it interesting. See it as a compliment when people are talking about it

I must admit David Wesolowski gave us some nice tools indeed. He's good with math.

[Ahmet]

Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 6.3055% / 0.06305537
49.0 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
40.8 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
6.6 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
3.6 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia

[Voskos]

Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 6.3055% / 0.06305537
49.0 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
40.8 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
6.6 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
3.6 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia

nerede misin??

[Ahmet]

nerede misin??

did you mean to say "nerelisin?" if so I am from Izmir and Erzurum

[Voskos]

did you mean to say "nerelisin?" if so I am from Izmir and Erzurum

yes, forgive my turkce. I learn a few phrases from Ezel series and Yabanci Damat series but this goes back some time ago.

[Ahmet]

yes, forgive my turkce. I learn a few phrases from Ezel series and Yabanci Damat series but this goes back some time ago.

Haha that is totally fine, there is nothing to forgive about, I understood what you meant to say and that is all that matters.

[yngviktor]

Target: Viktor
Distance: 8.6401% / 0.08640056
60.8 EEF
26.4 WEST-EURASIAN
7.4 SOUTH-EURO
5.4 CAUCASIAN

[Petalpusher]

She looks pretty Anatolian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_European_Farmers#/media/File:Homo_sapiens_-_Neolithic_-_reconstruction_-_MUSE.jpg

Early European Farmers (EEF), First European Farmers (FEF), Neolithic European Farmers, Ancient Aegean Farmers, or Anatolian Neolithic Farmers (ANF) are names used to describe a distinct group of early Neolithic farmers who brought agriculture to Europe

EEF has many names I don't know what reason.

It just depends on the location of the sample. If you sample LBK Stuttgart it's called EEF more naturally as it's in Europe. If you sample Barcin it should be called ANF or AHG if we talk about the mesolithic hunter gatherer group they descend from, etc... Many times people don't use the right terms, even caught that in studies. They are a bit different too depending how early you catch them in Europe, they tend to already have absorbed some local WHG along the way and further more in the middle and late neolithic.

Turks are not very EEF anyway today, id say most even north euro beat them to it. Turkey is almost as much of this "Caucasian", which is the more intense basal stuff from Iran neolithic in this calculator.

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 7.0451% / 0.07045143
56.0 EEF
16.8 WEST-EURASIAN
10.2 NATUFIAN
10.0 SOUTH-EURO
6.0 CAUCASIAN
1.0 AFRICA

[Figaro]

Target: CordedFather
Distance: 10.2294% / 0.10229407
57.0 EEF
33.2 WEST-EURASIAN
9.8 SOUTH-EURO

Target: CordedMother
Distance: 9.9063% / 0.09906296
54.8 EEF
34.0 WEST-EURASIAN
11.2 SOUTH-EURO

[Kess]

Target: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 6.7799% / 0.06779887
45.0 EEF
36.6 CAUCASIAN
16.0 WEST-EURASIAN
2.4 EAST-ASIAN

Distance to: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
0.20921627 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
0.20957473 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG
0.21985911 NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB
0.23204816 NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1
0.28832112 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
0.33104173 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
0.41437794 ASI:Onge
0.48051340 EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
0.53436864 PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea
0.92764980 AFRICA:Mbuti

#WeAreAllWogs.

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_v2_scaled
Distance: 6.0899% / 0.06089895
54.8 EEF
27.2 CAUCASIAN
17.0 WEST-EURASIAN
1.0 NATUFIAN

[axel.aleman]

Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 12.7195% / 0.12719524
24.2 PALEO-SIBERID
18.6 EEF
14.0 AFRICA
13.0 WEST-EURASIAN
11.4 NATUFIAN
7.6 ASI
7.4 SOUTH-EURO
3.8 CAUCASIAN

[Rædwald]

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 8.9540% / 0.08954017
54.8 EEF
33.0 WEST-EURASIAN
12.2 SOUTH-EURO

[djipon]

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 7.7026% / 0.07702609
63.2 EEF
26.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.6 CAUCASIAN
0.2 SOUTH-EURO

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 7.1324% / 0.07132421
53.6 EEF
22.4 WEST-EURASIAN
12.8 NATUFIAN
8.4 SOUTH-EURO
2.2 CAUCASIAN
0.6 AFRICA

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 6.7827% / 0.06782678
53.2 EEF
20.2 WEST-EURASIAN
13.2 NATUFIAN
10.6 SOUTH-EURO
1.4 AFRICA
1.4 CAUCASIAN

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 7.0254% / 0.07025444
61.2 EEF
21.0 WEST-EURASIAN
10.0 SOUTH-EURO
4.6 NATUFIAN
3.0 CAUCASIAN
0.2 AFRICA

[Julkka]

Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 10.5908% / 0.10590816
38.6 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
36.8 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
24.6 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron

[CeltiberoGermanico]

CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG,0.037562,0.072103,-0.165556,-0.016473,-0.11756,0.01506,0.017861,-0.003231,-0.071583,-0.046835,0.003085,-0.003147,0.00669,0.000688,0.022122,0.053036,-0.011735,0.001014,0.014581,-0.035267,0.009358,-0.023741,-0.006655,-0.032896,0.019998
NORTH-EURO:Belgium_UP_GoyetQ116_1,0.045529,-0.010155,0.00528,0.09367,0.048009,0.004183,-0.00611,-0.002308,0.06463,0.018588,0.001461,-0.003897,0.008028,-0.019405,0.0095,0.020021,0.011343,0.006714,-0.010936,0.032015,0.023459,0.007914,-0.020089,-0.061936,-0.001197
SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron,0.073985,0.044683,0.101068,0.13 0493,0.110482,0.032909,0.00047,0.00923,0.0859,0.02 5149,-0.005684,-0.007343,0.01115,-0.010459,0.03488,0.039644,0.00339,0.004814,-0.016215,0.046772,0.066133,0.007914,-0.035865,-0.130741,0.011017
ASI:Onge,-0.0225251,-0.2445288,-0.1324289,0.095965,0.0299327,-0.0047557,-0.0076438,0.0075786,0.0548233,0.0244388,0.023495,0 .0032182,-0.0040608,0.0084746,-0.0126933,-0.0111446,0.010918,-0.0016203,-0.0059807,0.0288295,-0.0037107,0.0096905,-0.0128242,-0.0011225,0.0043426
NATUFIAN:Jordan_Late_PPNB,0.062603,0.1635,-0.032809,-0.135984,0.018773,-0.063308,-0.019036,-0.016153,0.091422,0.025331,0.017213,-0.026676,0.049653,0.004679,0.00285,0.001724,-0.008345,-0.0019,-0.01081,0.019384,-0.001872,0.004699,-0.001972,-0.013616,0.000958
AFRICA:Mbuti,-0.647426,0.0591038,0.0254932,0.0374034,-0.001108,0.0066378,0.3663348,-0.293434,0.0177118,0.02985,-0.0089316,0.2198242,0.1264506,0.0010182,0.010342,-0.0014052,0.0009386,-0.0518664,0.014229,0.003727,0.0061144,-0.0018548,-0.0043878,0.0025304,-0.0006944
EAST-ASIAN:Mongol_Inner_Mongolia,0.0379409,-0.371413,0.043947,-0.0371881,-0.0167621,-0.0105235,0.0123304,0.0113225,-0.0065447,0.0062931,-0.0453389,-0.0054851,0.0038851,-0.0029177,-0.0001267,-0.0007161,0.0014517,-0.0010051,0.0008799,0.0041769,-0.0086931,4.11e-05,-0.005086,0.000257,0.0027861
EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic,0.114961,0.167562,0.0301 7,-0.08075,0.072629,-0.039881,-0.00047,0.000231,0.046836,0.083282,0.004222,0.0077 93,-0.02215,-0.011836,-0.041123,-0.003845,0.043027,0.00114,0.008799,-0.004252,-0.011729,0.006801,-0.006286,-0.010122,-0.007784
WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG,0.079676,-0.023357,0.037335,0.186695,-0.070475,0.046575,-0.047472,-0.054921,-0.020452,-0.06925,0.028743,-0.010041,0.015907,-0.044865,0.017372,0.023071,-0.007302,0.00228,-0.00352,-0.00025,-0.028699,0.00371,0.011832,-0.006989,-0.002155
PALEO-SIBERID:Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695


Target: Yo_scaled
Distance: 6.7495% / 0.06749473
66.6 EEF:Turkey_Epipaleolithic
16.8 SOUTH-EURO:Spain_ElMiron
13.8 WEST-EURASIAN:Russia_MA1_HG.SG
2.8 CAUCASIAN:Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

[Anatolya]

Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 4.7509% / 0.04750875
43.8 EEF
37.2 CAUCASIAN
10.0 WEST-EURASIAN
9.0 NATUFIAN

[tk'es]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 10.3148% / 0.10314787
41.8 EEF
36.4 CAUCASIAN
21.8 WEST-EURASIAN

[chinshen]

138367

[chinshen]

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 10.3148% / 0.10314787
41.8 EEF
36.4 CAUCASIAN
21.8 WEST-EURASIAN

How is it possible that I have higher Caucasus than you when you are from the Caucasus and I am not? Is it just a calculator Caucasus reference mislabel?

[tk'es]

How is it possible that I have higher Caucasus than you when you are from the Caucasus and I am not? Is it just a calculator Caucasus reference mislabel?




i have the same question, i truly hope our genetic guys will answer it.. in some calculators i get pretty high non-caucasus component compared to my caucasus. I wonder if your ancestors came from caucasus?




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[gixajo]

i have the same question, i truly hope our genetic guys will answer it.. in some calculators i get pretty high non-caucasus component compared to my caucasus. I wonder if your ancestors came from caucasus?

It´s just a model, we are modeled on the basis of present references, it does not necessarily imply a real ancestry.

But...Who knows? The Caucasus was a key transit area and melting pot or influence of many ancient cultures and a key node for genetic influences, both open gate and closed wall.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.2627% / 0.07262671
66.2 EEF
17.4 WEST-EURASIAN
12.8 SOUTH-EURO
3.6 CAUCASIAN

[chinshen]

i have the same question, i truly hope our genetic guys will answer it.. in some calculators i get pretty high non-caucasus component compared to my caucasus. I wonder if your ancestors came from caucasus?

I doubt my ancestors came from the Caucasus unless it was in ancient times, but we will never know for sure.

[ScandinavianCelt]

138367

what is your known ancestry in recent times? example, results from Ancestry, etc.

this is a "very ancient" calculator, so there are a multitude of reasons why you would be scoring high Caucasus on this

also, notice the Caucasian here is Iranian Wezmeh from the Neolithic?

these groups plot closest to your score for that component:

https://i.postimg.cc/dVBYK4SZ/cauca1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/WdhKG6Vs)

[chinshen]

what is your known ancestry in recent times? example, results from Ancestry, etc.

this is a "very ancient" calculator, so there are a multitude of reasons why you would be scoring high Caucasus on this

also, notice the Caucasian here is Iranian Wezmeh from the Neolithic?

these groups plot closest to your score for that component:

https://i.postimg.cc/dVBYK4SZ/cauca1.jpg (https://postimg.cc/WdhKG6Vs)


My ancestry is Assyrian from Eastern Anatolia which is not very far distance wise from the Caucasus.
My 23&me ancestry show 99.8% Iranian/Caucasian/Mesopotamian.

[ScandinavianCelt]

My ancestry is Assyrian from Eastern Anatolia which is not very far distance wise from the Caucasus.
My 23&me ancestry show 99.8% Iranian/Caucasian/Mesopotamian.

well, there's your answer why you got that much Iranian

[Pater Patota]

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 5.8326% / 0.05832613
45.0 EEF
41.0 CAUCASIAN
11.4 WEST-EURASIAN
2.2 NATUFIAN
0.4 EAST-ASIAN

Looks like in between Anatolian Farmer and CHG.

Btw, I’m descended from Circassian, Zazas(Kurds) from Turkey and some Balkan(dunno they’re Balkan Turk or original Balkan folks).Well according to some old people in my family, there could be also Armenian or Georgians in family background.

[Kenshiro]

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 5.3382% / 0.05338243
66.0 EEF
17.2 WEST-EURASIAN
16.8 CAUCASIAN

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

Target: Ice_scaled
Distance: 4.2381% / 0.04238132
40.2 EEF
32.8 CAUCASIAN
13.2 WEST-EURASIAN
10.0 EAST-ASIAN
3.8 NATUFIAN