Great Grandmother DNA Results

[Beowulf]

They finally arrived, but before my paternal grandparents ones so maybe i will get the rest later or tomorrow


https://i.postimg.cc/J0hBbnWh/Screenshot-2024-01-26-12-28-27.png (https://postimages.org/)


She was the one with italian ancestry i knew that a problem like this could happen since her italian ancestry is from the north. Either high Iberian or high italian could appear due the overlapp? I would have expected a genetic group in Italy like my Father

https://i.postimg.cc/DyXwRs5T/Screenshot-2024-01-26-12-30-57.png (https://postimages.org/)


Eurogenes K13:



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<tbody>
Population



North_Atlantic
38.47 Pct


Baltic
10.89 Pct


West_Med
29.12 Pct


West_Asian
3.23 Pct


East_Med
12.42 Pct


Red_Sea
2.61 Pct


South_Asian
-


East_Asian
0.41 Pct


Siberian
0.48 Pct


Amerindian
-


Oceanian
0.35 Pct


Northeast_African
1.38 Pct


Sub-Saharan
0.63 Pct



</tbody>


</tbody>

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.230537
2 Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.420199
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.561555
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.228477
5 Spanish_Valencia @ 4.240488
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 4.275929
7 Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.419033
8 Portuguese @ 4.421465
9 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.539695
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.921186
11 Spanish_Aragon @ 6.425080
12 Southwest_French @ 6.659461
13 North_Italian @ 11.223560
14 French @ 12.797254
15 Tuscan @ 18.467510
16 French_Basque @ 19.273434
17 South_Dutch @ 19.557514
18 West_German @ 19.860376
19 Southeast_English @ 24.350603
20 Southwest_English @ 24.640553

1 50% Spanish_Andalucia +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.174092

1 50% Portuguese +25% Sardinian +25% Southwest_English @ 1.621411

1 Irish + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.111679
2 Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 1.155923
3 Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 1.186390
4 Irish + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.242362
5 Irish + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.250052
6 Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Scottish @ 1.271744
7 Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 1.273721
8 Irish + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.274628
9 Irish + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.294306
10 Irish + Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.301929
11 Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Scottish @ 1.309379
12 Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 1.317750
13 Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 1.323706
14 Irish + Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.347225
15 Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.350024
16 Irish + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.355953
17 Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 1.364156
18 Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 1.364296
19 Irish + Portuguese + Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.365573
20 Sardinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 1.375878

Mixed Mode


<tbody>
1

92%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
8%
Cyprian
@
1.32


2

88.5%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
11.5%
South_Italian
@
1.33


3

88.2%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
11.8%
East_Sicilian
@
1.34


4

86.1%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
13.9%
West_Sicilian
@
1.36


5

90.1%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
9.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
1.37


6

88.2%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
11.8%
Central_Greek
@
1.43


7

93.1%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
6.9%
Samaritan
@
1.46


8

93.3%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
6.7%
Lebanese_Christian
@
1.48


9

90.1%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
9.9%
Italian_Jewish
@
1.52


10

92.7%
Spanish_Cantabria
+
7.3%
Lebanese_Muslim
@
1.54

</tbody>





Her genetic profile seems more Iberian afterall

Target: Cristobalina_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.9017% / 0.02901673
58.2 TUR_Barcin_N
27.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
2.8 MAR_Taforalt

still this is her simulated coords i wonder if it change to much with the real ones like me

Cristobalina_simulated_g25_scaled,0.115897,0.14731 ,0.037155,-0.008322,0.044135,-0.004139,-0.0019,0.001298,0.022814,0.036685,-0.00325,0.008416,-0.016141,-0.00986,0.005139,-0.001756,-0.000198,-0.000765,-0.001678,-0.0027,0.000358,-0.00205,-0.001073,-0.005532,0.000378

[Beowulf]

Some runs for her:

Target: Cristobalina_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.3594% / 0.00359359 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.6 Iberian_Penninsula
20.2 France
12.6 Sardinia
10.6 Balkan
4.0 Italy


<tbody>
Distance to:
Cristobalina_simulated_g25_scaled


0.01311899
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_Central


0.01742668
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_West


0.01764108
Iberian_Penninsula:Portuguese


0.02226917
Iberian_Penninsula:Spanish_East


0.02989443
Italy:Italian_North


0.02993123
France:French_South


0.03385153
France:French_Central


0.04996439
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Swiss_German


0.05093344
Italy:Italian_Central


0.05438627
France:French_North


0.05657935
Balkan:Albanian


0.05855514
Balkan:Romanian


0.06055071
Balkan:Bulgarian


0.06436440
Greece_Cyprus:Greek


0.06720066
Balkan:Serbian


0.07033036
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:Austrian


0.07429462
Germanic_People_of_CentralEurope:German


0.07447178
Mediterranean_Islander:Maltese


0.07668724
Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi


0.07796761
Sardinia:Sardinian


0.07802216
Great_Britain_Ireland:English


0.07833207
Balkan:Croatian


0.07972635
Italy:Italian_South


0.08008857
Balkan:Slovenian


0.08042240
Carpathian_Basin:Hungarian



</tbody>


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Target: Cristobalina_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0048% / 0.00479290
47.6 Iberia.Bronze.Age
26.1 Lusitano-Celts.IA
19.7 Imperial&East.Med
3.9 North.Africa
2.7 Germanic.Peoples

A model thought to be used by iberians.

[ScandinavianCelt]

It's exciting. I wish I had all my great-grandparent's DNA done! I don't even have my parents! (Only "imputed" versions)

[Beowulf]

MDLP K23b Mixed Mode is probably the one that makes more sense with her known ancestry:

1 57.7% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 42.3% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.38
2 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 14.9% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 2.62
3 61.4% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) + 38.6% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.65
4 81.8% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 18.2% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 2.66
5 60% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 40% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.68
6 77.4% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 22.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.7
7 89.9% Spaniard ( ) + 10.1% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 2.74
8 78.6% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 21.4% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 2.74
9 84.4% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 15.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.75
10 75.1% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 24.9% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 2.77
11 68.6% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 31.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.77
12 79.4% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 20.6% Gagauz ( ) @ 2.79
13 86.3% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 13.7% Italian_South ( ) @ 2.79
14 77.2% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 22.8% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) @ 2.8
15 85.4% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 14.6% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 2.8
16 74.1% Spaniard ( ) + 25.9% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.8
17 82.1% Spaniard ( ) + 17.9% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.81
18 90.8% Spaniard ( ) + 9.2% Italian_South ( ) @ 2.82
19 81.6% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 18.4% Maltese ( ) @ 2.83
20 84.1% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 15.9% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 2.84

[JerryS.]

MDLP K23b Mixed Mode is probably the one that makes more sense with her known ancestry:

1 57.7% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 42.3% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.38
2 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 14.9% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 2.62
3 61.4% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) + 38.6% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.65
4 81.8% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 18.2% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 2.66
5 60% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 40% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.68
6 77.4% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 22.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.7
7 89.9% Spaniard ( ) + 10.1% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 2.74
8 78.6% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 21.4% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 2.74
9 84.4% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 15.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.75
10 75.1% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 24.9% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 2.77
11 68.6% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 31.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.77
12 79.4% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 20.6% Gagauz ( ) @ 2.79
13 86.3% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 13.7% Italian_South ( ) @ 2.79
14 77.2% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 22.8% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) @ 2.8
15 85.4% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 14.6% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 2.8
16 74.1% Spaniard ( ) + 25.9% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.8
17 82.1% Spaniard ( ) + 17.9% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.81
18 90.8% Spaniard ( ) + 9.2% Italian_South ( ) @ 2.82
19 81.6% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 18.4% Maltese ( ) @ 2.83
20 84.1% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 15.9% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 2.84

MDLP K23B was a strange one for me.

Me and a female 1st cousin (our dads were brothers) gave her some inflated Spanish secondary and me the usual Italian-Greek.
On our breakdowns for non-North Sea pops she gets Red Sea and I get West Asian.

[Beowulf]

bump

[Beowulf]

bump

[Laredo]

Based from your recent ancestors you are not really ethically Spaniard right?

[Beowulf]

Her Dodecad K12b:


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Atlantic_Med
46.46


2
North_European
22.02


3
Caucasus
14.16


4
Southwest_Asian
5.78


5
Northwest_African
5.15


6
Gedrosia
5.07


</tbody>


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 3.738157
2 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 3.966833
3 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 4.728023
4 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 5.580067
5 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 5.743317
6 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 6.687097
7 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 8.118781
8 Spaniards_Behar @ 8.206425
9 Spanish_Dodecad @ 8.470222
10 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 9.097316
11 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 9.231722
12 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes @ 9.956772
13 North_Italian_HGDP @ 10.182746
14 Cantabria_1000Genomes @ 10.608119
15 Valencia_1000Genomes @ 10.905072
16 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 11.158090
17 Aragon_1000Genomes @ 11.661196
18 French_HGDP @ 17.087217
19 TSI30_Metspalu @ 17.281204
20 French_Dodecad @ 17.485424

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian_HGDP +50% Portuguese_Dodecad @ 2.700108


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes +25% Murcia_1000Genomes +25% O_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.366163


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Galicia_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 1.243801
2 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Portuguese_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.264519
3 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.366163
4 Galicia_1000Genomes + Portuguese_Dodecad + Spanish_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.376152
5 Canarias_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.424005
6 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.425614
7 Canarias_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP @ 1.427188
8 Galicia_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.432124
9 Extremadura_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.447507
10 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Portuguese_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.466169
11 Portuguese_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Spanish_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.474967
12 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 1.476551
13 Baleares_1000Genomes + Canarias_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad @ 1.506247
14 Cantabria_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 1.506593
15 Murcia_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Spanish_Dodecad @ 1.514618
16 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Spanish_Dodecad @ 1.516331
17 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Spanish_Dodecad @ 1.526319
18 Galicia_1000Genomes + Murcia_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 1.534530
19 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Portuguese_Dodecad + TSI30_Metspalu @ 1.540069
20 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + O_Italian_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad @ 1.542971



<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

84.4%
Murcia (1000Genomes)
+
15.6%
Bulgarian (Dodecad)
@
0.68


2

84.3%
Murcia (1000Genomes)
+
15.7%
Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)
@
0.7


3

84.1%
Murcia (1000Genomes)
+
15.9%
Romanians (Behar)
@
0.74


4

88.9%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
11.1%
Sicilian (Dodecad)
@
1.17


5

85.5%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
14.5%
C_Italian (Dodecad)
@
1.21


6

92.9%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
7.1%
Cypriots (Behar)
@
1.24


7

89.1%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
10.9%
S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)
@
1.25


8

90.2%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
9.8%
Ashkenazi (Dodecad)
@
1.31


9

90.4%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
9.6%
Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)
@
1.31


10

90.8%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
9.2%
Sephardic_Jews (Behar)
@
1.36


11

82.2%
Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes)
+
17.8%
Greek (Dodecad)
@
1.37


12

94.4%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
5.6%
Armenians (Behar)
@
1.38


13

75.1%
Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes)
+
24.9%
O_Italian (Dodecad)
@
1.4


14

64.9%
Portuguese (Dodecad)
+
35.1%
North_Italian (HGDP)
@
1.4


15

82.3%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
17.7%
TSI30 (Metspalu)
@
1.42


16

84%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
16%
Tuscan (HGDP)
@
1.43


17

94.3%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
5.7%
Armenian (Dodecad)
@
1.43


18

94.4%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
5.6%
Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev)
@
1.49


19

93.2%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
6.8%
Turkish (Dodecad)
@
1.5


20

94%
Galicia (1000Genomes)
+
6%
Druze (HGDP)
@
1.52



</tbody>

[Beowulf]

Oh yeah and ofc her real coords

Bisabuela_Cristobalina_Scaled,0.1120383,0.1457577, 0.0327597,-0.0083917,0.0391028,-0.0052432,-0.0016812,0.0025409,0.0199317,0.0299993,-0.001351,0.0074465,-0.0137035,-0.0092296,0.0074079,-0.0021438,-0.0021845,-0.0001773,-0.0027334,-0.0016202,-0.0005214,-0.0013147,0.0009322,0.0002918,-0.0007548


Bisabuela_Cristobalina_Unscaled,0.009843,0.014353, 0.008687,-0.002598,0.012706,-0.00188,-0.000715,0.001101,0.009745,0.016462,-0.000832,0.004969,-0.009218,-0.006706,0.005458,-0.001617,-0.001675,-0.00014,-0.002175,-0.001296,-0.000418,-0.001063,0.000756,0.000242,-0.00063

[Johnson Reed]

Oh yeah and ofc her real coords

Bisabuela_Cristobalina_Scaled,0.1120383,0.1457577, 0.0327597,-0.0083917,0.0391028,-0.0052432,-0.0016812,0.0025409,0.0199317,0.0299993,-0.001351,0.0074465,-0.0137035,-0.0092296,0.0074079,-0.0021438,-0.0021845,-0.0001773,-0.0027334,-0.0016202,-0.0005214,-0.0013147,0.0009322,0.0002918,-0.0007548


Bisabuela_Cristobalina_Unscaled,0.009843,0.014353, 0.008687,-0.002598,0.012706,-0.00188,-0.000715,0.001101,0.009745,0.016462,-0.000832,0.004969,-0.009218,-0.006706,0.005458,-0.001617,-0.001675,-0.00014,-0.002175,-0.001296,-0.000418,-0.001063,0.000756,0.000242,-0.00063

Target: Bisabuela_Cristobalina_Scaled
Distance: 2.8217% / 0.02821726
56.2 TUR_Barcin_N
31.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

How much Italian ancestry does she have? These results look more Western/Southern Iberian than they do North Italian. (The high Iberomaurusian (by European standards) and no Middle Eastern)

[Beowulf]

Target: Bisabuela_Cristobalina_Scaled
Distance: 2.8217% / 0.02821726
56.2 TUR_Barcin_N
31.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.8 WHG
3.8 MAR_Taforalt

How much Italian ancestry does she have? These results look more Western/Southern Iberian than they do North Italian. (The high Iberomaurusian (by European standards) and no Middle Eastern)

She is technically half Andalusian and half Ligurian, i heard that Lugirans sometimes score some Iberomaurisian or that they are even somehwhat closer to other iberians

[Johnson Reed]

She is technically half Andalusian and half Ligurian, i heard that Lugirans sometimes score some Iberomaurisian or that they are even somehwhat closer to other iberians

I just checked, and the average Ligurian scores 1.2% Iberomaurusian on G25, which means that her Andalusian parent probably scores about 6.4% Iberomaurusian.

[Beowulf]

I just checked, and the average Ligurian scores 1.2% Iberomaurusian on G25, which means that her Andalusian parent probably scores about 6.4% Iberomaurusian.

It's probable that's the case.