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majevica
01-24-2024, 12:47 AM
AncestryDNA results

https://imgur.com/iEdizyM.jpg

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.96
2 North_Atlantic 26.2
3 West_Med 16.86
4 East_Med 13.06
5 West_Asian 10.29
6 East_Asian 0.69
7 South_Asian 0.53
8 Oceanian 0.52
9 Red_Sea 0.5
10 Amerindian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.41
2 Serbian 4.66
3 Croatian 6.41
4 Hungarian 7.59
5 Romanian 7.6
6 Bulgarian 9.68
7 Austrian 11.05
8 East_German 12.06
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.01
10 South_Polish 13.57
11 Ukrainian 14.17
12 Polish 17.18
13 West_German 17.35
14 Southwest_Russian 17.77
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.89
16 Greek_Thessaly 18.47
17 South_Dutch 18.84
18 Russian_Smolensk 19.41
19 French 19.55
20 Estonian_Polish 20.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.6% Croatian + 45.4% Romanian @ 2
2 60.9% Croatian + 39.1% Bulgarian @ 2.07
3 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.19
4 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% Central_Greek @ 2.27
5 83.2% Croatian + 16.8% South_Italian @ 2.27
6 65.9% Romanian + 34.1% Ukrainian @ 2.31
7 51.9% Moldavian + 48.1% Serbian @ 2.4
8 75.5% Croatian + 24.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.4
9 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% North_Italian @ 2.41
10 58.8% Bulgarian + 41.2% South_Polish @ 2.43
11 65% Romanian + 35% South_Polish @ 2.45
12 70.3% Romanian + 29.7% Polish @ 2.47
13 81.4% Croatian + 18.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.47
14 64% Romanian + 36% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.53
15 63.6% Ukrainian + 36.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.56
16 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Tuscan @ 2.58
17 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.6
18 66.9% Moldavian + 33.1% Romanian @ 2.64
19 60.4% Serbian + 39.6% Croatian @ 2.64
20 64.6% Bulgarian + 35.4% Polish @ 2.68

Vahaduo K13

Distance to: majevica_k13
2.17260213 Croat_Dalmatia
2.63740403 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
3.00419706 Serb_CentralCroatia
3.05923193 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
3.24004630 Croat_Herzegovina
3.26269827 Bosniak_Krajina_West
3.26700168 Croat_Bosnia
3.28531581 Romanian_Maramures
3.31605187 Croat_Istria
3.46206586 Serb_WestSerbia


Target: majevica_k13
Distance: 75.4154% / 0.75415391 | R3P
76.8 Lemko_Poland
19.6 Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite
3.6 Turkish_Meskheti

Beowulf
01-24-2024, 12:36 PM
Will you make new G25 coordinates with the Ancestry raw data?

Katarzyna
01-24-2024, 01:53 PM
Cool results. You can actually use them to get to know more about your haplogroups, like your mtDNA
1. Download https://www.dnagenics.com/dna-kit-studio/ so you can convert your ancestryDNA into the 23andme format
2. Use the 23andme file for the James Lick mtDNA haplogroup predictor https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

It doesn’t work with MyHeritage data, only Ancestry one. Cause MH doesn’t have enough SNPs

Etelfrido
01-24-2024, 02:28 PM
Is it accurate? I don't know much about the nitty gritty of Balkan genetics but it says you're mostly Croatian though you wrote you're a Bosnian Serb in your ethnicity.

majevica
01-24-2024, 02:29 PM
Will you make new G25 coordinates with the Ancestry raw data?

Yes, I uploaded my raw data to IllustrativeDNA. I'm currently waiting for my coordinates.

majevica
01-24-2024, 02:31 PM
Cool results. You can actually use them to get to know more about your haplogroups, like your mtDNA
1. Download https://www.dnagenics.com/dna-kit-studio/ so you can convert your ancestryDNA into the 23andme format
2. Use the 23andme file for the James Lick mtDNA haplogroup predictor https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

It doesn’t work with MyHeritage data, only Ancestry one. Cause MH doesn’t have enough SNPs

Thank you! I got J2b.

nittionia
01-24-2024, 02:34 PM
Thank you! I got J2b.

Cool, same as my dad

Hektor12
01-24-2024, 02:34 PM
3.6 Turkish_Meskheti

Interesting, theyre mostly Georgian genetically but i know some Turanid looking ones among them.

majevica
01-24-2024, 02:41 PM
Is it accurate? I don't know much about the nitty gritty of Balkan genetics but it says you're mostly Croatian though you wrote you're a Bosnian Serb in your ethnicity.

To me it looks accurate. I'm actually a Bosnian Serb/Bosnian Croat mix, but ethnically I rather identify with the (paternal) Bosnian Serb part.

vandor
01-24-2024, 02:45 PM
I may finally make similar test in Russian Genotek to find out I'm Mongoloid xD

majevica
01-24-2024, 03:16 PM
Interesting, theyre mostly Georgian genetically but i know some Turanid looking ones among them.

Interesting. This looks cool too. German outliers + some Karadeniz.

Target: majevica_K13
Distance: 111.7250% / 1.11724964 | R3P
45.2 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
40.4 German_Bavarian_Swabia
14.4 Greek_Pontus

Melkiirs
01-24-2024, 03:45 PM
Could you post your hacked results?

Hektor12
01-24-2024, 03:53 PM
Interesting. This looks cool too. German outliers + some Karadeniz.

Target: majevica_K13
Distance: 111.7250% / 1.11724964 | R3P
45.2 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
40.4 German_Bavarian_Swabia
14.4 Greek_Pontus

K12b pls.

majevica
01-24-2024, 03:55 PM
Could you post your hacked results?

https://imgur.com/4w9v271.jpg

Dušan
01-24-2024, 04:03 PM
To me it looks accurate. I'm actually a Bosnian Serb/Bosnian Croat mix, but ethnically I rather identify with the (paternal) Bosnian Serb part.


From what place in Bosnia is your maternal side?

majevica
01-24-2024, 04:23 PM
From what place in Bosnia is your maternal side?

Around Žepče and Novi Šeher

majevica
01-24-2024, 04:24 PM
K12b pls.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 40.77
2 Atlantic_Med 27.82
3 Caucasus 20.32
4 Gedrosia 5.2
5 Southwest_Asian 4.3
6 South_Asian 0.56
7 Northwest_African 0.51
8 Southeast_Asian 0.47
9 East_African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 8.16
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.33
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.28
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.63
5 German (Dodecad) 12.93
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.32
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.73
8 French (Dodecad) 19.15
9 French (HGDP) 19.41
10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 19.92
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.18
12 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.93
13 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 21.03
14 English (Dodecad) 21.23
15 British_Isles (Dodecad) 22.32
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.08
17 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 23.09
18 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 23.21
19 Polish (Dodecad) 23.29
20 Swedish (Dodecad) 23.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.6% German (Dodecad) @ 0.8
2 67.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1
3 58.1% Romanians (Behar) + 41.9% German (Dodecad) @ 1.01
4 72% Romanians (Behar) + 28% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.31
5 79.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.32
6 79.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 71.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 28.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.5
8 76% Hungarians (Behar) + 24% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.58
9 52.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 47.3% German (Dodecad) @ 1.74
10 67.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 32.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.8
11 82.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.85
12 71.7% Romanians (Behar) + 28.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.85
13 53.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.1% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.99
14 75.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.2% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.03
15 80.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.16
16 67.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.17
17 80.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.21
18 83% Hungarians (Behar) + 17% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.24
19 67.2% Romanians (Behar) + 32.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.26
20 75.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.5% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.26

Distance to: majevica_k12b
2.51793566 Serb
2.56602806 Romanian_North_Moldavia
2.93829883 Bosnian
2.96725462 Romanian_Maramure?
3.19076793 Croat_South
3.29127635 Romanian_Cri?ana
3.42569701 Moldovan_Central
4.35019540 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
4.70738781 Moldovan_North
4.79880193 Romanian_South_Moldavia

Target: majevica_k12b
Distance: 53.3968% / 0.53396843 | R3P
88.6 Croat
6.0 Hemshin
5.4 Sardinian

Hektor12
01-24-2024, 05:34 PM
6.0 Hemshin


Possible Paulician connection imho. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulicianism

Leto
01-25-2024, 11:02 PM
Good results, nothing particularly nonsensical.

Leto
01-25-2024, 11:08 PM
I may finally make similar test in Russian Genotek to find out I'm Mongoloid xD
Maybe some černožopy/black-assed ancestry too. :lol:

Ugo
01-26-2024, 12:03 AM
Maybe some černožopy/black-assed ancestry too. :lol:

West Europeans, and especially southern Europeans, are bursting their asses from the fact that eastern Europeans are r1a and descendants of ane+whg. Their black j ass came up with the idea that they are Europeans. lol.

Ugo
01-26-2024, 12:26 AM
I may finally make similar test in Russian Genotek to find out I'm Mongoloid xD
None of the Russians are Mongoloids. The question should be put in a different way. Which of the Europeans has more European blood in them?. For example, there is almost no such thing in the Balkans and the Spaniards. They are most likely from Western Asia. Eastern Europeans have preserved their European dna as much as possible. The Balts, Finns and representatives of the Yamnaya culture are mostly Europeans. These people from Western Europe are trying to impose a mogoloid complex on us, not even having 20-30% of the European dna. I am 3% Mongoloid, but I am more European than any German or Frenchman, and even more Croat. I have much more European dna than they do. Eupator has a busted ass, he is an intelligent Asian and understands this.

majevica
01-26-2024, 10:24 AM
G25 Coordinates


majevica_scaled,0.133173,0.137096,0.041483,0.02357 9,0.033545,0.00753,0.00705,0.003923,-0.005931,0.003462,-0.007145,-0.007044,0.006392,0.015689,-0.010858,0.003315,0.006128,-0.001774,0.006411,-0.001876,-0.012353,-0.000124,-0.002095,-0.009278,-0.000838


Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 1.6264% / 0.01626352
42.4 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
32.8 Lithuanian_PA
6.6 Sardinian
5.8 Sorb_Niederlausitz
5.4 Spanish_Soria
4.2 Georgian_Ajar
2.8 Cossack_Ukrainian

Distance to: majevica_scaled
0.02114947 Serbian
0.02175339 Bosnian
0.02424615 Moldovan
0.02438819 Montenegrin
0.02672253 Croatian
0.02858218 Slovenian
0.02936138 Romanian
0.03097863 Macedonian
0.03346617 Hungarian
0.03415684 Austrian
0.03469156 Bulgarian
0.03762964 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.04216186 German_Erlangen
0.04313882 Gagauz
0.04404883 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.04427608 Italian_Northeast
0.04540690 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.04553021 Czech
0.04647624 German_East
0.04699039 French_Alsace
0.04700656 Slovakian
0.04773103 Moldovan_o
0.04843157 German
0.04896838 French_Seine-Maritime
0.05103927 French_Nord

0.018 majevica_scaled = 65% Bulgarian + 35% Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.019 majevica_scaled = 52% Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace + 48% Slovakian
0.019 majevica_scaled = 57% Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace + 43% Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.019 majevica_scaled = 57% Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace + 43% Polish
0.019 majevica_scaled = 61% Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace + 39% Polish_Kashubian
0.019 majevica_scaled = 86% Serbian + 14% Cossack_Ukrainian
0.019 majevica_scaled = 68% Macedonian + 32% Polish
0.019 majevica_scaled = 77% Macedonian + 23% Lithuanian_VA
0.019 majevica_scaled = 89% Serbian + 11% Lithuanian_VA
0.019 majevica_scaled = 91% Serbian + 9% Lithuanian_SZ

Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 4.3401% / 0.04340097
46.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
45.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
8.0 Italy_North_Villabruna_HG

Farmer & HG from IllustrativeDNA

https://imgur.com/1WCdZg8.jpg

vandor
01-26-2024, 01:52 PM
black-assed ancestry too. :lol:

I doubt about this, but surely it depends on what nations you include in BA list xD

Kess
01-26-2024, 01:58 PM
West Europeans, and especially southern Europeans, are bursting their asses from the fact that eastern Europeans are r1a and descendants of ane+whg. Their black j ass came up with the idea that they are Europeans. lol.

We all know you hate EEF but what about CHG?

Leto
01-26-2024, 02:12 PM
I doubt about this, but surely it depends on what nations you include in BA list xD
Seriously speaking most likely you don't have any, though I barely know you. I was thinking maybe North Caucasian. Rumata is quarter Adyghe for example, that's technically black-assed too, though I personally think a Balto-Caucasian fusion would produce a great race (by Caucasian I don't mean Armenia and especially Azerbaijan). The purest Caucasians are Western Georgians (Colchis) and Abkhazians.

Ajeje Brazorf
01-26-2024, 02:12 PM
Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 0.0169% / 0.01685617 | R3P
41.9 Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns222__BC_523
33.3 MKD_Anc:I10381__BC_636
24.8 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20231__BC_615


Distance to: majevica_scaled
0.02000929 yngviktor_scaled
0.02302856 Nurzat_scaled
0.02410727 MC_scaled
0.02456496 dink/Dick1_scaled
0.02464107 dink/Dick3_scaled
0.02476725 dink/Dick4_scaled
0.02528169 Просигој_scaled
0.02594297 branimir/Ford_scaled
0.02619860 Ljubic_scaled
0.02626356 dink/Dick2_scaled
0.02672686 VDC_scaled
0.02748315 Hazmatnik_maternal_aunt_scaled
0.02806820 Ayetooey_father_scaled
0.02812826 Hazmatnik_paternal_grandmother_scaled
0.02838055 macman_scaled
0.02925272 17571martijn/17571imre_scaled
0.02938502 dink/Dick_father1_scaled
0.02954772 cercle_mother_scaled
0.02968981 Ljubic_father2_scaled
0.02973935 Bosniensis_scaled

Feiichy
01-26-2024, 02:27 PM
Congrats on your results. Do you feel improvement with ancestryG25? They have much more snps than MH ones.

Abaddon
01-26-2024, 02:31 PM
We all know you hate EEF but what about CHG?

By his logic, CHG is way worse due to peaking at non-euro populations.

Kess
01-26-2024, 02:38 PM
By his logic, CHG is way worse due to peaking at non-euro populations.

He looks like a guy who hates farmers.

majevica
01-26-2024, 03:44 PM
Congrats on your results. Do you feel improvement with ancestryG25? They have much more snps than MH ones.

Thank you. I do see a improvement. Better distances and a more realistic (higher) CHG score.

kingmob
01-26-2024, 03:46 PM
Eupator has a busted ass, he is an intelligent Asian and understands this.


Refrain from trying to invoke my attention, snake.

I care very little for your pathetic and wretched complexes of who is more european than who, and your existential angst to find meaning to your otherwise lame self.

Kess
01-26-2024, 03:53 PM
CHG is way worse due to peaking at non-euro populations.

"The CHG display higher genetic affinities to European and Anatolian groups than Iranian hunter-gatherers do, suggesting a possible cline and geneflow into the CHG and less into Mesolithic and Neolithic Iranian groups"

KirillMazur
01-26-2024, 05:08 PM
I may finally make similar test in Russian Genotek to find out I'm Mongoloid xD
We have only Genotek left among such services, as far as I remember.
I've been planning to take the test for years now, but I'm afraid of discovering the truth that I can be Longbowman's second cousin:).

Abaddon
01-26-2024, 05:13 PM
"The CHG display higher genetic affinities to European and Anatolian groups than Iranian hunter-gatherers do, suggesting a possible cline and geneflow into the CHG and less into Mesolithic and Neolithic Iranian groups"

And...? CHG is a non-european component, basically a euro-shifted iran calcholithic, more than Iran_N.

Kess
01-26-2024, 05:14 PM
We have only Genotek left among such services, as far as I remember.
I've been planning to take the test for years now, but I'm afraid of discovering the truth that I can be Longbowman's second cousin:).

Are you Jewish?

vandor
01-26-2024, 05:21 PM
We have only Genotek left among such services, as far as I remember.
I've been planning to take the test for years now, but I'm afraid of discovering the truth that I can be Longbowman's second cousin:).

I always postpone it, because I don't like to waste money on everything I see and what I don't REALLY need at the moment. I have to be in mood to take it. It's worth of some 12 bottles of decent wine, anyway.

Also, I imagine how already paid for this I will be forced to get into this stuff, which may be interesting, but will take my time, will make me understand how all those systems work etc. I'm the person who quit most of online services and all social networks, it may become annoying to me.

KirillMazur
01-26-2024, 05:24 PM
Are you Jewish?
We are all Jews, but not everyone has the courage to admit it:).
Just kidding, but who knows? It would be interesting to know the test results, but there is no time to do this yet.
Otherwise, the whole section of genetics on the forum passes me by.

I always postpone it, because I don't like to waste money on everything I see and what I don't REALLY need at the moment. I have to be in mood to take it. It's worth of some 12 bottles of decent wine, anyway.

Also, I imagine how already paid for this I will be forced to get into this stuff, which may be interesting, but will take my time, will make me understand how all those systems work etc. I'm the person who quit most of online services and all social networks, it may become annoying to me.
+1.
Say it in short, that you have become greedy and lazy with age, and I will understand everything:).

KirillMazur
01-26-2024, 05:27 PM
Genetics is an important part of this forum, and it would be interesting to understand from the inside what all these calculators mean and my place in this coordinate system.

Kess
01-26-2024, 05:31 PM
Thank you. I do see a improvement. Better distances and a more realistic (higher) CHG score.

Welcome to the tribe.

Ugo
01-26-2024, 06:32 PM
We all know you hate EEF but what about CHG?
I like CHG.

gixajo
01-26-2024, 06:42 PM
I like CHG.

Me too, but just for dinner.

Zohor
01-29-2024, 08:13 PM
West Europeans, and especially southern Europeans, are bursting their asses from the fact that eastern Europeans are r1a and descendants of ane+whg. Their black j ass came up with the idea that they are Europeans. lol.

Ah yes, good old delusional Bosnian reindeer herder came back, same as always XD