Log in

View Full Version : kessaras's MyOrigins Results.



Kess
01-20-2024, 11:36 AM
1/2 Turkish
1/2 Karachay

Any suggestion for how I can use my raw data is appreciated.

my results:

126149

126150

What surprised me most: %0 Greece and Balkans, %5 Sephardic Jewish, %2 Myanmar and %0 North Caucasus.

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 11:38 AM
Congrats you finally got 'em :)

Kess
01-20-2024, 11:40 AM
Congrats you finally got 'em :)

Thanks. How I got %2 Myanmar I really don't know.

Mr. M
01-20-2024, 11:41 AM
You can upload your raw data to Gedmatch and share some calc results

https://www.gedmatch.com/

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 11:42 AM
Thanks. How I got %2 Myanmar I really don't know.

Probably East Asian noise? I'm not sure

Anyways you asked were would we reccomend where you can use your raw data, perdonally i'd reccomend you to put It in Gedmatch and illustrative DNA (that's where you get the real G25 coords)

Kess
01-20-2024, 12:00 PM
Probably East Asian noise? I'm not sure

Anyways you asked were would we reccomend where you can use your raw data, perdonally i'd reccomend you to put It in Gedmatch and illustrative DNA (that's were you get the real G25 coords)

Thanks.

Kess
01-20-2024, 12:03 PM
You can upload your raw data to Gedmatch and share some calc results

https://www.gedmatch.com/

WARNING
Chromosome number out of range: 0
File does not contain any X-DNA data


Should I ignore these warnings?

eastern
01-20-2024, 12:30 PM
Definitely use GEDMatch.com, ignore the warnings. Note that different calculators give different results as they are interpreted differently. There are a lot of GEDMatch tutorials on youtube in case you find it confusing to navigate through.

Mortimer
01-20-2024, 12:36 PM
What is karachay? Congrats on your results

Kess
01-20-2024, 12:58 PM
Definitely use GEDMatch.com, ignore the warnings. Note that different calculators give different results as they are interpreted differently. There are a lot of GEDMatch tutorials on youtube in case you find it confusing to navigate through.

Thanks I am going to ignore it and upload it.

Katarzyna
01-20-2024, 12:59 PM
Most important question: What is your haplogroup?

Kess
01-20-2024, 12:59 PM
What is karachay? Congrats on your results

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachays

Kess
01-20-2024, 01:00 PM
Most important question: What is your haplogroup?

I still don’t know. I haven’t received it yet along with my ancient origins.

Katarzyna
01-20-2024, 01:03 PM
I still don’t know. I haven’t received it yet along with my ancient origins.

Then upload your raw data into this haplogroup predictor:

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Kess
01-20-2024, 01:14 PM
Then upload your raw data into this haplogroup predictor:

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Couldn't determine the format of your data. Could you please answer these questions?

How are no-calls represented in your data?
0 (AncestryDNA uses this)
-- (23andMe and MyHeritage use this)
Other (please specify)

How is the Y chromosome represented in your data?
Chromosome 24 (AncestryDNA uses this)
Y (23andMe and MyHeritage use this)
chrY
Other (please specify)

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 01:30 PM
I still don’t know. I haven’t received it yet along with my ancient origins.

Try Cladefinder.com it's more updated than MorleyDNA

Kess
01-20-2024, 01:37 PM
Try Cladefinder.com it's more updated than MorleyDNA

unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs.

Katarzyna
01-20-2024, 01:39 PM
unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs.

Which dna Test Company did you use for your raw data?

Kess
01-20-2024, 01:42 PM
Which dna Test Company did you use for your raw data?

FTDNA.

Katarzyna
01-20-2024, 01:43 PM
FTDNA.

Then you have enough snps for Y dna. But in order to use clade finder you need to first transform your raw data into 23and me format.
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

Kess
01-20-2024, 01:45 PM
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

Yes, I need help.

Leto
01-20-2024, 02:00 PM
Are you actually half Karachay-Balkar from the North Caucasus? Karachay and Balkar are the same thing. And they have a relatively high frequency of R1a (about 25%).

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 02:06 PM
Then you have enough snps for Y dna. But in order to use clade finder you need to first transform your raw data into 23and me format.
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

My raw data is from FTDNA and i didn't needed to convert It, so strange.

rothaer
01-20-2024, 02:07 PM
Then you have enough snps for Y dna. But in order to use clade finder you need to first transform your raw data into 23and me format.
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

Maybe not. The state before this new thing telling the YDNA was that FTDNA removed (sic! (= sick!)) all YDNA SNPs from the data. I don't know the current state of the raw data, do you?

Kess
01-20-2024, 02:09 PM
Are you actually half Karachay-Balkar from the North Caucasus?

Yes, my mother's native tongue is Karachay-Balkar, and they always call themselves "Karachayli." I actually don't know if there is a difference between Karachay and Balkar. She learned Turkish at school. My father's side is not Karachay-Balkar; it's Turkish, though.

Is DNA testing popular in Russia? My match list is full of people with Russianized names, such as Khusainov. My matches seem full of Karachay-Balkar people. Turkish is very few compared to them.

Leto
01-20-2024, 02:16 PM
Yes, my mother's native tongue is Karachay-Balkar, and they always call themselves "Karachayli." I actually don't know if there is a difference between Karachay and Balkar. She learned Turkish at school. My father's side is not Karachay-Balkar; it's Turkish, though.

Is DNA testing popular in Russia? My match list is full of people with Russianized names, such as Khusainov. My matches seem full of Karachay-Balkar people. Turkish is very few compared to them.
Well, Karachay-Balkar is a Turkic language, so assimilation in Turkey would not be difficult at all.
Yes, DNA in Russia is not rare, there's even a Russian DNA testing company called Genotek. There are quite a few Northwestern Caucasians on GEDmatch, I've seen dozens of them.

Kess
01-20-2024, 03:16 PM
My raw data is from FTDNA and i didn't needed to convert It, so strange.

Beowulf mate by the way, Did you score Sephardic Jew on FTDNA? I'm asking because you are a Spaniard.

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 03:24 PM
Beowulf mate by the way, Did you score Sephardic Jew on FTDNA? I'm asking because you are a Spaniard.

Not me but my mom did, she scores >1%

Kess
01-20-2024, 03:24 PM
Well, Karachay-Balkar is a Turkic language, so assimilation in Turkey would not be difficult at all.

Yes, Even though it's more similar to Crimean Tatar, it's still very similar to Turkish.


Yes, DNA in Russia is not rare, there's even a Russian DNA testing company called Genotek. There are quite a few Northwestern Caucasians on GEDmatch, I've seen dozens of them.

My closest relative on FTDNA is a Karachay American living in New Jersey. When I told her about him, she said that he's my mom's relative, both from her maternal and paternal sides. My biggest surprise is that he didn't score any North Caucasus.

His score:

Anatolia %2
Southern Levant %3
Southern Caucasus %79
East Slavic %5
Myanmar %1
Mongolia %6
Japan %1
Northern India %1

His Y-DNA: G-FT286824
His mtDNA: U1b2

Kess
01-20-2024, 03:30 PM
Not me but my mom did, she scores >1%

Did you see any Turkish results with Sephardic Jew results like mine? It's very interesting because a large number of Sephardic Jews emigrated to the Ottoman Empire in the past. Because of that, it really made me wonder: do I really have a Sephardic Jew ancestor, or is it a somewhat off interpretation?

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 03:32 PM
Did you see any Turkish results with Sephardic Jew results like mine? It's very interesting because a large number of Sephardic Jews emigrated to the Ottoman Empire in the past. Because of that, it really made me wonder: do I really have a Sephardic Jew ancestor, or is it a somewhat off interpretation?

I Saw some getting sephardic jewish from Turkey, you might have some jewish ancestry, but what about your DNA matches? Do you jewish DNA coincidences there?

Kess
01-20-2024, 03:38 PM
I Saw some getting sephardic jewish from Turkey, you might have some jewish ancestry, but what about your DNA matches? Do you jewish DNA coincidences there?

My matches are predominantly people from the Caucasus, but there are some European matches too. I really have a small number of Turkish matches, which is interesting. I don't know if those European matches are Jewish. On my match list, there is a woman who carries the same surname as my aunt's husband. I am going to contact them. My aunt's husband is also a distant relative of our family.

Beowulf
01-20-2024, 03:40 PM
My matches are predominantly people from the Caucasus, but there are some European matches too. I really have a small number of Turkish matches, which is interesting. I don't know if those European matches are Jewish. On my match list, there is a woman who carries the same surname as my aunt's husband. I am going to contact them. My aunt's husband is also a distant relative of our family.

You can upload your raw data to MH not for their results but you can get free acces to the DNA matches their database is bigger and It was very helpful with my own family tree my problem with FTDNA is that the closest DNA matches are already quite distant with some few exceptions.

eastern
01-20-2024, 04:23 PM
Yes, Even though it's more similar to Crimean Tatar, it's still very similar to Turkish.



My closest relative on FTDNA is a Karachay American living in New Jersey. When I told her about him, she said that he's my mom's relative, both from her maternal and paternal sides. My biggest surprise is that he didn't score any North Caucasus.

His score:

Anatolia %2
Southern Levant %3
Southern Caucasus %79
East Slavic %5
Myanmar %1
Mongolia %6
Japan %1
Northern India %1

His Y-DNA: G-FT286824
His mtDNA: U1b2

He probably still is North Caucasus, its just that the calculator interpreted his DNA slightly different than yours, hence why he got classified as south caucasus.

Kess
01-20-2024, 05:00 PM
He probably still is North Caucasus, its just that the calculator interpreted his DNA slightly different than yours, hence why he got classified as south caucasus.

I didn't get North Caucasus same as him. Nevertheless, most Karachay matches on my list have more North Caucasus than South.

Annihilus
01-20-2024, 05:57 PM
Did you see any Turkish results with Sephardic Jew results like mine? It's very interesting because a large number of Sephardic Jews emigrated to the Ottoman Empire in the past. Because of that, it really made me wonder: do I really have a Sephardic Jew ancestor, or is it a somewhat off interpretation?

MyOrigins is really bad, just ignore it.

Kess
01-20-2024, 06:17 PM
MyOrigins is really bad, just ignore it.

You are right. My Dodecad K12b results highly correlate with my background.

126152

Two-way:

1. 30% Lipka_Tatar + 70% Turk_Southwestern_Caucasus @ 1.30815328
2. 53% Balkar + 47% Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 1.37542325
3. 43% Nogai_ShomishlyAs_1_Beshtau + 56% Turk_Southwestern_Caucasus @ 1.47769042
4. 54% Adygei + 46% Turk_Southwestern_Anatolia @ 1.49509688
5. 56% Kabardin + 43% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.50878013
6. 49% Adygei + 51% Turk_Western_Black_Sea_&_Northwestern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.51994897
7. 49% Balkar + 51% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.56000464
8. 56% Kabardin + 44% Turk_Eastern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.58800872
9. 64% Karachay + 36% Turk_Dodecanese @ 1.60934044
10. 67% Circassian + 33% Turk_Dodecanese @ 1.66190553
11. 56% Circassian + 43% Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 1.66763052
12. 54% Karachay + 46% Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 1.70211766
13. 56% Adygei + 43% Turk_Northwestern_Anatolia @ 1.70942852
14. 32% Nogai_Ming_1_Dagestan + 68% Turk_Southwestern_Caucasus @ 1.77719482
15. 45% Ossetian_South + 55% Turk_Northwestern_Anatolia @ 1.88696535
16. 46% Ossetian + 54% Turk_Western_Black_Sea_&_Northwestern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.90414278
17. 53% Circassian + 47% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.92855534
18. 48% Balkar + 52% Turk_Eastern_Central_Anatolia @ 2.0142245
19. 59% Ossetian + 41% Turk_Dodecanese @ 2.01673295
20. 51% Kumyk + 49% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 2.02438815

2. sonuç için tam bilmiş dedi mod.

Modern Populations:

1. Kabardin @ 6.05882
2. Circassian @ 7.128534
3. Turk_Central_Black_Sea_(Giresun_North_&_Ordu) @ 7.656292
4. Turk_Eastern_Central_Anatolia @ 7.72371
5. Kumyk @ 7.768591
6. Karachay @ 7.975444
7. Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 8.006298
8. Turk_Western_Black_Sea_(Kastamonu_&_Sinop) @ 8.142014
9. Balkar @ 8.268198
10. Turk_Western_Black_Sea_&_Northwestern_Central_Anatolia @ 8.382732
11. Adygei @ 8.553175
12. Azerbaijani_Qakh-Zaqatala @ 8.58869
13. Turk_Central_Black_Sea_(Giresun_South) @ 8.672191
14. DA162_Alan @ 9.22566
15. Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 9.34486
16. Azerbaijani_Shaki @ 9.367732
17. Ingush @ 9.458478
18. Turk_Southern_Anatolia_(Mersin_&_Adana) @ 9.634283
19. Azerbaijani_Kur-Aras @ 9.673567
20. Azerbaijani_Absheron @ 9.697938

Feiichy
01-20-2024, 06:20 PM
Congrats on your results. Sephardic Jewish can represent your native Anatolian/West Asian ancestry, it's not necessarily real (although it could be). FTDNA is notorious for having their algorithm functioning like a gedmatch calculator.

Surprised you didn't get Y-DNA assigned yet, but you will, probaby very soon.

Leto
01-20-2024, 06:47 PM
You are right. My Dodecad K12b results highly correlate with my background.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.86
2 East_Med 21.73
3 North_Atlantic 9.85
4 Baltic 9.33
5 West_Med 9.09
6 Siberian 4.46
7 Red_Sea 2.95
8 South_Asian 2.82
9 East_Asian 2.16
10 Oceanian 0.89
11 Amerindian 0.86

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyk 7.35
2 Azeri 9.6
3 Turkish 9.88
4 Balkar 10.99
5 Adygei 11.63
6 Kabardin 11.73
7 Kurdish 13
8 Turkmen 13.26
9 Ossetian 13.38
10 North_Ossetian 13.46
11 Chechen 13.91
12 Lezgin 14.77
13 Iranian 14.82
14 Georgian 16.09
15 Armenian 16.35
16 Tabassaran 16.44
17 Georgian_Jewish 17.44
18 Nogay 17.53
19 Abhkasian 18.34
20 Assyrian 19.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80% Kumyk + 20% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.48
2 81.2% Kumyk + 18.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
3 59% Turkish + 41% Chechen @ 2.83
4 81.4% Kumyk + 18.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.93
5 81.6% Kumyk + 18.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.98
6 78.7% Kumyk + 21.3% South_Italian @ 2.99
7 63.3% Turkish + 36.7% Tabassaran @ 3.09
8 81.9% Kumyk + 18.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.14
9 58.5% Kumyk + 41.5% Turkish @ 3.15
10 67.2% North_Ossetian + 32.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.18
11 54.7% Turkish + 45.3% Kabardin @ 3.25
12 80.3% Kumyk + 19.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.27
13 80.8% Kumyk + 19.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.28
14 67.9% North_Ossetian + 32.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.31
15 71% Kabardin + 29% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.32
16 69.4% North_Ossetian + 30.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
17 78.8% Kumyk + 21.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.36
18 60.8% Turkish + 39.2% Lezgin @ 3.37
19 78.7% Kumyk + 21.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.38
20 72.4% Kabardin + 27.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.42
:D

Leto
01-20-2024, 06:54 PM
Here are your simulated G25 coordinates based on Euro K36. You can use them for the time being


kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled,0.104358,0.094494,-0.026902,-0.024230,-0.027269,-0.006168,0.006711,-0.002191,-0.035541,-0.015460,-0.000154,0.003855,-0.007180,0.004153,-0.002023,-0.006015,0.005416,-0.000978,-0.000256,0.005790,0.002783,-0.000638,0.003476,-0.000671,-0.000141

Laredo
01-20-2024, 07:01 PM
Congrats on your results. Sephardic Jewish can represent your native Anatolian/West Asian ancestry, it's not necessarily real (although it could be). FTDNA is notorious for having their algorithm functioning like a gedmatch calculator.

Surprised you didn't get Y-DNA assigned yet, but you will, probaby very soon.

I haven't got mine either, keep In mind I got tested with FTDNA late 2018 or Jan 2019 and still have not received mine. I should probably ask for a refund...

hazmatnik
01-20-2024, 07:04 PM
I haven't got mine either, keep In mind I got tested with FTDNA late 2018 or Jan 2019 and still have not received mine. I should probably ask for a refund...

This is beyond acceptable, i got mine and my maternal grandpa in 3 months in 2021 and 2022.

Laredo
01-20-2024, 07:07 PM
This is beyond acceptable, i got mine and my maternal grandpa in 3 months in 2021 and 2022.

It is... Any company business speaking should prioritized their oldest costumers you know :rolleyes:

Anyway as a Mexican I'm probably Rb1 paternal and an amerindian mtdna.

Demirkazık
01-20-2024, 07:08 PM
Güzel sonuçlar, K36 sonuçlarını kullanarak çakma G25 koordinatı simüle ettim sana. Konudan bağımsız kendi forum adını nasıl yanlış yazdın aga ? :dielaughing:


kessaras,0.107534,0.099010,-0.027084,-0.026269,-0.027630,-0.005816,0.006852,-0.001936,-0.036537,-0.016446,-0.000161,0.002407,-0.007269,0.005783,-0.002325,-0.007734,0.003737,-0.000477,0.000057,0.007157,0.004677,-0.002280,0.001725,-0.001748,0.001022


0.013 kessaras = 54% Cherkes + 46% Turkish_Kayseri
0.013 kessaras = 55% Adygei + 45% Turkish_Konya
0.014 kessaras = 50% Turkish_Elazig + 50% Balkar
0.015 kessaras = 54% Ingushian + 46% Turkish_Konya
0.015 kessaras = 52% Turkish_Nevsehir + 48% Balkar
0.015 kessaras = 50% Turkish_Kayseri + 50% Balkar
0.016 kessaras = 52% Karachay + 48% Turkish_Nevsehir
0.017 kessaras = 52% Karachay + 48% Turkish_Kayseri
0.017 kessaras = 55% Balkar + 45% Turkish_Karaman
0.019 kessaras = 55% Balkar + 45% Turkish_Konya

Voskos
01-20-2024, 07:16 PM
I find the Magyar part intriguing. Possible proof the old Magyars are originally Caucasian or just an overlap?

Demirkazık
01-20-2024, 07:26 PM
I find the Magyar part intriguing. Possible proof the old Magyars are originally Caucasian or just an overlap?

Magyar is something like West Slavic in MyOrigins, However maybe the Alans in Etelköz (c. 850 – c. 895) were somewhat half Caucasian like, idk.

Kess
01-20-2024, 08:27 PM
Güzel sonuçlar, K36 sonuçlarını kullanarak çakma G25 koordinatı simüle ettim sana. Konudan bağımsız kendi forum adını nasıl yanlış yazdın aga ? :dielaughing:


kessaras,0.107534,0.099010,-0.027084,-0.026269,-0.027630,-0.005816,0.006852,-0.001936,-0.036537,-0.016446,-0.000161,0.002407,-0.007269,0.005783,-0.002325,-0.007734,0.003737,-0.000477,0.000057,0.007157,0.004677,-0.002280,0.001725,-0.001748,0.001022


0.013 kessaras = 54% Cherkes + 46% Turkish_Kayseri
0.013 kessaras = 55% Adygei + 45% Turkish_Konya
0.014 kessaras = 50% Turkish_Elazig + 50% Balkar
0.015 kessaras = 54% Ingushian + 46% Turkish_Konya
0.015 kessaras = 52% Turkish_Nevsehir + 48% Balkar
0.015 kessaras = 50% Turkish_Kayseri + 50% Balkar
0.016 kessaras = 52% Karachay + 48% Turkish_Nevsehir
0.017 kessaras = 52% Karachay + 48% Turkish_Kayseri
0.017 kessaras = 55% Balkar + 45% Turkish_Karaman
0.019 kessaras = 55% Balkar + 45% Turkish_Konya

Eyvallah aga. Muhtemelen uykusuzluktan yanlış yazdım. Dün gece yatmadan bir bakayım dedim baktım matchlerim açıklanmış ama MyOrigins açıklanmamış ve 24 saat sonra tekrar bak diyor. Sırf onu bekledim ondan dolayı geç yattım. %50 Elazığ ilginç. Geri kalanları normal beklendik.

Kess
01-20-2024, 08:38 PM
I find the Magyar part intriguing. Possible proof the old Magyars are originally Caucasian or just an overlap?

In Dodecad, I have %7.92 East Eurasian. Apart from Myanmar and %2 Yakut the rest of my East Eurasian is probably in Magyar.

Kess
01-20-2024, 08:47 PM
.

Mesela senin Steppe Calculator gibi şeyleri bu çakma koordinatlarla nasıl kullanabilirim? Gerçek koordinatları da bir ara Davidski ya da IllustrativeDNA'dan edinmeyi düşünüyorum. Y-DNA'am filan gelsin senin açtığın konuya benzer bir konu açmayı düşünüyorum.

Kess
01-20-2024, 08:49 PM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.86
2 East_Med 21.73
3 North_Atlantic 9.85
4 Baltic 9.33
5 West_Med 9.09
6 Siberian 4.46
7 Red_Sea 2.95
8 South_Asian 2.82
9 East_Asian 2.16
10 Oceanian 0.89
11 Amerindian 0.86

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyk 7.35
2 Azeri 9.6
3 Turkish 9.88
4 Balkar 10.99
5 Adygei 11.63
6 Kabardin 11.73
7 Kurdish 13
8 Turkmen 13.26
9 Ossetian 13.38
10 North_Ossetian 13.46
11 Chechen 13.91
12 Lezgin 14.77
13 Iranian 14.82
14 Georgian 16.09
15 Armenian 16.35
16 Tabassaran 16.44
17 Georgian_Jewish 17.44
18 Nogay 17.53
19 Abhkasian 18.34
20 Assyrian 19.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80% Kumyk + 20% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.48
2 81.2% Kumyk + 18.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
3 59% Turkish + 41% Chechen @ 2.83
4 81.4% Kumyk + 18.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.93
5 81.6% Kumyk + 18.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.98
6 78.7% Kumyk + 21.3% South_Italian @ 2.99
7 63.3% Turkish + 36.7% Tabassaran @ 3.09
8 81.9% Kumyk + 18.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.14
9 58.5% Kumyk + 41.5% Turkish @ 3.15
10 67.2% North_Ossetian + 32.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.18
11 54.7% Turkish + 45.3% Kabardin @ 3.25
12 80.3% Kumyk + 19.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.27
13 80.8% Kumyk + 19.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.28
14 67.9% North_Ossetian + 32.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.31
15 71% Kabardin + 29% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.32
16 69.4% North_Ossetian + 30.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
17 78.8% Kumyk + 21.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.36
18 60.8% Turkish + 39.2% Lezgin @ 3.37
19 78.7% Kumyk + 21.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.38
20 72.4% Kabardin + 27.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.42
:D


Here are your simulated G25 coordinates based on Euro K36. You can use them for the time being


kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled,0.104358,0.094494,-0.026902,-0.024230,-0.027269,-0.006168,0.006711,-0.002191,-0.035541,-0.015460,-0.000154,0.003855,-0.007180,0.004153,-0.002023,-0.006015,0.005416,-0.000978,-0.000256,0.005790,0.002783,-0.000638,0.003476,-0.000671,-0.000141


Thanks.

Demirkazık
01-20-2024, 08:51 PM
Mesela senin Steppe Calculator gibi şeyleri bu çakma koordinatlarla nasıl kullanabilirim? Gerçek koordinatları da bir ara Davidski ya da IllustrativeDNA'dan edinmeyi düşünüyorum. Y-DNA'am filan gelsin senin açtığın konuya benzer bir konu açmayı düşünüyorum.

Güzel fikir, IllustrativeDNA süper bir şey. https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/ kullanarak source kısmına benim yaptığım hesaplayıcı zımbırtılarını kopyala, target kısmına da kendi koordinatlarını kopyala yapıştır yaptıktan sonra single dan kendi adının üstüne bas.

Kess
01-20-2024, 09:03 PM
Güzel fikir, IllustrativeDNA süper bir şey. https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/ kullanarak source kısmına benim yaptığım hesaplayıcı zımbırtılarını kopyala, target kısmına da kendi koordinatlarını kopyala yapıştır yaptıktan sonra single dan kendi adının üstüne bas.

MyHeritage free trial süresince raw data yükleyip sonuç almamıza izin veriyor mu?

Leto
01-20-2024, 09:07 PM
In Dodecad, I have %7.92 East Eurasian. Apart from Myanmar and %2 Yakut the rest of my East Eurasian is probably in Magyar.
Is your father from Western Turkey or Eastern? Karachays/Balkars usually score close to 10% but not higher.

Demirkazık
01-20-2024, 09:09 PM
MyHeritage free trial süresince raw data yükleyip sonuç almamıza izin veriyor mu?

Evet aga

Kess
01-20-2024, 09:14 PM
Is your father from Western Turkey or Eastern? Karachays/Balkars usually score close to 10% but not higher.

Western Central Anatolia and Western Mediterranean specifically. He's of Yörük descend.

Kess
01-20-2024, 10:13 PM
Deleted

Kess
01-20-2024, 11:10 PM
Evet aga

Aga şimdi benim Y-DNA eklenince raw datam da güncellenir mi FTDNA’da?

Demirkazık
01-20-2024, 11:17 PM
Aga şimdi benim Y-DNA eklenince raw datam da güncellenir mi FTDNA’da?

Aga raw datan güncellenmeyecek, onun yerine extra olaraktan Y-SNP indirme seçeneği geliyor. Y-DNA'n eklenince ana sayfanın sağ altlarına doğru rozet olarak eklenmiş olur, indirme kısmı da raw datanı indirdiğin yerin hemen sağında beliriyor.

Kess
01-20-2024, 11:34 PM
Aga raw datan güncellenmeyecek, onun yerine extra olaraktan Y-SNP indirme seçeneği geliyor. Y-DNA'n eklenince ana sayfanın sağ altlarına doğru rozet olarak eklenmiş olur, indirme kısmı da raw datanı indirdiğin yerin hemen sağında beliriyor.

O zaman ben myheritage'e raw datamı yükledim gitti. Bu arada bir daha FTDNA'dan raw data indiremiyorum.

DomitiusAurelian
01-21-2024, 12:37 AM
Target: kessaras
Distance: 2.6175% / 0.02617455
52.6 Caucasus
26.6 Anatolian
20.8 Turkic

Target: kessaras
Distance: 1.3377% / 0.01337702
52.4 Turkish
33.0 Georgian
13.8 Slavic
0.8 Iranian

Target: kessaras
Distance: 1.3377% / 0.01337702
33.8 Turkish:Turkish_Giresun
33.0 Georgian:Georgian_Javakheti
18.6 Turkish:Turkish_Erzurum
13.8 Slavic:Russian_Moscow
0.8 Iranian

Antik

Target: kessaras
Distance: 1.7652% / 0.01765210
50.0 Caucasus_KuraAraxes
23.6 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
20.2 Anatolian_IA
6.2 China_AmurRiver_N

Distance to: kessaras
0.02816504 Kumyk
0.02896292 Kabardin
0.02906875 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.02980485 Azerbaijani_Republic_Gabala
0.03032316 Tat_Azerbaijan
0.03106564 Azerbaijani_Republic_Shaki
0.03136908 Circassian
0.03154843 Cherkes
0.03216457 Tat_Dagestan_Nyugdi
0.03320923 Karachay
0.03371600 Turkish_Sivas
0.03410561 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.03446184 Adygei
0.03576785 Turkish_Kayseri
0.03591192 Balkar
0.03631717 Ingushian
0.03715984 Abazin
0.03849802 Tat_Dagestan_Dzhalgan
0.03975834 Andian_A
0.04057863 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04123080 Turkish_Konya
0.04146063 Georgian_Tush
0.04208831 Azerbaijani_Iran
0.04212027 Azerbaijani_Republic
0.04277867 Karata


İşin özü, Kafkasyan bir Anadolu Türk'üne kıyasla çok yüksek. Direkt Kuzey Kafkasyalı profiline sahipsin. %7-8'lik DA mirası direkt Karaçay ortalaması.

Kess
01-21-2024, 10:09 AM
Target: kessaras
Distance: 2.6175% / 0.02617455
52.6 Caucasus
26.6 Anatolian
20.8 Turkic

Target: kessaras
Distance: 1.3377% / 0.01337702
52.4 Turkish
33.0 Georgian
13.8 Slavic
0.8 Iranian

Target: kessaras
Distance: 1.3377% / 0.01337702
33.8 Turkish:Turkish_Giresun
33.0 Georgian:Georgian_Javakheti
18.6 Turkish:Turkish_Erzurum
13.8 Slavic:Russian_Moscow
0.8 Iranian

Antik

Target: kessaras
Distance: 1.7652% / 0.01765210
50.0 Caucasus_KuraAraxes
23.6 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
20.2 Anatolian_IA
6.2 China_AmurRiver_N

Distance to: kessaras
0.02816504 Kumyk
0.02896292 Kabardin
0.02906875 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.02980485 Azerbaijani_Republic_Gabala
0.03032316 Tat_Azerbaijan
0.03106564 Azerbaijani_Republic_Shaki
0.03136908 Circassian
0.03154843 Cherkes
0.03216457 Tat_Dagestan_Nyugdi
0.03320923 Karachay
0.03371600 Turkish_Sivas
0.03410561 Turkish_Nevsehir
0.03446184 Adygei
0.03576785 Turkish_Kayseri
0.03591192 Balkar
0.03631717 Ingushian
0.03715984 Abazin
0.03849802 Tat_Dagestan_Dzhalgan
0.03975834 Andian_A
0.04057863 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.04123080 Turkish_Konya
0.04146063 Georgian_Tush
0.04208831 Azerbaijani_Iran
0.04212027 Azerbaijani_Republic
0.04277867 Karata


İşin özü, Kafkasyan bir Anadolu Türk'üne kıyasla çok yüksek. Direkt Kuzey Kafkasyalı profiline sahipsin. %7-8'lik DA mirası direkt Karaçay ortalaması.

Ben full Karaçay değilim. İlginç.

Kess
01-21-2024, 05:27 PM
You can upload your raw data to MH not for their results but you can get free acces to the DNA matches their database is bigger and It was very helpful with my own family tree my problem with FTDNA is that the closest DNA matches are already quite distant with some few exceptions.

Interestingly enough, I have a 4th-remote Iberian match on my list in FTDNA. He's %99 Euro with %83 Iberian Peninsula %1 MENA. He has zero Sephardic Jew.

Hektor12
01-21-2024, 05:48 PM
Graths on your results.

Kess
01-21-2024, 05:55 PM
Graths on your results.

Did you take a DNA test? I have never seen your results, unlike Demirkazık, Annihilus, and DomitiusAurelian.

Hektor12
01-21-2024, 06:00 PM
Did you take a DNA test? I have never seen your results, unlike Demirkazık, Annihilus, and DomitiusAurelian.

No, probably never. Perhaps at very old age, when theres a tiny time left for possible negative thoughts in mind.

Incal
01-21-2024, 06:13 PM
Did you take a DNA test? I have never seen your results, unlike Demirkazık, Annihilus, and DomitiusAurelian.

He's afraid lol

Hektor12
01-21-2024, 06:16 PM
He's afraid lol

Dont worry, your Guinness certificate isnt under threat, nobody can be a bigger pussy than you in this world.

Leto
01-21-2024, 06:45 PM
With the updated Dodecad K12b sheet, like in old fucking times


kessaras(Turk-Karachay),16.41,3.44,0.64,0.18,9.6,15.54,0.94,0,7. 72,4.33,41.22,0

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 0.9155% / 0.91550216 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.5 Circassian
35.3 Turk_Central_West
16.5 Kumyk
5.7 Turk_West_Black_Sea
4.0 Turk_Central_East

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 1.4842% / 1.48421699 | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.6 Kabardin
39.8 Turk_Central_East
3.6 Turk_West_Black_Sea

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 1.3448% / 1.34475456 | R2P
54.3 Circassian
45.7 Turk_Central_West

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 0.9172% / 0.91718690 | R3P
44.4 Turk_Central_West
39.5 Circassian
16.1 Kumyk

Distance to: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
1.08978262 29.60% Tatar_Lipka + 70.40% Turk_Ahıska
1.17577487 50.60% Balkar + 49.40% Turk_Central_West
1.26645903 69.80% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 30.20% Tatar_Lipka
1.34483841 54.40% Circassian + 45.60% Turk_Central_West
1.49803190 57.20% Kabardin + 42.80% Turk_Central_East
1.56666795 52.60% Adyghe + 47.40% Turk_Southwest
1.57525802 51.40% Karachay + 48.60% Turk_Central_West
1.70479667 56.60% Abazin + 43.40% Turk_Central_West
1.72946352 50.80% Karachay + 49.20% Turk_West_Black_Sea
1.78580987 53.80% Circassian + 46.20% Turk_West_Black_Sea

You're not lying about your background ;)

Annihilus
01-21-2024, 07:00 PM
I find the Magyar part intriguing. Possible proof the old Magyars are originally Caucasian or just an overlap?


Magyar is something like West Slavic in MyOrigins, However maybe the Alans in Etelköz (c. 850 – c. 895) were somewhat half Caucasian like, idk.

I got this for Eastern Europe

West Slavic 21%
Magyar <2%

Kess
01-21-2024, 07:48 PM
With the updated Dodecad K12b sheet, like in old fucking times


kessaras(Turk-Karachay),16.41,3.44,0.64,0.18,9.6,15.54,0.94,0,7. 72,4.33,41.22,0

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 0.9155% / 0.91550216 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.5 Circassian
35.3 Turk_Central_West
16.5 Kumyk
5.7 Turk_West_Black_Sea
4.0 Turk_Central_East

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 1.4842% / 1.48421699 | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.6 Kabardin
39.8 Turk_Central_East
3.6 Turk_West_Black_Sea

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 1.3448% / 1.34475456 | R2P
54.3 Circassian
45.7 Turk_Central_West

Target: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
Distance: 0.9172% / 0.91718690 | R3P
44.4 Turk_Central_West
39.5 Circassian
16.1 Kumyk

Distance to: kessaras(Turk-Karachay)
1.08978262 29.60% Tatar_Lipka + 70.40% Turk_Ahıska
1.17577487 50.60% Balkar + 49.40% Turk_Central_West
1.26645903 69.80% Georgian_Kartli-Kakheti + 30.20% Tatar_Lipka
1.34483841 54.40% Circassian + 45.60% Turk_Central_West
1.49803190 57.20% Kabardin + 42.80% Turk_Central_East
1.56666795 52.60% Adyghe + 47.40% Turk_Southwest
1.57525802 51.40% Karachay + 48.60% Turk_Central_West
1.70479667 56.60% Abazin + 43.40% Turk_Central_West
1.72946352 50.80% Karachay + 49.20% Turk_West_Black_Sea
1.78580987 53.80% Circassian + 46.20% Turk_West_Black_Sea

You're not lying about your background ;)

Why would I lie in the first place?

Leto
01-21-2024, 07:50 PM
Why would I lie in the first place?
No, I was just saying the oracles prove it. The other day I saw a black guy who claimed his 6% European was just "noise" xD

Laredo
01-21-2024, 07:55 PM
No, I was just saying the oracles prove it. The other day I saw a black guy who claimed his 6% European was just "noise" xD

At what percentage you would consider a noise? Curious about your opinion I'm asking because on gedmatch (their calculators have not been updated for over 10 years) despite their newest welcome Intro.

Everyone I've seen on reddit even full Europeans scored at least 1-3% SSA or amerindian or Asian or Australoid despite their genetic results shows none.

Annihilus
01-21-2024, 08:00 PM
At what percentage you would consider a noise? Curious about your opinion I'm asking because on gedmatch (their calculators have not been updated for over 10 years) despite their newest welcome Intro.

Everyone I've seen on reddit even full Europeans scored at least 1-3% SSA or amerindian or Asian or Australoid despite their genetic results shows none.

which calculator?

Leto
01-21-2024, 08:01 PM
At what percentage you would consider a noise? Curious about your opinion I'm asking because on gedmatch (their calculators have not been updated for over 10 years) despite their newest welcome Intro.

Everyone I've seen on reddit even full Europeans scored at least 1-3% SSA or amerindian or Asian or Australoid despite their genetic results shows none.
On 23andme or Ancestry DNA most of the things that are way below 1 percent might be noise but not always. Especially if they don't make sense genealogy-wise. Like 0.4% Italian in a Swedish person or something like that. Or when a Korean right out of the blue scores 0.2% South Indian or Ethiopian. With Gedmatch it's much different, some calculators are very noisy. I mean I know that a Russian simply cannot be 1% Oceanian or 2% North African.

Laredo
01-21-2024, 08:06 PM
which calculator?

On gedmatch almost all calculators scored australoid and Siberian. But on all G25 calculators I haven't scored any authentic Australoid or or East Asian.

Although personally think would be cool If I really end up having some.

Leto
01-21-2024, 08:11 PM
On gedmatch almost all calculators scored australoid and Siberian. But on all G25 calculators I haven't scored any authentic Australoid or or East Asian.

Although personally think would be cool If I really end up having some.
In your case the Siberian might be simply misread Amerindian. I personally get some Arabian noise on many if not most calculators, including G25. I score <1 percent Mizrahi Jew on FTDNA.

Kess
01-21-2024, 10:59 PM
.

As the haplogroup astrologer of this forum, what's your prediction about my Y-DNA?

Katarzyna
01-21-2024, 11:07 PM
I don’t know from writing. I would need to fuck you for that at least once. Then I would know for sure.

Kess
03-06-2024, 12:00 AM
Most important question: What is your haplogroup?

Finally they have revealed it.

127434

My map:

127439

Mixdguy17
03-06-2024, 02:51 AM
Congrats bro. My origins is garbage for me but it looks accurate for u. How do u feel about the results?

Figaro
03-06-2024, 03:14 AM
It is... Any company business speaking should prioritized their oldest costumers you know :rolleyes:

Anyway as a Mexican I'm probably Rb1 paternal and an amerindian mtdna.

Did you get your result yet? Lol

Leto
03-06-2024, 09:33 AM
Finally they have revealed it.

127434

My map:

127439
Congratulations!


R-CTS9219

The paternal line R1b-CTS9219 is the most widespread line of haplogroup R1b and among the most frequent in general among Albanians of all lands, with about 14% of all paternal lines. R-CTS9219 is a descendant line of haplogroup R-M269, and its branch R-M269>L23>Z2103>Z2106>CTS7556. R-Z2103 was part of the Indo-European peoples that inhabited eastern Europe and the steppes of Eurasia, and spread around the beginning of the Bronze Age in all directions with the waves that gradually formed the main groups of European populations that we know today, such as Germans, Celts, Albanians, Greeks, etc.

The text is actually auto-translated from Albanian (oddly enough). Here's the original:
https://rrenjet.com/r-cts9219/

Basically, you are R1b1a1b-M269. How common is it in Turkey? It's sure not an original Turkic marker.

Kess
03-06-2024, 11:28 AM
but it looks accurate for

No, bro there is no way I'm %0 North Caucasian.

Kess
03-06-2024, 11:30 AM
Basically, you are R1b1a1b-M269. How common is it in Turkey? It's sure not an original Turkic marker.

I posted my Y-DNA on the Turkish DNA Facebook group. I'm going to wait for replies, especially from admins and moderators who are knowledgeable about this topic.

Mixdguy17
03-06-2024, 05:33 PM
No, bro there is no way I'm %0 North Caucasian.

Yeah, my origins sucks

Kess
03-11-2024, 10:06 PM
I haven't got mine either, keep In mind I got tested with FTDNA late 2018 or Jan 2019 and still have not received mine. I should probably ask for a refund...

Have you sent them a ticket?

What's your MyTrueAncestry Y-DNA breakdown?

You can post it to this thread:https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?382532-Post-Your-MyTrueAncestry-Y-DNA-Breakdown

With %31.9 r1b ranks first in my case which is my haplogroup.

I don't know how they predicted it because my FTDNA raw data that I uploaded to MyTrueAncestry had no Y-DNA related SNPs.

But they hit on the target just right.

Beowulf
03-11-2024, 10:10 PM
Have you sent them a ticket?

What's your MyTrueAncestry Y-DNA breakdown?

You can post it to this thread:https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?382532-Post-Your-MyTrueAncestry-Y-DNA-Breakdown

With %31.9 r1b ranks first in my case which is my haplogroup.

I don't know how they predicted it because my FTDNA raw data that I uploaded to MyTrueAncestry had no Y-DNA related SNPs.

But they hit on the target just right.

That Y-DNA breakdown is based on your matches samples from MTA not about your Y-DNA SNP's

if you click for example on the R1b of the breakdown you'll see a lot of samples that has R1b for example.

Kess
03-11-2024, 10:12 PM
That Y-DNA breakdown is based on your matches samples from MTA not about your Y-DNA SNP's

if you click for example on the R1b of the breakdown you'll see a lot of samples that has R1b for example.

Hmm.

So what can be understood from this breakdown?

Is it a good prediction? Or just coincidence?

Beowulf
03-11-2024, 10:17 PM
Hmm.

So what can be understood from this breakdown?

Is it a good prediction? Or just coincidence?

i'd say is just a coincidence.

Laredo
03-11-2024, 10:21 PM
Have you sent them a ticket?

What's your MyTrueAncestry Y-DNA breakdown?

You can post it to this thread:https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?382532-Post-Your-MyTrueAncestry-Y-DNA-Breakdown

With %31.9 r1b ranks first in my case which is my haplogroup.

I don't know how they predicted it because my FTDNA raw data that I uploaded to MyTrueAncestry had no Y-DNA related SNPs.

But they hit on the target just right.

I haven't check, I will probably send a ticket later.

From what I remembered I have a paternal Middle Eastern or Jewish haplogroup.