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Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 12:08 AM
Based on the Thread Spain, Portugal have italian-- roman genetics. (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?357521-Spain-Portugal-have-italian-roman-genetics/) and this post made by JingleBell (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?357521-Spain-Portugal-have-italian-roman-genetics&p=7887724&viewfull=1#post7887724).


As the post says the Roman samples are East-Med shifted Romans (Greek/Anatolian/Levantine admixed profile), the Iberian_IA are Iberians (Iberos) and Hispano-Celts.

The Germanic is for the Gothic and Suebi, but some Celtic influence/shift is very possible.


Imperial_Roman,0.1088149,0.1499502,-0.0232629,-0.0568757,0.0039744,-0.0205662,-0.0006916,-0.0056899,-0.0031497,0.0210144,0.0036328,0.0025435,-0.0056491,-0.0006134,-0.0106328,-0.0022274,0.0049509,0.000981,0.0025067,-0.0049167,-0.002763,0.0029712,-0.0016515,0.0006852,0.0003387
Imperial_Roman,0.091817,0.14082,-0.033941,-0.0611547,-0.003488,-0.013666,0.0008617,-0.0030767,-0.0072267,0.0098407,0.0038433,0.0064943,0.0014867,-0.0024313,-0.001855,0.0122867,0.0087793,-0.001647,0.0026817,-0.004252,0.0009567,0.0029263,-0.0031633,0.0035747,0.0026747
Imperial_Roman,0.102014,0.1487751,-0.0297454,-0.0677089,0.0017697,-0.0231479,-0.0011162,-0.0056248,-0.0051898,0.019112,0.0021921,0.0020231,-0.0059278,-0.0010666,-0.0105861,0.0016905,0.008263,1.58E-05,0.0037552,-0.0036894,-0.0044919,-0.00102,-0.0007548,-0.0001054,-0.000509
Imperial_Roman,0.10927,0.155376,-0.006788,-0.044897,0.020619,-0.01757,0.011045,0.001846,0.01084,0.036994,0.00503 4,0.014387,-0.008474,0.001376,-0.004886,-0.005569,0.001565,0.002154,0.001508,-0.003377,0.007861,0.003091,-0.009367,-0.001807,0.007065
Imperial_Roman,0.105855,0.149283,-0.020365,-0.056202,-0.002462,-0.022869,-0.0047,-0.004154,0.006749,0.023691,0.003248,0.002847,-0.006244,-0.003716,0.000543,-0.01538,-0.019427,0.000253,-0.00176,-0.013757,-0.00574,0.006306,-0.002095,0.003494,-0.002275
Iberian_IA,0.126723,0.1533447,0.060088,0.0024763,0 .059806,0.000744,-0.00047,0.005461,0.035178,0.0490823,-0.0056297,0.0059447,-0.0244797,-0.0141293,0.0104053,-0.0026077,-0.0078667,0.0054477,-0.005908,-0.0014173,0.0136423,-4.13E-05,-0.0110103,-0.0125317,8.00E-05
Iberian_IA,0.1258262,0.1492827,0.0583851,0.0049625 ,0.0602349,-0.0044623,-0.0022645,0.0031048,0.0336535,0.0464537,-0.0050636,0.0132018,-0.0238533,-0.0138374,0.0089698,0.0056533,0.006626,0.0005185,0 .0040911,-0.0026263,0.0052294,-0.0004945,-0.0051203,-0.0136163,-0.0022753
Iberian_IA,0.1252055,0.1477595,0.066939,0.0121125, 0.0604725,0.0046015,-0.002585,0.0040385,0.026179,0.033896,-0.0002435,0.0095165,-0.0165015,-0.0088075,0.009772,-0.0012595,-0.0099745,-0.000317,0.002514,-0.0046275,0.008485,0.0037715,-0.006347,-0.0103625,-0.0072445
Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy,0.1279878,0.1496778,0.05 24828,0.007411,0.0492228,0.0017196,0.0017495,0.004 5253,0.0188617,0.02527,-0.0022463,0.0097328,-0.0129007,-0.004771,0.0025938,-0.004103,-0.0062513,0.0034979,0.0039385,-0.0037103,0.0030779,0.0019716,-0.0035945,-0.0043644,-0.0033995
Germanic,0.1338054,0.1306648,0.0748793,0.0617289,0 .0426402,0.0228999,0.0064497,0.0090509,0.0044313,-0.0097799,-0.0055754,0.0043628,-0.0075322,-0.0035782,0.0185939,0.0097821,0.0003331,0.0006194, 0.0015783,0.0051273,0.0096914,0.0033112,-0.0003833,0.0126927,-0.0005987
Germanic,0.1314658,0.1373502,0.0626022,0.0414247,0 .0426232,0.0146418,0.00376,0.0074422,0.0043975,-0.0009113,-0.0062925,0.0053578,-0.0145315,-0.0092552,0.0231742,0.0089828,-0.0034225,0.003199,0.004588,0.0073472,0.0083915,0. 0029988,-0.0017565,0.0143692,0.0003892
North_African,-0.041204,0.1322218,-0.0036956,-0.0673132,0.033237,-0.0350846,-0.0358158,0.0107994,0.068352,0.0342604,0.009581,-0.0063242,0.017542,-0.0183864,0.0226924,-0.0134178,0.0005736,-0.0164696,-0.0460558,0.0120058,-0.0134012,-0.036824,0.0238854,-0.002193,0.003736
North_African,-0.069432,0.146236,0.003394,-0.073644,0.033237,-0.04016,-0.031256,0.006461,0.091627,0.033349,0.010555,-0.012139,0.02334,-0.01679,0.022122,-0.017104,0.001434,-0.025718,-0.053924,0.006878,-0.020464,-0.045381,0.023417,-0.015062,0.014609

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 12:10 AM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.4566% / 0.01456560
55.4 Iberian_IA
34.0 Imperial_Roman
10.6 Germanic

Damião de Góis
01-15-2024, 12:13 AM
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.1757% / 0.02175707
36.2 Iberian_IA
30.2 Germanic
24.0 Imperial_Roman
9.6 North_African

I don't think the current Iberian_IA (basque) sample is right for me, so other components are probably inflated.

Laredo
01-15-2024, 12:15 AM
Target: Laredo_scaled
Distance: 25.4832% / 0.25483187
60.0 Germanic
34.6 North_African
5.4 Imperial_Roman

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 12:21 AM
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.1757% / 0.02175707
36.2 Iberian_IA
30.2 Germanic
24.0 Imperial_Roman
9.6 North_African

I don't think the current Iberian_IA (basque) sample is right for me, so other components are probably inflated.

There's no "right for you in this context, since the Iberian peninsula was basically "basque" (with maybe some more Celtic shit in some areas) before roman influence (which is what this calculator is addressing), but one thing that might have happened is that more of your Celtic DNA is being read as Germanic.

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 12:22 AM
Target: Laredo_scaled
Distance: 25.4832% / 0.25483187
60.0 Germanic
34.6 North_African
5.4 Imperial_Roman

This is pointless.

Damião de Góis
01-15-2024, 12:26 AM
There's no "right for you in this context, since the Iberian peninsula was basically "basque" (with maybe some more Celtic shit in some areas)

A lot of regions haven't been sampled enough for us to know that, for example Portugal region has zero samples from right before roman influence.

Laredo
01-15-2024, 12:28 AM
This is pointless.

How Is "it pointless " I wasn't really gonna posted but I was just curious about the European side, the fact It gave me so much Germanic that's why I decided to shared.

Mind to collaborate?

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 12:34 AM
How Is "it pointless " I wasn't really gonna posted but I was just curious about the European side, the fact It gave me so much Germanic that's why I decided to shared.

Mind to collaborate?

That's not the european side it's an emulation of you whole mix using european samples.
You can use these samples and also store them for later. ;)


SSA:Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
SSA:Nyaneka,-0.6262898,0.0636658,0.0210025,0.0169202,-0.000213,0.0095253,-0.0095993,0.0182299,-0.031544,0.0147751,0.0016237,-0.0015793,-0.003625,0.0006881,-0.0091142,0.0065684,-0.0032295,0.0092969,-0.0059465,0.0045695,0.0008926,-0.0006943,0.0010713,-0.0002873,0.0004973
Amerindian:Mixe,0.0578222,-0.3207042,0.1230168,0.0943806,-0.1073434,-0.015562,-0.2782054,-0.3340476,-0.012026,-0.0146882,-0.0071126,-0.0065642,0.0044598,0.0202028,-0.0087946,0.004004,0.006102,0.0004564,-0.0004526,-0.0036016,0.0011732,0.0058612,0.0034018,-0.0017108,-0.0018442
Amerindian:Amerindian_North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 12:36 AM
A lot of regions haven't been sampled enough for us to know that, for example Portugal region has zero samples from right before roman influence.

Although that's tecnically right, theres's no need to think that the west is going to be totally different from all the surrounding regions.

Jingle Bell
01-15-2024, 01:01 AM
Although that's tecnically right, theres's no need to think that the west is going to be totally different from all the surrounding regions.

West/Gallaecia/Lusitania were the part of Iberia with less contact with others "Low-Steppe" groups like Iberis or Vasconi, they preserved a very strong Hallsttat origin, and from the little we know they would be a bit more Steppe shfted than Celtiberis, we got the Conimbriga & Miroiço samples, which are Hispano-Roman samples from areas either Lusitani or Celtic habited, and even Conimbriga having abt to 20% Roman + NA & Miroiço about 40% they still scored more or at least abt Steppe as Celtiberi samples scored, my guess is as Miroico & Conumbriga are Roman/NA admixed and even with that scored ~28% Steppe, the "pure" Pre-Roman habitants of that area would be abt 30%+ imo, prob clustering some what Occitane or Northern Italy unlike more EEF shifted Basques, and its also important to remenber that Portuguese (better saying Galegus-Portugues) originated in Northern Galicia and that reconquistadores/settlers migrated south and most Portugueses prob descends more from that guys rather than the Muladi Pre-Reconquista population, so the "Celt" of that Portugueses descends are more likely part of Castro Culture/Gallaeci complex, that were more Hallstattized (at least culturally) than Lusitanians so thats also indicated that MAY also were more Central European loaded, but who knows

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 01:14 AM
West/Gallaecia/Lusitania were the part of Iberia with less contact with others "Low-Steppe" groups like Iberis or Vasconi, they preserved a very strong Hallsttat origin, and from the little we know they would be a bit more Steppe shfted than Celtiberis, we got the Conimbriga & Miroiço samples, which are Hispano-Roman samples from areas either Lusitani or Celtic habited, and even Conimbriga having abt to 20% Roman + NA & Miroiço about 40% they still scored more or at least abt Steppe as Celtiberi samples scored, my guess is as Miroico & Conumbriga are Roman/NA admixed and even with that scored ~28% Steppe, the "pure" Pre-Roman habitants of that area would be abt 30%+ imo, prob clustering some what Occitane or Northern Italy unlike more EEF shifted Basques, and its also important to remenber that Portuguese (better saying Galegus-Portugues) originated in Northern Galicia and that reconquistadores/settlers migrated south and most Portugueses prob descends more from that guys rather than the Muladi Pre-Reconquista population, so the "Celt" of that Portugueses descends are more likely part of Castro Culture/Gallaeci complex, that were more Hallstattized (at least culturally) than Lusitanians so thats also indicated that MAY also were more Central European loaded, but who knows

Yeah, I know but they most likely weren't 35-40% yamnaya, they were probably more similar to this sample already present in the calculator, but a bit higher:

Target: Iberian_IA
Distance: 4.4102% / 0.04410245
54.0 ANF
27.4 Yamnaya
18.6 WHG

It's the one labeled as Spain_IA_Celt, there's also this other sample that I could've introduced as well:

Target: Spain_IA_Celt_o
Distance: 6.2328% / 0.06232808
54.6 ANF
29.2 Yamnaya
15.4 WHG
0.8 AASI

Jingle Bell
01-15-2024, 01:15 AM
Yeah, I know but they most likely weren't 35-40% yamnaya, they were probably more similar to this sample already present in the calculator, but a bit higher:

Target: Iberian_IA
Distance: 4.4102% / 0.04410245
54.0 ANF
27.4 Yamnaya
18.6 WHG

It's the one labeled as Spain_IA_Celt, there's also this other sample that I could've introduced as well:

Target: Spain_IA_Celt_o
Distance: 6.2328% / 0.06232808
54.6 ANF
29.2 Yamnaya
15.4 WHG
0.8 AASI

No, 35% - 40% is Gaul level, i think 30% - 33% sounds nice, like abt or a bit more than modern portuguese score

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 01:24 AM
No, 35% - 40% is Gaul level, i think 30% - 33% sounds nice, like abt or a bit more than modern portuguese score

I did a proxy with the Austrian_IA_LaTene and the Spain_IA_Celt samples, and now it's there, my results didn't change, so I won't update them.

ScandinavianCelt
01-15-2024, 01:28 AM
Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.3815% / 0.02381493
83.6 Germanic
16.4 Imperial_Roman

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 01:28 AM
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.1757% / 0.02175707
36.2 Iberian_IA
30.2 Germanic
24.0 Imperial_Roman
9.6 North_African

I don't think the current Iberian_IA (basque) sample is right for me, so other components are probably inflated.

Now you can test with a more appropriate Iberian_IA profile, since the Gallaecian proxy is now added.

Jingle Bell
01-15-2024, 01:36 AM
For those wondering the results in qpAdm:
https://i.imgur.com/j2YKGqg.png (Not all models have actually passed, meaning that some component is lacking or smth)
https://i.imgur.com/mwSSkWZ.png
As its visible in Article the average would be about 50% Iberian, 45% Roman & 5% Northern African, no Germanic samples were used so we dont know if they would score.

Also @eupator (Here the link of his thread:https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?379980-g25-VS-qpadm-admixtools2-comparison/page3, credits to him for making the model)
did a 3-way model using similar samples, but at target "Conimbriga, MonteDaNora, Miroiço and Miroiço_O", and the results are pretty similar to what we see in article:

in g25 with @Eurafricanid model the same groups used as target as in article result (just the groups that actually passed in 3-way model)https://i.imgur.com/LGnbU2M.png
Without Germanic:
https://i.imgur.com/GBj4odm.png

Jingle Bell
01-15-2024, 01:37 AM
Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.5008% / 0.01500776
44.8 SSA
26.4 Iberian_IA
16.4 Imperial_Roman
6.0 North_African
3.8 Germanic
2.6 Amerindian

Eurafricanid
01-15-2024, 01:56 AM
Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.5008% / 0.01500776
44.8 SSA
26.4 Iberian_IA
16.4 Imperial_Roman
6.0 North_African
3.8 Germanic
2.6 Amerindian


Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 0.7189% / 0.00718946
47.2 SSA
28.4 Iberian_IA
16.8 Imperial_Roman
4.8 Germanic
2.8 Amerindian


Bruh!

celticdragongod
01-15-2024, 01:59 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02375461 Germanic
0.03372748 Germanic
0.06665448 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.07231842 Iberian_IA
0.09018698 Iberian_IA
0.09212197 Iberian_IA
0.14118973 Imperial_Roman
0.15761756 Imperial_Roman
0.15839769 Imperial_Roman
0.16913060 Imperial_Roman
0.17159190 Imperial_Roman
0.25578916 North_African
0.29024568 North_African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2645% / 0.02264503
59.2 Germanic
35.8 Germanic
4.2 Imperial_Roman
0.8 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy

vader
01-15-2024, 02:25 AM
Target: AncestryDNAandMe_scaled
Distance: 1.9549% / 0.01954940
49.2 Iberian_IA
21.8 Imperial_Roman
16.6 Germanic
12.4 North_African

Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.4493% / 0.01449295
49.4 Iberian_IA
23.4 Germanic
13.8 North_African
13.4 Imperial_Roman

Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.2403% / 0.02240303
56.8 Iberian_IA
17.0 Imperial_Roman
13.4 Germanic
12.8 North_African

ScandinavianCelt
01-15-2024, 02:46 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02375461 Germanic
0.03372748 Germanic
0.06665448 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.07231842 Iberian_IA
0.09018698 Iberian_IA
0.09212197 Iberian_IA
0.14118973 Imperial_Roman
0.15761756 Imperial_Roman
0.15839769 Imperial_Roman
0.16913060 Imperial_Roman
0.17159190 Imperial_Roman
0.25578916 North_African
0.29024568 North_African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2645% / 0.02264503
59.2 Germanic
35.8 Germanic
4.2 Imperial_Roman
0.8 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy

Which Germanic (1st or 2nd listed) do you get more of? I'm guessing the 2nd.

alnortedelsur
01-15-2024, 04:40 AM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.6660% / 0.01665959
45.0 Iberian_IA
27.0 Imperial_Roman
8.6 Germanic
8.4 North_African
7.2 Amerindian
3.8 Western_African



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08822552 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.09510123 Iberian_IA
0.09871835 Iberian_IA
0.10148277 Iberian_IA
0.10156112 Imperial_Roman
0.10461952 Imperial_Roman
0.10978837 Germanic
0.11049222 Imperial_Roman
0.11688087 Imperial_Roman
0.11874737 Imperial_Roman
0.12691977 Germanic
0.17208011 North_African
0.20759886 North_African
0.62308778 Amerindian
0.70355223 Western_African


Without Amerindian and SSA references:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2022% / 0.05202188
32.6 Germanic
26.2 Imperial_Roman
25.4 North_African
15.8 Iberian_IA

Beowulf
01-15-2024, 06:59 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0145% / 0.01445863
37.1 Iberian_IA
35.3 Germanic
26.3 Imperial_Roman
1.3 North_African

Pedro Ruben
01-15-2024, 10:41 AM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.7200% / 0.01720007
35.6 Iberian_IA
25.8 Germanic
21.8 Imperial_Roman
16.8 North_African

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9165% / 0.01916503
52.4 Iberian_IA
22.8 North_African
14.0 Germanic
10.8 Imperial_Roman

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.8894% / 0.01889439
38.6 Iberian_IA
35.2 Germanic
15.8 North_African
10.4 Imperial_Roman

Damião de Góis
01-15-2024, 07:03 PM
Now you can test with a more appropriate Iberian_IA profile, since the Gallaecian proxy is now added.

Thanks for adding but it doesn't change much for me. Your sample is an aproximate, because nothing of the sort exists yet:


Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.1706% / 0.02170554
40.0 Iberian_IA
28.8 Germanic
21.4 Imperial_Roman
9.8 North_African

I actually got less of it than the Northeast Iberian IA samples:

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.1706% / 0.02170554
22.8 Germanic
21.4 Imperial_Roman
15.2 Iberian_IA
13.4 Iberian_IA
11.4 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
9.8 North_African
6.0 Germanic

alexmegas777
01-15-2024, 07:19 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 3.1423% / 0.03142334
37.8 Imperial_Roman
36.8 Germanic
25.4 Iberian_IA

celticdragongod
01-15-2024, 08:10 PM
Which Germanic (1st or 2nd listed) do you get more of? I'm guessing the 2nd.

I'm not sure. They are both listed with the same label. Which population does the second one represent?

ScandinavianCelt
01-15-2024, 08:34 PM
I'm not sure. They are both listed with the same label. Which population does the second one represent?

2nd one down in his list; just label them in Source 1 & 2. One shifts NE, one NW.

celticdragongod
01-16-2024, 12:13 AM
2nd one down in his list; just label them in Source 1 & 2. One shifts NE, one NW.

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02375461 Germanic2
0.03372748 Germanic1
0.06665448 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.07231842 Iberian_IA
0.09018698 Iberian_IA
0.09212197 Iberian_IA
0.14118973 Imperial_Roman
0.15761756 Imperial_Roman
0.15839769 Imperial_Roman
0.16913060 Imperial_Roman
0.17159190 Imperial_Roman
0.25578916 North_African
0.29024568 North_African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2645% / 0.02264503
59.2 Germanic2
35.8 Germanic1
4.2 Imperial_Roman
0.8 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy

Apparently I am more closely related to the second Germanic in the list than the first one.

Nelju
01-16-2024, 12:32 AM
<tbody>
Target: Nelju_scaled
Distance: 2.4671% / 0.02467086




42.2
Amerindian


22.2
Iberian_IA


14.8
Imperial_Roman


9.6
Germanic


5.8
SSA


5.4
North_African



</tbody>

Laredo
01-16-2024, 12:39 AM
<tbody>
Target: Nelju_scaled
Distance: 2.4671% / 0.02467086




42.2
Amerindian


22.2
Iberian_IA


14.8
Imperial_Roman


9.6
Germanic


5.8
SSA


5.4
North_African



</tbody>

What part of Venezuela you are?

Nelju
01-16-2024, 12:41 AM
Andes.

vader
01-16-2024, 12:45 AM
Target: Fiancee_scaled
Distance: 1.7753% / 0.01775339
48.6 Southern_Amerindian
28.8 Iberian_IA
15.6 Imperial_Roman
4.2 Yoruba
2.2 Germanic
0.6 North_African

Laredo
01-16-2024, 12:50 AM
Target: Fiancee_scaled
Distance: 1.7753% / 0.01775339
48.6 Southern_Amerindian
28.8 Iberian_IA
15.6 Imperial_Roman
4.2 Yoruba
2.2 Germanic
0.6 North_African

How much African does she normally scores? I normally scored 3% consistent.

vader
01-16-2024, 12:52 AM
How much African does she normally scores? I normally scored 3% consistent.

she gets 3% on 23andMe, and 2% on ancestrydna.

Laredo
01-16-2024, 12:54 AM
she gets 3% on 23andMe, and 2% on ancestrydna.

Would you say over all these calculaters matches her 23andme or ancestry dna results? I'm using my ancestry dna raw data for this.

vader
01-16-2024, 12:58 AM
Would you say over all these calculaters matches her 23andme or ancestry dna results? I'm using my ancestry dna raw data for this.

typically g25 calcs have her around 3-4% ssa. This is her ancestrydna btw.

DomitiusAurelian
01-16-2024, 01:37 AM
Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 2.4672% / 0.02467226
71.6 Imperial_Roman
28.4 Turkic

Eurafricanid
01-16-2024, 01:41 AM
2nd one down in his list; just label them in Source 1 & 2. One shifts NE, one NW.

The first one is Gothic and the second is Longobard (to represent the Suebi), interestingly I only match the first one.

Kenshiro
01-16-2024, 10:21 AM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.4820% / 0.02481974
66.8 Imperial_Roman
17.2 Germanic
15.4 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.6 Iberian_IA
I'm not Iberian but look very cool calculator

JerryS.
01-16-2024, 11:32 AM
Not meant for me, but for fun.

Original model.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7074% / 0.01707398
87.8 Germanic
10.4 Imperial_Roman
1.8 Iberian_IA

Additions from post#9

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7016% / 0.01701584
88.0 Germanic
10.4 Imperial_Roman
1.4 Iberian_IA
0.2 SSA

What's the different Imperials represent?

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7016% / 0.01701584
61.4 Germanic2
26.6 Germanic1
8.4 Imperial_Roman1
1.4 Iberian_IA
1.2 Imperial_Roman4
0.8 Imperial_Roman2
0.2 SSA

Gallop
01-16-2024, 01:38 PM
I was doing a job at the AI about what Andalusian women were like in Roman times and when I arrived in Seville everything was going well when the AI whore gave me a Roman woman who was my female version, but if I hadn't even put a predetermined photo, I was dead, it was a woman of hispalis. The curious thing is that my town belonged until a couple of centuries ago to the city of Seville, that is, my great-great-grandparents were Sevillians, then for practical reasons it was ceded to the province of Cadiz, so there is that curious connection with the city of Seville, ancient Hispalis. I have a special connection with AI truly.

PS. A wealthy, upper-class lady, of course. Maybe it's an ancestor, I don't really know.

Athalafuns
03-21-2024, 07:52 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.6028% / 0.01602751
43.6 Iberian_IA
28.8 Germanic
19.2 Imperial_Roman
8.4 North_African

Solitude
03-22-2024, 01:56 AM
There's no "right for you in this context, since the Iberian peninsula was basically "basque" (with maybe some more Celtic shit in some areas) before roman influence (which is what this calculator is addressing), but one thing that might have happened is that more of your Celtic DNA is being read as Germanic.

To desanimado , não consigo puxar celta nessas ancient calcs até naquela final iberian e tambem outras que tem celtas e germanicos , porque será? , ja tentei scaled e unscaled e não muda , acho que so puxei em 1 e foi muito pouco , meus resultados so é lido como a parte iberica ,germanica e romana , os celtas é uma das culturas que eu mais gosto mas parece que meu dna não tem nada deles :/

MBVC
03-22-2024, 07:15 AM
Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0250% / 0.02501086
57.6 North_African
40.0 Imperial_Roman
2.4 Germanic

Eurafricanid
03-25-2024, 04:27 PM
To desanimado , não consigo puxar celta nessas ancient calcs até naquela final iberian e tambem outras que tem celtas e germanicos , porque será? , ja tentei scaled e unscaled e não muda , acho que so puxei em 1 e foi muito pouco , meus resultados so é lido como a parte iberica ,germanica e romana , os celtas é uma das culturas que eu mais gosto mas parece que meu dna não tem nada deles :/

Com indivíduos mistos geneticamente os componentes podem agir de maneira diferente e interagir diferentemente entre eles, e tbm o seu Celta está sendo lido como germânico, sendo que é praticamente impossível que um ibérico não tenha nenhum DNA Celta.

Solitude
03-25-2024, 04:46 PM
Com indivíduos mistos geneticamente os componentes podem agir de maneira diferente e interagir diferentemente entre eles, e tbm o seu Celta está sendo lido como germânico, sendo que é praticamente impossível que um ibérico não tenha nenhum DNA Celta.

Antes de ontem eu recebi minha nova coordenada do illustrative com outra raw data e ja ficou bem melhor , agora aparece proto-celta e pre-proto-celta

Target: NightmareCity2_scaled
Distance: 1.0546% / 0.01054568
27.4 Iberia_BA
23.8 SSA
15.4 Germanic_Ruler
9.0 Imperial_Romans
7.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
4.8 Proto-Celts
4.4 Amerindian
4.2 Native_Brazilian
1.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
0.8 Karitiana
0.8 South_Amerindian

CeltiberoGermanico
02-01-2025, 09:38 PM
Target: Yo_scaled
Distance: 0.9203% / 0.00920304
77.0 Iberian_IA
13.8 Germanic
4.8 Imperial_Roman
4.4 North_African

Mopi The Dire Wolf
02-02-2025, 05:49 AM
Target: Mopster_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.2187% / 0.01218684
40.8 Germanic
35.0 Iberian_IA
24.0 Imperial_Roman
0.2 North_African


Distance to: Mopster_simulated_g25_scaled
0.02722972 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.04543983 Iberian_IA
0.04955093 Germanic
0.05429417 Iberian_IA
0.05875750 Iberian_IA
0.07287434 Germanic
0.09259898 Imperial_Roman
0.11275286 Imperial_Roman
0.11411656 Imperial_Roman
0.12623566 Imperial_Roman
0.12708972 Imperial_Roman
0.22284209 North_African
0.25822062 North_African

Rafael Passoni
02-02-2025, 07:53 AM
Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 2.7072% / 0.02707154
60.0 Iberian_IA
40.0 Imperial_Roman

CeltiberoGermanico
02-05-2025, 07:13 PM
Target: MAMA_scaled
Distance: 2.2082% / 0.02208242
55.4 Iberian_IA
21.0 Germanic
15.0 Imperial_Roman
8.6 North_African

Target: PAPA_scaled
Distance: 2.1973% / 0.02197255
96.0 Iberian_IA
3.0 Germanic
1.0 Imperial_Roman

Target: Yo_scaled
Distance: 1.1569% / 0.01156898
82.0 Iberian_IA
7.6 Germanic
5.4 Imperial_Roman
5.0 North_African