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What do you think about that ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_chess_players
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Armenian_chess_players
LOL
Melkiirs
11-22-2023, 06:04 PM
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What do you think about that ?
Do you think your Sicilian side is less intelligent than your Polish side?
Hektor12
11-22-2023, 06:08 PM
Real map= https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/West-Asian-admixture.gif
What are you trying to prove? We Europeans wuz smarter than East Asians. Is that it?
thatoneton
11-22-2023, 06:23 PM
Do you think your Sicilian side is less intelligent than your Polish side?
This is of course possible. Guess it depends on the background etc.
Estonians have the best PISA score of Europe, they are even at the same level as japaneses and koreans so, who knows ?
sarmsaksogan
11-22-2023, 06:50 PM
Another Apricity thread full of 100% ignorance
Real map= https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/West-Asian-admixture.gif
This one looks like caucasus admixture
Melkiirs
11-22-2023, 07:00 PM
This is of course possible. Guess it depends on the background etc.
I‘m just curious because the OP has both Sicilian and Polish ancestry.
Estonians have the best PISA score of Europe, they are even at the same level as japaneses and koreans so, who knows ?
No, they are not on the same level in IQ scores.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
No, they are not on the same level in IQ scores.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
Dude, in this map spanishes litteraly have arab iq, and romanians have us black iq
No, they are not on the same level in IQ scores.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
You have trouble reading actually.
https://i.ibb.co/c821xyG/0pisa.jpg (https://ibb.co/HPGVXKW)
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/pisa-scores-by-country
You have trouble reading actually.
https://i.ibb.co/c821xyG/0pisa.jpg (https://ibb.co/HPGVXKW)
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/pisa-scores-by-country
No, they are not on the same level in IQ scores.
No, it is vice versa
Dude, in this map spanishes litteraly have arab iq, and romanians have us black iq
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country/
I can show you many maps representing similar scores like this one.
No, they are not on the same level in IQ scores.
No, it is vice versa
Do you know what PISA is? :bored:
Do you know what PISA is? :bored:
PISA =/= IQ
Hektor12
11-22-2023, 07:32 PM
This one looks like caucasus admixture
If you want to post correct maps, post Caucasus and E-V13 maps.
If you want to post correct maps, post Caucasus and E-V13 maps.
North and central italy which is mostly caucasus admxiture have same results at PISA score as france, germany, england... so i don't think that
PlattitüdenPaule
11-22-2023, 07:53 PM
No, they are not on the same level in IQ scores.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
How on earth did Nepal manage to score the lowest of all listed countries?
How on earth did Nepal manage to score the lowest of all listed countries?
I don't know really. I think there is a mistake in the map in that part. 42 IQ seems unreal.
Abaddon
11-22-2023, 08:05 PM
We Europeans
Ethnicity: Turkish
Ancestry: Turkish, Karachay-Balkar, and alleged Balkan and Circassian roots.
LOL
Abaddon
11-22-2023, 08:08 PM
Well, if sicilian-polish euromongrels are pretty much intelligent creatures, i guess the OP is a outlier (in the sense of having much lower than average IQ).
:rotfl:
#Oda#
11-22-2023, 08:09 PM
Estonians have the best PISA score of Europe, they are even at the same level as japaneses and koreans so, who knows ?
Depends much on schools as well.
Ethnicity: Turkish
Ancestry: Turkish, Karachay-Balkar, and alleged Balkan and Circassian roots.
LOL
If you interpreted "we" in that statement as including me, you might want to consider enrolling in an English course.
Depends much on schools as well.
PISA stands for the Programme for International Student Assessment. It's an international assessment that measures 15-year-old students' reading, mathematics, and science literacy every three years. The goal is to evaluate and compare education systems worldwide.
In short, PISA has nothing to do with IQ.
Abaddon
11-22-2023, 08:12 PM
If you interpreted "we" in that statement as including me, you might want to consider enrolling in an English course.
Makes much more sense if you just remove the "We".
However, this is kinda off-topic, the problem here is the OP.
Makes much more sense if you just remove the "We".
However, this is kinda off-topic, the problem here is the OP.
"We" in that sentence includes OP and Europeans. It's your fault that you cannot make this out.
majevica
11-22-2023, 08:39 PM
If you want to post correct maps, post Caucasus and E-V13 maps.
Hi Hektor12, majevica here.
I'm E-V13 and so is Loki. Are you saying we're stupid?
Depends much on schools as well.
Outcomes depend on the teaching system and students' ability. The advantage is that the study is conducted on a large scale and the results are standardized.
https://i.ibb.co/wg7PbnJ/0cas.jpg (https://ibb.co/JtqGbYx)
Melkiirs
11-22-2023, 09:03 PM
How on earth did Nepal manage to score the lowest of all listed countries?
I don't know really. I think there is a mistake in the map in that part. 42 IQ seems unreal.
It‘s real from Richard Lynn & David Becker (2019) The Intelligence of Nations. The data came from only a few municipalities. They were likely all rural people and some may have had vitamin deficiencies. The limited data might not be representative even if it is fairly consistent.
„ A study from Buckley et al. (2013, Table 2) measured a CPM- raw score of Nepalese Mothers of 17.78. No age for mothers was given. The testing of mothers took place 1994 to 1997 during early pregnancy. CIA (2017, Index: Mother's mean age at first birth) gives a mean age of mothers at first birth in Nepal of 20.80y, which was used by us at the mean age of the sample. The given raw score is equivalent to -1.39 on the APM-scale, which is at the 0.05th GBR- P and equivalent to an uncor. IQ of 47.72, corrected by -0.84 for FE to 46.88. Only the sample with Vitamin-A supplementation was used by us while the placebo sample was excluded due to lower test scores. However, the prevalence of Vitamin-A deficiency in this sample might cause an underestimation of IQ.
Four samples from the rural Sarlahi District consisting of mothers with different nutritional supplementation and a control were tested on SPM by Christian et al. (2010, Tab.1). The samples had mean ages of 31.60y, 32.00y, 31.20y and 32.00y. The raw scores obtained by these samples were similar to each other and therefore, all four samples were used by us. The first sample scored on SPM 15.90 the second 15.70, the third sample 16.60 and the fourth sample 13.45. Converted to the APM-scale, these scores are equivalent to -2.23, -2.33, -1.85 and -3.61, and were all below the 0.01st GBR-P. Uncor. IQs are 42.70, 42.26, 44.23 and 41.84. All had to be reduced by 3.36 for FE-correction to cor. IQs of 40.87, 39.34, 38.90 and 40.87.
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Raven’s-raw scores for heads of households from the districts of Bara and Rautahat were presented by Jamison and Lockheed (1985, Table 4). The full sample includes heads of households from villages with and without schools, but no differences in intelligence between both sub-samples were detected. The full sample had a mean age of 41.71y and scored 13.45. The source reported a maximum score of 36. No information about the specific used Raven’s test was given but a source from the same first author reported an intelligence measurement on a similar population from the same country, named the CPM (Jamison and Moock, 1984). The score of 13.45 would be 13.14 on the SPM and -3.61 on the APM, far below the 0.01st GBR-P and equivalent to an uncor. IQ of 36.55, to which 2.94 had to be added for FE-correction to 39.49.
Three rural samples were separated by Jamison and Moock (1984, Table 2) according the kind of crops they grow. No significant differences in CPM-raw scores were reported. The three samples obtained raw scores of 12.98, 13.45 and 13.12, converted to -3.89, -3.61 and -3.80 on the APM-scale. These scored are also far below the 0.01st GBR-P and equivalent to uncor. IQs of 40.67, 48.26 and 41.02. Adding 2.94 to these scores for FE-correction resulted in cor. IQs of 43.61, 51.20 and 43.96.
All these samples scored extremely low, both in terms of global relations and to the geographical neighbourhood. At first there was a suspicion that not all sets of Raven’s Matrices were used, but this was not stated in the sources. Indeed, Jamison and Moock (1984, Table 2) reported a range of scores which corresponded to the full CPM and these gave results which are not much different to the results from the other measurements in Nepal. Eventually, the rural origin of all samples may explain the results but an urban sample for comparison was not available.
The unweighted national IQ of Nepal is 42.79, which is very implausible, but the standard deviation across the different studies is only 4.10. The score also remained stable after weightings at 42.99. Data to calculate a SAS-IQ were not available, thus we can neither obtain confirmation nor rejection of the psychometric IQ. Even if all used samples are from rural areas we would expect a
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national IQ for Nepal not so far below the national IQ of its neighbourhood country India (76.24).“
https://www.ulsterinstitute.org/ebook/THE%20INTELLIGENCE%20OF%20NATIONS%20-%20Richard%20Lynn,%20David%20Becker.pdf
Boudin
11-22-2023, 10:37 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_chess_players
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Armenian_chess_players
LOL
Chess is a bad example, it's more a test of memory and practice than IQ.
Melkiirs
11-22-2023, 10:46 PM
Chess is a bad example, it's more a test of memory and practice than IQ.
Nigeria is the top preforming country at English Scrabble and their average IQ is near 70. National performance at a given mind sport does not mean higher IQ. It is more indicative of national popularity and status than talent.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/08/27/491470531/and-the-no-1-scrabble-nation-in-the-world-is
Do you think your Sicilian side is less intelligent than your Polish side?
There is no reason for that. But if you are talking about ethnicity sure, sicilians are probably the dumbest people in Europe due to their admixture, and fortunately for me, polishes the most clever.
Nigeria is the top preforming country at English Scrabble and their average IQ is near 70. National performance at a given mind sport does not mean higher IQ. It is more indicative of national popularity and status than talent.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/08/27/491470531/and-the-no-1-scrabble-nation-in-the-world-is
In USA, blacks are known to have 85 and whites 100.
US blacks have 1/4 of white DNA and 3/4 pure black.
So if we calculate we find that pure blacks should have an iq of 80 ((80+80+80+100)/4 = 85)
For me anything that is below 80iq is not really possible, blacks having the lowest iq known in the earth
In USA, blacks are known to have 85 and whites 100.
US blacks have 1/4 of white DNA and 3/4 pure black.
1/4? %10 Max.
Norrsken
11-23-2023, 11:52 AM
1/4? %10 Max.
No, only some places have that low white dna some are almost half black by default, afaik snoop is like 65% african
Chess is a bad example, it's more a test of memory and practice than IQ.
Many folks consider Chess to be a litmus test for human intelligence, but the truth is, it's a game you can learn to play better.
catgeorge
11-23-2023, 12:32 PM
Redneck science - I dont know of any Estonian scholars that impacted western society.
These tests are subjective and intelligence comes in many forms - this is only form and it's called mathematical - but real intelligence for humans is spacial intelligence (architects and engineers) the mathematical is accountant and science.
I am hoping young people open their eyes because this is a load of BS.
Redneck science - I dont know of any Estonian scholars that impacted western society.
These tests are subjective and intelligence comes in many forms - this is only form and it's called mathematical - but real intelligence for humans is spacial intelligence (architects and engineers) the mathematical is accountant and science.
I am hoping young people open their eyes because this is a load of BS.
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Hektor12
11-23-2023, 02:14 PM
Hi Hektor12, majevica here.
I'm E-V13 and so is Loki. Are you saying we're stupid?
Hi, E-V13 this is Hektor.
No, im not saying that youre or somebody else is stupid. Only thing i mean is that i see a correlation when i look at IQ maps and Caucasus, E-V13 maps.
Although theyre important factors, they arent sole reason of IQ. Because all people living in these regions also have different component. For example, i probably have higher Caucasus component than most of europeans but i also have high east asian component which compensates and elevates my IQ. You also have ANE which compensates but in your case i think elevating less, because you have problems with understanding such simple post and even call the boss for that.
Boudin
11-23-2023, 02:56 PM
The purpose of this meta-analysis was to estimate the relationship between cognitive ability and chess skill. Results revealed that chess skill correlates significantly and positively with four broad cognitive abilities (Gf, Gc, Gsm, and Gs). Effect sizes were small-to-medium in magnitude; variance in chess skill explained by cognitive ability was similar in magnitude for Gf (6%), Gsm (6%), Gs (6%), and Gc (5%), with an average of 6%. Full-scale IQ explained < 1% of the variance in chess skill. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289616301593?via%3Dihub)
Chess is a bad example, it's more a test of memory and practice than IQ.
LOL
And quite by accident, they the used to dominate international trade from Europe to India. (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/article/armenians-jews-and-humanitarianism-in-the-age-of-questions-18301900/05819D3665858F547BE0DDF5975EA311)
There is an oft-quoted Oriental adage about it taking three Greeks to get the better of a Jew, but three Jews to get the better of an Armenian.
lockdownboredom
11-24-2023, 11:10 PM
Sumerians, founders of civilization would like to have a word with you.
Katarzyna
11-24-2023, 11:21 PM
Today I had dinner with E-V13 and J2.
Greetings from them
https://ibb.co/31DgfGX
Voskos
11-25-2023, 06:50 PM
Trolling mode on.
nothing to do with race.Women select the men with the hugest shlong and heaviest wallet. This gets labelled by nerd scientists as natural selection. IQ decreases in favor of dick size.
Trolling mode off.
Trolling mode on.
nothing to do with race.Women select the men with the hugest shlong and heaviest wallet. This gets labelled by nerd scientists as natural selection. IQ decreases in favor of dick size.
Trolling mode off.
It's the truth actually.
Voskos
11-25-2023, 07:11 PM
It's the truth actually.
Evet.World's been running on estrogen since ever.
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