Are croats identical to english ?

[tita]

I just checked ancient DNA of both and they appear to be exactly the same. DO you guys think they are ?

[Feiichy]

Lol

[Kess]

Lol

His opinions reflects why he's obsessed with IQ.

[JerryS.]

Hahaha

[majevica]

Yes

[Figaro]

If you’re gonna troll, at least put in a little bit more effort. :laugh:

[sage]

Yes you can say they are brothers from another mother

[Insuperable]

OP probably saw that old three way ancient DNA data. You know, that WHG-EEF-ANE old calculator and came to that conclusion.

[tita]

OP probably saw that old three way ancient DNA data. You know, that WHG-EEF-ANE old calculator and came to that conclusion.

You are right, also take a look at this professionnal data
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[Benyzero]

If you'd happen to be just a little bit smarter you could time travel just by using your mind for sure

[djipon]

I'm too new to enter the fight, so I just came to laugh :rolleyes:

[Rædwald]

Yes Croats are just English that got lost on their pilgrimage :rolleyes:

[cakmir7y]

Are Pygmy identical to Eskimos?

[DarkoV]

No, Croats are autosomally closer to Scandinavians than to the English. I judge this based on several autosomal results I have gathered.

In general, they are genetically closest to other Slavs, especially Poles and Ukrainians.

[Feiichy]

No, Croats are autosomally closer to Scandinavians than to the English. I judge this based on several autosomal results I have gathered.

In general, they are genetically closest to other Slavs, especially Poles and Ukrainians.

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[DarkoV]

What is unclear? Write and we will discuss.

[Laredo]

I'm not familiar with Croats, although I'm putting more effort to learn their genetics contributions. I consider them an intermediate population let's say South East European Mediterraneans and Russians/Ukrainians Slavs maybe leaning to the Slav side.

[Feiichy]

What is unclear? Write and we will discuss.

How are we genetically closest to Poles? North Croats like you are very similar to Czechs, not Poles.
And only Ukrainians we are close to are Rusyns who I don't consider truly Ukrainian (at least not in genetic point of view)

[Feiichy]

I'm not familiar with Croats, although I'm putting more effort to learn their genetics contributions. I consider them an intermediate population let's say South East European Mediterraneans and Russians/Ukrainians Slavs maybe leaning to the Slav side.

We are not intermediate population but mostly Slavic, with significant Balkan influence. North Croats are fully central European population and they are more Germanic than Balkan on average.

[Laredo]

We are not intermediate population but mostly Slavic, with significant Balkan influence. North Croats are fully central European population and they are more Germanic than Balkan on average.

What's the average Germanic contribution of North croats and croats In general? and the rest of balkans?

You do look very Germanic Influence In my opinion I've always said so.

[Feiichy]

What's the average Germanic contribution of North croats and croats In general? and the rest of balkans?

You do look very Germanic Influence In my opinion I've always said so.

Over 20% on average. Kajkavian means NW Croat.
https://i.imgur.com/enIDySp.png

I have almost nothing Germanic genetically and I am southern Croat. However I am 1/8 German and probably that's why I look like that (I wouldn't say Germanic as I don't look Danish or Norwegian).

Genetically I inherited way less from that side than I should (and my Germans were heavily Celtic admixed, with minor Slavic) but phenotypically pretty much since my mother looks like stereotypical German (Faelid), and I resemble her just in gracile version.

Recent ancestry often shows up more in phenotype than something ancient, even if it is small.

As for Balkans, there is some Germanic there but nothing significant. Balkan Slavs can be modeled perfectly as Slavic + Paleo Balkan + Roman Anatolian

[Laredo]

Over 20% on average. Kajkavian means NW Croat.
https://i.imgur.com/enIDySp.png

I have almost nothing Germanic genetically and I am southern Croat. However I am 1/8 German and probably that's why I look like that (I wouldn't say Germanic as I don't look Danish or Norwegian).

Genetically I inherited way less from that side than I should (and my Germans were heavily Celtic admixed, with minor Slavic) but phenotypically pretty much since my mother looks like stereotypical German (Faelid), and I resemble her just in gracile version.

Recent ancestry often shows up more in phenotype than something ancient, even if it is small.

I see, mind share some genetic contribution of Hungarians and Serbs? I would say Croatia country neighbors are genetically similar more or less no?? I get the feeling Hungarians are more Germanic and Slav and less med than Serbs?

[DarkoV]

How are we genetically closest to Poles? North Croats like you are very similar to Czechs, not Poles.
And only Ukrainians we are close to are Rusyns who I don't consider truly Ukrainian (at least not in genetic point of view)

I belong to the R1a-L260 haplogroup, which is most common in Eastern Germany. However, on FTDNA, my Y-DNA results match only with individuals from Eastern Poland and Western Ukraine. There isn't a single Czech individual genetically close to me. This serves as evidence that Croats migrated from Southeastern Poland rather than from Eastern Germany and the Czech Republic.

[Feiichy]

I belong to the R1a-L260 haplogroup, which is most common in Eastern Germany. However, on FTDNA, my Y-DNA results match only with individuals from Eastern Poland and Western Ukraine. There isn't a single Czech individual genetically close to me. This serves as evidence that Croats migrated from Southeastern Poland rather than from Eastern Germany and the Czech Republic.

You are mixing apples and oranges. Ofcourse old Croat ancient core is from Poland and Ukraine (just debating that in other thread, you can join if you want).
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?381919-Why-do-Slavs-in-the-Balkans-claim-they-are-the-original-inhabitants

However Kajkavians are autosomally close to Czechs. That is because they have significant Germanic and southern input, as do Czechs. Poles are lot more Slavic and less western/southern.

Also, NW Croats have significant origin from Moravian and Panonnian Slavs. Your Y-DNA looks old Croat though.

[Feiichy]

I see, mind share some genetic contribution of Hungarians and Serbs? I would say Croatia country neighbors are genetically similar more or less no?? I get the feeling Hungarians are more Germanic and Slav and less med than Serbs?

Serbs are basically half Slavic half Balkan-Roman. Some Serbs are more than half Slavic (Bosnians and those from Croatia for eg), while some are less than half Slavic (from Montenegro, Kosovo, Macedonia)

Full ethnic Hungarians are lot more Germanic and less Med than Serbs, but not really more Slav. They are comparably Slavic as Serbs are. Plus they have minor old Magyar/Turkic steppe admix.

[majevica]

Over 20% on average. Kajkavian means NW Croat.
https://i.imgur.com/enIDySp.png

Are you sure that there is no Celtic admixture in Kajkavians?

[Feiichy]

Are you sure that there is no Celtic admixture in Kajkavians?

Seemingly not. When tested with them it doesn't pick them up. Also, there were no Celts when Slavs settled the region, they were already diluted with Anatolians.

They have such high Germanic because it is from great migration era when Germanics were still largerly unmixed.