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HelloGuys
01-07-2024, 09:59 PM
First of all, I'm sorry for your loss and you can see this thread whenever you want, but I'm going to keep my promise that I'd post your results today.

Second (And anyone who is reading this):

The point of making these models is to try to recreate the qpAdm admixture methodology and try to lower the chances that a model could be rejected if it were made there.

Obviously we don't know if it can be rejected or not in G25, but that's why I try to reduce that possibility as much as possible following this points:

-Logical modelling.
-Use the same individuals and remove outliers as the studies/papers have stated.
-Not very ancient models.
-No more than 5 populations (Max. 5-way).
-Completely based on studies/papers of admixture models (But adapted to the person's roots).
-Play it safe.

If a model doesn't match with all those 6 requirements, I'd say that the admixture model posted here would be just for fun, so in consequence should not be taken seriously Imo.

Note: The results could change in case there are (Or find) new samples/coordinates that are not available for now in the G25 but are published in the genetic studies.

So taking all this text into account, I'm going to post your results in the next post.

HelloGuys
01-07-2024, 10:00 PM
Obsolete admixture model by I Lazaridis · 2014
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 6.2008% / 0.06200781
66.0 EEF
24.6 ANE
9.4 WHG

Admixture graph model by I Lazaridis · 2018
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 10.8731% / 0.10873096
89.2 Caucasus_UP
8.2 WHG_UP
2.6 ANE

Admixture model based on different studies/papers (Mesolithic)
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 4.9928% / 0.04992805
59.4 AHG
23.0 EHG
13.4 CHG
3.6 WHG
0.6 Iran_N

Admixture model by W Haak · 2015
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 2.7864% / 0.02786405
55.2 EEF
38.0 Yamnaya
6.8 WHG

Admixture model (Adapted) by A Flores-Bello · 2021
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.4421% / 0.01442131
56.8 Iberian_IA
26.6 Roman
12.4 Slavic_IA
2.8 Nordic_IA
1.4 North_African

Admixture model (Adapted) by M Silva · 2021
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.6998% / 0.01699778
71.6 Iberian_LMA
19.0 English
9.4 Polish

Admixture model by HelloGuys/Jalisciense (Modern period (1))
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.2407% / 0.01240737
77.0 Spanish
8.6 English
7.8 Polish
6.6 North_Italian

Admixture model by HelloGuys/Jalisciense (Modern period (2))
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.4367% / 0.01436724
65.0 Spanish
12.6 English
12.4 North_Italian
10.0 Polish

Admixture model by HelloGuys/Jalisciense (23andme version)
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.6867% / 0.01686655
62.4 Southern_European
37.6 Northwestern_European

Beowulf
01-07-2024, 10:52 PM
Thank you HelloGuys I love the results and the distances are pretty good!!!

Laredo
01-07-2024, 11:06 PM
Thank you HelloGuys I love the results and the distances are pretty good!!!

Parece que realmente tienes ancestros Anglos, eres mas northern que el castellano promedio tambien.

Beowulf
01-07-2024, 11:08 PM
Parece que realmente tienes ancestros Anglos, eres mas northern que el castellano promedio tambien.

Mi bisabuela era inglesa con algunos noruegos distantes era algo que dije hace tiempo

Laredo
01-07-2024, 11:09 PM
Mi bisabuela era inglesa con algunos noruegos distantes era algo que dije hace tiempo

Pues para hacer una bisabuela aun asi lo tienes bien marcado congrats :thumb001:

Beowulf
01-07-2024, 11:12 PM
Pues para hacer una bisabuela aun asi lo tienes bien marcado congrats :thumb001:

Mi test de ADN y G25 me suele dar normalmente alrededor del 20% supongo que tener antepasados "relativamente recientes" en otros lugares como Polonia e Italia influirá y subirá el porcentaje norte europeo aunque quizás no sea del todo real y puede que esté algo inflado.

Yo solo supongo.

Al menos con los modelos que a usado HelloGuys: no está tan inflado.

Laredo
01-07-2024, 11:14 PM
Mi test de ADN y G25 me suele dar normalmente alrededor del 20% supongo que tener antepasados "relativamente recientes" en otros lugares como Polonia e Italia influirá y subirá el porcentaje norte europeo aunque quizás no sea del todo real y puede que esté algo inflado.

Yo solo supongo.

Que tan comun es que los Españoles tengan ancestros de Europa de otras parte? Se que en la clase alta asi como los Reyes es comun.

Pero me imagino que tu caso es atypico no?

Beowulf
01-07-2024, 11:18 PM
Que tan comun es que los Españoles tengan ancestros de Europa de otras parte? Se que en la clase alta asi como los Reyes es comun.

Pero me imagino que tu caso es atypico no?

Suele ser atípico aunque en lugares como Mallorca o de alto interés turístico y comercial es más común tener algún antepasado de otro país reciente que no de alguien de algún pueblo en medio de la península.

HelloGuys
01-07-2024, 11:22 PM
Thank you HelloGuys I love the results and the distances are pretty good!!!

You're welcome bro, and I'm glad you liked them :thumb001:

JerryS.
01-08-2024, 01:58 PM
Where can I access those "modern period" sources?

JerryS.
01-08-2024, 06:59 PM
Obsolete admixture model by I Lazaridis · 2014
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 6.2008% / 0.06200781
66.0 EEF
24.6 ANE
9.4 WHG

Admixture graph model by I Lazaridis · 2018
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 10.8731% / 0.10873096
89.2 Caucasus_UP
8.2 WHG_UP
2.6 ANE

Admixture model based on different studies/papers (Mesolithic)
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 4.9928% / 0.04992805
59.4 AHG
23.0 EHG
13.4 CHG
3.6 WHG
0.6 Iran_N

Admixture model by W Haak · 2015
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 2.7864% / 0.02786405
55.2 EEF
38.0 Yamnaya
6.8 WHG

Admixture model (Adapted) by A Flores-Bello · 2021
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.4421% / 0.01442131
56.8 Iberian_IA
26.6 Roman
12.4 Slavic_IA
2.8 Nordic_IA
1.4 North_African

Admixture model (Adapted) by M Silva · 2021
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.6998% / 0.01699778
71.6 Iberian_LMA
19.0 English
9.4 Polish

Admixture model by HelloGuys/Jalisciense (Modern period (1))
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.2407% / 0.01240737
77.0 Spanish
8.6 English
7.8 Polish
6.6 North_Italian

Admixture model by HelloGuys/Jalisciense (Modern period (2))
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.4367% / 0.01436724
65.0 Spanish
12.6 English
12.4 North_Italian
10.0 Polish

Admixture model by HelloGuys/Jalisciense (23andme version)
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.6867% / 0.01686655
62.4 Southern_European
37.6 Northwestern_European

Where can I find your modern period 1 and 2 sources?

Rafael Passoni
01-08-2024, 07:05 PM
Where is this model: Admixture model (Adapted) by M Silva · 2021? Looks accurate.

HelloGuys
01-08-2024, 07:33 PM
Where can I access those "modern period" sources?

Here:

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html?m=1#google_vignette

HelloGuys
01-08-2024, 07:35 PM
Where is this model: Admixture model (Adapted) by M Silva · 2021? Looks accurate.

I used the same individuals/samples from M Silva's 2021 study but adapted to the user's roots.