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Avicenna
12-21-2023, 04:12 PM
I counted 229 people within the same environment and setting and lighting. As I have done this before in my previous thread which you can find here : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?377868-Afghan-Eye-Colour-Study-(-711-people)&highlight=Supercomputer

With this study, there is a slight difference and that is the amount of hazaras and uzbeks have reduced compared to the first time. Again, this study contains a random amount of Afghan from various ethnic groups.

This study indicates the average light colour pigmentation. The colours I have classified as "light " are as follows:

Green
Blue
Grey
Light mixed eyes ( majority light with minor amounts of dark eyes).

I did not include colours such as hazel , evenly mixed or dark mixed as light pigmented eyes obviously .

Results :

Out of 229 individuals I counted 46 having colored eyes, of which being different shades of green, blue, grey, and light mixed. Please note these numbers are quite conservative as I did not include individuals as "colored" who I was unsure about ( I .e if they had hazel or light mixed ) , however i did include them in the study.

Out of 229 individuals, there were about 30 individuals who were clearly Turkic/ Mongol. Other individuals may have been mixed however you cannot be sure.

46/229= 20.01%

Removing around 12 Turkic /Mongol individuals ( keeping around 18 Individuals of Turkic/Mongol descent in the batch to reflect reality of diversity in Afghanistan)

46/ 216 = 21.3%

As expected, the overall percentage has increased from the previous time ( ~15%) to now, one theory is that there were more purer Tajiks in this study compared to the other study where it was a Mish mash of different ethnicities. One reason to possibly explain this is this study was taken from a game show that aired after the Taliban takeover, hence why minorities just as hazaras were more reluctant to go on air ?

Oliver109
12-21-2023, 04:47 PM
Interesting, light eyes are well within the south European norm there, would be interesting to contrast with Pakistani groups lol.

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 04:51 PM
Interesting, light eyes are well within the south European norm there, would be interesting to contrast with Pakistani groups lol.

Yeah it pops up quite commonly, and that's not even looking at specific ethnic groups and regions like Nuristanis or Pashayis where imo it probably exceeds 30% easily ( atleast for Nuristanis).

Hektor12
12-21-2023, 04:54 PM
46/229= 20.01%

Removing around 12 Turkic /Mongol individuals ( keeping around 18 Individuals of Turkic/Mongol descent in the batch to reflect reality of diversity in Afghanistan)

46/ 216 = 21.3%

So you basically removed all dark eyed Turkic individuals and kept light eyed ones?

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 05:04 PM
So you basically removed all dark eyed Turkic individuals and kept light eyed ones?

In this batch none of them had light eyes.

If I remove all of them then it would be more than 21%, however I kept atleast 18 of them for realism, as in Afghanistan you will always bump into Turkics in amidst of local Iranics.

Hektor12
12-21-2023, 05:07 PM
In this batch none of them had light eyes.

Not even 1/30 light eyes, interesting.

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 05:11 PM
Not even 1/30 light eyes, interesting.

No, btw it was mainly hazaras not Turkics like uzbeks or turkmens. Either way, it doesn't really make a impact if I keep all of them in the batch or remove them tbh.

Hektor12
12-21-2023, 05:13 PM
No, btw it was mainly hazaras not Turkics like uzbeks or turkmens.

Ah, Ok. For one moment i was surprised that how they lacked any light eyes.

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 05:17 PM
Ah, Ok. For one moment i was surprised that how they lacked any light eyes.

No I've noticed even hazaras have colored eyes, but majority don't, however in this batch they didn't seem to have it. Either way, let's just keep the hazaras in the batch as removing them makes no use of anything.

Kess
12-21-2023, 05:30 PM
I think Central Asian Iranian people have unique eye coloring such as the famous Afghan girl. You won't see this shade of green anywhere else in the world.

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Avicenna
12-21-2023, 05:34 PM
I think Central Asian Iranian people have unique eye coloring such as the famous Afghan girl. You won't see this shade of green anywhere else in the world.

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Maybe in turkey and Levant? I don't think it's unique to central Asia tbh I've seen people with similar eye colour to her. However yes people do notice something about the eye colours in that region.

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 10:24 PM
To increase the validity and reliability of my study, I observed an additional 100 individuals. Out of 100 individuals I counted 20 folks with colored eyes, keeping in mind this number is the bare minimum as my criteria was quite strict. When checking the eye pigmentation of the individuals, some were quite difficult to figure out as the lighting was quite dim and dark.

20/100 = 20%.

Oliver109
12-21-2023, 10:57 PM
To increase the validity and reliability of my study, I observed an additional 100 individuals. Out of 100 individuals I counted 20 folks with colored eyes, keeping in mind this number is the bare minimum as my criteria was quite strict. When checking the eye pigmentation of the individuals, some were quite difficult to figure out as the lighting was quite dim and dark.

20/100 = 20%.

Would you say light eyes are more common in Afghanistan or Tajikistan?

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 11:09 PM
Would you say light eyes are more common in Afghanistan or Tajikistan?

Afghanistan all day long lol.

You are forgetting the Pamirs extends into much of Northeast Afghanistan, so even if you make a case for Tajik Pamiris , you have to also consider Afghan pamiris. Either way, coloured eyes are more frequent among Nuristanis , Pashayis and Pashtuns anyways.

Oliver109
12-21-2023, 11:12 PM
Afghanistan all day long lol.

interesting, though a lot of Tajiks do give me a somewhat Russian vibe with quite light skin but mongolised features

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 11:13 PM
interesting, though a lot of Tajiks do give me a somewhat Russian vibe with quite light skin but mongolised features

But you said colored eyes, not looking like a Mongol russian lol.

Oliver109
12-21-2023, 11:18 PM
But you said colored eyes, not looking like a Mongol russian lol.

I mean like this, Coon had eye blondism in parts of Tajikistan at around 30% i think:
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-60d188144c31c15478598b065201fdd9-lq
https://www.unicef.org/tajikistan/sites/unicef.org.tajikistan/files/styles/press_release_feature/public/IMG_8542.jpg?itok=EQyq7L0x

Avicenna
12-21-2023, 11:24 PM
I mean like this, Coon had eye blondism in parts of Tajikistan at around 30% i think:
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-60d188144c31c15478598b065201fdd9-lq
https://www.unicef.org/tajikistan/sites/unicef.org.tajikistan/files/styles/press_release_feature/public/IMG_8542.jpg?itok=EQyq7L0x

And in parts of Afghanistan it exceeds 30%. Think about it, if I'm getting numbers above 20% for over 200 individuals which are just random urban civillians who aren't even isolated groups ( unlike pamiris), what makes you think isolated groups in Afghanistan like the Nuristani won't get above 30%?

https://i.ibb.co/YDYx5kz/Screenshot-20231217-201643-com-google-android-youtube.jpg (https://ibb.co/q0XvHst)
https://i.ibb.co/SvBV5t8/Screenshot-20230613-151323-com-android-gallery3d.jpg (https://ibb.co/Lp19YxW)
https://i.ibb.co/sWN3z24/Screenshot-20230613-151257-com-android-gallery3d.jpg (https://ibb.co/phMX5xT)
https://i.ibb.co/Kj3kr5S/Screenshot-20231220-102343.jpg (https://ibb.co/tMWtJHF)