Jingle Bell Father's results

[Jingle Bell]

Hi guys, im here to share my dad results, we did a kit from Genera (A brazilian company) and i also uploaded in Gedmatch and made g25 simulated coords:

Genera results:
https://i.imgur.com/d74VH1e.png

Y-DNA: E -> E1b1a -> E-L515 (SSA)
Mt-DNA: L -> L2 -> L2a1m1 (SSA)

Yep despite begin 60%+ Caucasoid both of his haplos are of SSA origing, intesresting.

Gedmatch:

EuTest V2 K15:
https://i.imgur.com/cuITwzW.png?1

Dodecad K12b:
https://i.imgur.com/Iq1qaR4.png?1

MDPL K23b:
https://i.imgur.com/HGXMvUU.png?1

K36 - > G25 Simulated: feel free to use and test


JB_Dad,-0.16363312358699986,0.09132155756,0.02845136651499 9996,0.00047309157300006593,0.01272501499760001,-0.0016631920163400022,-0.03188948264499995,-0.0030854987659999673,0.005384353412999969,0.01830 3457381000143,0.00010034048612000081,0.00294840175 70000423,-0.0012779332219999815,-0.009526099685999878,0.007703489930000022,0.001633 4078260000946,0.00261560145200012,-0.00620556749900001,-0.0019032020999999654,-0.0003837487189000013,0.0032372283630004786,-0.000041889327999814624,-0.0023524856670000104,-0.0023533240190000138,0.0005526316220000743

some results:


Target: JB_Dad
Distance: 1.5520% / 0.01552047
29.2 Yoruba
21.0 TUR_Barcin_N
16.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
6.6 Dinka
5.4 WHG
4.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
4.6 MAR_Taforalt



Target: JB_Dad
Distance: 1.1772% / 0.01177169 | R5P
51.0 West_Iberia
31.6 West_African_Niger-Congo
6.0 Indigenous_South_America
5.8 East_African_Nilo-Saharan
5.6 Egypt


His surnames are both of Portuguese origin, somes prob was from some slaves while others from actual colonos, for those wondering, he looks mostly euro (Octroon or Quadroon) and ppl usually think hes Argentinian, Italian or NA outside Brasil, he looks quite South Euro/Med despite some SSA influence in nose.

He origin is pretty colonial, mostly Portuguese (Porto & Minho bias), with some Black and Indigenous background, he seens also have some Serfadic ancestry but not sure.

Observations? here my coordinates for ones who wants compare:

JB_Simulated-0.23015103356199967,0.10001493690699997,0.02322481 46046,-0.00606191209600003,0.0185504896228,-0.002065201780500012,-0.026197377454,0.012421770175000145,0.004669826783 999756,0.02661962837999994,0.0009073159878400021,0 .001959602883000025,0.0030749408540000217,-0.002759307199999672,0.0032954740020000317,0.00159 65686690000563,0.0027606280409999545,-0.004835014943999856,-0.0002467313860000306,-0.0008583296875000037,0.002450568205000128,-0.001315936828999928,-0.00227369592900006,-0.007426097772000033,0.0005605393989995267
JingleBell_scaled,-0.228784,0.100537,0.028284,0.004199,0.010156,-0.002231,-0.026321,0.006692,-0.002863,0.027882,0.003248,0.005995,0.008028,-0.009221,0.0076,0.000796,-0.002086,0.008108,0.002388,-0.004002,-0.00025,-0.002844,-0.000863,-0.010604,-0.000239

[Beowulf]

Amazing you finally tested one of your parents!

[Leto]

Y-DNA: E -> E1b1a -> E-L515 (SSA)
Mt-DNA: L -> L2 -> L2a1m1 (SSA)

Yep despite begin 60%+ Caucasoid both of his haplos are of SSA origing, intesresting.

Gedmatch:

EuTest V2 K15:
https://i.imgur.com/cuITwzW.png?1

According to this, only 56.3% West Eurasian/Caucasoid, 37% African, 6.3% Amerindian. Dodecad K12b isn't suitable for Latin Americans, Dodecad World9 is.

If MAR_Taforalt is around half West Eurasian, he is around 57% West Eurasian according to the standard G25 run.

[Jingle Bell]

Amazing you finally tested one of your parents!

Ty man
I tested both, but im tryibg to get my mums raw data to post here also:p

[Jingle Bell]

I just got my mom tested!!!
https://i.imgur.com/wbxHyZI.png

58% SSA
41% Euro
~2% Native American
and 0% MENA!!!!!

Despite she scores a bit of Jew (3%) she scores 0% MENA, while my dad scores 10% Jew + 9% MENA!! seens that my East-Med shift comes from my dad (for a comparison i have 6% Jew + 5% MENA

My results:
https://i.imgur.com/xyZ02Hc.png

My dad MENA shift its huge, despite hes also kinda Northern shoft at same time (Bigger Yamanaya but also Bigger Levant/Iran N/Taforalt) my mom euro side its very typical South Euro and seens just a bit a more Italian towards, while im in the middle as expected also show a visible MENA shift but with less Steppe

(sadly my mom dont got she complete raw data so i cant do Gedmatch :(

[Jingle Bell]

Bump

[HelloGuys]

Your dad is scoring in K15 around 57.97% Euro/MENA, 35.76% Sub-Saharan African and 6.27% Native American but 61% Euro/MENA, 34% Sub-Saharan African and 5% Native American in his DNA test.

So cool bro.

Congratulations about your mom's results! it's interesting she just got 1% Native American.

Before you got your own test, did you expect the results you have?

[HelloGuys]

(sadly my mom dont got she complete raw data so i cant do Gedmatch :(

Why not bro?

[HelloGuys]

I just got my mom tested!!!
https://i.imgur.com/wbxHyZI.png

58% SSA
41% Euro
~2% Native American
and 0% MENA!!!!!

Despite she scores a bit of Jew (3%) she scores 0% MENA, while my dad scores 10% Jew + 9% MENA!! seens that my East-Med shift comes from my dad (for a comparison i have 6% Jew + 5% MENA

My results:
https://i.imgur.com/xyZ02Hc.png

My dad MENA shift its huge, despite hes also kinda Northern shoft at same time (Bigger Yamanaya but also Bigger Levant/Iran N/Taforalt) my mom euro side its very typical South Euro and seens just a bit a more Italian towards, while im in the middle as expected also show a visible MENA shift but with less Steppe

(sadly my mom dont got she complete raw data so i cant do Gedmatch :(

Your Native American percentage is 2%, so it was leaning to your mom's admixture about that population, and your SSA too.

But your MENA (Including Jew) is leaning to your dad's admixture.

Genetics are really impressive, I like it lol

[Laredo]

Why does your dad normally scores on the G25 calculators? I wouldn't put my fully trust on gedmatch either, remembered their calculators have not been updated for over 10 years despite their newest welcome Intro. I've seen fully Europeans on reddit and on gedmatch scoring Siberian and Austroloid or SSA.

[Jingle Bell]

Your dad is scoring in K15 around 57.97% Euro/MENA, 35.76% Sub-Saharan African and 6.27% Native American but 61% Euro/MENA, 34% Sub-Saharan African and 5% Native American in his DNA test.

So cool bro.

Congratulations about your mom's results! it's interesting she just got 1% Native American.

Before you got your own test, did you expect the results you have?

ty man!
Yep my dad results seens variating a bit, im gonna buy his real g25 coords to play a bit

Overall yep i expected more or less that, just less MENA shift that i did not know i had

[Jingle Bell]

Why not bro?

The test she took does not gives a genetic-friendly raw data (just 10% of snps) if i payed just more 7$ i would have her complete raw data, oh bro i regret that so baaaad, and in brazil sadly 23nme neither Ancestry ships, so i will never got a precise test abt our ancestry, the best we got is Gedmatch n g25

[Laredo]

The test she took does not gives a genetic-friendly raw data (just 10% of snps) if i payed just more 7$ i would have her complete raw data, oh bro i regret that so baaaad, and in brazil sadly 23nme neither Ancestry ships, so i will never got a precise test abt our ancestry, the best we got is Gedmatch n g25

Why don't you try Family DNA? Apparently the European part wasn't really off for me or amerindian but gave me unrealistic MENA. So over all it's a great company.

[Jingle Bell]

Why does your dad normally scores on the G25 calculators? I wouldn't put my fully trust on gedmatch either, remembered their calculators have not been updated for over 10 years despite their newest welcome Intro. I've seen fully Europeans on reddit and on gedmatch scoring Siberian and Austroloid or SSA.


Target: dad
Distance: 1.5520% / 0.01552047
29.2 Yoruba
21.0 TUR_Barcin_N
16.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
6.6 Dinka
5.4 WHG
4.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
4.6 MAR_Taforalt



Target: dad
Distance: 1.1410% / 0.01141001 | R5P
48.8 East_Iberia
30.6 West_African_Niger-Congo
8.6 North_Africa
6.0 East_African_Nilo-Saharan
6.0 Indigenous_South_America



Target: dad
Distance: 0.9784% / 0.00978446 | R5P
47.0 Iberian
29.8 West_African
10.2 Middle_Eastern
7.6 Kenyan
5.4 Mesoamerican_Andean



Target: dad
Distance: 0.4660% / 0.00466012 | R5P
41.2 Iberian*(AD*300–1200)
37.4 Sub-Saharan*African
8.2 Levantine*(AD*300–1300)
8.0 Iberian*(700–50*BC)
5.2 South*Amerindian*(9000*BC–AD*1500)

[HelloGuys]

The test she took does not gives a genetic-friendly raw data (just 10% of snps) if i payed just more 7$ i would have her complete raw data, oh bro i regret that so baaaad, and in brazil sadly 23nme neither Ancestry ships, so i will never got a precise test abt our ancestry, the best we got is Gedmatch n g25

I think I am not understanding jaja why is your dad able to get the real G25 coords but your mom can't?

[Jingle Bell]

Why don't you try Family DNA? Apparently the European part wasn't really off for me or amerindian but gave me unrealistic MENA. So over all it's a great company.

They dont inclue Brazil in return ship
Ur FamilyDNA was similar to ur AncestryDNA? what diference u saw comparing AncestryDNA with g25? was a big dff?

[Jingle Bell]

I think I am not understanding jaja why is your dad able to get the real G25 coords but your mom can't?

with my dad i payed the test (40$) + the full raw data add (7$), so i can use his raw data in Gedmtahc, g25 etc, while my mom i just forget to get the raw data add so i cant use in any place sadly

[HelloGuys]

ty man!
Yep my dad results seens variating a bit, im gonna buy his real g25 coords to play a bit

Overall yep i expected more or less that, just less MENA shift that i did not know i had

Please do it, because when you have them, I can pass you some models that are from genetic studies/scientific papers.

[Laredo]

They dont inclue Brazil in return ship
Ur FamilyDNA was similar to ur AncestryDNA? what diference u saw comparing AncestryDNA with g25? was a big dff?

AncestryDna was not remotely closed to FTDNA, but Ancestry raw data it's identical to FTDNA gedmatch and when uploaded to LivingDNA It gave me the same as the FTDNA raw data.

I hope I make sense I've explained this before to some..

[HelloGuys]

with my dad i payed the test (40$) + the full raw data add (7$), so i can use his raw data in Gedmtahc, g25 etc, while my mom i just forget to get the raw data add so i cant use in any place sadly

Ah! Ok, I understand now.

So she would have to take a that prom.test to get the raw data? There is no way to upgrade it just paying more without need to get a new test?

For example AncestryDNA does that, you can buy the origins pack test but paying more you can get the health one without need to be tested again.

[HelloGuys]

They dont inclue Brazil in return ship
Ur FamilyDNA was similar to ur AncestryDNA? what diference u saw comparing AncestryDNA with g25? was a big dff?

It is not the same; the Gedmatch reads more than the double of SNP's with the AncestryDNA raw data than MyHeritageDNA and FTDNA.

FTDNA/MH around 78 K SNP's and AncestryDNA like 175 K.

AncestryDNA is the best about G25 coords, the worst one is 23andme V5.

[Jingle Bell]

AncestryDna was not remotely closed to FTDNA, but Ancestry raw data it's identical to FTDNA gedmatch and when uploaded to LivingDNA It gave me the same as the FTDNA raw data.

I hope I make sense I've explained this before to some..

Could u share ur FTDNA n Ancestry DNA?
How abt g25, do u think was worth? was similar to Ancestry?

[Jingle Bell]

It is not the same; the Gedmatch reads the double of SNP's with the AncestryDNA raw data than MyHeritageDNA and FTDNA.

AncestryDNA is the best about G25 coords, the worst one is 23andme V5.

U alr did any comercial test? im interested if g25 showed a similar result to Ancestr/FTDNA/23nme etc

[HelloGuys]

U alr did any comercial test? im interested if g25 showed a similar result to Ancestr/FTDNA/23nme etc

FTDNA/MH around 78 K SNP's and AncestryDNA like 175 K in Gedmatch.

Yeah ofc I did, if not I couldn't have done Gedmatch or G25 :lmao

Do you mean comparing results? Well, FTDNA gave us a lot more Euro/MENA, less Native American/SSA than AncestryDNA and G25 admixture models based in scientific papers/studies, but AncestryDNA was the closest with the G25 admixture models.

[Jingle Bell]

FTDNA/MH around 78 K SNP's and AncestryDNA like 175 K in Gedmatch.

Yeah ofc I did, if not I couldn't have done Gedmatch or G25 :lmao

Do you mean comparing results? Well, FTDNA gave us a lot more Euro/MENA, less Native American/SSA than AncestryDNA and G25 admixture models based in scientific papers/studies, but AncestryDNA was the closest with the G25.

Hmm, interesting, ty man!

[Laredo]

Could u share ur FTDNA n Ancestry DNA?
How abt g25, do u think was worth? was similar to Ancestry?

Well g25 basically confirmed what I already knew keep In mind I used Ancestry raw dna data for g25/IllustrativeDNA


Here

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/x2EDXkp5Sr88.jpg?o=1

[HelloGuys]

Hmm, interesting, ty man!

You're welcome bro.

Btw, could I send my raw data to Genera to get their results?

[Jingle Bell]

You're welcome bro.

Btw, could I send my raw data to Genera to get their results?

Sadly no man, they dont accept raw data

[HelloGuys]

Sadly no man, they dont accept raw data

That's not cool bro :(

Do you know if they ship to México then?

[Jingle Bell]

That's not cool bro :(

Do you know if they ship to México then?

nop bro, they just ship in Brazil, but they arent very accurate also i dont recomend if u alr have raw data from others companies

[HelloGuys]

nop bro, they just ship in Brazil, but they arent very accurate also i dont recomend if u alr have raw data from others companies

:pout:

But I have seen they were not off, I could see some resemblance between the results with G25/Gedmatch, ofc at least the ones I saw.

[Mixdguy17]

Awesome results bro!

I noticed your mom scores very low amerindian. Is it normal to score low amerindian among brazilians?.

[Jingle Bell]

Awesome results bro!

I noticed your mom scores very low amerindian. Is it normal to score low amerindian among brazilians?.

Ty man!
No the average is 5% - 20%, but we are from a region called Bahia which amerindian anvestry is less comun

[Eurafricanid]

Awesome results! How did I miss those? It's sad that my parents aren't interested :(.

You're right in the middle of your parents's results, that's so cool to see!

[Eurafricanid]

Your mom seems to be as Amerindian as I am, but in G25 I seen to be as Amerindian as you are.
https://i.imgur.com/I7GWKhw.png

[Mixdguy17]

Ty man!
No the average is 5% - 20%, but we are from a region called Bahia which amerindian anvestry is less comun

Oh wow, very interesting, its a little lower than I thought,

Is the average brazilian more SSA than Amerindian?

[Jingle Bell]

Your mom seems to be as Amerindian as I am, but in G25 I seen to be as Amerindian as you are.
https://i.imgur.com/I7GWKhw.png

Damn ur Genera looking Hella good, mines kinda confusing, also insteresting that u got no Jew and just 3% MENA, i think im can be called JingleBell the Moor now XD
Also u scoring levant, while i score Peninsulae Arab with minor Levant, interesting

[Jingle Bell]

Oh wow, very interesting, its a little lower than I thought,

Is the average brazilian more SSA than Amerindian?

Yep, the avr Brazilian is 65% Euro 25% SSA n 10% Native
But my region for example would be more like 55% Euro 35% SSA n 5% Native

[Laredo]

Yep, the avr Brazilian is 65% Euro 25% SSA n 10% Native
But my region for example would be more like 55% Euro 35% SSA n 5% Native

Whats the average for the south 75%? Maybe? There was this Brazilian called Tenma de pagus who used to said 90% lmao

[Jingle Bell]

Whats the average for the south 75%? Maybe? There was this Brazilian called Tenma de pagus who used to said 90% lmao

Southease maybe 70%, (Not just Euro, SE has a lot of Lebanese, Syrian and Jewish influence)
South may be even up to 75% - 80% (Principally in Santa Catarina) but they are exception, and dont represrtn Brazil as whole, Italians, Germans n Poles/Ukranian almost replaced the original mestizo/harnizo population (made of Pampa guaranis and mainly Spanish/Portuguese setters, its hard find a Southener without any drop of foreinger blood but theybexist

[Mixdguy17]

Yep, the avr Brazilian is 65% Euro 25% SSA n 10% Native
But my region for example would be more like 55% Euro 35% SSA n 5% Native

Thank u for the info brother!

[Jingle Bell]

After a loooong time, finally i could get my mom results, even with very low coverage bcs of genera method 1, but its better than nothing, so the results can be somwhat innacurate:

Her 36K simulated:
MotherSimulated_(Low_Coverage),-0.3054586583760001,0.097140103909,0.02057956234360 0023,-0.0007090359200001561,0.011626985114000012,0.00177 74118508000081,-0.012940882271000027,0.01576212931900014,-0.0158613113240001,0.024825219698999854,0.00248549 66958400013,0.00038136294099981247,0.0032603652270 000293,-0.0019227948140001783,0.0019252995590001779,-0.003062118000000044,0.006230333619999917,0.007810 6858680000585,-0.0038357715430000112,-0.0012097682449999938,-0.002691362095000052,-0.001547889299999744,0.001493888528999945,-0.0011780132979999774,-0.00005704856400033653

some results of them from DNA Genics compars to mine and dad:

Eurogenes K13:https://i.imgur.com/H94upCj.png
LM Genetics Global K3: https://i.imgur.com/XoiD7gK.png
Dodecad Globe 13: https://i.imgur.com/U8j0sYJ.png

[Jingle Bell]

Finally i got my dad oficial g25:

JingleBell_Dad_scaled,-0.15988484,0.08677958,0.02895610,0.00230248,0.0133 6546,-0.00281760,-0.03135034,-0.00307596,-0.00537518,0.02587760,0.00002512,0.00254434,0.0022 5600,-0.00627572,0.00298254,0.00255212,0.00377364,-0.00242558,0.00083134,-0.00117600,0.00509830,0.00167304,-0.00459502,-0.00090404,-0.00288712

If u guys wanna do some tests, go ahead

[Sovanz]

Finally i got my dad oficial g25:

JingleBell_Dad_scaled,-0.15988484,0.08677958,0.02895610,0.00230248,0.0133 6546,-0.00281760,-0.03135034,-0.00307596,-0.00537518,0.02587760,0.00002512,0.00254434,0.0022 5600,-0.00627572,0.00298254,0.00255212,0.00377364,-0.00242558,0.00083134,-0.00117600,0.00509830,0.00167304,-0.00459502,-0.00090404,-0.00288712

If u guys wanna do some tests, go ahead

your father and I have exact European percentage in some calculators the difference Is just 1.5%