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Dušan
02-14-2024, 02:38 PM
Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown => Middle Ages => Global => No limit

https://i.imgur.com/yd2M1hR.png



Post your results :thumb001:

Feiichy
02-14-2024, 02:45 PM
Fit: 1.493 (Good)

https://i.imgur.com/4JIGjRA.png

Feiichy
02-14-2024, 02:49 PM
Stears result: Fit: 0.653 (Very Good)

https://i.imgur.com/0M2aUYI.png

Dušan
02-14-2024, 02:54 PM
Stears result: Fit: 0.653 (Very Good)

https://i.imgur.com/0M2aUYI.png

Turkic + Volga + Magyar could be from ancient proto-Hungarian ancestry.
3,6% total.

djipon
02-14-2024, 02:54 PM
There you go :)

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs7KfyTZ/image.png

kingmob
02-14-2024, 02:55 PM
Fit: 1.242 (Good)


https://i.ibb.co/c2k1FRZ/Screenshot-2024-02-14-at-17-53-53-ILLUSTRATIVE-DNA.png

Dušan
02-14-2024, 02:59 PM
There you go :)

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs7KfyTZ/image.png

Quite interesting and diverse

djipon
02-14-2024, 03:01 PM
Quite interesting and diverse

Yup, I still can't figure the results myself... I expected similar to yours.

Dušan
02-14-2024, 03:02 PM
Fit: 1.242 (Good)


https://i.ibb.co/c2k1FRZ/Screenshot-2024-02-14-at-17-53-53-ILLUSTRATIVE-DNA.png

Real Byzantine son. :)

I am Byzantine descendant too, but on less level.

kingmob
02-14-2024, 03:02 PM
Yup, I still can't figure the results myself... I expected similar to yours.


It looks like an overfit. Apply penalization.

djipon
02-14-2024, 03:05 PM
It looks like an overfit. Apply penalization.

How? Change the number of populations or the region?

majevica
02-14-2024, 03:08 PM
Fit: 1.673 (Good)

https://imgur.com/0RpiqD4.jpg

Jingle Bell
02-14-2024, 03:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Bj46w7h.png
Fit: 1.296 (Good)
A huge overfit

tk'es
02-14-2024, 03:24 PM
https://i.ibb.co/JK98zv8/middle-ages.png

djipon
02-14-2024, 03:24 PM
Why do these overfits happen? Some of you have more "homogenous" results

Dušan
02-14-2024, 03:24 PM
Maybe to use 4 population limit.
I didnt got so many various samples in no limit mode, but it seems other people should use it to get more clear view.

kingmob
02-14-2024, 03:30 PM
Why do these overfits happen? Some of you have more "homogenous" results


You might have a low SNP count/overlap file.

g25 was projected using the 23ame v3 raw file template, like all eurogenes ADMIXTURE versions.

My results are less noisy because my file has 99.99% coverage to those templates, since my file comes from a WGS.

djipon
02-14-2024, 03:30 PM
Maybe to use 4 population limit.
I didnt got so many various samples in no limit mode, but it seems other people should use it to get more clear view.

With 4 populations:

Fit: 1.459 (Good)
https://i.postimg.cc/kg46NV7J/image.png

With 3 populations:

Fit: 1.495 (Good)
https://i.postimg.cc/T38FgbVm/image.png

Still lots of Germanic, though.

djipon
02-14-2024, 03:31 PM
You might have a low SNP count/overlap file.

g25 was projected using the 23ame v3 raw file template, like all eurogenes ADMIXTURE versions.

My results are less noisy because my file has 99.99% coverage to those templates, since my file comes from a WGS.

So I might wanna test with a nother company for clearer results then?

kingmob
02-14-2024, 03:35 PM
So I might wanna test with a nother company for clearer results then?


They are equally bad currently, afaik, around 550K-600K tested with very low overlap (some of the as low as 30% I've seen) to those ADMIXTURE templates. Back in the day of the v3 they used to test for 1mil+ SNPs.

AncestryDNA has probably the better one currently, but don't expect groundbreaking differences.

Only a WGS can give you the perfect coverage, if you're willing to go down that route.

djipon
02-14-2024, 03:42 PM
They are equally bad currently, afaik, around 550K-600K tested with very low overlap (some of the as low as 30% I've seen) to those ADMIXTURE templates. Back in the day of the v3 they used to test for 1mil+ SNPs.

AncestryDNA has probably the better one currently, but don't expect groundbreaking differences.

Only a WGS can give you the perfect coverage, if you're willing to go down that route.

I will admit I know nothing about the WGS, nor where and how to do it...

Far_away
02-14-2024, 03:46 PM
https://i.ibb.co/JFTk13S/IMG-0884.jpg

kingmob
02-14-2024, 03:46 PM
I will admit I know nothing about the WGS, nor where and how to do it...


It's acronym for Whole Genome Sequencing, where you get the entirety of your genome sequenced, not just a small set number of SNPs.

There are various vendors, Nebula, Dante, Sequencing, etc.

Keep an eye out for offers, some of them go for cheap on certain dates.

I got all mine and my family's with Nebula, can vouch for them that they are a serious company.

Jingle Bell
02-14-2024, 03:50 PM
Maybe to use 4 population limit.
I didnt got so many various samples in no limit mode, but it seems other people should use it to get more clear view.

https://i.imgur.com/KUKTt2x.png pop5 works fine

Thracian
02-14-2024, 04:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CkRMwaS.jpeg

sacha
02-14-2024, 04:59 PM
I'm shocked. I'm dumbstruck. I never knew this secret ancestry of mine :rolleyes:

https://i.ibb.co/HBjQVvb/Screenshot-2024-02-14-at-12-57-57-PM.png


No but, on global

https://i.ibb.co/dj0ZvQH/Screenshot-2024-02-14-at-1-01-32-PM.png

Note to self: Do not deal with 10 images at the same time, I put the wrong stuff in here thrice. But I have fixed it now

tk'es
02-14-2024, 05:30 PM
now from 3 to 5 pop





Periodical Ancient Ancestry Breakdown > Middle ages > Global-global


https://i.ibb.co/5ctbvyq/3.png

https://i.ibb.co/Ss9QkLv/4.png

https://i.ibb.co/FX9F9K5/5.png

Coastal Elite
02-14-2024, 05:48 PM
3-5 populations

Fit: 1.572 (Good)
https://i.imgur.com/vwhVVqR.jpeg

Fit: 1.109 (Good)
https://i.imgur.com/DUUzGwx.jpeg

Fit: 1.056 (Good)
https://i.imgur.com/ToRaU1B.jpeg

Demirkazık
02-14-2024, 06:08 PM
https://i.ibb.co/sQrzRCk/floorp-9-IIVhc-Frzx.png

Feiichy
02-14-2024, 07:37 PM
Maybe to use 4 population limit.
I didnt got so many various samples in no limit mode, but it seems other people should use it to get more clear view.

Fit: 1.537 (Good)

https://i.imgur.com/jeNP5yQ.png

Bascially 70% northern Barbarian and 30% ancient Greek (they were Sardinian + Anatolian mix)

Impaler
02-14-2024, 08:42 PM
Why France for my father? :D

https://i.ibb.co/K6F8MHP/tata-illustrative.png (https://ibb.co/wyM291k)

ScandinavianCelt
02-15-2024, 12:00 AM
Germanic (AD 700–1000)41.4%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)38.2%
France (AD 130–1400)8.4%
Italian (AD 650–1450)4.0%
Kartvelian2.4%
Volga (AD 200–400)2.0%
Indian Subcontinent (AD 690–990)2.0%
Baltic (AD 900–1050)0.8%
Old Bering Sea Culture (AD 200–1330)0.4%
Papuan (400–200 BC)0.2%
Khoisan0.2%

Xavier727
02-15-2024, 12:29 AM
Fit: 1.040 (Good)

Germanic (AD 700–1000) 49.2%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000) 36.0%
Italian (AD 650–1450) 5.2%
France (AD 130–1400) 2.8%
Iberian (AD 300–1200) 2.2%
Kartvelian 1.2%
North African (AD 580–1160) 1.0%
North Amerindian (4000 BC–AD 1600) 1.0%
North Caucasian (AD 650–1160) 0.8%
European Jew (AD 1160–1400) 0.2%
Khwarazm and Transoxiana (100 BC–AD 950) 0.2%
South Amerindian (9000 BC–AD 1500) 0.2%

Katarzyna
02-15-2024, 12:39 AM
Slavic (AD 540–1270) 77.0%
Germanic (AD 700–1000) 20.4%
Volga (AD 200–400) 1.6%
Balkans (AD 500–1000) 1.0%

Gallop
02-15-2024, 12:42 AM
I will see what other Spaniards get, but it seems very relevant France and Insular celt in our results. In my brother Iberia it is very low.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOF_Nd3uvMhuhytk9m41QL_RKJvLOSLXm7odg6ww9Z3f hOsi6DjcuvfKC3zw_hSm6QdaJMzapFj6d5Im_e4UVO7HqgJlU7 40tVAPSktlvxKCgyO4-LkcFYxvFEE_PLuO4WAzLpIuti-AUKiTY2b4zkN2zICVnTR2xfi_5HQdDCk9eLYYNLqxTAoe732Ac/s724/EdadMediaGlobal.jpeg

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https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhq3_uiG3B0R8HsiQOxEXOn8u5UIDCLRdlq01Qfsg5nBp A0LpMPaVaKMz8Lywo_PN224L95WKmrQOXoDuGtAiftRDddVoXQ MMlP8psnGbCjeDQL0lSrUc1X88sDxpZX1ZCIvtUkpsNwIDiyy4 yVBEZSbPiz68fpoNnPBX0_Zopk6QJMf68T-cl0etDwP5o/s736/medievalGlobal.jpeg

ScandinavianCelt
02-15-2024, 01:51 AM
I think my Middle Ages America's is most accurate:

Germanic (AD 700–1000)40.8%. -- (Swedish)
France (AD 130–1400)30.0%
Insular Celt (AD 100–1000)27.6%
North Amerindian (4000 BC–AD 1600)1.2%
Sub-Saharan African0.4%

hazmatnik
02-15-2024, 04:45 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/kXqxD8RP/Untitled.png (https://postimg.cc/XX1Zzrgs)

Ghitza von Pigsty
02-19-2024, 07:35 AM
Global-Global

3 population:

1.506 (Good)

Baltic (AD 900–1050)40.0%

Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100)34.0%

Iberian (AD 300–1200)26.0%


4 population:

1.393 (Good)

Baltic (AD 900–1050)34.4%

Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100)33.6%

Iberian (AD 300–1200)26.8%

Volga (AD 200–400)5.2%



5 population:

1.313 (Good)

Slavic (AD 540–1270)26.8%

Baltic (AD 900–1050)22.4%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000)22.0%

North Caucasian (AD 650–1160)17.8%

Arabian Peninsula11.0%


No limit:

1.141 (Good)

Slavic (AD 540–1270)25.8%

Baltic (AD 900–1050)25.6%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000)18.4%

Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100)17.0%

Arabian Peninsula6.6%

Iranian Plateau3.4%

Kartvelian1.2%

Mongolic (AD 900–1300)0.8%

Iberian (AD 300–1200)0.6%

Australian (2000 BC–AD 1600)0.6%

Mortimer
02-19-2024, 07:52 AM
Fit: 0.662 (Very Good)

Byzantine Anatolia (AD 500–1100) 35.8%

Slavic (AD 540–1270) 31.4%

Indian Subcontinent (AD 690–990) 19.8%

Sardinian (AD 770–1000) 10.8%

Japanese (AD 540–1850) 2.2%

~Elizabeth~
02-25-2024, 11:23 PM
Illustrative DNA Middle Ages No Limit

Fit: 1.275 (Good)

https://i.postimg.cc/jSxz56cX/Illustrative-DNA-middle-ages-no-limit-is-12-regions.png

~Elizabeth~
02-27-2024, 07:29 PM
I received my Mom's results today. She doesn't get Papuan and Mongolic so mine must come from my father's side. The extra one Mom gets that I don't have is Levantine (Lebanon).

My Mom's Illustrative DNA "no limit" (Global) Middle Ages
https://i.postimg.cc/CMBWGsKM/Mom-Illustrative-DNA-no-limit-Middle-Ages.png

Beowulf
02-27-2024, 08:30 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/cHs3cYX6/Screenshot-2024-02-27-22-28-58.png (https://postimages.org/)

Solitude
02-27-2024, 08:51 PM
..

Leferena
02-29-2024, 11:19 PM
Mine
127335

Mom
127336

Dad
127337

Sarmale
03-01-2024, 03:03 AM
127338

alexmegas777
03-02-2024, 07:03 AM
https://i.ibb.co/Kyj376C/Screenshot-2024-03-02-100145.png

Tie red
03-02-2024, 08:04 AM
Mom

127369

Me

127370

edit 5 pop medieval

mom

127371

me

127372


Of course, neither of us have Jewish ancestry.

bekuci26
03-16-2024, 07:10 PM
mine :)


127707

Vessna
03-16-2024, 08:50 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240316/0f9708e7465b27763015484ff3aba68f.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240316/ce850a5f925569bc93c49abe4d316653.jpg

Feiichy
03-16-2024, 09:22 PM
5 pops, Fit: 1.493 (Good)

https://i.imgur.com/n4SG5EU.png

Afshin Choniates
03-16-2024, 09:44 PM
127714

Selene
03-16-2024, 09:47 PM
https://i.ibb.co/2g90dcT/IMG-20240316-224047.jpg (https://ibb.co/r4jKH5V)

Just for fun, I don't have high opinion of Illustrative DNA :)

protos
03-16-2024, 10:05 PM
The least Slavic Slav here:
https://i.ibb.co/f4kTmFN/middle-ages.png

MBVC
03-16-2024, 10:20 PM
127718