My Eurogenes K13 plus Ancestry DNA

[Angry Moose]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.65
2 North_Atlantic 21.16
3 Baltic 19.2
4 West_Med 17.36
5 West_Asian 11.73
6 Red_Sea 2.15
7 Amerindian 0.6
8 East_Asian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.48
10 Siberian 0.43
11 Sub-Saharan 0.37
12 Oceanian 0.27
13 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.78
2 Bulgarian 6.45
3 Romanian 8.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.64
5 Central_Greek 10.81
6 Tuscan 11.81
7 East_Sicilian 11.98
8 West_Sicilian 12.05
9 Serbian 12.59
10 Ashkenazi 12.86
11 South_Italian 14.88
12 North_Italian 15.09
13 Moldavian 18.67
14 Italian_Jewish 19.76
15 Sephardic_Jewish 20.01
16 Algerian_Jewish 20.1
17 Hungarian 20.59
18 Croatian 21.48
19 Portuguese 22.24
20 Spanish_Extremadura 22.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.02
2 76.3% Bulgarian + 23.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.05
3 60.5% Romanian + 39.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.07
4 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.32
5 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.44
6 70.6% Romanian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.5
7 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.69
8 70.3% South_Italian + 29.7% Belorussian @ 2.71
9 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.71
10 50.6% Serbian + 49.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.77
11 68.3% South_Italian + 31.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.87
12 74.3% Romanian + 25.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.89
13 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.92
14 84.5% Bulgarian + 15.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.92
15 79.6% Romanian + 20.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.94
16 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% South_Italian @ 2.95
17 72.9% South_Italian + 27.1% Lithuanian @ 3
18 67.6% Serbian + 32.4% Cyprian @ 3.01
19 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.01
20 70.1% South_Italian + 29.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.01

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[Feiichy]

Interesting, your ancestry is similar to another American user Milkaner. Welcome.

[Melkiirs]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.65
2 North_Atlantic 21.16
3 Baltic 19.2
4 West_Med 17.36
5 West_Asian 11.73
6 Red_Sea 2.15
7 Amerindian 0.6
8 East_Asian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.48
10 Siberian 0.43
11 Sub-Saharan 0.37
12 Oceanian 0.27
13 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.78
2 Bulgarian 6.45
3 Romanian 8.54
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.64
5 Central_Greek 10.81
6 Tuscan 11.81
7 East_Sicilian 11.98
8 West_Sicilian 12.05
9 Serbian 12.59
10 Ashkenazi 12.86
11 South_Italian 14.88
12 North_Italian 15.09
13 Moldavian 18.67
14 Italian_Jewish 19.76
15 Sephardic_Jewish 20.01
16 Algerian_Jewish 20.1
17 Hungarian 20.59
18 Croatian 21.48
19 Portuguese 22.24
20 Spanish_Extremadura 22.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.02
2 76.3% Bulgarian + 23.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.05
3 60.5% Romanian + 39.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.07
4 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.32
5 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.44
6 70.6% Romanian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.5
7 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.69
8 70.3% South_Italian + 29.7% Belorussian @ 2.71
9 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.71
10 50.6% Serbian + 49.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.77
11 68.3% South_Italian + 31.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.87
12 74.3% Romanian + 25.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.89
13 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.92
14 84.5% Bulgarian + 15.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.92
15 79.6% Romanian + 20.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.94
16 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% South_Italian @ 2.95
17 72.9% South_Italian + 27.1% Lithuanian @ 3
18 67.6% Serbian + 32.4% Cyprian @ 3.01
19 71.2% Romanian + 28.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.01
20 70.1% South_Italian + 29.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.01

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Here are my k13 results for comparison:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.08
2 East_Med 22.84
3 Baltic 22.4
4 West_Med 13.87
5 West_Asian 7.79
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 East_Asian 2.22
8 South_Asian 0.66
9 Northeast_African 0.4
10 Oceanian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.13
2 Serbian 6.62
3 Bulgarian 7.41
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.1
5 Greek 12.14
6 Austrian 12.48
7 Tuscan 12.51
8 Hungarian 13.34
9 Moldavian 13.47
10 North_Italian 13.53
11 Italian_Abruzzo 13.79
12 Croatian 14.48
13 Ashkenazi 15.07
14 West_Sicilian 15.31
15 Central_Greek 15.76
16 East_Sicilian 16.22
17 French 16.52
18 East_German 16.72
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.39
20 Portuguese 17.42

Mixer mode:
https://i.ibb.co/PMbnfZK/067-B076-F-F00-C-4-A23-ABE1-3098-AA7-E2251.jpg (https://ibb.co/42DG5Zz)

[Angry Moose]

Here are some updated K13

Distance to: Angry_Moose
3.67549997 Greek_Epirus
3.81485255 Aromanian
3.96150224 Turkish_Macedonia
4.20639989 Greek_Florina
4.31098597 Macedonian_South
4.42963881 Greek_Thrace
4.48568835 Greek_Thessaly
4.66411835 Albanian_Macedonia
4.73269479 Greek_CentralMacedonia
4.80702611 Greek_West
5.29210733 Greek_Achaea
5.75501520 Torbesh
5.83151781 Albanian_South_Albania
5.98920696 Albanian_Kosovo
6.03447595 Greek_Peloponnese
6.08310776 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
6.18076856 Albanian_North_Albania
6.20243501 Macedonian_North
6.26225199 Albanian_Montenegro
6.26428767 Bulgarian_Moldova
6.31905847 Macedonian_Central
6.35539141 Greek_Laconia
6.46297919 Greek_Messenia
6.47456562 Bulgarian_Southeastern
6.48310882 Gagauz

[Melkiirs]

Is your Ashkenazi side all German Jewish/Yekke?

[Angry Moose]

Here are my k13 results for comparison:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.08
2 East_Med 22.84
3 Baltic 22.4
4 West_Med 13.87
5 West_Asian 7.79
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 East_Asian 2.22
8 South_Asian 0.66
9 Northeast_African 0.4
10 Oceanian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.13
2 Serbian 6.62
3 Bulgarian 7.41
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.1
5 Greek 12.14
6 Austrian 12.48
7 Tuscan 12.51
8 Hungarian 13.34
9 Moldavian 13.47
10 North_Italian 13.53
11 Italian_Abruzzo 13.79
12 Croatian 14.48
13 Ashkenazi 15.07
14 West_Sicilian 15.31
15 Central_Greek 15.76
16 East_Sicilian 16.22
17 French 16.52
18 East_German 16.72
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.39
20 Portuguese 17.42

Mixer mode:
https://i.ibb.co/PMbnfZK/067-B076-F-F00-C-4-A23-ABE1-3098-AA7-E2251.jpg (https://ibb.co/42DG5Zz)

What does your paper trail say? Mine is
1/8 German-Jewish
1/8 Bohemian-Jewish
1/8 Hungarian-Jewish
1/8 Russian-Jewish

1/8 Northwest Euro mostly German
1/8 Northwest Euro mostly English
1/8 Polish
1/8 Slovak

[Angry Moose]

I am a quarter Yekke descending from Jews from Franconia and German speaking Jews from Bohemia.

[Angry Moose]

I think the quarter Polish/Slovak brings me closer to the South Balkans if I was Half Ashkenazi and Half Northwest Euro I would probably be closer to Tuscans I think

[Melkiirs]

What does your paper trail say? Mine is
1/8 German-Jewish
1/8 Bohemian-Jewish
1/8 Hungarian-Jewish
1/8 Russian-Jewish

1/8 Northwest Euro mostly German
1/8 Northwest Euro mostly English
1/8 Polish
1/8 Slovak

1/2 Ashkenazi mostly Litvak (high East Eurasian on a line stemming from Lida/Novogrudok Belarus with a large Lipka population so possible Lipka Tatar)
7/32 Irish
1/8 Lithuanian
1/16 Polish
1/32 Colonial mix of English/Welsh/Scots-Irish/Danish/Swedish/Dutch/PA-German/Forest Finn (also Norwegian if you go back to the 15th century before colonization)
1/32 post-colonial English
1/32 post-colonial German

[Angry Moose]

1/2 Ashkenazi (high East Eurasian on a line stemming from Lida/Novogrudok Belarus with a large Lipka population so possible Lipka Tatar)
7/32 Irish
1/8 Lithuanian
1/16 (English + Colonial mix of English/Welsh/Scots-Irish/Danish/Swedish/Dutch/Forrest Finn/+Norwegian if you go back to 15th century)
1/16 Polish
1/32 German

Do you know anyone else with similar ancestry to us? Did you take AncestryDNA or 23andme?

[Melkiirs]

I think the quarter Polish/Slovak brings me closer to the South Balkans if I was Half Ashkenazi and Half Northwest Euro I would probably be closer to Tuscans I think

Half British Isles half Ashkenazi I would agree. There is a half mostly German half Eastern Ashkenazi member 7eleven who is still closer to Balkan populations:
7eleven:
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 9.3
2 Serbian 10.08
3 Bulgarian 10.84
4 North_Italian 11.39
5 Tuscan 12.18
6 French 14.2
7 Austrian 14.22
8 Portuguese 14.91
9 Hungarian 15.17
10 Spanish_Galicia 16.11
11 Spanish_Cataluna 16.13
12 Spanish_Extremadura 16.32
13 Spanish_Murcia 16.6
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.88
15 Spanish_Valencia 17.12
16 Greek 17.3
17 Spanish_Andalucia 18.15
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18.82
19 German 19.17
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.82

The member’s gentile mother is essentially British in ancestry:
AngloJew:
Single Population Sharing:
1 North_Italian @ 10.942
2 Romanian @ 12.032
3 Tuscan @ 12.597
4 Serbian @ 13.281
5 Bulgarian @ 13.845
6 French @ 14.893
7 Portuguese @ 15.270
8 Spanish_Extremadura @ 16.183
9 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.429
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.675
175 iterations.

[Melkiirs]

Do you know anyone else with similar ancestry to us? Did you take AncestryDNA or 23andme?

Check this thread I made on my AncestryDNA results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?379827-Milkaner-s-AncestryDNA&highlight=Milkaner

[Angry Moose]

Check this thread I made on my AncestryDNA results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?379827-Milkaner-s-AncestryDNA&highlight=Milkaner

It says I don't have permission to look.

[Melkiirs]

It says I don't have permission to look.

Forgot it was in Regular’s section. Silly me.

Here is a quote:


Here are my personal results:
https://i.ibb.co/jDqnvWS/GAncestry-1-1.png (https://ibb.co/kXzNg9t)

Hacked results (Western China is likely all from father who gets 0.41% Mongolia & Central Asian-North):
https://i.ibb.co/J7CTyts/GHack.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Compared to father and maternal aunt:
https://i.ibb.co/d76S2xt/compare.png (https://ibb.co/yV5Dy7p)

Likely significantly due to the Lithuanian ancestry I have a clear Balkan shift towards Romania/Serbia/Bulgaria when I expected to cluster closer to Northern Italy and Tuscany. I don’t have G25 coordinates yet but will get them soon enough.

This is my Eurogenes K13 result. Note that the East Asian is much higher than expected as it is only slightly lower than my father (2.4%) but I have no Amerindian or Siberian so there is still a significant difference in overall East Eurasian (2.22% vs 4.09%).

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26.08
2 East_Med 22.84
3 Baltic 22.4
4 West_Med 13.87
5 West_Asian 7.79
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 East_Asian 2.22
8 South_Asian 0.66
9 Northeast_African 0.4
10 Oceanian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.13
2 Serbian 6.62
3 Bulgarian 7.41
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.1
5 Greek 12.14
6 Austrian 12.48
7 Tuscan 12.51
8 Hungarian 13.34
9 Moldavian 13.47
10 North_Italian 13.53
11 Italian_Abruzzo 13.79
12 Croatian 14.48
13 Ashkenazi 15.07
14 West_Sicilian 15.31
15 Central_Greek 15.76
16 East_Sicilian 16.22
17 French 16.52
18 East_German 16.72
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.39
20 Portuguese 17.42