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Norrsken
11-06-2023, 09:02 AM
Paris to Kursk, about the same in north to south geographically


Russian_Kursk,0.1308964,0.1157701,0.0710872,0.0648 019,0.0341601,0.023113,0.0103991,0.0121438,-0.0032469,-0.0255587,-0.0018066,-0.0080179,0.0183225,0.0206778,-0.0127748,0.0012101,0.0016136,-0.0008869,0.0023096,0.0012817,-0.002558,-0.0040188,0.0051146,-0.0058141,-0.0017214
French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313,0.02399 01,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544,0.01160 22,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051

Target: Norrsken_scaled
Distance: 3.5324% / 0.03532368
59.8 Russian_Kursk
40.2 French_Paris

Distance to: Norrsken_scaled
0.05138026 Russian_Kursk
0.06579446 French_Paris

Beowulf
11-06-2023, 09:21 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/CLtv4kwv/Screenshot-2023-11-06-13-38-39.png (https://postimages.org/)

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0280% / 0.02798568
100.0 French_Paris

Katarzyna
11-06-2023, 09:23 AM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 2.0154% / 0.02015423
89.2 Russian_Kursk
10.8 French_Paris


Slav, Slav Slav <3

majevica
11-06-2023, 09:26 AM
Distance to: majevica_scaled
0.05804068 French_Paris
0.06753990 Russian_Kursk

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 4.2071% / 0.04207148
57.0 French_Paris
43.0 Russian_Kursk

cass
11-06-2023, 09:27 AM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.3975% / 0.01397525
65.8 Russian_Kursk
34.2 French_Paris

Similar samples

Target: German_West_Prussia
Distance: 2.3763% / 0.02376288
66.2 Russian_Kursk
33.8 French_Paris

Target: German_Farther_Pomerania
Distance: 2.7208% / 0.02720821
64.8 Russian_Kursk
35.2 French_Paris

Albannach
11-06-2023, 09:29 AM
Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 4.1948% / 0.04194789
73.0 French_Paris
27.0 Russian_Kursk

Dušan
11-06-2023, 09:33 AM
Distance to: Dušan_scaled
0.06546972 French_Paris
0.06737574 Russian_Kursk


Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 4.7509% / 0.04750946
51.4 French_Paris
48.6 Russian_Kursk

Far_away
11-06-2023, 09:44 AM
Distance: 5.3152% / 0.05315169
73.8 French_Paris
26.2 Russian_Kursk

Peterski
11-06-2023, 09:53 AM
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Cass do you have real G25 coordinates or are these just simulated from K36 coordinates?

I suggest that you should buy real coordinates if you don't have them already (it costs $12):

https://bga101.blogspot.com/2021/08/genetic-ancestry-online-store.html

ScandinavianCelt
11-06-2023, 10:07 AM
Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 3.2401% / 0.03240091

65.0 French_Paris
35.0 Russian_Kursk

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It's an interesting calculator idea, thanks for posting.

FWIW, I tried to make it more specific for me by adding sample groups from each area that I often get in results to try out here from both East and West. When I do that the results end up 75%-100% western as distance is added. I included Icelandic, Irish, French-Brittany, and Spain-Galicia for West and Finland, Estonia, Moldova, and Russia-Smolensk for East.

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.6009% / 0.01600862 | ADC: 2x RC
40.6 Irish
30.6 Icelandic
28.8 French_Brittany

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.6009% / 0.01600862 | ADC: 1x RC
40.6 Irish
30.6 Icelandic
28.8 French_Brittany

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.7462% / 0.00746223 | ADC: 0.5x RC
71.0 Irish
13.2 Moldovan_o
10.4 Moldovan
5.4 Icelandic

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.7033% / 0.00703257 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.8 Irish
12.8 Moldovan_o
12.0 Moldovan
1.4 Icelandic


Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 0.6731% / 0.00673075
72.8 Irish
14.4 Moldovan
9.8 Moldovan_o
2.8 Finland
0.2 French_Brittany

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If I make it "continental" and take off Irish and Icelandic and add Catalon and Basque samples to replace them:

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.2702% / 0.02270242 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 French_Brittany

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.7495% / 0.01749525 | ADC: 1x RC
80.4 French_Brittany
19.6 Moldovan_o

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.4256% / 0.01425641 | ADC: 0.5x RC
78.6 French_Brittany
12.4 Moldovan_o
9.0 Finland

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369112 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.6 French_Brittany
11.6 Moldovan_o
8.0 Finland
3.8 Estonian

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.3689% / 0.01368866
76.4 French_Brittany
11.6 Moldovan_o
8.0 Finland
3.8 Estonian
0.2 Moldovan

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If I add ONLY Brittany and Smolensk, to make it more specific to me:


Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.9953% / 0.02995299 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 French_Brittany:French23833

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.5161% / 0.02516112 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.2 French_Brittany:French23833
23.8 French_Paris
12.6 Russian_Kursk
6.4 Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-103

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.5161% / 0.02516112 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.2 French_Brittany:French23833
23.8 French_Paris
12.6 Russian_Kursk
6.4 Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-103

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.5161% / 0.02516112
57.2 French_Brittany:French23833
23.8 French_Paris
12.6 Russian_Kursk
6.4 Russian_Smolensk:Rsm-103

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Conclusion: prob ~80-20%, W-E, for me.

Gallop
11-06-2023, 11:07 AM
100.0 French_Paris


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.05056169 French_Paris
0.12315729 Russian_Kursk

Distance to: Father_scaled
0.05259304 French_Paris
0.11960767 Russian_Kursk

Distance to: brother_scaled
0.05755531 French_Paris
0.12620626 Russian_Kursk

gixajo
11-06-2023, 11:10 AM
https://i.imgur.com/2yYV5tL.png

cass
11-06-2023, 11:51 AM
Cass do you have real G25 coordinates or are these just simulated from K36 coordinates?

I suggest that you should buy real coordinates if you don't have them already (it costs $12):

https://bga101.blogspot.com/2021/08/genetic-ancestry-online-store.html


I have MH via www.dnagenics.com

I'm planning another test as well.

Peterski
11-06-2023, 12:04 PM
I have MH via www.dnagenics.com (http://www.dnagenics.com)

I'm planning another test as well.

These are simulated coordinates, not real. To obtain real G25 coordinates you need to order them directly from Davidski.

Petalpusher
11-06-2023, 01:39 PM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 3.4188% / 0.03418754
93.4 French_Paris
6.6 Russian_Kursk

Distance to: Petalpusher
0.03474664 French_Paris
0.09311432 Russian_Kursk

celticdragongod
11-06-2023, 02:09 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.04258030 French_Paris
0.07564793 Russian_Kursk

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 3.4212% / 0.03421194
72.6 French_Paris
27.4 Russian_Kursk

Karol Klačansky
11-07-2023, 08:43 AM
my results
Distance to: Karol_scaled
0.04875726 Russian_Kursk
0.06271316 French_Paris

Target: Karol_scaled
Distance: 3.0512% / 0.03051227
59.0 Russian_Kursk
41.0 French_Paris

Father

Distance to: KarolSiskaFather_scaled
0.03921142 Russian_Kursk
0.06641937 French_Paris

Target: KarolSiskaFather_scaled
Distance: 2.4103% / 0.02410348
66.6 Russian_Kursk
33.4 French_Paris

Kiel
11-07-2023, 08:46 AM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 2.0057% / 0.02005735
72.6 French_Paris
27.4 Russian_Kursk

Ugo
11-07-2023, 08:56 AM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 2.0154% / 0.02015423
89.2 Russian_Kursk
10.8 French_Paris


Slav, Slav Slav <3
Target: Vjatych_scaled
Distance: 2.0263% / 0.02026306
100.0 Russian_Kursk

Grace O'Malley
11-07-2023, 09:34 AM
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.04761548 French_Paris
0.07757584 Russian_Kursk

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.9756% / 0.03975570
71.8 French_Paris
28.2 Russian_Kursk

Kiel
11-07-2023, 09:39 AM
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.04761548 French_Paris
0.07757584 Russian_Kursk

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.9756% / 0.03975570
71.8 French_Paris
28.2 Russian_Kursk

Almost the same results :eek:

Grace O'Malley
11-07-2023, 09:58 AM
Almost the same results :eek:

Your distance is closer though. :)

Norrsken
11-07-2023, 10:12 AM
Almost the same results :eek:

How much german are you? i expected your french and russian to be opposite :P

Grace O'Malley
11-07-2023, 10:28 AM
How much german are you? i expected your french and russian to be opposite :P

East German would be closer to Russia but West Germans closer to France. On 23&Me for example they lump France and Germany together.

See these below.

Target: German_Erlangen
Distance: 0.8705% / 0.00870535
65.0 French_Paris
35.0 Russian_Kursk

Target: German
Distance: 1.0186% / 0.01018587
69.8 French_Paris
30.2 Russian_Kursk

I thought East Germans would be closer to Russia but they are about 50/50.

Target: German_East
Distance: 1.6753% / 0.01675296
51.0 Russian_Kursk
49.0 French_Paris

Kiel
11-07-2023, 10:48 AM
How much german are you? i expected your french and russian to be opposite :P

3/4

I actually found some french like surnames on my tree.

Norrsken
11-07-2023, 11:06 AM
3/4

I actually found some french like surnames on my tree.

Ah ok :D

Toxin
11-07-2023, 11:46 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/2yw3tLzZ/1.png

noricum
11-07-2023, 04:47 PM
My finest hour on this board.

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.7677% / 0.02767713
52.2 French_Paris
47.8 Russian_Kursk

mariusz99
11-07-2023, 05:03 PM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 2.1036% / 0.02103630
83.6 Russian_Kursk
16.4 French_Paris

Boudin
11-07-2023, 07:04 PM
Target: Boudin
Distance: 3.6265% / 0.03626480
97.6 French_Paris
2.4 Russian_Kursk

hazmatnik
11-07-2023, 08:34 PM
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 5.6087% / 0.05608712
60.0 French_Paris
40.0 Russian_Kursk

Ritz06
11-07-2023, 09:31 PM
Target:
Distance: 7.6809% / 0.07680946
81.8 French_Paris
18.2 Russian_Kursk

Damiăo de Góis
11-07-2023, 10:17 PM
Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.05011580 French_Paris
0.12021820 Russian_Kursk

Danjojo
11-07-2023, 10:22 PM
Target: Danjojo
Distance: 0.6306% / 0.00630611
51.6 French_Paris
48.4 Russian_Kursk

Distance to: Danjojo
0.04538281 French_Paris
0.04829083 Russian_Kursk