Who do the Greek footballers resemble more? The English ones or the Iranian ones?

[Tooting Carmen]

After all, Greeks plot genetically approximately half-way between English people and Iranians.

Greece

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[Tooting Carmen]

England

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[Oliver109]

Generally Iranian ones as both groups are more Med and yellow-brown skinned largely

[Tooting Carmen]

Iran

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[Tooting Carmen]

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[Oliver109]

A large minority of Iranians are too dark/indianish looking to pass in Greece but i would say a majority would fit in Greece at least in terms of pigmentation.

[Tooting Carmen]

A large minority of Iranians are too dark/indianish looking to pass in Greece but i would say a majority would fit in Greece at least in terms of pigmentation.

As for the Greeks themselves, beyond Cyprus, Malta, Iberia, Italy, Albania, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia, IMHO they would fit better as a more Euro-looking bunch of West Asians than even as French or Croatian.

[Oliver109]

As for the Greeks themselves, beyond Cyprus, Malta, Iberia, Italy, Albania, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia, IMHO they would fit as a more Euro-looking bunch of West Asians than even as French or Croatian.

It would be interesting to see if Spanish teams pass better in England or Iran lol

[Tooting Carmen]

It would be interesting to see if Spanish teams pass better in England or Iran lol

Well I haven't yet had the chance to post the current Spanish team, but here are the Portuguese and Basque teams:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?377909-Who-do-the-Irish-footballers-resemble-more-The-Finnish-footballers-or-the-Portuguese-footballers&p=7822031&viewfull=1#post7822031
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?378067-Who-do-the-Welsh-footballers-resemble-more-the-Danish-footballers-or-the-Basque-footballers&p=7824766&viewfull=1#post7824766

[Tooting Carmen]

Any more votes and suggestions?

[Avicenna]

Iranian imo

[Tooting Carmen]

Iranian imo

Even taking into account the ones who look wholesale South Asian or possibly Arabian?

[Avicenna]

Even taking into account the ones who look wholesale South Asian or possibly Arabian?

Yep, just like among the English types there are ones that look exclusively Northwest European / Northern European, except the latter is more pronounced among the English.

[Zeno]

None, equidistant.

[Kess]

None, equidistant.

Agree

[Babak]

A large minority of Iranians are too dark/indianish looking to pass in Greece but i would say a majority would fit in Greece at least in terms of pigmentation.

I disagree. Iranians are dark washed on all anthroforums and are always made out to be some south asian group. The reality is, Iranians are fair to olive skinned depending on the region.

As for greeks, they are equidistant to Iranians and brits.

[Tooting Carmen]

I disagree. Iranians are dark washed on all anthroforums and are always made out to be some south asian group. The reality is, Iranians are fair to olive skinned depending on the region.

Don't Southern Iranians have considerable overlap with at least some Pakistanis?

[Avicenna]

Don't Southern Iranians have considerable overlap with at least some Pakistanis?

That's mainly balochis, who are actually more like a mixture between Pakistani and Iranian.

[Tooting Carmen]

That's mainly balochis, who are actually more like a mixture between Pakistani and Iranian.

Sure, but the point is they look pretty similar on both sides of the border.

[Odelia]

None in equal measure, but I'll give the edge to Iranians

[Babak]

Don't Southern Iranians have considerable overlap with at least some Pakistanis?

Fars Iranians? No

[Oghuz]

Don't Southern Iranians have considerable overlap with at least some Pakistanis?

Stupid post

https://cdn.britannica.com/82/72782-004-0D1724AD/Population-density-Iran.jpg

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6ce5f68db2d5b65e88d3142d17e703f3-pjlq

[Laredo]

Greeks are European, stop this none sense.

[Ketchup]

After all, Greeks plot genetically approximately half-way between English people and Iranians.

Greece

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Iran way more than UK/Ireland/France/Germany etc wow this is actually a little interesting.

[Regnera]

Both in equal measure.

[thisismyaccount]

1, 2, 3, 4, 9(looks central euro), 10, 17, 21, 22 (looks kind of west asian but also bosnian), 23, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 33

Those are the ones that passes as europeans. The other half passes as iranians.

Equal passing for both

[Tooting Carmen]

1, 2, 3, 4, 9(looks central euro), 10, 17, 21, 22 (looks kind of west asian but also bosnian), 23, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 33

Those are the ones that passes as europeans. The other half passes as iranians.

Equal passing for both

Greeks are European though. I suppose you mean "pass in Europe beyond Serbia and Central Italy" or something, don't you?

[Tooting Carmen]

Iran way more than UK/Ireland/France/Germany etc wow this is actually a little interesting.

In France's case, the Greeks would surely pass at least equally well if not more so in Southern France as they would anywhere in Iran, wouldn't they?

[thisismyaccount]

Greeks are European though. I suppose you mean "pass in Europe beyond Serbia and Central Italy" or something, don't you?

Yeah. Like Bosnia, Germany, England.

But it'll be almost the same if I just counted English.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah. Like Bosnia, Germany, England.

But it'll be almost the same if I just counted English.

The first is quite different to the other two, though they have a lot of Central European types admittedly too.

[Tooting Carmen]

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