vader
12-22-2023, 04:17 PM
My take on why E-M81 exists in Castillians, Galicians, North Portuguese considering that the north was barely occupied, if occupied at all. It's more likely that the high incidence of E-M81 in the west areas of Iberia is less modern than moorish conquest. Most likely roman era, and Carthaginian era related. Romans used berber slaves on the mines for the extraction of rich minerals, gold, silver, tin, that was in abundance from Galicia to the deep south of Portugal! It is pretty clear that there was a natural ethnogenesis occurred with slaves integrating into the local population. It is a narrow-minded idea that all this admixture and differences is due to moorish conquest alone. As we know repopulation from the northern christian kingdoms completely diminished the north african component to great extents. This happened in every stretch of the peninsula.
Now we also need to understand that Southern Portuguese were replaced by Castillians, Galicians, and North/center Portuguese as well. In theory my genetic profile should be much more distinguished from North Portuguese, Galicians, and Castillians, yet I am very close to these populations, hence repopulation makes sense. This is a large difference we see between Northern Italians vs southern italians. Yet, the differences between my family (deep southern algarvio Portuguese) and Galicians, Castillians, even Asturians is extremely minimal in comparison to a Ligurian vs Calabrian. The gap in research is why these northern christian kingdoms had berber dna to begin with at modern capacities? Because they had it from a combination of predominantly Roman era and Carthaginian era going into the moorish era. And my argument is that at least 80% of this berber admixture comes from pre-moorish era. Such would explain why differences in regions in the peninsula are on such a minimal scale. I can provide models to show just how close modern Southern andalusians, southern algarvios are to their far north neighbors to further explain this theory.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/1703260734094-png.14809/
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/1703262017372-png.14811/
Here is the distance of my dad a southern Portuguese from the municipality of Silves (deep south Algarve):
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/screen-shot-2023-12-22-at-11-30-02-am-png.14813/
To truly understand how minimal north vs south is in iberian regions lets compare a southern italian to a central-north italian.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/screen-shot-2023-12-22-at-11-32-26-am-png.14814/
not super far. But def. there is a larger difference. This is like comparing a Portuguese to a Catalonian roughly speaking (in terms of distance).
Now we also need to understand that Southern Portuguese were replaced by Castillians, Galicians, and North/center Portuguese as well. In theory my genetic profile should be much more distinguished from North Portuguese, Galicians, and Castillians, yet I am very close to these populations, hence repopulation makes sense. This is a large difference we see between Northern Italians vs southern italians. Yet, the differences between my family (deep southern algarvio Portuguese) and Galicians, Castillians, even Asturians is extremely minimal in comparison to a Ligurian vs Calabrian. The gap in research is why these northern christian kingdoms had berber dna to begin with at modern capacities? Because they had it from a combination of predominantly Roman era and Carthaginian era going into the moorish era. And my argument is that at least 80% of this berber admixture comes from pre-moorish era. Such would explain why differences in regions in the peninsula are on such a minimal scale. I can provide models to show just how close modern Southern andalusians, southern algarvios are to their far north neighbors to further explain this theory.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/1703260734094-png.14809/
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/1703262017372-png.14811/
Here is the distance of my dad a southern Portuguese from the municipality of Silves (deep south Algarve):
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/screen-shot-2023-12-22-at-11-30-02-am-png.14813/
To truly understand how minimal north vs south is in iberian regions lets compare a southern italian to a central-north italian.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attachments/screen-shot-2023-12-22-at-11-32-26-am-png.14814/
not super far. But def. there is a larger difference. This is like comparing a Portuguese to a Catalonian roughly speaking (in terms of distance).