Sacha's mtFull results

[sacha]

I actually managed to 'predict' this ahead of time. My exact clade right now is H4a1, but I suspect at some point I will be pushed deeper into another clade because I have a lot of outstanding mutations.

Sadly no exact matches, but there are four that show up as fullseq ones. The #1 closest one is 2 steps away and is ancestrally from... Ireland. The rest are 3 steps away and seem to be either Iberian or heavily-Iberian Latinos. I think I would get some Syrian matches if more people tested xd

A map of all H4a1 people on ftDNA:
https://i.ibb.co/Zgh6QRt/image.png

Interestingly enough, there are three Lebanese who have H4a1, but they all share mutations that I do not. On the H4 Group Project, they are labelled under 'H4a1_ A11957G, A12171G, T4232C predicted new subhaplogroup'- I lack all of these extra things, and have more on another side. Still fun to look at.

There is another tester from Syria with H4 but not H4a1, no more show up on the project. The only people I see with these same back mutations are a few Italians, Polish and Finnish, but most of them aren't in my exact clade- they are either deeper or higher in H4.
I was very excited when looking at the list of people to find someone from Syria with the exact same mutations as me! And then I realized... that's me...
I was taking a look at some sub-haplogroups on that same H4 Group Project. One of my triple flips (T152C!!!) is accounted for under 'H4a1_ T152C! predicted new subhaplogroup', which has two testers under it; one from Cuba, one from Italy. There are even further in groups than this under 'predicted new subhaplogroups' with a T152C! flips that I lack mutations for.

I also uploaded to yFull!

https://i.ibb.co/HFXBjVY/image.png

I wonder which one Sacha is :rolleyes:

Here is a chart of my matches on this site (of what % each country showed up). None of them there were exact either, but I was bored so yeah
https://i.ibb.co/g4j4pM0/Screenshot-2024-02-16-at-4-52-44-PM.png

Some of the ancient H4a1s:

- VK345, a Viking sample from ~1000 years ago found in Sweden
- VPBper620, a Hungarian commoner found buried in a cemetary of the Carpathian basin
- I2510, some Bulgarian that I can't find more information on xd, circa 4756 years ago
- KC554007.1 and KC554006.1 from a paper I will read more of later but is called "Neolithic mitochondrial haplogroup H genomes and the genetic origins of Europeans (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3978205/)" - these appear to be Bell Beakers lol
https://i.ibb.co/74387cT/image.png

Some deeper-down ones (H4a1a, etc etc):

- I15035, sample from France (Morbihan+
- CSN013, sample from Italy (Grosseto), possibly Etruscan
- MT079040.1, sample from Germany (Baden-Wurttemberg)
- PB768, sample from Ireland (Clare)
- VDP-A7, sample from Iceland, 1000 years ago (possibly related to that Viking sample?)

There was also an Egyptian mummy with H4a1 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-74114-9), c. 660 BCE.

3400 ybp is a pretty big window, but it is better than nothing, and I've seen way worse (15000 YBP... poor people). I tested just for fun and am happy to finally have this info :-)

It seems that I have a lot of double and even a few triple back mutations, it is kind of odd. My full list of mutations:

https://i.ibb.co/XLHsdq7/image.png

[~Elizabeth~]

Congratulations on getting your results. :clapping

I got my H1c12 from FTDNA in 2010.

[Kess]

Congrats on your results.

[Jingle Bell]

Looks like its very European predominant, interesting, maybe roman? Mycenaean? Crusader?

[sacha]

Looks like its very European predominant, interesting, maybe roman? Mycenaean? Crusader?

I honestly think it could just be an Anatolian line that had more success in Europe. I'm trying to figure out some mutations and their frequency right now... it does look kind of weird since no one from my region has the same mutations as me even under the H4a1 clade (on ftDNA as well), but I don't want to jump to conclusions too quickly.

[Abaddon]

Do you have Eurogenes K13 results?

[sacha]

Do you have Eurogenes K13 results?

Yes, I've shared before but I should probably do something more organized... at some point


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 49.98
2 West_Asian 19.21
3 West_Med 17.62
4 Red_Sea 9.54
5 North_Atlantic 2.78
6 Siberian 0.53
7 Sub-Saharan 0.27
8 Amerindian 0.06
9 Northeast_African 0.01

[sacha]

I am just using this to keep track of my stuff so xd.

I sent my file to a confirmed maternal relative (distant, but I know we are on the same line), she is asking someone she knows about it on Facebook (this is what I understood at least).

As I mentioned before, this is the 'subhaplogroup' I will end up in when they sort me on the H4 project. The Cuba person is one of 3-step matches, the other one I don't have information about.
https://i.ibb.co/3RdCR0g/Screenshot-2024-02-21-at-4-38-14-PM.jpg

I wish I could properly see some of the back-mutations (they don't show on ftDNA in 'mutations' when I am browsing the group, which sucks), but I have T146C!— same as these people, but they're in H4a1a1a. It could be a random mutation, but also interesting, maybe there is something in common there.

https://i.ibb.co/tJ43vd7/Screenshot-2024-02-21-at-4-44-12-PM.jpg

It looks like I am the only person on the entire H4 project with A241G as a mutation! It appears on the yFull mTree in these clades, but nothing under H4

https://i.ibb.co/brgLfj8/Screenshot-2024-02-21-at-4-48-44-PM.png

Actually, looking at the big H & HV project, unless I have missed something (which is very possible) I am the only one out of almost 15000 members, though not all of them have tests shared. I also checked the H Subclade Discovery group and nothing. So that's bizarre...

There's a bit more but that is all I have looked into for right now.