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axlredneck
02-04-2024, 02:54 PM
https://youtu.be/t3lgeUSfVSk

https://youtu.be/qS3QLkwblYo


Bulgarians are a nation and South Slavic ethnic group native to Bulgaria and its neighbouring region, who share a common Bulgarian ancestry, culture, history and language.

axlredneck
02-04-2024, 02:54 PM
This Bulgarian average includes Pomaks, Bessarabian Bulgarians, and Gagauz.
https://i.ibb.co/yXZjtkL/IMG-20240204-163205.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/z8C3tXj/IMG-20240204-163059.jpg

axlredneck
02-04-2024, 02:56 PM
Bulgarian_34,0.1224092,0.1351795,0.024192,-0.0006667,0.0228846,0.0003003,0.0050912,0.0042096,-0.0012949,0.0044975,-0.0012157,-0.0002779,0.0014468,0.0094707,-0.0122658,-0.0033523,0.0058299,-0.0002886,0.0036941,-0.0019152,-0.0054638,0.0001679,0.0035361,-0.0019152,-0.0002747
Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
pre-Slavic,0.115788643,0.155447054,-0.013210334,-0.058939577,0.013143349,-0.022893294,0.002382382,-0.004765177,-0.000258792,0.030021232,0.002857424,0.006665043,-0.012513063,-0.000258648,-0.016561192,-0.007127521,0.008360983,0.000961495,0.006018814,-0.005774845,-0.006167014,0.003723334,-0.000888079,0.000539588,-0.001172929
https://i.ibb.co/cwZwtgS/IMG-20240204-211415.png

axlredneck
02-04-2024, 02:56 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZdZ_1NLMdAeNGeB8hRXoxRsPPxrlZd 1lRhQ&usqp=CAU

axlredneck
02-04-2024, 03:00 PM
Found this on Wikipedia:

Bulgarians are descended from peoples of vastly different origins and numbers, and are thus the result of a "melting pot" effect. The main ethnic elements which blended in to produce the modern Bulgarian ethnicity are:

Thracians – a native ancient Balkan Indo-European people that left a cultural and genetic legacy. Approx. 55% of Bulgarian autosomal genetic legacy is of Paleo-Balkan and Mediterranean origin and can be attributed to Thracian and other indigenous Balkan population predating Slavs and Bulgars;

Early Slavs – an Indo-European group of tribes that migrated from Eastern Europe into the Balkans in the 6th–7th century CE and imposed their language and culture on the local Thracian, Roman and Greek communities. Approx. 40% of Bulgarian autosomal make-up comes from a northeastern European population that admixed with the native population in 400–1000 CE;

Bulgars – a semi-nomadic tribal federation from Central Asia that settled in the northeast of the Balkans in 7th century CE, federated with the local Slavic and Slavicized population, organised the early medieval Bulgarian statehood and bequeathed their ethnonym to the modern Bulgarian ethnicity, while eventually assimilating into the Slavic population. Approximately 2.3% of Bulgarian genes originate in Central Asia, corresponding to Asian tribes such as the Bulgars, with admixture peaking in the 9th century CE.

Except that their Turkic ancestry is from Oghuz, not Bulgars.

axlredneck
02-04-2024, 03:08 PM
Ottoman Y-lines in Bulgarians

https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1272/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1455/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-F16045/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-F5400/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-Y152278/
https://yfull.com/tree/N-A9416/

Kaspias
02-04-2024, 07:07 PM
Ottoman Y-lines in Bulgarians

https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1272/
https://yfull.com/tree/R-YP1455/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-F16045/
https://yfull.com/tree/Q-F5400/
https://yfull.com/tree/J-Y152278/
https://yfull.com/tree/N-A9416/

I just would speculate that Q-F16045 and N-A9416 are of Oghuz origin, although they are Turkic without doubt.

I and the Bulgarian from Vratsa match in STRs which points out a common ancestor in the last ~500 years. But the other subclades are in China and they are matching more closely with the Bulgarian in terms of SNP, but not matching through STRs. Neither do I match with the ones except for the Bulgarian from Vratsa. The puzzle remains.

Kaspias
02-04-2024, 07:14 PM
There is a paper on a Proto-Bulgarian inscription found in Serbia, for anyone interested: https://www.academia.edu/113197548/Veljkovi%C4%87_%C5%BD_B_Protobugarski_natpis_s_tro me%C4%91e_Ra%C5%A1ke_N_Pazara_i_Leposavi%C4%87a_20 23_EKZ_M44_

Dušan
02-04-2024, 07:21 PM
Bulgarian_34,0.1224092,0.1351795,0.024192,-0.0006667,0.0228846,0.0003003,0.0050912,0.0042096,-0.0012949,0.0044975,-0.0012157,-0.0002779,0.0014468,0.0094707,-0.0122658,-0.0033523,0.0058299,-0.0002886,0.0036941,-0.0019152,-0.0054638,0.0001679,0.0035361,-0.0019152,-0.0002747
Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
pre-Slavic,0.115788643,0.155447054,-0.013210334,-0.058939577,0.013143349,-0.022893294,0.002382382,-0.004765177,-0.000258792,0.030021232,0.002857424,0.006665043,-0.012513063,-0.000258648,-0.016561192,-0.007127521,0.008360983,0.000961495,0.006018814,-0.005774845,-0.006167014,0.003723334,-0.000888079,0.000539588,-0.001172929





Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4253% / 0.02425332
54.8 Slavic
43.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.8 Romani :eyes

Impaler
02-04-2024, 07:30 PM
Target: Father
Distance: 1.5268% / 0.01526783
46.2 Anatolian
29.2 Slavic
13.0 Romani
6.2 Bulgarian_34
2.8 Turkic
2.6 pre-Slavic

celticdragongod
02-04-2024, 11:23 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.08232693 Slavic
0.08613949 Bulgarian_34
0.13931556 Thracian
0.15585646 pre-Slavic
0.17849384 Anatolian
0.25977423 Turkic
0.38522429 Romani
0.47151877 MAR_EN

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 5.9297% / 0.05929650
68.4 Slavic
30.8 Thracian
0.8 Romani

axlredneck
02-05-2024, 06:58 AM
I just would speculate that Q-F16045 and N-A9416 are of Oghuz origin, although they are Turkic without doubt.

Are you implying that these are Oghuz Y-lines or that they aren't?

N-A9416 was found in a medieval Turk from Mugla.
https://i.ibb.co/88yhV0V/IMG-20240205-091519.jpg

Your Y-line is ofcourse enigmatic...

Annihilus
02-05-2024, 07:20 AM
Target: annihilus_v2_scaled
Distance: 2.7634% / 0.02763376 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6 Anatolian
43.2 Bulgarian_34
12.2 Turkic

Distance to: annihilus_v2_scaled
0.06143369 Bulgarian_34
0.07049669 pre-Slavic
0.07142406 Anatolian
0.08432911 Thracian
0.16129478 Slavic
0.21902101 Turkic
0.35225991 Romani
0.43800968 MAR_EN

oszkar07
02-05-2024, 07:58 AM
In your oppinion are

a) North Macedonians originally the same people as Bulgarians but splintered off and developed their
own identity and nuanced/specific culture.

b) are North Macedonians a historically seperate people with historical seperate identity but are similiar to Bulgarians.

C) North Macedonians a mixture of A & B.

D) North Macedonians a mixture of slavic speaking Bulgarians and Serbs.

I have asked this question here a few times and interestingly people seem to wanna avoid answering it.
Which seems weird because if someone asked are Bosnians originally Serb or Croats or Bosniaks, people are quite happy to give their oppinions and care little bout offending anyone.
But the Bulgarian - North Macedonian question often seems to be avoided.



Target: Oszkar
Distance: 3.7241% / 0.03724087
65.2 Slavic
34.2 Thracian
0.6 Turkic

majevica
02-05-2024, 08:46 AM
Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 1.8988% / 0.01898751
56.8 Slavic
31.6 Thracian
11.2 Anatolian
0.4 Turkic

axlredneck
02-05-2024, 12:44 PM
In your oppinion are

a) North Macedonians originally the same people as Bulgarians but splintered off and developed their
own identity and nuanced/specific culture.

b) are North Macedonians a historically seperate people with historical seperate identity but are similiar to Bulgarians.

C) North Macedonians a mixture of A & B.

D) North Macedonians a mixture of slavic speaking Bulgarians and Serbs.

I have asked this question here a few times and interestingly people seem to wanna avoid answering it.
Which seems weird because if someone asked are Bosnians originally Serb or Croats or Bosniaks, people are quite happy to give their oppinions and care little bout offending anyone.
But the Bulgarian - North Macedonian question often seems to be avoided.

No, they're not the same people.

https://i.ibb.co/GdvMbzs/IMG-20240205-160633.jpg

Balkan_IA = IA inhabitants of North Macedonia.
Hellenic_IA = Mycenaeans

ooops
02-05-2024, 04:29 PM
No, they're not the same people.

https://i.ibb.co/GdvMbzs/IMG-20240205-160633.jpg

Balkan_IA = IA inhabitants of North Macedonia.
Hellenic_IA = Mycenaeans

Macedonians were all the time identified as Bulgarians. They were brainwashed by Communists.
Regional differences exist among the French, Italians, Poles etc.
Also, those percentages of Slavic blood in the Balkans are internet pseudoscience.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ethnic_map_%281914%29.jpg/1024px-Ethnic_map_%281914%29.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ff/cc/93/ffcc93c6a9cd8f238b42aa65047c18d3.jpg

Kaspias
02-05-2024, 05:09 PM
Are you implying that these are Oghuz Y-lines or that they aren't?

N-A9416 was found in a medieval Turk from Mugla.
https://i.ibb.co/88yhV0V/IMG-20240205-091519.jpg

Your Y-line is ofcourse enigmatic...

Didn't know that N, thanks

axlredneck
02-06-2024, 05:04 AM
Bulgarian Y-DNA n=1170

E 22%
G 5.5%
H 0.6%
I1 4.1%
I2 22.3%
J1 3.1%
J2a 7.3%
J2b 5%
L 0.4%
N 0.6%
Q 0.5%
R1a 16%
R1b 10.8%
T 1.8%

axlredneck
02-07-2024, 06:09 AM
Any TA Bulgarians who wanna share their G25 coordinates?

protos
02-07-2024, 10:07 PM
Bulgarian_34,0.1224092,0.1351795,0.024192,-0.0006667,0.0228846,0.0003003,0.0050912,0.0042096,-0.0012949,0.0044975,-0.0012157,-0.0002779,0.0014468,0.0094707,-0.0122658,-0.0033523,0.0058299,-0.0002886,0.0036941,-0.0019152,-0.0054638,0.0001679,0.0035361,-0.0019152,-0.0002747
Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
pre-Slavic,0.115788643,0.155447054,-0.013210334,-0.058939577,0.013143349,-0.022893294,0.002382382,-0.004765177,-0.000258792,0.030021232,0.002857424,0.006665043,-0.012513063,-0.000258648,-0.016561192,-0.007127521,0.008360983,0.000961495,0.006018814,-0.005774845,-0.006167014,0.003723334,-0.000888079,0.000539588,-0.001172929

Distance to: protos_scaled
0.02017645 Bulgarian_34
0.05912101 Thracian
0.07314260 pre-Slavic
0.09855294 Anatolian
0.12653990 Slavic
0.25056540 Turkic
0.38172379 Romani
0.44726577 MAR_EN


Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901915
43.0 Thracian
28.0 Slavic
15.2 pre-Slavic
9.6 Bulgarian_34
2.6 Anatolian
1.6 Turkic

axlredneck
02-09-2024, 09:59 AM
Distance to: protos_scaled
0.02017645 Bulgarian_34
0.05912101 Thracian
0.07314260 pre-Slavic
0.09855294 Anatolian
0.12653990 Slavic
0.25056540 Turkic
0.38172379 Romani
0.44726577 MAR_EN


Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901915
43.0 Thracian
28.0 Slavic
15.2 pre-Slavic
9.6 Bulgarian_34
2.6 Anatolian
1.6 Turkic

Are you a full Serb? Why is your Slavic so low?

protos
02-09-2024, 10:31 AM
Are you a full Serb? Why is your Slavic so low?

Because I am high paleo-Balkan

djipon
02-09-2024, 09:33 PM
Target: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7591% / 0.00759147
29.6 Slavic
24.8 Bulgarian_34
16.0 Anatolian
15.2 pre-Slavic
12.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Romani
0.4 MAR_EN

Distance to: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00858127 Bulgarian_34
0.07198915 Thracian
0.08080354 pre-Slavic
0.10175664 Anatolian
0.11808533 Slavic
0.24174583 Turkic
0.37221705 Romani
0.44566364 MAR_EN

protos
02-09-2024, 10:02 PM
Target: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7591% / 0.00759147
29.6 Slavic
24.8 Bulgarian_34
16.0 Anatolian
15.2 pre-Slavic
12.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Romani
0.4 MAR_EN

Distance to: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00858127 Bulgarian_34
0.07198915 Thracian
0.08080354 pre-Slavic
0.10175664 Anatolian
0.11808533 Slavic
0.24174583 Turkic
0.37221705 Romani
0.44566364 MAR_EN

Try removing "pre-Slavic" and "Bulgarian_34", to see what you get. In your case a lot of Slavic gets hidden under "Bulgarian_34" category, but also some Anatolian.

axlredneck
02-10-2024, 11:06 AM
Target: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7591% / 0.00759147
29.6 Slavic
24.8 Bulgarian_34
16.0 Anatolian
15.2 pre-Slavic
12.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Romani
0.4 MAR_EN

Distance to: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00858127 Bulgarian_34
0.07198915 Thracian
0.08080354 pre-Slavic
0.10175664 Anatolian
0.11808533 Slavic
0.24174583 Turkic
0.37221705 Romani
0.44566364 MAR_EN

I'd recommend you buy real coordinates from Davidski or IllustrativeDNA.

djipon
02-10-2024, 09:54 PM
I'd recommend you buy real coordinates from Davidski or IllustrativeDNA.

Already done that(illustrativedna), gonna post all my results tomorrow :thumb001:

djipon
02-11-2024, 07:16 AM
Results with my real G25 coordinates:

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.02228781 Bulgarian_34
0.08014370 Thracian
0.08911308 pre-Slavic
0.10930588 Anatolian
0.11386974 Slavic
0.24287280 Turkic
0.37362785 Romani
0.45232320 MAR_EN

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1869% / 0.02186889
34.4 Slavic
23.2 Anatolian
21.6 Bulgarian_34
15.8 Thracian
3.6 pre-Slavic
1.2 Turkic
0.2 Romani

axlredneck
02-11-2024, 07:27 AM
Results with my real G25 coordinates:

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.02228781 Bulgarian_34
0.08014370 Thracian
0.08911308 pre-Slavic
0.10930588 Anatolian
0.11386974 Slavic
0.24287280 Turkic
0.37362785 Romani
0.45232320 MAR_EN

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1869% / 0.02186889
34.4 Slavic
23.2 Anatolian
21.6 Bulgarian_34
15.8 Thracian
3.6 pre-Slavic
1.2 Turkic
0.2 Romani

Use only these coordinates in the source window.

Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615

Also, can you share your coordinates? (PM them)

DamCz
02-11-2024, 07:48 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZdZ_1NLMdAeNGeB8hRXoxRsPPxrlZd 1lRhQ&usqp=CAU

So they got 20% E1b ? How much is that E-V13 and from Thracians or pre-Slavic people ? Albanians have way more for example ..also what clades are those r1b ?

axlredneck
02-11-2024, 01:22 PM
So they got 20% E1b ? How much is that E-V13 and from Thracians or pre-Slavic people ? Albanians have way more for example ..also what clades are those r1b ?

Dunno, I found it online.

djipon
02-11-2024, 01:58 PM
Use only these coordinates in the source window.

Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615

Also, can you share your coordinates? (PM them)

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.08014370 Thracian
0.10930588 Anatolian
0.11386974 Slavic
0.24287280 Turkic
0.37362785 Romani
0.45232320 MAR_EN

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1843% / 0.02184287
43.2 Slavic
30.8 Anatolian
24.0 Thracian
1.6 Turkic
0.4 Romani

axlredneck
02-12-2024, 11:50 AM
....

Here's a Romaniote under Q-L330. He most likely has a Balkan Turk paternal ancestor.

https://i.ibb.co/wLfXsvF/IMG-20240212-181410.jpg

djipon
02-13-2024, 09:15 PM
Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.08014370 Thracian
0.10930588 Anatolian
0.11386974 Slavic
0.24287280 Turkic
0.37362785 Romani
0.45232320 MAR_EN

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1843% / 0.02184287
43.2 Slavic
30.8 Anatolian
24.0 Thracian
1.6 Turkic
0.4 Romani

Should I consider these results when I look at illustrativeDNA's ancient mixed mode?

Far_away
02-13-2024, 11:02 PM
Bulgarian_34,0.1224092,0.1351795,0.024192,-0.0006667,0.0228846,0.0003003,0.0050912,0.0042096,-0.0012949,0.0044975,-0.0012157,-0.0002779,0.0014468,0.0094707,-0.0122658,-0.0033523,0.0058299,-0.0002886,0.0036941,-0.0019152,-0.0054638,0.0001679,0.0035361,-0.0019152,-0.0002747
Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
pre-Slavic,0.115788643,0.155447054,-0.013210334,-0.058939577,0.013143349,-0.022893294,0.002382382,-0.004765177,-0.000258792,0.030021232,0.002857424,0.006665043,-0.012513063,-0.000258648,-0.016561192,-0.007127521,0.008360983,0.000961495,0.006018814,-0.005774845,-0.006167014,0.003723334,-0.000888079,0.000539588,-0.001172929
https://i.ibb.co/cwZwtgS/IMG-20240204-211415.png


Distance: 2.4716% / 0.02471595
48.4 Slavic
36.8 Thracian
14.8 Anatolian

Adding Illyrians

Distance: 2.1153% / 0.02115339
40.8 Slavic
36.4 Illyrians
22.8 Anatolian

Far_away
02-13-2024, 11:05 PM
Distance to: protos_scaled
0.02017645 Bulgarian_34
0.05912101 Thracian
0.07314260 pre-Slavic
0.09855294 Anatolian
0.12653990 Slavic
0.25056540 Turkic
0.38172379 Romani
0.44726577 MAR_EN


Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901915
43.0 Thracian
28.0 Slavic
15.2 pre-Slavic
9.6 Bulgarian_34
2.6 Anatolian
1.6 Turkic

где си роде

axlredneck
02-24-2024, 12:47 PM
Two medieval Bulgarians.....
https://i.ibb.co/pRFdGwV/IMG-20240224-191642.jpg

axlredneck
02-24-2024, 01:05 PM
https://i.ibb.co/55ZGJrQ/IMG-20240224-193256.jpg

protos
02-24-2024, 01:19 PM
где си роде

Tek sam sada registrovao ovu poruku...

Far_away
02-24-2024, 01:30 PM
Резултати ти су ми били врло познати хехе

bained
02-29-2024, 12:03 AM
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.3716% / 0.01371559
49.4 Thracian
40.6 Slavic
9.0 Anatolian
1.0 MAR_EN

We bussin

Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.3831% / 0.01383099
38.4 Thracian
34.6 Slavic
15.6 Bulgarian_34
8.8 pre-Slavic
1.6 Anatolian
1.0 MAR_EN

protos
02-29-2024, 12:32 AM
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.3716% / 0.01371559
49.4 Thracian
40.6 Slavic
9.0 Anatolian
1.0 MAR_EN

We bussin

Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 1.3831% / 0.01383099
38.4 Thracian
34.6 Slavic
15.6 Bulgarian_34
8.8 pre-Slavic
1.6 Anatolian
1.0 MAR_EN

Cool results. We need more Bulgarian members sharing their results, so we can compare.

axlredneck
03-02-2024, 02:07 PM
https://i.ibb.co/5n3Q6xb/IMG-20240302-203350.jpg

axlredneck
03-02-2024, 02:12 PM
A west Bulgarian
https://i.ibb.co/84VYKzb/IMG-20240302-204056.jpg

Beowulf
03-02-2024, 02:19 PM
Bulgarian_34,0.1224092,0.1351795,0.024192,-0.0006667,0.0228846,0.0003003,0.0050912,0.0042096,-0.0012949,0.0044975,-0.0012157,-0.0002779,0.0014468,0.0094707,-0.0122658,-0.0033523,0.0058299,-0.0002886,0.0036941,-0.0019152,-0.0054638,0.0001679,0.0035361,-0.0019152,-0.0002747
Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.07745 9165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.0161641 1,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0. 0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
pre-Slavic,0.115788643,0.155447054,-0.013210334,-0.058939577,0.013143349,-0.022893294,0.002382382,-0.004765177,-0.000258792,0.030021232,0.002857424,0.006665043,-0.012513063,-0.000258648,-0.016561192,-0.007127521,0.008360983,0.000961495,0.006018814,-0.005774845,-0.006167014,0.003723334,-0.000888079,0.000539588,-0.001172929



with an iberian sample added:

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0203% / 0.02034513
65.0 Iberian
20.5 Slavic
14.5 Thracian

for fun of course.

djipon
03-02-2024, 02:23 PM
Damn, it will turn out Bulgarians, Macedonians, Pomaks, Gagauz and Balkan Turks are one and the same...

protos
03-02-2024, 03:52 PM
Damn, it will turn out Bulgarians, Macedonians, Pomaks, Gagauz and Balkan Turks are one and the same...

Bulgarians carry more Slavic genes than Macedonians.

When I leave only Thracian, Slavic, Anatolian, Turkic, Romani, and MAR_EN:

Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.8995% / 0.00899506
53.8 Thracian
31.8 Slavic
12.4 Anatolian
2.0 Turkic

djipon
03-02-2024, 09:27 PM
Bulgarians carry more Slavic genes than Macedonians.

When I leave only Thracian, Slavic, Anatolian, Turkic, Romani, and MAR_EN:

Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.8995% / 0.00899506
53.8 Thracian
31.8 Slavic
12.4 Anatolian
2.0 Turkic

My distance is huge if I leave Bulgarians out...

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1843% / 0.02184287
43.2 Slavic
30.8 Anatolian
24.0 Thracian
1.6 Turkic
0.4 Romani

axlredneck
03-03-2024, 05:04 AM
Damn, it will turn out Bulgarians, Macedonians, Pomaks, Gagauz and Balkan Turks are one and the same...

https://i.ibb.co/hy9vR4z/IMG-20240302-205946.jpg

Thracian
03-03-2024, 01:05 PM
https://i.ibb.co/hy9vR4z/IMG-20240302-205946.jpg

What calculator is this one?

djipon
03-03-2024, 01:45 PM
It is obvious Gagauz are closest to (if not) Bulgarians.

https://i.postimg.cc/vH5tqFGK/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/C1Zjb9vm/image.png


Bulgarian_Northcentral_simulated,0.1228,0.1389,0.0 276,0.0025,0.0252,0.0043,0.0052,0.0052,-0.0014,0.0026,0.0002,-0.0006,0.0014,0.0113,-0.0154,-0.0002,0.0078,-0.0016,0.0032,-0.0064,-0.0112,0.0012,0.0032,-0.004,0.0005
Bulgarian_Northeastern_simulated,0.1222,0.1429,0.0 236,0.0031,0.0281,0.0023,0.0032,0.0045,-0.0011,0.0036,0.0001,0.0001,-0.0023,0.0061,-0.0184,0.0046,0.0167,-0.0016,0.0063,-0.002,-0.0059,0.0019,0.0059,0.0015,0.0018
Bulgarian_Northwestern_simulated,0.1218,0.1362,0.0 348,0.0066,0.0242,0.0044,0.004,0.0079,-0.0001,0.002,-0.0008,-0.0012,-0.0013,0.0074,-0.012,0.0057,0.0121,-0.0035,0.0075,-0.0003,-0.0047,0.0031,0.0028,0.0032,-0.0029
Bulgarian_simulated,0.1229,0.1393,0.0285,0.003,0.0 258,0.0048,0.0053,0.0051,-0.001,0.0031,0.0003,-0.0005,0.0013,0.0117,-0.0156,-0.001,0.0073,-0.0015,0.0035,-0.0065,-0.0113,0.0011,0.0036,-0.0044,0.0004
Bulgarian_Southcentral_simulated,0.1229,0.1405,0.0 245,0.0007,0.0253,0.0043,0.0049,0.0041,-0.0016,0.0027,0.001,-0.0005,0.0008,0.0129,-0.0162,-0.0036,0.0067,-0.0008,0.0032,-0.0075,-0.0107,0.0009,0.004,-0.005,0.0008
Bulgarian_Southeastern_simulated,0.1224,0.1441,0.0 182,-0.0013,0.0266,0.0002,0.0022,0.0038,-0.0014,0.0028,0.0004,0,-0.0027,0.0067,-0.0181,0.0033,0.0161,-0.0013,0.0055,-0.004,-0.0065,0.002,0.0047,0.0009,0.0017
Bulgarian_Southwestern_simulated,0.1225,0.1382,0.0 31,0.004,0.0252,0.0047,0.005,0.0064,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.0005,-0.0001,0.0007,0.01,-0.0146,0.0005,0.0065,-0.0023,0.0044,-0.0053,-0.0114,0.0016,0.0031,-0.0037,-0.0004
Roma_Balkans_simulated,0.087,0.0623,-0.0561,0.0208,-0.0199,0.012,-0.0004,0.0033,0.0097,0.016,-0.0025,0.0009,0.0009,-0.0057,-0.0008,0.0053,0.0029,0.0023,0.006,-0.0078,0.0028,0.0015,-0.0015,-0.0054,0.0009
Roma_Wallachia_simulated,0.0898,0.0693,-0.048,0.0186,-0.0148,0.0094,-0.0003,0.0023,0.0082,0.0117,0,0.0012,-0.0003,-0.0024,-0.0048,-0.0004,-0.0024,0.0016,0.0056,-0.0081,0.0008,0.002,-0.0052,-0.0061,0.0046
Romanian_Banat_simulated,0.1262,0.1344,0.0378,0.01 02,0.0294,0.0045,0.004,0.0069,0.0008,-0.0005,-0.0011,-0.002,0.0005,0.0099,-0.012,0.0091,0.0103,-0.0017,0.0049,-0.006,-0.0076,0.0024,0.0019,0.0025,0.0005
Romanian_Crisana_simulated,0.1286,0.1338,0.0373,0. 0133,0.0315,0.0061,0.005,0.006,0.0017,0.001,-0.0017,-0.0003,-0.002,0.0083,-0.0091,0.0067,0.0082,0.0001,0.0036,-0.0053,-0.0053,0.0015,0.0013,0.0027,-0.0002
Romanian_Dobruja_simulated,0.1235,0.1351,0.0322,0. 0059,0.0253,0.0056,0.0045,0.0063,-0.0004,0.0031,-0.0001,-0.0003,-0.0006,0.0117,-0.013,-0.0006,0.0033,-0.0011,0.0052,-0.0062,-0.0086,0.0017,0.0038,-0.0022,-0.0001
Romanian_Maramures_simulated,0.1265,0.1338,0.0392, 0.0144,0.032,0.0078,0.0067,0.0072,0.0012,0.0025,-0.0034,-0.0021,-0.0043,0.006,-0.0063,-0.0005,0.005,0.0007,-0.0012,0.0002,-0.0052,0.0007,0.0005,0.0013,-0.0029
Romanian_Muntenia_simulated,0.1232,0.1361,0.0317,0 .0052,0.025,0.0053,0.0046,0.0064,-0.0004,0.0035,-0.0002,-0.0001,-0.0005,0.0111,-0.0133,-0.0006,0.004,-0.0015,0.0049,-0.0058,-0.0093,0.0017,0.0036,-0.0027,-0.0003
Romanian_North-Moldavia_simulated,0.1265,0.13,0.0411,0.0201,0.029 9,0.0087,0.0059,0.0076,-0.0002,-0.0012,-0.002,-0.0018,-0.0051,0.0089,-0.0044,-0.0018,0.0013,0.0023,0.0008,-0.0018,-0.0005,0.0011,0.0018,0.0026,-0.0027
Romanian_Oltenia_simulated,0.1241,0.1368,0.0343,0. 0062,0.027,0.0022,0.0036,0.0076,0.0009,0.0009,-0.0019,-0.0015,0.0009,0.0064,-0.0128,0.0115,0.0139,-0.0037,0.0048,-0.0043,-0.0099,0.0029,0.0004,0.0022,-0.0005
Romanian_simulated,0.1265,0.1337,0.0369,0.0097,0.0 287,0.0044,0.0032,0.0069,0.0011,0.0002,-0.0009,-0.0014,-0.0012,0.0105,-0.0112,0.007,0.0068,-0.001,0.0056,-0.0068,-0.0065,0.0025,0.0023,0.0024,0.0004
Romanian_South-Moldavia_simulated,0.1275,0.1323,0.0377,0.011,0.03 01,0.0054,0.0031,0.0063,0.0008,0.0001,-0.0005,-0.0017,-0.0016,0.0125,-0.0106,0.0049,0.0041,0.0004,0.0057,-0.0079,-0.0051,0.0019,0.0033,0.0026,0.0008
Romanian_Transylvania_simulated,0.1273,0.1333,0.03 8,0.0108,0.0298,0.0048,0.0034,0.0067,0.0012,-0.0002,-0.0008,-0.0016,-0.0009,0.0113,-0.0111,0.007,0.0064,-0.0006,0.0054,-0.0075,-0.0065,0.0023,0.0024,0.0024,0.0009
Romanian_Wallachia_simulated,0.1232,0.1362,0.032,0 .0055,0.0252,0.0057,0.0047,0.0063,-0.0004,0.0036,-0.0001,-0.0001,-0.0004,0.0115,-0.0135,-0.0012,0.0037,-0.0014,0.0049,-0.0058,-0.0094,0.0016,0.0039,-0.0031,-0.0002
Turkish_Crete_simulated,0.0959,0.1206,0.0038,-0.0286,0.0115,-0.0085,-0.0019,0.0033,0.0052,0.0113,0.0004,0.0046,0.0013,0 .0016,-0.0037,-0.0105,-0.0067,-0.0028,-0.0079,-0.0074,-0.0011,-0.0004,0.0011,-0.0045,-0.0021
Turkish_Deliorman_simulated,0.1167,0.1035,0.0172,-0.0028,0.0127,0.0022,0.0024,0.0036,-0.0094,-0.0035,-0.0023,0.0011,-0.0072,0.009,-0.0052,-0.0037,-0.0018,0.0002,0.0016,-0.0018,0.003,0.0024,0.0021,0.0023,0.0003
Turkish_East-Black_Sea_simulated,0.1073,0.1325,-0.0513,-0.0478,-0.027,-0.0099,0.0022,-0.0054,-0.0273,-0.0034,0.0074,0.0049,-0.0088,0.0008,-0.008,-0.0025,-0.0038,0.0016,0.006,-0.0074,0.0002,-0.0002,-0.0058,-0.0049,0.0004
Turkish_East_simulated,0.0988,0.1081,-0.0469,-0.0411,-0.0333,-0.0068,0.0029,-0.0055,-0.0274,-0.0094,0.0058,0.0034,-0.002,-0.0039,-0.0003,0.0023,-0.002,0.0034,0.0055,-0.0051,-0.0005,0.0013,-0.0024,-0.0061,-0.0003
Turkish_Eastcentral_simulated,0.0958,0.0822,-0.0326,-0.0392,-0.0272,-0.0114,0.0025,-0.0023,-0.021,0.0001,0.0026,0.0017,-0.0006,-0.0008,-0.0039,-0.0049,-0.0071,0.0012,0.004,-0.0048,0.0006,0.0007,0.0032,0.0002,0.0007
Turkish_Macedonia_simulated,0.1164,0.1264,0.0127,-0.0121,0.0172,-0.0009,0.0003,0.0026,-0.0028,0.011,-0.0002,-0.0009,-0.0052,0.0053,-0.0105,-0.0028,0.0018,0.0005,0.0031,-0.0049,-0.0036,-0.0012,0.0041,-0.0017,-0.0013
Turkish_Meskheti_simulated,0.1059,0.1308,-0.0597,-0.0522,-0.039,-0.0099,0.0052,-0.0037,-0.0406,-0.0086,0.0009,0.0078,-0.0094,0.0011,0.0004,0,0.0071,-0.0008,-0.0008,0,0.0036,0,0.0044,-0.0034,0.0001
Turkish_Northwest_simulated,0.0975,0.0547,-0.0125,-0.0312,-0.0182,-0.012,0.0034,-0.0007,-0.0148,-0.0009,-0.0019,0.0028,-0.0049,-0.0064,-0.0029,-0.0011,0.0018,-0.0006,-0.0016,-0.0002,0.0032,0.0024,0.0029,-0.0016,0.0001
Turkish_simulated,0.0975,0.0934,-0.0364,-0.0436,-0.0258,-0.0098,0.0027,-0.0013,-0.0245,0.001,0.0014,0.0033,-0.003,0.0016,-0.0043,-0.0071,-0.0078,0.002,0.0041,-0.0046,0.0006,0.0027,0.0021,0.0014,0.0001
Turkish_South_simulated,0.0923,0.0664,-0.0306,-0.0387,-0.0258,-0.0093,0.0035,-0.002,-0.0207,-0.0013,0.0003,0.0006,0.0003,0.0029,-0.0055,-0.0087,-0.0153,0.0039,0.0077,-0.0068,0.0033,0.0019,0.0018,0.0026,0.0005
Turkish_Southeast_simulated,0.0964,0.1026,-0.0471,-0.0441,-0.0303,-0.0095,0.0035,-0.0071,-0.0265,-0.0075,0.0048,0.0004,-0.0014,-0.0022,-0.0006,0.0002,-0.0022,0.0035,0.0056,-0.0044,-0.0018,0.0018,-0.0024,-0.005,-0.0023
Turkish_Thrace_simulated,0.1113,0.1065,0.0072,-0.0111,0.0068,-0.0003,0.002,0.0022,-0.0104,0.0005,-0.0013,0.0004,-0.0055,0.004,-0.0056,-0.0035,0.0024,-0.0015,-0.0022,0.0009,0.0033,0.001,0.0022,-0.0026,0.0018
Turkish_Westcentral_simulated,0.097,0.081,-0.0276,-0.0373,-0.0212,-0.009,0.0034,-0.0019,-0.019,0.0003,-0.0001,0.0017,-0.0007,0.0018,-0.0034,-0.0053,-0.0103,0.0024,0.0049,-0.005,0.0025,0.0009,0.0017,0.0029,-0.0001

djipon
04-23-2024, 09:32 AM
Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1854% / 0.02185423
39.6 Slavic
19.2 Anatolian
19.0 pre-Slavic
11.6 Thracian
8.8 Bulgarian_34
1.6 Turkic
0.2 Romani

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 2.7181% / 0.02718110
39.8 Slavic
26.2 Anatolian
14.0 pre-Slavic
13.0 Bulgarian_34
3.8 Thracian
3.2 Turkic

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8686% / 0.01868621
36.0 Slavic
25.2 Thracian
18.6 Anatolian
18.4 pre-Slavic
1.8 Turkic

axlredneck
05-10-2024, 10:52 AM
New Pomak coordinates:

PMK-100.01,0.118376,0.135065,0.02753,0.004845,0.028621 ,0.004462,0.00376,0.000462,-0.001636,-0.004009,-0.00406,0.002248,0.0055,0.004266,-0.008958,-0.000796,0.009388,0.002154,0.000754,-0.004252,-0.000499,-0.001113,0.008134,0.00494,-0.008502
PMK-100.02,0.122929,0.132019,0.028284,0.002907,0.02400 4,0,0.00517,0.010153,-0.001432,0.006196,0,-0.003747,0.002825,0.011698,-0.006515,0.006232,0.017732,-0.005068,0.003268,-0.003377,-0.008111,0.001607,-0.006286,0.005543,-0.011017
PMK-100.03,0.122929,0.129988,0.029793,0.015181,0.01538 7,0.008646,0.00658,0.013153,-0.001432,0.011663,-0.002273,-0.003147,0.002973,0.010872,-0.004479,0.008486,0.016428,0.002914,0.001508,-0.002251,-0.012977,-0.001731,0.001602,0.002048,-0.006347
PMK-100.04,0.122929,0.132019,0.024136,-0.005168,0.020004,-0.001952,0.00564,-0.001615,0.001636,0.004374,0.001461,0.002698,-0.008325,0.018304,-0.020901,-0.007955,-0.002477,-0.00114,0.000126,-0.007879,-0.017095,0.002968,0.002342,-0.00012,0.003592
PMK-100.05,0.124067,0.137096,0.026021,0.008398,0.02677 4,0.005578,0.00705,0.004154,-0.003272,0.000182,0.000487,0.002548,-0.001189,0.014313,-0.008279,-0.002387,0.008475,0.003674,0.001508,0,-0.010107,0.000989,0.005423,0.001205,-0.003353
PMK-100.06,0.119514,0.13405,0.020742,-0.000646,0.022158,-0.00251,0.00564,-0.003231,-0.005931,-0.002734,0.007632,-0.005395,0.00996,0.008395,-0.013165,0.007425,0.017602,-0.000507,0.00176,0.002876,-0.006988,-0.003091,0.001479,-0.002169,-0.002874
PMK-100.07,0.125205,0.14319,0.028284,-0.000646,0.026159,0,0.002585,0.005769,0.007363,0.0 10205,0.000487,-0.00015,0.002527,0.014038,-0.020494,-0.011668,-0.011213,0.000633,0.003771,-0.004127,-0.003494,-0.00507,0.004683,-0.006627,-0.00012
PMK-100.08,0.121791,0.137096,0.024136,0.002907,0.02523 5,-0.001116,0.001645,0.003,0.001227,0.006925,0.00065,-0.001948,0.003419,0.007294,-0.016151,0.008486,0.016037,0.000633,0.007416,-0.000125,0.002246,-0.002349,0.008627,0.002048,0.000958
PMK-100.09,0.121791,0.139128,0.033941,0.005814,0.03046 7,0.004462,0.003055,-0.000462,0.005931,-0.000729,0.00065,-0.003597,0.010704,0.019955,-0.012486,-0.006895,-0.003651,-0.000633,0.003017,-0.006378,-0.004991,-0.001237,0.002958,-0.00241,0.000239
PMK-100.10,0.118376,0.141159,0.021873,0.007752,0.02031 1,0.005299,0.00188,0.002769,0.001227,0.001276,0.00 0974,-0.001948,0.005352,0.009083,-0.013436,-0.009281,-0.008345,0.003041,0.000754,-0.004502,-0.001622,0.003957,0.007148,-0.004579,-0.002275
PMK-100.11,0.124067,0.13405,0.029793,0.010013,0.017849 ,0.003068,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.006136,-0.004191,0.005684,-0.000749,0.004162,0.008395,-0.009908,-0.007425,0.008084,0.003294,0.000628,0.001251,-0.002745,-0.000495,0.002342,-0.001928,-0.002275
PMK-100.12,0.129758,0.137096,0.035826,0.007429,0.02246 6,0.001116,0.009635,0.004384,-0.001636,0.000364,-0.003897,0.002997,0.004014,0.011285,-0.01045,0.003713,0.00339,-0.000633,0.004274,0.004627,-0.004118,-0.00136,0.006902,-0.010724,-0.006227
PMK-100.13,0.121791,0.142174,0.026776,0.002261,0.02215 8,0.001952,0.004935,0.003,0.000409,0.007107,0.0008 12,-0.001049,0.004014,0.010322,-0.012622,-0.005701,0.009388,-0.001394,0.001257,-0.003001,-0.004243,-0.006677,0.001232,0.002169,0.000958
PMK-100.14,0.125205,0.135065,0.01961,0.00969,0.02185,0 .001952,-0.001175,-0.000692,-0.011453,0.002005,0.00065,-0.003597,0.005798,0.016928,-0.018865,-0.002387,0.007693,0.002787,0.005279,-0.004127,-0.011605,0.001978,0.005916,-0.003976,-0.005868
PMK-100.15,0.124067,0.136081,0.028284,0.002584,0.03200 6,0.003068,0.008225,-0.001615,-0.001432,0.005467,-0.002111,-0.001199,0.004906,0.012661,-0.016829,-0.011933,-0.008084,0.0019,0.008296,-0.009505,-0.00262,0.000495,-0.0053,-0.004097,0.005389
PMK-100.16,0.129758,0.127957,0.031301,0.010336,0.02277 3,0.003904,0.00564,0.009461,-0.000205,0.005832,0.004384,-0.000749,0.002081,0.01734,-0.016965,-0.0118,-0.007953,0.003927,0.006662,-0.007504,-0.003993,-0.004451,0.002958,0.006145,-0.005748
PMK-100.17,0.122929,0.127957,0.027907,0.005814,0.03231 4,0.001394,0.0047,-0.001154,-0.003886,0.001276,-0.009256,-0.002248,0.006838,0.019405,-0.014251,-0.012596,-0.004824,0.002407,0.011061,-0.011255,-0.006738,-0.00136,0.007272,0.005181,0.00491
PMK-100.18,0.132035,0.133034,0.029415,0.000969,0.02554 3,-0.000558,0.003525,0,-0.000614,0.004556,0.002761,0.003147,-0.006838,0.001239,-0.018187,0.003182,0.02047,-0.001394,0.003771,0.004377,-0.009733,0.001978,0.001972,-0.001084,-0.007065
PMK-100.19,0.120652,0.129988,0.034695,0.010013,0.02708 2,0.001952,0.00423,0.007846,-0.00409,0.006196,0.000162,-0.003147,0.00773,0.010872,-0.012622,0,0.004694,-0.007221,0.008547,0.003252,-0.005241,-0.008656,0.006532,0.000241,-0.001197
PMK-100.20,0.118376,0.125926,0.026398,0.015827,0.02246 6,0.003347,0.00611,0.006692,-0.001841,0,-0.001949,-0.002847,0.003271,0.009083,-0.006107,0.002121,0.004172,-0.007475,0.004022,0.001626,-0.001872,-0.006059,0.001972,0.00494,-0.005149
PMK-100.21,0.114961,0.132019,0.028661,0.007429,0.02215 8,0.003626,0.001175,0.004154,-0.003886,0.00492,0.003573,-0.003597,0.003568,0.012799,-0.011808,0.002121,0.01017,-0.005448,0.007416,0.002001,-0.002745,0.000989,0.004314,-0.000482,-0.000718
PMK-100.22,0.120652,0.132019,0.026021,-0.000969,0.025851,0.004741,-0.000705,0.006,0.002863,0.007289,-0.002111,-0.004796,0.002676,0.005092,-0.012893,0.013922,0.01695,-0.007475,0.004777,0.005002,-0.00549,-0.001484,0.003081,0.008194,0.000359
PMK-100.23,0.126344,0.142174,0.028284,0.007752,0.03108 3,0.003347,0.00423,0.005307,-0.007158,0.003462,0.000325,-0.007044,0.003122,0.021056,-0.012215,-0.012331,-0.004042,-0.002534,0.005782,-0.013757,-0.007112,0.000371,0.003081,0.00494,-0.003473
PMK-100.24,0.124067,0.139128,0.019987,0.007429,0.02431 2,0.002231,0.00799,-0.000692,-0.003681,0.001458,-0.001299,0.00045,0.000446,0.003991,-0.012486,-0.004243,0.00678,0.006588,0.002765,0.003502,-0.008485,0.006801,0.005916,0.003133,0.002515
PMK-300.01,0.126344,0.140143,0.026776,0,0.024312,0.000 558,-0.00658,0.006461,0.001432,0.007654,-0.004222,0.000599,-0.001635,0.006331,-0.017372,-0.001458,0.014864,-0.005574,0.001257,0.004627,0.001248,-0.002102,-0.000739,0.006386,0.004311
PMK-300.01_o,0.113823,0.113739,0.010559,-0.006783,0.008001,-0.002789,0.001175,0.004384,-0.008385,-0.003462,-0.007632,0.00015,0.002081,0.013762,-0.003529,-0.01127,-0.007562,-0.00076,0.003142,-0.003502,-0.004492,0.004575,0.008258,-0.001325,0.001916
PMK-300.02,0.120652,0.145221,0.02489,0.001292,0.018157 ,-0.004741,0.014571,0.005077,-0.003068,0.010387,0.000974,-0.001798,0.00773,0.014313,-0.02823,-0.008618,0.008214,-0.009248,0.005908,0.002626,-0.009358,-0.007296,0.003204,0.000361,-0.005269
PMK-300.03,0.124067,0.126941,0.026776,0.00323,0.024312 ,0.001673,0.00611,-0.001846,-0.010635,0.005103,0.00341,-0.001649,0.008771,0.012524,-0.013572,-0.003447,0.004172,0.00114,0.005656,-0.001126,-0.00836,-0.003215,0.005176,-0.00482,-0.004071
PMK-300.04,0.124067,0.139128,0.02753,0.002261,0.02462, 0.009761,0.003055,-0.003231,-0.004704,0.010752,0.002111,-0.005095,0.000892,0.014313,-0.007329,-0.004508,-0.000913,0.004181,0.006285,-0.005253,-0.003868,-0.001237,0.009244,-0.004097,-0.000838
PMK-300.05,0.126344,0.127957,0.027153,-0.005491,0.022773,-0.000279,0.00047,0.009923,0.000409,0.006378,0.0090 94,-0.004196,0.003122,0.007432,-0.004479,0.011138,0.009388,-0.007728,-0.002011,0.006253,-0.002995,0.003091,0.000616,-0.001205,-0.000479
PMK-300.06,0.125205,0.133034,0.024513,-0.000646,0.017849,0.000279,-0.00658,0.006461,0.000409,0.002916,-0.002761,0.000899,0.003568,-0.001514,-0.017779,0.003978,0.019297,-0.001774,0.001257,0.009004,0.00549,0.000618,0.0039 44,0.005543,0.002155
PMK-300.07,0.121791,0.132019,0.014331,-0.000323,0.014772,-0.000558,0.00517,0.001615,-0.005113,0,-0.000974,-0.000749,0.004757,0.008533,-0.008958,0.005834,0.003651,0.005068,0.008799,-0.005503,-0.008485,-0.000618,0.002342,0.005302,-0.000599
PMK-300.08,0.122929,0.137096,0.024136,0.002261,0.02092 7,0.00502,-0.00047,-0.005307,-0.002659,0.001458,0.002923,-0.004646,0.002825,0.011285,-0.019137,-0.006629,0.004694,0.000127,0.00729,-0.005503,-0.007861,-0.006059,-0.000616,0.000361,-0.012334
PMK-300.09,0.117238,0.137096,0.02225,-0.006137,0.028005,-0.001394,0.00047,0.003,0.001841,0.009659,0.003573, 0.001049,0.003568,0.006055,-0.016422,0.005834,0.008736,-0.003041,0.001131,-0.008254,-0.010482,0.00136,0.000739,0.001084,-0.00491
PMK-300.10,0.129758,0.131003,0.030547,0.000323,0.02308 1,0.002231,0.00517,0.004615,-0.004704,0.002916,0,-0.001499,0.001933,0.013625,-0.016015,0.008088,0.001565,-0.000253,0.005531,-0.002626,-0.012603,-0.007172,0.012695,-0.005543,-0.001916
PMK-300.11,0.127482,0.135065,0.015462,-0.002584,0.022466,-0.005299,0.003055,0.004384,-0.000818,0.00893,0.00065,0.005845,0.002379,0.00963 4,-0.008143,-0.002784,0.004563,-0.004434,0.005028,-0.007504,-0.005989,-0.002968,0.002588,0.003012,-0.003592
PMK-807.01,0.1161,0.135065,0.019987,-0.009367,0.024004,-0.008367,0.00376,0.000923,-0.00634,0.002551,0.003085,0.002847,0.002527,0.0011 01,-0.020494,0.010209,0.019688,0.000253,0.005531,0.000 125,0.000624,-0.000495,-0.001109,0.000361,0.005029
PMK-807.02,0.122929,0.137096,0.02489,-0.007429,0.020004,0.00251,0.003055,0.000692,-0.001432,0.007836,-0.005521,-0.001649,-0.002825,0.011836,-0.015608,0.000133,0.005085,0.001394,0.001257,5e-04,-0.001622,0.003586,0.012571,-0.001084,-0.002395

MandM
05-10-2024, 01:19 PM
Target: MandM
Distance: 2.0149% / 0.02014900
41.8 Slavic
32.8 Thracian
16.0 pre-Slavic
7.8 Anatolian
1.6 Turkic

MandM
05-10-2024, 01:26 PM
Bulgarians seems to have quite high Anatolian,is that Greek or proto Anatolian

djipon
05-10-2024, 01:39 PM
New Pomak coordinates:

PMK-100.01,0.118376,0.135065,0.02753,0.004845,0.028621 ,0.004462,0.00376,0.000462,-0.001636,-0.004009,-0.00406,0.002248,0.0055,0.004266,-0.008958,-0.000796,0.009388,0.002154,0.000754,-0.004252,-0.000499,-0.001113,0.008134,0.00494,-0.008502
PMK-100.02,0.122929,0.132019,0.028284,0.002907,0.02400 4,0,0.00517,0.010153,-0.001432,0.006196,0,-0.003747,0.002825,0.011698,-0.006515,0.006232,0.017732,-0.005068,0.003268,-0.003377,-0.008111,0.001607,-0.006286,0.005543,-0.011017
PMK-100.03,0.122929,0.129988,0.029793,0.015181,0.01538 7,0.008646,0.00658,0.013153,-0.001432,0.011663,-0.002273,-0.003147,0.002973,0.010872,-0.004479,0.008486,0.016428,0.002914,0.001508,-0.002251,-0.012977,-0.001731,0.001602,0.002048,-0.006347
PMK-100.04,0.122929,0.132019,0.024136,-0.005168,0.020004,-0.001952,0.00564,-0.001615,0.001636,0.004374,0.001461,0.002698,-0.008325,0.018304,-0.020901,-0.007955,-0.002477,-0.00114,0.000126,-0.007879,-0.017095,0.002968,0.002342,-0.00012,0.003592
PMK-100.05,0.124067,0.137096,0.026021,0.008398,0.02677 4,0.005578,0.00705,0.004154,-0.003272,0.000182,0.000487,0.002548,-0.001189,0.014313,-0.008279,-0.002387,0.008475,0.003674,0.001508,0,-0.010107,0.000989,0.005423,0.001205,-0.003353
PMK-100.06,0.119514,0.13405,0.020742,-0.000646,0.022158,-0.00251,0.00564,-0.003231,-0.005931,-0.002734,0.007632,-0.005395,0.00996,0.008395,-0.013165,0.007425,0.017602,-0.000507,0.00176,0.002876,-0.006988,-0.003091,0.001479,-0.002169,-0.002874
PMK-100.07,0.125205,0.14319,0.028284,-0.000646,0.026159,0,0.002585,0.005769,0.007363,0.0 10205,0.000487,-0.00015,0.002527,0.014038,-0.020494,-0.011668,-0.011213,0.000633,0.003771,-0.004127,-0.003494,-0.00507,0.004683,-0.006627,-0.00012
PMK-100.08,0.121791,0.137096,0.024136,0.002907,0.02523 5,-0.001116,0.001645,0.003,0.001227,0.006925,0.00065,-0.001948,0.003419,0.007294,-0.016151,0.008486,0.016037,0.000633,0.007416,-0.000125,0.002246,-0.002349,0.008627,0.002048,0.000958
PMK-100.09,0.121791,0.139128,0.033941,0.005814,0.03046 7,0.004462,0.003055,-0.000462,0.005931,-0.000729,0.00065,-0.003597,0.010704,0.019955,-0.012486,-0.006895,-0.003651,-0.000633,0.003017,-0.006378,-0.004991,-0.001237,0.002958,-0.00241,0.000239
PMK-100.10,0.118376,0.141159,0.021873,0.007752,0.02031 1,0.005299,0.00188,0.002769,0.001227,0.001276,0.00 0974,-0.001948,0.005352,0.009083,-0.013436,-0.009281,-0.008345,0.003041,0.000754,-0.004502,-0.001622,0.003957,0.007148,-0.004579,-0.002275
PMK-100.11,0.124067,0.13405,0.029793,0.010013,0.017849 ,0.003068,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.006136,-0.004191,0.005684,-0.000749,0.004162,0.008395,-0.009908,-0.007425,0.008084,0.003294,0.000628,0.001251,-0.002745,-0.000495,0.002342,-0.001928,-0.002275
PMK-100.12,0.129758,0.137096,0.035826,0.007429,0.02246 6,0.001116,0.009635,0.004384,-0.001636,0.000364,-0.003897,0.002997,0.004014,0.011285,-0.01045,0.003713,0.00339,-0.000633,0.004274,0.004627,-0.004118,-0.00136,0.006902,-0.010724,-0.006227
PMK-100.13,0.121791,0.142174,0.026776,0.002261,0.02215 8,0.001952,0.004935,0.003,0.000409,0.007107,0.0008 12,-0.001049,0.004014,0.010322,-0.012622,-0.005701,0.009388,-0.001394,0.001257,-0.003001,-0.004243,-0.006677,0.001232,0.002169,0.000958
PMK-100.14,0.125205,0.135065,0.01961,0.00969,0.02185,0 .001952,-0.001175,-0.000692,-0.011453,0.002005,0.00065,-0.003597,0.005798,0.016928,-0.018865,-0.002387,0.007693,0.002787,0.005279,-0.004127,-0.011605,0.001978,0.005916,-0.003976,-0.005868
PMK-100.15,0.124067,0.136081,0.028284,0.002584,0.03200 6,0.003068,0.008225,-0.001615,-0.001432,0.005467,-0.002111,-0.001199,0.004906,0.012661,-0.016829,-0.011933,-0.008084,0.0019,0.008296,-0.009505,-0.00262,0.000495,-0.0053,-0.004097,0.005389
PMK-100.16,0.129758,0.127957,0.031301,0.010336,0.02277 3,0.003904,0.00564,0.009461,-0.000205,0.005832,0.004384,-0.000749,0.002081,0.01734,-0.016965,-0.0118,-0.007953,0.003927,0.006662,-0.007504,-0.003993,-0.004451,0.002958,0.006145,-0.005748
PMK-100.17,0.122929,0.127957,0.027907,0.005814,0.03231 4,0.001394,0.0047,-0.001154,-0.003886,0.001276,-0.009256,-0.002248,0.006838,0.019405,-0.014251,-0.012596,-0.004824,0.002407,0.011061,-0.011255,-0.006738,-0.00136,0.007272,0.005181,0.00491
PMK-100.18,0.132035,0.133034,0.029415,0.000969,0.02554 3,-0.000558,0.003525,0,-0.000614,0.004556,0.002761,0.003147,-0.006838,0.001239,-0.018187,0.003182,0.02047,-0.001394,0.003771,0.004377,-0.009733,0.001978,0.001972,-0.001084,-0.007065
PMK-100.19,0.120652,0.129988,0.034695,0.010013,0.02708 2,0.001952,0.00423,0.007846,-0.00409,0.006196,0.000162,-0.003147,0.00773,0.010872,-0.012622,0,0.004694,-0.007221,0.008547,0.003252,-0.005241,-0.008656,0.006532,0.000241,-0.001197
PMK-100.20,0.118376,0.125926,0.026398,0.015827,0.02246 6,0.003347,0.00611,0.006692,-0.001841,0,-0.001949,-0.002847,0.003271,0.009083,-0.006107,0.002121,0.004172,-0.007475,0.004022,0.001626,-0.001872,-0.006059,0.001972,0.00494,-0.005149
PMK-100.21,0.114961,0.132019,0.028661,0.007429,0.02215 8,0.003626,0.001175,0.004154,-0.003886,0.00492,0.003573,-0.003597,0.003568,0.012799,-0.011808,0.002121,0.01017,-0.005448,0.007416,0.002001,-0.002745,0.000989,0.004314,-0.000482,-0.000718
PMK-100.22,0.120652,0.132019,0.026021,-0.000969,0.025851,0.004741,-0.000705,0.006,0.002863,0.007289,-0.002111,-0.004796,0.002676,0.005092,-0.012893,0.013922,0.01695,-0.007475,0.004777,0.005002,-0.00549,-0.001484,0.003081,0.008194,0.000359
PMK-100.23,0.126344,0.142174,0.028284,0.007752,0.03108 3,0.003347,0.00423,0.005307,-0.007158,0.003462,0.000325,-0.007044,0.003122,0.021056,-0.012215,-0.012331,-0.004042,-0.002534,0.005782,-0.013757,-0.007112,0.000371,0.003081,0.00494,-0.003473
PMK-100.24,0.124067,0.139128,0.019987,0.007429,0.02431 2,0.002231,0.00799,-0.000692,-0.003681,0.001458,-0.001299,0.00045,0.000446,0.003991,-0.012486,-0.004243,0.00678,0.006588,0.002765,0.003502,-0.008485,0.006801,0.005916,0.003133,0.002515
PMK-300.01,0.126344,0.140143,0.026776,0,0.024312,0.000 558,-0.00658,0.006461,0.001432,0.007654,-0.004222,0.000599,-0.001635,0.006331,-0.017372,-0.001458,0.014864,-0.005574,0.001257,0.004627,0.001248,-0.002102,-0.000739,0.006386,0.004311
PMK-300.01_o,0.113823,0.113739,0.010559,-0.006783,0.008001,-0.002789,0.001175,0.004384,-0.008385,-0.003462,-0.007632,0.00015,0.002081,0.013762,-0.003529,-0.01127,-0.007562,-0.00076,0.003142,-0.003502,-0.004492,0.004575,0.008258,-0.001325,0.001916
PMK-300.02,0.120652,0.145221,0.02489,0.001292,0.018157 ,-0.004741,0.014571,0.005077,-0.003068,0.010387,0.000974,-0.001798,0.00773,0.014313,-0.02823,-0.008618,0.008214,-0.009248,0.005908,0.002626,-0.009358,-0.007296,0.003204,0.000361,-0.005269
PMK-300.03,0.124067,0.126941,0.026776,0.00323,0.024312 ,0.001673,0.00611,-0.001846,-0.010635,0.005103,0.00341,-0.001649,0.008771,0.012524,-0.013572,-0.003447,0.004172,0.00114,0.005656,-0.001126,-0.00836,-0.003215,0.005176,-0.00482,-0.004071
PMK-300.04,0.124067,0.139128,0.02753,0.002261,0.02462, 0.009761,0.003055,-0.003231,-0.004704,0.010752,0.002111,-0.005095,0.000892,0.014313,-0.007329,-0.004508,-0.000913,0.004181,0.006285,-0.005253,-0.003868,-0.001237,0.009244,-0.004097,-0.000838
PMK-300.05,0.126344,0.127957,0.027153,-0.005491,0.022773,-0.000279,0.00047,0.009923,0.000409,0.006378,0.0090 94,-0.004196,0.003122,0.007432,-0.004479,0.011138,0.009388,-0.007728,-0.002011,0.006253,-0.002995,0.003091,0.000616,-0.001205,-0.000479
PMK-300.06,0.125205,0.133034,0.024513,-0.000646,0.017849,0.000279,-0.00658,0.006461,0.000409,0.002916,-0.002761,0.000899,0.003568,-0.001514,-0.017779,0.003978,0.019297,-0.001774,0.001257,0.009004,0.00549,0.000618,0.0039 44,0.005543,0.002155
PMK-300.07,0.121791,0.132019,0.014331,-0.000323,0.014772,-0.000558,0.00517,0.001615,-0.005113,0,-0.000974,-0.000749,0.004757,0.008533,-0.008958,0.005834,0.003651,0.005068,0.008799,-0.005503,-0.008485,-0.000618,0.002342,0.005302,-0.000599
PMK-300.08,0.122929,0.137096,0.024136,0.002261,0.02092 7,0.00502,-0.00047,-0.005307,-0.002659,0.001458,0.002923,-0.004646,0.002825,0.011285,-0.019137,-0.006629,0.004694,0.000127,0.00729,-0.005503,-0.007861,-0.006059,-0.000616,0.000361,-0.012334
PMK-300.09,0.117238,0.137096,0.02225,-0.006137,0.028005,-0.001394,0.00047,0.003,0.001841,0.009659,0.003573, 0.001049,0.003568,0.006055,-0.016422,0.005834,0.008736,-0.003041,0.001131,-0.008254,-0.010482,0.00136,0.000739,0.001084,-0.00491
PMK-300.10,0.129758,0.131003,0.030547,0.000323,0.02308 1,0.002231,0.00517,0.004615,-0.004704,0.002916,0,-0.001499,0.001933,0.013625,-0.016015,0.008088,0.001565,-0.000253,0.005531,-0.002626,-0.012603,-0.007172,0.012695,-0.005543,-0.001916
PMK-300.11,0.127482,0.135065,0.015462,-0.002584,0.022466,-0.005299,0.003055,0.004384,-0.000818,0.00893,0.00065,0.005845,0.002379,0.00963 4,-0.008143,-0.002784,0.004563,-0.004434,0.005028,-0.007504,-0.005989,-0.002968,0.002588,0.003012,-0.003592
PMK-807.01,0.1161,0.135065,0.019987,-0.009367,0.024004,-0.008367,0.00376,0.000923,-0.00634,0.002551,0.003085,0.002847,0.002527,0.0011 01,-0.020494,0.010209,0.019688,0.000253,0.005531,0.000 125,0.000624,-0.000495,-0.001109,0.000361,0.005029
PMK-807.02,0.122929,0.137096,0.02489,-0.007429,0.020004,0.00251,0.003055,0.000692,-0.001432,0.007836,-0.005521,-0.001649,-0.002825,0.011836,-0.015608,0.000133,0.005085,0.001394,0.001257,5e-04,-0.001622,0.003586,0.012571,-0.001084,-0.002395

Are you sure those are all Pomak? It is either proof Pomaks=Bulgarians 100%, or idk...

When added to my Bulgarian Calculator, it overtakes all my Bulgarian samples. Pomaks "the purest" Bulgarians?(we have such saying in Bulgaria, maybe it is true)

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 1.6070% / 0.01606972
93.2 PMK
5.2 Turkish_Rumeli
1.0 Syrian_simulated
0.6 Russian_simulated

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 1.3755% / 0.01375530
75.6 PMK
8.4 Syrian_simulated
7.4 Russian_simulated
6.0 Turkish_Deliorman
1.6 Armenian_simulated
1.0 Turkish_Rumeli

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 1.5926% / 0.01592600
68.6 PMK
19.0 North_Macedonian
5.6 Bulgarian
5.0 Greek
1.8 Armenian_simulated

axlredneck
05-10-2024, 04:41 PM
Bulgarians seems to have quite high Anatolian,is that Greek or proto Anatolian

Hellenized Anatolian.

axlredneck
05-10-2024, 04:42 PM
Are you sure those are all Pomak? It is either proof Pomaks=Bulgarians 100%, or idk...

When added to my Bulgarian Calculator, it overtakes all my Bulgarian samples. Pomaks "the purest" Bulgarians?(we have such saying in Bulgaria, maybe it is true)

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 1.6070% / 0.01606972
93.2 PMK
5.2 Turkish_Rumeli
1.0 Syrian_simulated
0.6 Russian_simulated

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 1.3755% / 0.01375530
75.6 PMK
8.4 Syrian_simulated
7.4 Russian_simulated
6.0 Turkish_Deliorman
1.6 Armenian_simulated
1.0 Turkish_Rumeli

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 1.5926% / 0.01592600
68.6 PMK
19.0 North_Macedonian
5.6 Bulgarian
5.0 Greek
1.8 Armenian_simulated

Pomaks are Muslim Bulgarians.

djipon
05-10-2024, 09:02 PM
Pomaks are Muslim Bulgarians.

Should they be listen under Bulgarians on calculators then, and not separate, as this can obviously confuse someone into thinking he/she is specifically of Muslim Bulgarian origin? 8/10 Bulgarian samples of friends of mine + my family that I compared, all score those Pomak samples on top.

What's the difference between those samples and these two: ?


Pomak:Bulgaria_simulated,0.1238,0.1405,0.0277,0.00 23,0.0274,0.0026,0.005,0.0047,-0.0009,0.0011,-0.0005,-0.0014,0.0029,0.0097,-0.0161,0.0055,0.0135,-0.0022,0.0023,-0.0068,-0.0125,0.0013,0.0017,-0.0024,0.0012
Pomak:Greece_simulated,0.122,0.1352,0.0256,0.0016, 0.0236,0.0014,0.0047,0.0053,-0.0039,-0.0003,-0.0017,-0.0014,0.0022,0.0063,-0.0137,0.0084,0.0148,-0.0034,0.0014,-0.0036,-0.0117,0.0013,0.0003,-0.0002,0.0002

These you can't score so easily when running calculators...

axlredneck
05-11-2024, 06:30 AM
Should they be listen under Bulgarians on calculators then, and not separate, as this can obviously confuse someone into thinking he/she is specifically of Muslim Bulgarian origin? 8/10 Bulgarian samples of friends of mine + my family that I compared, all score those Pomak samples on top.

What's the difference between those samples and these two: ?


Pomak:Bulgaria_simulated,0.1238,0.1405,0.0277,0.00 23,0.0274,0.0026,0.005,0.0047,-0.0009,0.0011,-0.0005,-0.0014,0.0029,0.0097,-0.0161,0.0055,0.0135,-0.0022,0.0023,-0.0068,-0.0125,0.0013,0.0017,-0.0024,0.0012
Pomak:Greece_simulated,0.122,0.1352,0.0256,0.0016, 0.0236,0.0014,0.0047,0.0053,-0.0039,-0.0003,-0.0017,-0.0014,0.0022,0.0063,-0.0137,0.0084,0.0148,-0.0034,0.0014,-0.0036,-0.0117,0.0013,0.0003,-0.0002,0.0002

These you can't score so easily when running calculators...

Simulated coordinates aren't real coordinates.

korkybus
05-13-2024, 09:51 AM
Are you sure those are all Pomak? It is either proof Pomaks=Bulgarians 100%, or idk...

When added to my Bulgarian Calculator, it overtakes all my Bulgarian samples. Pomaks "the purest" Bulgarians?(we have such saying in Bulgaria, maybe it is true)

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 1.6070% / 0.01606972
93.2 PMK
5.2 Turkish_Rumeli
1.0 Syrian_simulated
0.6 Russian_simulated

Target: mom_scaled
Distance: 1.3755% / 0.01375530
75.6 PMK
8.4 Syrian_simulated
7.4 Russian_simulated
6.0 Turkish_Deliorman
1.6 Armenian_simulated
1.0 Turkish_Rumeli

Target: dad_scaled
Distance: 1.5926% / 0.01592600
68.6 PMK
19.0 North_Macedonian
5.6 Bulgarian
5.0 Greek
1.8 Armenian_simulated

Hi! i'm the founder admin of the Pomak DNA Project and yes all the samples labelled as PMK are Pomaks! you can find the metadata of the samples here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14og57tKfNgcoGSw3xR2S4z_txWTebQMIgiGAPZr38os/edit#gid=1985377839

djipon
05-13-2024, 04:12 PM
Hi! i'm the founder admin of the Pomak DNA Project and yes all the samples labelled as PMK are Pomaks! you can find the metadata of the samples here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14og57tKfNgcoGSw3xR2S4z_txWTebQMIgiGAPZr38os/edit#gid=1985377839

So would you too confirm the opinion Pomaks are genetically Bulgarian, no matter where they live? I've compared all my Bulgarian samples and they come up as the top match, all of them. Interesting how they managed to preserve the "clearest" Bulgarian DNA. Maybe because of religion? But then, one would assume they would intermix with Turks and other Muslim population, which they seemingly didn't do...

Annihilus
05-13-2024, 04:39 PM
New Pomak coordinates:

PMK-100.01,0.118376,0.135065,0.02753,0.004845,0.028621 ,0.004462,0.00376,0.000462,-0.001636,-0.004009,-0.00406,0.002248,0.0055,0.004266,-0.008958,-0.000796,0.009388,0.002154,0.000754,-0.004252,-0.000499,-0.001113,0.008134,0.00494,-0.008502
PMK-100.02,0.122929,0.132019,0.028284,0.002907,0.02400 4,0,0.00517,0.010153,-0.001432,0.006196,0,-0.003747,0.002825,0.011698,-0.006515,0.006232,0.017732,-0.005068,0.003268,-0.003377,-0.008111,0.001607,-0.006286,0.005543,-0.011017
PMK-100.03,0.122929,0.129988,0.029793,0.015181,0.01538 7,0.008646,0.00658,0.013153,-0.001432,0.011663,-0.002273,-0.003147,0.002973,0.010872,-0.004479,0.008486,0.016428,0.002914,0.001508,-0.002251,-0.012977,-0.001731,0.001602,0.002048,-0.006347
PMK-100.04,0.122929,0.132019,0.024136,-0.005168,0.020004,-0.001952,0.00564,-0.001615,0.001636,0.004374,0.001461,0.002698,-0.008325,0.018304,-0.020901,-0.007955,-0.002477,-0.00114,0.000126,-0.007879,-0.017095,0.002968,0.002342,-0.00012,0.003592
PMK-100.05,0.124067,0.137096,0.026021,0.008398,0.02677 4,0.005578,0.00705,0.004154,-0.003272,0.000182,0.000487,0.002548,-0.001189,0.014313,-0.008279,-0.002387,0.008475,0.003674,0.001508,0,-0.010107,0.000989,0.005423,0.001205,-0.003353
PMK-100.06,0.119514,0.13405,0.020742,-0.000646,0.022158,-0.00251,0.00564,-0.003231,-0.005931,-0.002734,0.007632,-0.005395,0.00996,0.008395,-0.013165,0.007425,0.017602,-0.000507,0.00176,0.002876,-0.006988,-0.003091,0.001479,-0.002169,-0.002874
PMK-100.07,0.125205,0.14319,0.028284,-0.000646,0.026159,0,0.002585,0.005769,0.007363,0.0 10205,0.000487,-0.00015,0.002527,0.014038,-0.020494,-0.011668,-0.011213,0.000633,0.003771,-0.004127,-0.003494,-0.00507,0.004683,-0.006627,-0.00012
PMK-100.08,0.121791,0.137096,0.024136,0.002907,0.02523 5,-0.001116,0.001645,0.003,0.001227,0.006925,0.00065,-0.001948,0.003419,0.007294,-0.016151,0.008486,0.016037,0.000633,0.007416,-0.000125,0.002246,-0.002349,0.008627,0.002048,0.000958
PMK-100.09,0.121791,0.139128,0.033941,0.005814,0.03046 7,0.004462,0.003055,-0.000462,0.005931,-0.000729,0.00065,-0.003597,0.010704,0.019955,-0.012486,-0.006895,-0.003651,-0.000633,0.003017,-0.006378,-0.004991,-0.001237,0.002958,-0.00241,0.000239
PMK-100.10,0.118376,0.141159,0.021873,0.007752,0.02031 1,0.005299,0.00188,0.002769,0.001227,0.001276,0.00 0974,-0.001948,0.005352,0.009083,-0.013436,-0.009281,-0.008345,0.003041,0.000754,-0.004502,-0.001622,0.003957,0.007148,-0.004579,-0.002275
PMK-100.11,0.124067,0.13405,0.029793,0.010013,0.017849 ,0.003068,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.006136,-0.004191,0.005684,-0.000749,0.004162,0.008395,-0.009908,-0.007425,0.008084,0.003294,0.000628,0.001251,-0.002745,-0.000495,0.002342,-0.001928,-0.002275
PMK-100.12,0.129758,0.137096,0.035826,0.007429,0.02246 6,0.001116,0.009635,0.004384,-0.001636,0.000364,-0.003897,0.002997,0.004014,0.011285,-0.01045,0.003713,0.00339,-0.000633,0.004274,0.004627,-0.004118,-0.00136,0.006902,-0.010724,-0.006227
PMK-100.13,0.121791,0.142174,0.026776,0.002261,0.02215 8,0.001952,0.004935,0.003,0.000409,0.007107,0.0008 12,-0.001049,0.004014,0.010322,-0.012622,-0.005701,0.009388,-0.001394,0.001257,-0.003001,-0.004243,-0.006677,0.001232,0.002169,0.000958
PMK-100.14,0.125205,0.135065,0.01961,0.00969,0.02185,0 .001952,-0.001175,-0.000692,-0.011453,0.002005,0.00065,-0.003597,0.005798,0.016928,-0.018865,-0.002387,0.007693,0.002787,0.005279,-0.004127,-0.011605,0.001978,0.005916,-0.003976,-0.005868
PMK-100.15,0.124067,0.136081,0.028284,0.002584,0.03200 6,0.003068,0.008225,-0.001615,-0.001432,0.005467,-0.002111,-0.001199,0.004906,0.012661,-0.016829,-0.011933,-0.008084,0.0019,0.008296,-0.009505,-0.00262,0.000495,-0.0053,-0.004097,0.005389
PMK-100.16,0.129758,0.127957,0.031301,0.010336,0.02277 3,0.003904,0.00564,0.009461,-0.000205,0.005832,0.004384,-0.000749,0.002081,0.01734,-0.016965,-0.0118,-0.007953,0.003927,0.006662,-0.007504,-0.003993,-0.004451,0.002958,0.006145,-0.005748
PMK-100.17,0.122929,0.127957,0.027907,0.005814,0.03231 4,0.001394,0.0047,-0.001154,-0.003886,0.001276,-0.009256,-0.002248,0.006838,0.019405,-0.014251,-0.012596,-0.004824,0.002407,0.011061,-0.011255,-0.006738,-0.00136,0.007272,0.005181,0.00491
PMK-100.18,0.132035,0.133034,0.029415,0.000969,0.02554 3,-0.000558,0.003525,0,-0.000614,0.004556,0.002761,0.003147,-0.006838,0.001239,-0.018187,0.003182,0.02047,-0.001394,0.003771,0.004377,-0.009733,0.001978,0.001972,-0.001084,-0.007065
PMK-100.19,0.120652,0.129988,0.034695,0.010013,0.02708 2,0.001952,0.00423,0.007846,-0.00409,0.006196,0.000162,-0.003147,0.00773,0.010872,-0.012622,0,0.004694,-0.007221,0.008547,0.003252,-0.005241,-0.008656,0.006532,0.000241,-0.001197
PMK-100.20,0.118376,0.125926,0.026398,0.015827,0.02246 6,0.003347,0.00611,0.006692,-0.001841,0,-0.001949,-0.002847,0.003271,0.009083,-0.006107,0.002121,0.004172,-0.007475,0.004022,0.001626,-0.001872,-0.006059,0.001972,0.00494,-0.005149
PMK-100.21,0.114961,0.132019,0.028661,0.007429,0.02215 8,0.003626,0.001175,0.004154,-0.003886,0.00492,0.003573,-0.003597,0.003568,0.012799,-0.011808,0.002121,0.01017,-0.005448,0.007416,0.002001,-0.002745,0.000989,0.004314,-0.000482,-0.000718
PMK-100.22,0.120652,0.132019,0.026021,-0.000969,0.025851,0.004741,-0.000705,0.006,0.002863,0.007289,-0.002111,-0.004796,0.002676,0.005092,-0.012893,0.013922,0.01695,-0.007475,0.004777,0.005002,-0.00549,-0.001484,0.003081,0.008194,0.000359
PMK-100.23,0.126344,0.142174,0.028284,0.007752,0.03108 3,0.003347,0.00423,0.005307,-0.007158,0.003462,0.000325,-0.007044,0.003122,0.021056,-0.012215,-0.012331,-0.004042,-0.002534,0.005782,-0.013757,-0.007112,0.000371,0.003081,0.00494,-0.003473
PMK-100.24,0.124067,0.139128,0.019987,0.007429,0.02431 2,0.002231,0.00799,-0.000692,-0.003681,0.001458,-0.001299,0.00045,0.000446,0.003991,-0.012486,-0.004243,0.00678,0.006588,0.002765,0.003502,-0.008485,0.006801,0.005916,0.003133,0.002515
PMK-300.01,0.126344,0.140143,0.026776,0,0.024312,0.000 558,-0.00658,0.006461,0.001432,0.007654,-0.004222,0.000599,-0.001635,0.006331,-0.017372,-0.001458,0.014864,-0.005574,0.001257,0.004627,0.001248,-0.002102,-0.000739,0.006386,0.004311
PMK-300.01_o,0.113823,0.113739,0.010559,-0.006783,0.008001,-0.002789,0.001175,0.004384,-0.008385,-0.003462,-0.007632,0.00015,0.002081,0.013762,-0.003529,-0.01127,-0.007562,-0.00076,0.003142,-0.003502,-0.004492,0.004575,0.008258,-0.001325,0.001916
PMK-300.02,0.120652,0.145221,0.02489,0.001292,0.018157 ,-0.004741,0.014571,0.005077,-0.003068,0.010387,0.000974,-0.001798,0.00773,0.014313,-0.02823,-0.008618,0.008214,-0.009248,0.005908,0.002626,-0.009358,-0.007296,0.003204,0.000361,-0.005269
PMK-300.03,0.124067,0.126941,0.026776,0.00323,0.024312 ,0.001673,0.00611,-0.001846,-0.010635,0.005103,0.00341,-0.001649,0.008771,0.012524,-0.013572,-0.003447,0.004172,0.00114,0.005656,-0.001126,-0.00836,-0.003215,0.005176,-0.00482,-0.004071
PMK-300.04,0.124067,0.139128,0.02753,0.002261,0.02462, 0.009761,0.003055,-0.003231,-0.004704,0.010752,0.002111,-0.005095,0.000892,0.014313,-0.007329,-0.004508,-0.000913,0.004181,0.006285,-0.005253,-0.003868,-0.001237,0.009244,-0.004097,-0.000838
PMK-300.05,0.126344,0.127957,0.027153,-0.005491,0.022773,-0.000279,0.00047,0.009923,0.000409,0.006378,0.0090 94,-0.004196,0.003122,0.007432,-0.004479,0.011138,0.009388,-0.007728,-0.002011,0.006253,-0.002995,0.003091,0.000616,-0.001205,-0.000479
PMK-300.06,0.125205,0.133034,0.024513,-0.000646,0.017849,0.000279,-0.00658,0.006461,0.000409,0.002916,-0.002761,0.000899,0.003568,-0.001514,-0.017779,0.003978,0.019297,-0.001774,0.001257,0.009004,0.00549,0.000618,0.0039 44,0.005543,0.002155
PMK-300.07,0.121791,0.132019,0.014331,-0.000323,0.014772,-0.000558,0.00517,0.001615,-0.005113,0,-0.000974,-0.000749,0.004757,0.008533,-0.008958,0.005834,0.003651,0.005068,0.008799,-0.005503,-0.008485,-0.000618,0.002342,0.005302,-0.000599
PMK-300.08,0.122929,0.137096,0.024136,0.002261,0.02092 7,0.00502,-0.00047,-0.005307,-0.002659,0.001458,0.002923,-0.004646,0.002825,0.011285,-0.019137,-0.006629,0.004694,0.000127,0.00729,-0.005503,-0.007861,-0.006059,-0.000616,0.000361,-0.012334
PMK-300.09,0.117238,0.137096,0.02225,-0.006137,0.028005,-0.001394,0.00047,0.003,0.001841,0.009659,0.003573, 0.001049,0.003568,0.006055,-0.016422,0.005834,0.008736,-0.003041,0.001131,-0.008254,-0.010482,0.00136,0.000739,0.001084,-0.00491
PMK-300.10,0.129758,0.131003,0.030547,0.000323,0.02308 1,0.002231,0.00517,0.004615,-0.004704,0.002916,0,-0.001499,0.001933,0.013625,-0.016015,0.008088,0.001565,-0.000253,0.005531,-0.002626,-0.012603,-0.007172,0.012695,-0.005543,-0.001916
PMK-300.11,0.127482,0.135065,0.015462,-0.002584,0.022466,-0.005299,0.003055,0.004384,-0.000818,0.00893,0.00065,0.005845,0.002379,0.00963 4,-0.008143,-0.002784,0.004563,-0.004434,0.005028,-0.007504,-0.005989,-0.002968,0.002588,0.003012,-0.003592
PMK-807.01,0.1161,0.135065,0.019987,-0.009367,0.024004,-0.008367,0.00376,0.000923,-0.00634,0.002551,0.003085,0.002847,0.002527,0.0011 01,-0.020494,0.010209,0.019688,0.000253,0.005531,0.000 125,0.000624,-0.000495,-0.001109,0.000361,0.005029
PMK-807.02,0.122929,0.137096,0.02489,-0.007429,0.020004,0.00251,0.003055,0.000692,-0.001432,0.007836,-0.005521,-0.001649,-0.002825,0.011836,-0.015608,0.000133,0.005085,0.001394,0.001257,5e-04,-0.001622,0.003586,0.012571,-0.001084,-0.002395


It is obvious Gagauz are closest to (if not) Bulgarians.

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Bulgarian_Northcentral_simulated,0.1228,0.1389,0.0 276,0.0025,0.0252,0.0043,0.0052,0.0052,-0.0014,0.0026,0.0002,-0.0006,0.0014,0.0113,-0.0154,-0.0002,0.0078,-0.0016,0.0032,-0.0064,-0.0112,0.0012,0.0032,-0.004,0.0005
Bulgarian_Northeastern_simulated,0.1222,0.1429,0.0 236,0.0031,0.0281,0.0023,0.0032,0.0045,-0.0011,0.0036,0.0001,0.0001,-0.0023,0.0061,-0.0184,0.0046,0.0167,-0.0016,0.0063,-0.002,-0.0059,0.0019,0.0059,0.0015,0.0018
Bulgarian_Northwestern_simulated,0.1218,0.1362,0.0 348,0.0066,0.0242,0.0044,0.004,0.0079,-0.0001,0.002,-0.0008,-0.0012,-0.0013,0.0074,-0.012,0.0057,0.0121,-0.0035,0.0075,-0.0003,-0.0047,0.0031,0.0028,0.0032,-0.0029
Bulgarian_simulated,0.1229,0.1393,0.0285,0.003,0.0 258,0.0048,0.0053,0.0051,-0.001,0.0031,0.0003,-0.0005,0.0013,0.0117,-0.0156,-0.001,0.0073,-0.0015,0.0035,-0.0065,-0.0113,0.0011,0.0036,-0.0044,0.0004
Bulgarian_Southcentral_simulated,0.1229,0.1405,0.0 245,0.0007,0.0253,0.0043,0.0049,0.0041,-0.0016,0.0027,0.001,-0.0005,0.0008,0.0129,-0.0162,-0.0036,0.0067,-0.0008,0.0032,-0.0075,-0.0107,0.0009,0.004,-0.005,0.0008
Bulgarian_Southeastern_simulated,0.1224,0.1441,0.0 182,-0.0013,0.0266,0.0002,0.0022,0.0038,-0.0014,0.0028,0.0004,0,-0.0027,0.0067,-0.0181,0.0033,0.0161,-0.0013,0.0055,-0.004,-0.0065,0.002,0.0047,0.0009,0.0017
Bulgarian_Southwestern_simulated,0.1225,0.1382,0.0 31,0.004,0.0252,0.0047,0.005,0.0064,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.0005,-0.0001,0.0007,0.01,-0.0146,0.0005,0.0065,-0.0023,0.0044,-0.0053,-0.0114,0.0016,0.0031,-0.0037,-0.0004
Roma_Balkans_simulated,0.087,0.0623,-0.0561,0.0208,-0.0199,0.012,-0.0004,0.0033,0.0097,0.016,-0.0025,0.0009,0.0009,-0.0057,-0.0008,0.0053,0.0029,0.0023,0.006,-0.0078,0.0028,0.0015,-0.0015,-0.0054,0.0009
Roma_Wallachia_simulated,0.0898,0.0693,-0.048,0.0186,-0.0148,0.0094,-0.0003,0.0023,0.0082,0.0117,0,0.0012,-0.0003,-0.0024,-0.0048,-0.0004,-0.0024,0.0016,0.0056,-0.0081,0.0008,0.002,-0.0052,-0.0061,0.0046
Romanian_Banat_simulated,0.1262,0.1344,0.0378,0.01 02,0.0294,0.0045,0.004,0.0069,0.0008,-0.0005,-0.0011,-0.002,0.0005,0.0099,-0.012,0.0091,0.0103,-0.0017,0.0049,-0.006,-0.0076,0.0024,0.0019,0.0025,0.0005
Romanian_Crisana_simulated,0.1286,0.1338,0.0373,0. 0133,0.0315,0.0061,0.005,0.006,0.0017,0.001,-0.0017,-0.0003,-0.002,0.0083,-0.0091,0.0067,0.0082,0.0001,0.0036,-0.0053,-0.0053,0.0015,0.0013,0.0027,-0.0002
Romanian_Dobruja_simulated,0.1235,0.1351,0.0322,0. 0059,0.0253,0.0056,0.0045,0.0063,-0.0004,0.0031,-0.0001,-0.0003,-0.0006,0.0117,-0.013,-0.0006,0.0033,-0.0011,0.0052,-0.0062,-0.0086,0.0017,0.0038,-0.0022,-0.0001
Romanian_Maramures_simulated,0.1265,0.1338,0.0392, 0.0144,0.032,0.0078,0.0067,0.0072,0.0012,0.0025,-0.0034,-0.0021,-0.0043,0.006,-0.0063,-0.0005,0.005,0.0007,-0.0012,0.0002,-0.0052,0.0007,0.0005,0.0013,-0.0029
Romanian_Muntenia_simulated,0.1232,0.1361,0.0317,0 .0052,0.025,0.0053,0.0046,0.0064,-0.0004,0.0035,-0.0002,-0.0001,-0.0005,0.0111,-0.0133,-0.0006,0.004,-0.0015,0.0049,-0.0058,-0.0093,0.0017,0.0036,-0.0027,-0.0003
Romanian_North-Moldavia_simulated,0.1265,0.13,0.0411,0.0201,0.029 9,0.0087,0.0059,0.0076,-0.0002,-0.0012,-0.002,-0.0018,-0.0051,0.0089,-0.0044,-0.0018,0.0013,0.0023,0.0008,-0.0018,-0.0005,0.0011,0.0018,0.0026,-0.0027
Romanian_Oltenia_simulated,0.1241,0.1368,0.0343,0. 0062,0.027,0.0022,0.0036,0.0076,0.0009,0.0009,-0.0019,-0.0015,0.0009,0.0064,-0.0128,0.0115,0.0139,-0.0037,0.0048,-0.0043,-0.0099,0.0029,0.0004,0.0022,-0.0005
Romanian_simulated,0.1265,0.1337,0.0369,0.0097,0.0 287,0.0044,0.0032,0.0069,0.0011,0.0002,-0.0009,-0.0014,-0.0012,0.0105,-0.0112,0.007,0.0068,-0.001,0.0056,-0.0068,-0.0065,0.0025,0.0023,0.0024,0.0004
Romanian_South-Moldavia_simulated,0.1275,0.1323,0.0377,0.011,0.03 01,0.0054,0.0031,0.0063,0.0008,0.0001,-0.0005,-0.0017,-0.0016,0.0125,-0.0106,0.0049,0.0041,0.0004,0.0057,-0.0079,-0.0051,0.0019,0.0033,0.0026,0.0008
Romanian_Transylvania_simulated,0.1273,0.1333,0.03 8,0.0108,0.0298,0.0048,0.0034,0.0067,0.0012,-0.0002,-0.0008,-0.0016,-0.0009,0.0113,-0.0111,0.007,0.0064,-0.0006,0.0054,-0.0075,-0.0065,0.0023,0.0024,0.0024,0.0009
Romanian_Wallachia_simulated,0.1232,0.1362,0.032,0 .0055,0.0252,0.0057,0.0047,0.0063,-0.0004,0.0036,-0.0001,-0.0001,-0.0004,0.0115,-0.0135,-0.0012,0.0037,-0.0014,0.0049,-0.0058,-0.0094,0.0016,0.0039,-0.0031,-0.0002
Turkish_Crete_simulated,0.0959,0.1206,0.0038,-0.0286,0.0115,-0.0085,-0.0019,0.0033,0.0052,0.0113,0.0004,0.0046,0.0013,0 .0016,-0.0037,-0.0105,-0.0067,-0.0028,-0.0079,-0.0074,-0.0011,-0.0004,0.0011,-0.0045,-0.0021
Turkish_Deliorman_simulated,0.1167,0.1035,0.0172,-0.0028,0.0127,0.0022,0.0024,0.0036,-0.0094,-0.0035,-0.0023,0.0011,-0.0072,0.009,-0.0052,-0.0037,-0.0018,0.0002,0.0016,-0.0018,0.003,0.0024,0.0021,0.0023,0.0003
Turkish_East-Black_Sea_simulated,0.1073,0.1325,-0.0513,-0.0478,-0.027,-0.0099,0.0022,-0.0054,-0.0273,-0.0034,0.0074,0.0049,-0.0088,0.0008,-0.008,-0.0025,-0.0038,0.0016,0.006,-0.0074,0.0002,-0.0002,-0.0058,-0.0049,0.0004
Turkish_East_simulated,0.0988,0.1081,-0.0469,-0.0411,-0.0333,-0.0068,0.0029,-0.0055,-0.0274,-0.0094,0.0058,0.0034,-0.002,-0.0039,-0.0003,0.0023,-0.002,0.0034,0.0055,-0.0051,-0.0005,0.0013,-0.0024,-0.0061,-0.0003
Turkish_Eastcentral_simulated,0.0958,0.0822,-0.0326,-0.0392,-0.0272,-0.0114,0.0025,-0.0023,-0.021,0.0001,0.0026,0.0017,-0.0006,-0.0008,-0.0039,-0.0049,-0.0071,0.0012,0.004,-0.0048,0.0006,0.0007,0.0032,0.0002,0.0007
Turkish_Macedonia_simulated,0.1164,0.1264,0.0127,-0.0121,0.0172,-0.0009,0.0003,0.0026,-0.0028,0.011,-0.0002,-0.0009,-0.0052,0.0053,-0.0105,-0.0028,0.0018,0.0005,0.0031,-0.0049,-0.0036,-0.0012,0.0041,-0.0017,-0.0013
Turkish_Meskheti_simulated,0.1059,0.1308,-0.0597,-0.0522,-0.039,-0.0099,0.0052,-0.0037,-0.0406,-0.0086,0.0009,0.0078,-0.0094,0.0011,0.0004,0,0.0071,-0.0008,-0.0008,0,0.0036,0,0.0044,-0.0034,0.0001
Turkish_Northwest_simulated,0.0975,0.0547,-0.0125,-0.0312,-0.0182,-0.012,0.0034,-0.0007,-0.0148,-0.0009,-0.0019,0.0028,-0.0049,-0.0064,-0.0029,-0.0011,0.0018,-0.0006,-0.0016,-0.0002,0.0032,0.0024,0.0029,-0.0016,0.0001
Turkish_simulated,0.0975,0.0934,-0.0364,-0.0436,-0.0258,-0.0098,0.0027,-0.0013,-0.0245,0.001,0.0014,0.0033,-0.003,0.0016,-0.0043,-0.0071,-0.0078,0.002,0.0041,-0.0046,0.0006,0.0027,0.0021,0.0014,0.0001
Turkish_South_simulated,0.0923,0.0664,-0.0306,-0.0387,-0.0258,-0.0093,0.0035,-0.002,-0.0207,-0.0013,0.0003,0.0006,0.0003,0.0029,-0.0055,-0.0087,-0.0153,0.0039,0.0077,-0.0068,0.0033,0.0019,0.0018,0.0026,0.0005
Turkish_Southeast_simulated,0.0964,0.1026,-0.0471,-0.0441,-0.0303,-0.0095,0.0035,-0.0071,-0.0265,-0.0075,0.0048,0.0004,-0.0014,-0.0022,-0.0006,0.0002,-0.0022,0.0035,0.0056,-0.0044,-0.0018,0.0018,-0.0024,-0.005,-0.0023
Turkish_Thrace_simulated,0.1113,0.1065,0.0072,-0.0111,0.0068,-0.0003,0.002,0.0022,-0.0104,0.0005,-0.0013,0.0004,-0.0055,0.004,-0.0056,-0.0035,0.0024,-0.0015,-0.0022,0.0009,0.0033,0.001,0.0022,-0.0026,0.0018
Turkish_Westcentral_simulated,0.097,0.081,-0.0276,-0.0373,-0.0212,-0.009,0.0034,-0.0019,-0.019,0.0003,-0.0001,0.0017,-0.0007,0.0018,-0.0034,-0.0053,-0.0103,0.0024,0.0049,-0.005,0.0025,0.0009,0.0017,0.0029,-0.0001

I combined the 2

Target: annihilus_v2_scaled
Distance: 1.5733% / 0.01573294
27.8 Turkish_Meskheti_simulated
12.4 PMK-100.11
11.4 PMK-100.18
11.2 Turkish_Crete_simulated
9.8 PMK-300.01_o
9.6 Turkish_Northwest_simulated
9.0 Turkish_Southeast_simulated
5.2 PMK-100.24
1.8 PMK-100.23
1.0 PMK-300.02
0.8 PMK-100.02