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Gallop

12-06-2023, 01:15 PM

It's not a calculator of mine, but they say it's the sum of the coordinates for Spaniards.

You'll have to try it!

Sumun Calculator AGGREGATE NO

Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average,0.1172558,0.1458 13,0.0405135,0.0001782,0.0443647,-0.0019279,-0.0027678,0.0015301,0.0235551,0.0331352,-0.0045689,0.0078995,-0.0147718,-0.0130905,0.0093082,0.0023725,-0.0011599,-0.0000738,-0.0020531,-0.0022501,0.0051279,-0.0004588,-0.0042143,-0.0030057,0.0019179
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile,0.1204476,0.147553,0.0462 4,0.0007903,0.0479627,-0.0047124,-0.0015361,0.001114,0.0241024,0.0365571,-0.0060885,0.0086073,-0.0174492,-0.0159275,0.0097704,0.0061345,0.0017224,-0.0008717,-0.0027476,-0.0018968,0.0057419,0.0007616,-0.0034344,-0.0046155,-0.0004871
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese,0.1078472,0.1460268,0.0387194,-0.0015314,0.0454226,-0.0035093,-0.0037332,0.0032994,0.0259494,0.0307372,-0.0022572,0.0070634,-0.013733,-0.0111896,0.0111111,-0.0049559,-0.0078025,-0.0012146,-0.0051503,-0.0012208,0.0030511,-0.0032518,-0.0009345,-0.0023375,0.0017584
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese,0.1074692,0.1455366,0.0385358,-0.0030412,0.0416706,-0.0020712,-0.0045992,0.0025914,0.0251558,0.0298848,-0.0014316,0.006579,-0.0126743,-0.0117099,0.0118504,0.0000958,-0.0026846,-0.0015238,-0.0054019,-0.0006264,0.0010056,-0.0027355,0.0002468,-0.0024072,0.0005992
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon,0.1195142,0.14649,0.041389 ,-0.000323,0.0468548,-0.0001395,-0.0005287,0.002942,0.0249008,0.036903,-0.0021518,0.0103035,-0.0176535,-0.0128335,0.0127578,-0.0027845,-0.0047592,-0.0007918,-0.0022312,0.0010005,0.0034625,9.28e-05,-0.0011708,-0.0010545,-0.0002395
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra,0.1238776,0.1489443,0.0502826,0.0036606,0. 0504195,0.0006045,-0.0014884,0.0007308,0.0263494,0.039272,-0.00544,0.0104157,-0.0181614,-0.0145424,0.017033,0.0001768,-0.0105395,0.0019845,-0.0001256,-0.0045647,0.0061973,0.0000616,-0.0067374,-0.0033538,0.0042112
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares,0.1186755, 0.1470692,0.0405504,-0.0004159,0.0424357,-0.0011994,-0.0002034,0.0022884,0.020447,0.0297572,-0.0023632,0.0076816,-0.0146592,-0.0108912,0.0069175,0.0010292,-0.0007364,0.0002438,-0.0006254,-0.0019615,0.0027812,0.0005402,-0.0011606,-0.002123,-0.0014366

cass

12-06-2023, 04:27 PM

Target: cass
Distance: 9.0048% / 0.09004778
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

;)
https://vidanomada.com/wp-content/2008/02/polaco-catalan1.JPG

Gallop

12-06-2023, 04:34 PM

Target: cass
Distance: 9.0048% / 0.09004778
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

;)
https://vidanomada.com/wp-content/2008/02/polaco-catalan1.JPG
Calling the Catalans Poles was in allusion to the fact that the pro-independence Catalans say that they are not Spanish, so it was like saying to them: Yes, you are French, English, Poles, not Spanish.

And the Polish thing was more because it caused even more strangeness, since France and England feel closer and have visited us more. That's just what it was all about. In absolute, the rest of Spaniards see the Catalans as Poles. We did it with fun!

AGGREGATE NO?

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.4741% / 0.02474082
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

Target: cass
Distance: 9.0048% / 0.09004778
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

;)

Where are the Spaniards and supporters?

Eurafricanid

12-06-2023, 04:59 PM

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.1166% / 0.02116621
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

Everybody's catalan now :thumb001:

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU

0.02116621
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

0.02323922
Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average

0.02766464
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

0.02856368
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon

0.02888379
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

0.02949682
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

0.03765551
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

</tbody>

Beowulf

12-06-2023, 05:01 PM

Father:

Target: Papa_Scaled
Distance: 0.0160% / 0.01603847
81.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
10.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
8.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

Gallop

12-06-2023, 05:01 PM

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.1166% / 0.02116621
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

Everybody's catalan now :thumb001:

No, mine is only with the Catalan fountain to see that it was closer than the Polish one, I'm waiting for more diners to make it complete. As a host, I prefer to do it later.

Boudin

12-06-2023, 05:12 PM

Target: Boudin
Distance: 4.8636% / 0.04863622
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

<tbody>
Distance to:
Boudin

0.04863622
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

0.05128127
Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average

0.05169683
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

0.05371248
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon

0.05753964
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

0.05860999
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

0.06112935
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

</tbody>

Eurafricanid

12-06-2023, 05:12 PM

No, mine is only with the Catalan fountain to see that it was closer than the Polish one, I'm waiting for more diners to make it complete. As a host, I prefer to do it later.

Makes sense.

ScandinavianCelt

12-06-2023, 05:32 PM

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 7.6433% / 0.07643323

84.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
15.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Damião de Góis

12-06-2023, 08:48 PM

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.02269364 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.02504814 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.03024342 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.03077640 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.03384714 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.03854655 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.04021776 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2694% / 0.02269364
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

gixajo

12-06-2023, 09:01 PM

Iberomutt family.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6004% / 0.01600363
56.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
19.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
12.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
8.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
3.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1105% / 0.02110465
62.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
27.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
6.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
4.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.6876% / 0.01687569
82.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
17.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 1.4429% / 0.01442885
67.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
32.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

celticdragongod

12-06-2023, 11:22 PM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.07621778 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.07707907 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
0.07821524 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.07921257 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.08103009 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.08211685 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.08231383 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 7.5512% / 0.07551159
100.0 Spaniard

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 7.5512% / 0.07551159
60.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
40.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Gaditanian

12-07-2023, 11:50 AM

Target: Gaditanian

Distance: 2.4247% / 0.02424658
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Distance to: Gaditanian
0.02424658 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.02676115 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.03384385 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.03437710 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.03681624 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.04185717 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.04914843 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Laredo

12-07-2023, 01:08 PM

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o7K1QrNxcCg7.jpg?o=1

Beowulf

12-07-2023, 01:30 PM

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o7K1QrNxcCg7.jpg?o=1

You're using Unscaled coordinates again with Scaled samples

I wouldn't use the distance Mode with mixed people either is also quite useless.

Eurafricanid

12-07-2023, 06:17 PM

It seems that Catalans are the closest to Northern Europeans.

Gallop

12-08-2023, 10:41 AM

It seems that Catalans are the closest to Northern Europeans.

It's not significant, they're much closer to the rest of the Spaniards.

Gallop

12-08-2023, 10:54 AM

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.1031% / 0.02103087
54.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
24.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
20.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4985% / 0.02498473
80.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
20.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 2.2277% / 0.02227659
62.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
27.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
9.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.02192163 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.02285304 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.02527435 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares (los polacos xd vamos lejísimos ja!)
0.02528385 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.02553041 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.02732619 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.03434328 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Entonces y supuestamente si todo esto fuese medianamente real habría cogido Astur-Leonés por vía materna. Mi hermano el pobre de Castilla no quiso coger tanto, por eso chocamos tanto, tal vez, no sé, somos como la noche y el día.

Se puede hablar de una gran homogenéidad entre españoles como población y esa es la rabia que tienen algunos que habrían deseado otra cosa para España.

Sé que algunos soñaban con un 20% de NA berebere para los andaluces, pues toma morcilla!

Laredo

12-08-2023, 12:46 PM

It seems that Catalans are the closest to Northern Europeans.

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.1031% / 0.02103087
54.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
24.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
20.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4985% / 0.02498473
80.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
20.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 2.2277% / 0.02227659
62.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
27.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
9.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.02192163 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.02285304 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.02527435 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares (los polacos xd vamos lejísimos ja!)
0.02528385 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.02553041 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.02732619 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.03434328 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Entonces y supuestamente si todo esto fuese medianamente real habría cogido Astur-Leonés por vía materna. Mi hermano el pobre de Castilla no quiso coger tanto, por eso chocamos tanto, tal vez, no sé, somos como la noche y el día.

Se puede hablar de una gran homogenéidad entre españoles como población y esa es la rabia que tienen algunos que habrían deseado otra cosa para España.

Sé que algunos soñaban con un 20% de NA berebere para los andaluces, pues toma morcilla!

It's so weird that despite being mestizo my Spanish part seems far from Castilian. Focusing the history of Jalisco it was common back then for Northern Spanish settlement specially Basques or Navarreses etc

Laredo

12-08-2023, 12:47 PM

My bad Eurafricanid I meant to quote @Beowulf.

Laredo

12-08-2023, 12:52 PM

You're using Unscaled coordinates again with Scaled samples

I wouldn't use the distance Mode with mixed people either is also quite useless.

Fixed now, well it's still interesting to me.

Distance to: Laredo_scaled
0.26802035 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.26982222 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.27075346 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.27227255 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.27412015 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.27421598 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.27637109 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Gallop

12-08-2023, 01:49 PM

It's so weird that despite being mestizo my Spanish part seems far from Castilian. Focusing the history of Jalisco it was common back then for Northern Spanish settlement specially Basques or Navarreses etc

Jalisco, Aguscalientes y alguno más me lo ha dado Ancestry como poblaciones comunes, probablemente a falta de una base de datos de España, pero yo qué sé, quizá se escribían muchas cosas inexactas en la antigüedad y cuando escribieron "especialmente bascos y Navarros" obviaron a otros por simplemente resaltar a los que menos eran. El comadreo es muy dañino para cualquier tema.

Eurafricanid

12-08-2023, 03:03 PM

Fixed now, well it's still interesting to me.

Distance to: Laredo_scaled
0.26802035 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.26982222 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.27075346 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.27227255 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.27412015 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.27421598 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.27637109 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

You should do it like this :thumb001:

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.0588% / 0.01058809
50.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
47.2 Western_African
2.8 South_Amerindian

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.1166% / 0.02116621
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

Everybody's catalan now :thumb001:

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU

0.02116621
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

0.02323922
Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average

0.02766464
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

0.02856368
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon

0.02888379
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

0.02949682
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

0.03765551
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

</tbody>

Not like this:

Distance to: Eurafricanid_scaled
0.34974970 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.35072976 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.35945405 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.36058499 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.36258090 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.36376911 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.36837043 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
0.39470046 Western_African
0.67011179 South_Amerindian

Eurafricanid

12-08-2023, 03:10 PM

It's not significant, they're much closer to the rest of the Spaniards.

It's obvious that iberian populations are going to be closer to each other than to everyone else, which has nothing to do with what I said.

Laredo

12-08-2023, 03:13 PM

You should do it like this :thumb001:

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.0588% / 0.01058809
50.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
47.2 Western_African
2.8 South_Amerindian

Not like this:

Distance to: Eurafricanid_scaled
0.34974970 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.35072976 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.35945405 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.36058499 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.36258090 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.36376911 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.36837043 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
0.39470046 Western_African
0.67011179 South_Amerindian

Gotcha! how you add the amerindian samples and ssa? or where I supposed to click.

Eurafricanid

12-08-2023, 03:19 PM

Gotcha! how you add the amerindian samples and ssa? or where I supposed to click.

Just add them the same way you added the spanish ones, you can pick the samples here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wZr-UOve0KUKo_Qbgeo27m-CQncZWb8y/view).
I did an average of the samples that were closest to me of the african and amerindian ones there, but you can just pick random ones, too! Since you're mexican, I recommend Mixe, for Amerindian and Umbundu for African, but you chose.

Mixe,0.0578222,-0.3207042,0.1230168,0.0943806,-0.1073434,-0.015562,-0.2782054,-0.3340476,-0.012026,-0.0146882,-0.0071126,-0.0065642,0.0044598,0.0202028,-0.0087946,0.004004,0.006102,0.0004564,-0.0004526,-0.0036016,0.0011732,0.0058612,0.0034018,-0.0017108,-0.0018442
Umbundu,-0.6262548,0.0632674,0.0217409,0.0160531,0.0014772, 0.0116576,-0.014512,0.0233182,-0.0330613,0.0168842,0.001965,-0.0002998,-0.0027279,0.0005366,-0.009351,0.0062516,-0.0056196,0.0030026,-0.0045817,0.0020634,0.000262,0.000779,0.0016762,-0.0001084,-0.0001797

Laredo

12-08-2023, 03:26 PM

Just add them the same way you added the spanish ones, you can pick the samples here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wZr-UOve0KUKo_Qbgeo27m-CQncZWb8y/view).
I did an average of the samples that were closest to me of the african and amerindian ones there, but you can just pick random ones, too! Since you're mexican, I recommend Mixe, for Amerindian and Umbundu for African, but you chose.

Mixe,0.0578222,-0.3207042,0.1230168,0.0943806,-0.1073434,-0.015562,-0.2782054,-0.3340476,-0.012026,-0.0146882,-0.0071126,-0.0065642,0.0044598,0.0202028,-0.0087946,0.004004,0.006102,0.0004564,-0.0004526,-0.0036016,0.0011732,0.0058612,0.0034018,-0.0017108,-0.0018442
Umbundu,-0.6262548,0.0632674,0.0217409,0.0160531,0.0014772, 0.0116576,-0.014512,0.0233182,-0.0330613,0.0168842,0.001965,-0.0002998,-0.0027279,0.0005366,-0.009351,0.0062516,-0.0056196,0.0030026,-0.0045817,0.0020634,0.000262,0.000779,0.0016762,-0.0001084,-0.0001797

you mean i add this one next to the spanish right? or i leave some space?

Eurafricanid

12-08-2023, 03:28 PM

you mean i add this one next to the spanish right? or i leave some space?
They could be just below the spanish samples, or add space, that doesn't really matter.

Beowulf

12-08-2023, 03:29 PM

you mean i add this one next to the spanish right? or i leave some space?

Mixe,0.0578222,-0.3207042,0.1230168,0.0943806,-0.1073434,-0.015562,-0.2782054,-0.3340476,-0.012026,-0.0146882,-0.0071126,-0.0065642,0.0044598,0.0202028,-0.0087946,0.004004,0.006102,0.0004564,-0.0004526,-0.0036016,0.0011732,0.0058612,0.0034018,-0.0017108,-0.0018442
Umbundu,-0.6262548,0.0632674,0.0217409,0.0160531,0.0014772, 0.0116576,-0.014512,0.0233182,-0.0330613,0.0168842,0.001965,-0.0002998,-0.0027279,0.0005366,-0.009351,0.0062516,-0.0056196,0.0030026,-0.0045817,0.0020634,0.000262,0.000779,0.0016762,-0.0001084,-0.0001797
Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average,0.1172558,0.1458 13,0.0405135,0.0001782,0.0443647,-0.0019279,-0.0027678,0.0015301,0.0235551,0.0331352,-0.0045689,0.0078995,-0.0147718,-0.0130905,0.0093082,0.0023725,-0.0011599,-0.0000738,-0.0020531,-0.0022501,0.0051279,-0.0004588,-0.0042143,-0.0030057,0.0019179
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile,0.1204476,0.147553,0.0462 4,0.0007903,0.0479627,-0.0047124,-0.0015361,0.001114,0.0241024,0.0365571,-0.0060885,0.0086073,-0.0174492,-0.0159275,0.0097704,0.0061345,0.0017224,-0.0008717,-0.0027476,-0.0018968,0.0057419,0.0007616,-0.0034344,-0.0046155,-0.0004871
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese,0.1078472,0.1460268,0.0387194,-0.0015314,0.0454226,-0.0035093,-0.0037332,0.0032994,0.0259494,0.0307372,-0.0022572,0.0070634,-0.013733,-0.0111896,0.0111111,-0.0049559,-0.0078025,-0.0012146,-0.0051503,-0.0012208,0.0030511,-0.0032518,-0.0009345,-0.0023375,0.0017584
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese,0.1074692,0.1455366,0.0385358,-0.0030412,0.0416706,-0.0020712,-0.0045992,0.0025914,0.0251558,0.0298848,-0.0014316,0.006579,-0.0126743,-0.0117099,0.0118504,0.0000958,-0.0026846,-0.0015238,-0.0054019,-0.0006264,0.0010056,-0.0027355,0.0002468,-0.0024072,0.0005992
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon,0.1195142,0.14649,0.041389 ,-0.000323,0.0468548,-0.0001395,-0.0005287,0.002942,0.0249008,0.036903,-0.0021518,0.0103035,-0.0176535,-0.0128335,0.0127578,-0.0027845,-0.0047592,-0.0007918,-0.0022312,0.0010005,0.0034625,9.28e-05,-0.0011708,-0.0010545,-0.0002395
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra,0.1238776,0.1489443,0.0502826,0.0036606,0. 0504195,0.0006045,-0.0014884,0.0007308,0.0263494,0.039272,-0.00544,0.0104157,-0.0181614,-0.0145424,0.017033,0.0001768,-0.0105395,0.0019845,-0.0001256,-0.0045647,0.0061973,0.0000616,-0.0067374,-0.0033538,0.0042112
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares,0.1186755, 0.1470692,0.0405504,-0.0004159,0.0424357,-0.0011994,-0.0002034,0.0022884,0.020447,0.0297572,-0.0023632,0.0076816,-0.0146592,-0.0108912,0.0069175,0.0010292,-0.0007364,0.0002438,-0.0006254,-0.0019615,0.0027812,0.0005402,-0.0011606,-0.002123,-0.0014366

Laredo

12-08-2023, 03:33 PM

They could be just below the spanish samples, or add space, that doesn't really matter.

https://i.imgur.com/RWAfd9X.png

https://i.imgur.com/0qn4UP4.png

Eurafricanid

12-08-2023, 03:36 PM

https://i.imgur.com/RWAfd9X.png

https://i.imgur.com/0qn4UP4.png

Ok, now click on AGGREGATE once, for it to say NO.

Laredo

12-08-2023, 04:13 PM

Ok, now click on AGGREGATE once, for it to say NO.

Not sure If I did It right, does that mean my Spanish ancestry Isnt really Castilian ?:puppy_dp:

https://i.imgur.com/8YFQ9yK.png

Beowulf

12-08-2023, 04:23 PM

Not sure If I did It right, does that mean my Spanish ancestry Isnt really Castilian ?:puppy_dp:

The differences beetween Iberians isn't that big is only just hard to pinpoint the exact part of Iberia where you have ancestry I'm sure that astur and leonese are just very close to Castillians and Galicians.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

0.01015369
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

0.01160254
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

0.01836896
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon

0.01952903
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

0.01954612
Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average

0.02698676
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

0.03018826
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

0.67426780
Mixe

0.74384023
Umbundu

</tbody>

Distance of castillians with the other iberian samples

Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404 773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754

Laredo

12-08-2023, 04:29 PM

The differences beetween Iberians isn't that big is only just hard to pinpoint the exact part of Iberia where you have ancestry I'm sure that astur and leonese are just very close to Castillians and Galicians.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

0.01015369
Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

0.01160254
Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

0.01836896
Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon

0.01952903
Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

0.01954612
Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average

0.02698676
Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

0.03018826
Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

0.67426780
Mixe

0.74384023
Umbundu

</tbody>

Distance of castillians with the other iberian samples

Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404 773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754

I been seeign those 3 In almost all calculators which Inst surprising If turn out to be true, what Im more surprised Is that this breaks the sterotype of all mexicans being Andalucian admixed etc .

Beowulf

12-08-2023, 04:34 PM

I been seeign those 3 In almost all calculators which Inst surprising If turn out to be true, what Im more surprised Is that this breaks the sterotype of all mexicans being Andalucian admixed etc .

Most Andalusians descend from the northern ones like Castillians, Asturians, Cantabrians,Galicians and some Eastern Iberians and Basques too being descendant of Andalusians can give you such western iberian profile for example. Depends on your family tree too.

Andalusian is not included in this little calc for that reason i guess.

I'm sure Gallop can confirm it.

PaulieVanZant

12-08-2023, 04:42 PM

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 7.6433% / 0.07643323

84.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
15.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Lol:

Target: Stahl
Distance: 7.7479% / 0.07747883
85.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
15.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Beowulf

12-08-2023, 04:46 PM

Lol:

Target: Stahl
Distance: 7.7479% / 0.07747883
85.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
15.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

typischer deutscher Tourist auf den Balearen :bounce:

PaulieVanZant

12-08-2023, 04:52 PM

typischer deutscher Tourist auf den Balearen :bounce:

Better prepare the sun beds, cause I`ll occupy ALL of them! :rotfl:

Gallop

12-08-2023, 07:58 PM

Most Andalusians descend from the northern ones like Castillians, Asturians, Cantabrians,Galicians and some Eastern Iberians and Basques too being descendant of Andalusians can give you such western iberian profile for example. Depends on your family tree too.

Andalusian is not included in this little calc for that reason i guess.

I'm sure Gallop can confirm it.

Apparently, the reason is that Western Andalusia hardly differs from Astur-Leonese and Eastern Andalusia barely differs from Castile.

Beowulf

12-08-2023, 08:01 PM

Apparently, the reason is that Western Andalusia hardly differs from Astur-Leonese and Eastern Andalusia barely differs from Castile.

Ah okay i see :thumb001:

Just wondering that means that you have averages for western and eastern Andalusia? :icon1:

Gallop

12-08-2023, 09:07 PM

Ah okay i see :thumb001:

Just wondering that means that you have averages for western and eastern Andalusia? :icon1:

Apparently, the results of Western and Eastern Andalusia were identical to Astur, Leonés and Castile, so there was no need for a label for Andalusia.

Laredo

12-08-2023, 09:08 PM

Apparently, the results of Western and Eastern Andalusia were identical to Astur, Leonés and Castile, so there was no need for a label for Andalusia.

Does that mean they decend from there after the reconquista or what? or just simply no genetic differences?

Gallop

12-08-2023, 09:16 PM

I been seeign those 3 In almost all calculators which Inst surprising If turn out to be true, what Im more surprised Is that this breaks the sterotype of all mexicans being Andalucian admixed etc .

I didn't know that stereotype, but Ancestry has given me this in the absence of a database for Spain and I'm not from Asturias from León or Castilian, I'm from Andalusia as you know.

They gave me all this, you will know better than I do what it means, I have hardly left Andalusia, I am in a small cloistered town I hardly know the world. :cool:

You posted a video of a mestizo Mexican boy who went to some Mexican towns with very Western European looking people, what do you think is the reason for that? Exactly to the Andalusians.

Andalusian Gallop Results. What I can't say for sure is if the paternal and maternal part is correct, since in Ancestry you can change it manually and I would need, for example, for my father to take the test in Ancestry to be able to distinguish the parts.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwtiVqBMIXfqgtQG8oDR93x9hAXEN-ffLFZUwS-TtHKNCOQbH4P3ZnhuVi4X1D39WmZw6X7Nf5dqVs_OMGUS3Cc9G ghDYx2E2FWeFF9qNtLcmAybqTShRsl-oMjhYCTpJwQsehG_pJxX_7-GQBp_byTIu3l4KopLtaxmAkZxqWTFzl4xYQxC4Cepgyey8/s322/2023-08-21%2022%2042%2030.jpg

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgpZDpLFcPjS58dxbPrjOtGRmDmI2LO-tdvbfbukBxw3WpQL85PYxsv1O-Doun6kKW1Ye1P-dMWbDLTqhXVolOmWhwB5INJIpGbljB9SzgLLWUkVqmk-lCDp6KfxISABhkVjrZUAryeHbxsVyiiB_uvboT4uJkM-t8alHSY0MfeQE4rH9OhqBtTsXkrJfM/s604/PoblacionesComunes.jpeg

Nunca habríais tenido tanta suerte.

Laredo

12-08-2023, 09:24 PM

I didn't know that stereotype, but Ancestry has given me this in the absence of a database for Spain and I'm not from Asturias from León or Castilian, I'm from Andalusia as you know.

They gave me all this, you will know better than I do what it means, I have hardly left Andalusia, I am in a small cloistered town I hardly know the world. :cool:

You posted a video of a mestizo Mexican boy who went to some Mexican towns with very Western European looking people, what do you think is the reason for that? Exactly to the Andalusians.

Andalusian Gallop Results. What I can't say for sure is if the paternal and maternal part is correct, since in Ancestry you can change it manually and I would need, for example, for my father to take the test in Ancestry to be able to distinguish the parts.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwtiVqBMIXfqgtQG8oDR93x9hAXEN-ffLFZUwS-TtHKNCOQbH4P3ZnhuVi4X1D39WmZw6X7Nf5dqVs_OMGUS3Cc9G ghDYx2E2FWeFF9qNtLcmAybqTShRsl-oMjhYCTpJwQsehG_pJxX_7-GQBp_byTIu3l4KopLtaxmAkZxqWTFzl4xYQxC4Cepgyey8/s322/2023-08-21%2022%2042%2030.jpg

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgpZDpLFcPjS58dxbPrjOtGRmDmI2LO-tdvbfbukBxw3WpQL85PYxsv1O-Doun6kKW1Ye1P-dMWbDLTqhXVolOmWhwB5INJIpGbljB9SzgLLWUkVqmk-lCDp6KfxISABhkVjrZUAryeHbxsVyiiB_uvboT4uJkM-t8alHSY0MfeQE4rH9OhqBtTsXkrJfM/s604/PoblacionesComunes.jpeg

Nunca habríais tenido tanta suerte.

Gallop de que hablas? lol y si Mexico es diverso tanto como entre herencia europea y nativa y fenotipicamente

its not rare to be genetically mestizo and looking spanish etc

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?379419-Classify-a-very-close-DNA-cousin

Gallop

12-08-2023, 09:24 PM

Does that mean they decend from there after the reconquista or what? or just simply no genetic differences?

I'm thinking about it. It might be a bit of both.

#Oda#

12-08-2023, 10:02 PM

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 7.7667% / 0.07766671
100.0 Spaniard

I dont have this 85/15% split surprisingly :confused:

PaulieVanZant

12-08-2023, 10:10 PM

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 7.7667% / 0.07766671
100.0 Spaniard

I dont have this 85/15% split surprisingly :confused:

You need to set aggregate to no.

#Oda#

12-08-2023, 10:41 PM

You need to set aggregate to no.

Still. I tried 3 times. Strange.

Grace O'Malley

12-08-2023, 11:03 PM

Still. I tried 3 times. Strange.

If need to select No on Aggregate and it will give you a Spanish region.

Grace O'Malley

12-08-2023, 11:04 PM

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 7.9980% / 0.07997975
57.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
42.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

With the added two from Euroafricanid.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 7.7891% / 0.07789073
63.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
33.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
2.8 Mixe

Laredo

12-08-2023, 11:19 PM

Coastal Elite

12-08-2023, 11:49 PM

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 5.0024% / 0.05002352
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

#Oda#

12-09-2023, 01:03 AM

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 7.7667% / 0.07766671
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares

still 100%, but with a region

Mixdguy17

12-11-2023, 08:04 AM

Distance to: Mixdguy17_scaled
0.13513979 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.13745872 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.14331521 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.14424029 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.14722991 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.14873970 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.15404254 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 13.5140% / 0.13513979
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Mixdguy17

12-11-2023, 04:47 PM

Are these results good for pinpointing your actual Iberian ancestry or is it just for fun?

Gallop

12-11-2023, 04:49 PM

Are these results good for pinpointing your actual Iberian ancestry or is it just for fun?

Apparently, they have been created consciously, not for fun.

Mixdguy17

12-11-2023, 04:50 PM

Apparently, they have been created consciously, not for fun.

All I get are results from galicia and portugal, which makes no sense taking in account my ancestry ght?

Distance to: Mixdguy17_scaled
0.13513979 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.13745872 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.14331521 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.14424029 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.14722991 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.14873970 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.15404254 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 13.5140% / 0.13513979
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Beowulf

12-11-2023, 05:17 PM

All I get are results from galicia and portugal, which makes no sense taking in account my ancestry ght?

Distance to: Mixdguy17_scaled
0.13513979 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.13745872 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.14331521 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.14424029 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.14722991 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.14873970 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.15404254 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 13.5140% / 0.13513979
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

You haven't added amerindian and SSA samples for you

It won't work Well if you don't add them

Pedro Ruben

12-11-2023, 05:25 PM

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.0388% / 0.03038846
58.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
41.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 3.4841% / 0.03484137
96.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
3.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.4376% / 0.02437647
58.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
42.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Gallop

12-11-2023, 07:26 PM

All I get are results from galicia and portugal, which makes no sense taking in account my ancestry ght?

Distance to: Mixdguy17_scaled
0.13513979 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.13745872 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.14331521 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.14424029 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.14722991 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.14873970 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.15404254 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 13.5140% / 0.13513979
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Do some experiments by putting a reference of your ascent that is not from Spain, to see what you get...

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

12-11-2023, 07:32 PM

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.9436% / 0.01943618
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.01943618 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.02283109 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.02955353 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.02976988 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.03077932 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.03786086 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.03956225 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

Mixdguy17

12-11-2023, 07:38 PM

You haven't added amerindian and SSA samples for you

It won't work Well if you don't add them

Yeah, I just wanted to figure out the actual Iberian locations, I think if I add tthe amerindian and SSA it just gives me the percentages but the iberian locations dont really change. I also plot closer to Portuguese user Luso than other Spaniards, I just thought it was so weird XDXD. Specially since my ancestry should be mainly Canarian on my spanish side, since my ancestry is mainly colonial.

PT Tagus

12-11-2023, 10:11 PM

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 2.9653% / 0.02965299
73.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
26.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.02975375 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.03040126 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.03926017 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.03932046 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.04199268 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.04658622 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.05136613 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

axel.aleman

12-11-2023, 10:57 PM

Target: Axel
Distance: 20.6179% / 0.20617884
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Al parecer mi herencia gallega reciente salio aquí

Gallop

12-12-2023, 08:57 AM

Modern Pangea has just been updated. Publishing only the results of Spain. I imagine YDP works with snp

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.1031% / 0.02103087
54.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
24.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
20.4 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

YourDnaPortal
Pangea Modern
Pinpoint Test Run

Castilla La Mancha 72%
Castilla Y Leon 4%
Galicia-Portugal 3%

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.4985% / 0.02498473
80.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
20.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile

YourDnaPortal
Pangea Modern
Pinpoint Test Run

Castilla Y Leon 33.5%
Aragon 16%
Catalonia 15%
Castilla La Mancha 11.5%
Galicia-Portugal 2%

:rolleyes:

Gallop

12-16-2023, 08:40 AM

Gallop

G25
54.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

YourDnaPortal
Galicia-Portugal 3%

Definitely forget these coordinates, if you have saved them delete them.

Father

80.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

YourDnaPortal
Galicia-Portugal 2%

CrGrt

12-16-2023, 04:23 PM

Distance to: CR_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01918394 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.02221982 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.02487199 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.02604044 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.02903027 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.02953670 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
0.03038906 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese

Target: CR_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.8925% / 0.01892526
87.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
12.2 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra

A partir de mis resultados tiendo a creer que todos los españoles y franceses del sur tienen una importante cantidad de sangre vasca(o quizá todos los indigenas de la peninsula ibérica compartían mismo origen y los vascos se mezclaron menos) que es el principal diferenciador respecto a otros países.

alnortedelsur

12-18-2023, 05:51 PM

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.5021% / 0.02502052
87.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
6.8 Yukpa
4.6 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo
1.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.5021% / 0.02502052 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.6 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
6.8 Yukpa
4.6 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo
1.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.6245% / 0.02624548 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.8 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
6.6 Yukpa
4.6 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06693514 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese
0.06818335 Spaniard:Spanish_Astur-Leonese
0.07531687 Spaniard:Spanish_Valencia_Average
0.07628578 Spaniard:Spanish_Catalonia_and_Baleares
0.07915114 Spaniard:Spanish_Aragon
0.08207592 Spaniard:Spanish_Castile
0.08564873 Spaniard:Spanish_Basque-Navarra
0.64661427 Yukpa
0.71075688 SSA:West_African_Niger-Congo:Igbo

without Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.6935% / 0.06693514
100.0 Spaniard:Spanish_Galician-Portuguese

Mixdguy17

12-18-2023, 07:20 PM