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Flashball
12-07-2023, 09:16 PM
From the romance speaking area of Eastern Bretagne
Pays de la Loire + Mayenne/Maine-et-Loire

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAworngWwAAl8JO?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwqUByXEAAoIIl?format=png&name=small


Haplogroups:
J1c2b : found in the British Isles, Germany and Sweden
(Richard III of England belong to J1c2)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwpTedXUAAOdkN?format=jpg&name=medium


G25:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAwsAZaXQAAEhBu?format=jpg&name=large

(No sim)
EasternBretonGallo,0.136588,0.139128,0.048649,0.02 9393,0.039084,0.01506,0.003995,0.007154,0.009817,0 .012574,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.017245,-0.007982,0.020087,-0.004243,-0.023208,0.000253,0.002137,0.001626,0.002496,0.005 688,-0.006779,0.00723,0.002634




Gedmatch:
KT4832245

K13
1 North_Atlantic 48.64
2 Baltic 18.36
3 West_Med 16.84
4 West_Asian 6.85
5 East_Med 6.73
6 South_Asian 2.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 5.52
2 Southeast_English 6.11
3 Southwest_English 6.34
4 West_German 6.78
5 French 7.43
6 Orcadian 8.28
7 West_Scottish 8.65
8 Irish 8.7
9 North_Dutch 9.77
10 Danish 9.87
11 North_German 10.33
12 Norwegian 12.3
13 Spanish_Cataluna 13.5
14 Swedish 14.24
15 Austrian 14.58
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.99
17 Southwest_French 15.3
18 Spanish_Cantabria 15.4
19 Spanish_Galicia 15.48
20 Portuguese 15.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Irish + 31.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.89
2 68.7% West_Scottish + 31.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.92
3 61.7% Irish + 38.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.95
4 61.9% West_Scottish + 38.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.98
5 87.2% Southwest_English + 12.8% South_Italian @ 3.01
6 66.2% Irish + 33.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
7 79% Southwest_English + 21% North_Italian @ 3.06
8 82.5% Southwest_English + 17.5% Tuscan @ 3.07
9 85% Southwest_English + 15% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.09
10 66.4% West_Scottish + 33.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.11
11 85.5% Southwest_English + 14.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.11
12 72.1% West_Scottish + 27.9% North_Italian @ 3.14
13 88.6% Southwest_English + 11.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.2
14 88.6% Southwest_English + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.21
15 66.4% Irish + 33.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.21
16 77.5% Southeast_English + 22.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.26
17 90.4% Southwest_English + 9.6% Cyprian @ 3.28
18 89% Southwest_English + 11% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.29
19 66.6% Irish + 33.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.32
20 66.7% West_Scottish + 33.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.33

Boudin
12-07-2023, 09:58 PM
(No sim)
EasternBretonGallo,0.136588,0.139128,0.048649,0.02 9393,0.039084,0.01506,0.003995,0.007154,0.009817,0 .012574,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.017245,-0.007982,0.020087,-0.004243,-0.023208,0.000253,0.002137,0.001626,0.002496,0.005 688,-0.006779,0.00723,0.002634

Genuine G25 coordinates? Fantastic.


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Distance to:
Boudin


0.05344014
EasternBretonGallo

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Gedmatch:
KT4832245

According to GEDmatch, we share a small segment near the beginning of chromosome 19, which are both entirely "French & German" according to 23andMe (I have some "British & Irish" segments but it's not these):


Largest segment = 8.7 cM


Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 8.7cM (0.241 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 6.7


1 shared segments found for this comparison.

Could you post their "Chromosome Painting" from 23andMe (like in my signature)?

celticdragongod
12-12-2023, 11:51 PM
From the romance speaking area of Eastern Bretagne
Pays de la Loire + Mayenne/Maine-et-Loire


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Irish + 31.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.89
2 68.7% West_Scottish + 31.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.92
3 61.7% Irish + 38.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.95
4 61.9% West_Scottish + 38.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.98
5 87.2% Southwest_English + 12.8% South_Italian @ 3.01
6 66.2% Irish + 33.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
7 79% Southwest_English + 21% North_Italian @ 3.06
8 82.5% Southwest_English + 17.5% Tuscan @ 3.07
9 85% Southwest_English + 15% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.09
10 66.4% West_Scottish + 33.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.11
11 85.5% Southwest_English + 14.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.11
12 72.1% West_Scottish + 27.9% North_Italian @ 3.14
13 88.6% Southwest_English + 11.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.2
14 88.6% Southwest_English + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.21
15 66.4% Irish + 33.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.21
16 77.5% Southeast_English + 22.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.26
17 90.4% Southwest_English + 9.6% Cyprian @ 3.28
18 89% Southwest_English + 11% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.29
19 66.6% Irish + 33.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.32
20 66.7% West_Scottish + 33.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.33

It would seem that the Bretons were originally like the Irish and West British populations before intermarrying with Franco-Iberians.

Beowulf
12-12-2023, 11:54 PM
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Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.04747703
EasternBretonGallo



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mother:

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Distance to:
Mama_Scaled


0.03608230
EasternBretonGallo



</tbody>

Grandfather:

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Distance to:
Abuelo_Scaled


0.03496376
EasternBretonGallo



</tbody>

Beowulf
12-13-2023, 12:00 AM
He shares with my maternal grandfather one segment in chromosome 22

https://i.postimg.cc/522g7bVd/Screenshot-2023-12-13-01-59-40.png (https://postimages.org/)

Boudin
12-13-2023, 12:47 AM
He shares with my maternal grandfather one segment in chromosome 22

Now I'm wondering what the significance of these shared segments are, and if any more distantly-related Europeans share a segment with them.

Flashball
12-13-2023, 11:50 AM
It would seem that the Bretons were originally like the Irish and West British populations before intermarrying with Franco-Iberians.

Intermarrying with franco-iberians? He's mostly Gaulish, to be honest, like a good amount of Eastern Bretons.