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ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 01:58 PM
I took all of the Valentine's Day averages for all of Scandinavia both ancient and modern and I ran my LM Genetics K47 Centromeres against the samples and it comes out to maybe 70% Slavic or a combination of Slavic and Balto-Slavic, and looks completely central European Slavic at 2x ADC. Your centromere show your most ancient DNA apparently. Different calculators will give you different distances back in time when you study your centromeres but I like the LM Genetics K47 results and sims for more recent yet ancient results.

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 6.5623% / 0.06562319 | ADC: 2x RC
100.0 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Central_ Euro_Slavic_Profile)_(low_res)

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 5.0503% / 0.05050302
28.8 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Central_ Euro_Slavic_Profile)_(low_res)
24.2 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(South_Sl avic_Profile)_(low_res)
19.8 Saami_Norway
16.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Funen_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
11.2 Sweden_Megalithic

Samples used:

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Nurzat
02-20-2024, 02:07 PM
i would remove low resolution/low coverage samples (and outliers as well, those named "_o") from any run, though. they could be missing important enough data that could have an impact on how you interpret them. try and re-run it without low_res and see if you still get Central Euro Slavic profile samples

Feiichy
02-20-2024, 02:07 PM
No. Distance is very poor.

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 02:19 PM
No. Distance is very poor.

But it's a measurement of that distance back, or, rather, each calc I run against my centromeres and low-coverage areas shows more ancient samples.

Measure your 22-chromosomes against your Davidski coordinates and you should show a few most ancient, with what you call poor distances, yet it's your DNA. I have 3-5 chromosomes that seem to carry "poor" distances, but these chromosomes carry ethnicities furthest from my most modern DNA in NW Europe

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 02:20 PM
i would remove low resolution/low coverage samples (and outliers as well, those named "_o") from any run, though. they could be missing important enough data that could have an impact on how you interpret them. try and re-run it without low_res and see if you still get Central Euro Slavic profile samples

I will try.

The centromere and low-coverage areas I use total about 100,000,000 (100 centimorgans) of DNA,

Feiichy
02-20-2024, 02:22 PM
But it's a measurement of that distance back, or, rather, each calc I run against my centromeres and low-coverage areas shows more ancient samples.

Measure your 22-chromosomes against your Davidski coordinates and you should show a few most ancient, with what you call poor distances, yet it's your DNA. I have 3-5 chromosomes that seem to carry "poor" distances, but these chromosomes carry ethnicities furthest from my most modern DNA in NW Europe

I see.

Dušan
02-20-2024, 02:22 PM
No. Distance is very poor.

All distances above 2.9 are poor.

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 02:38 PM
i would remove low resolution/low coverage samples (and outliers as well, those named "_o") from any run, though. they could be missing important enough data that could have an impact on how you interpret them. try and re-run it without low_res and see if you still get Central Euro Slavic profile samples



I took out all low-res samples. I get this:

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 6.8278% / 0.06827827 | ADC: 2x RC
53.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Funen_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
47.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 5.4806% / 0.05480632
29.0 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
23.2 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Funen_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
19.6 Finland_IA_Levanluhta
16.2 Sweden_Megalithic
9.2 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Western_Euro_Profile)
2.8 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Saami_Prof ile)


Centromere distances arrange from far to VERY far depending on calc:

Distance to: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
0.07396480 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Funen_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.07548367 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.07600858 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Central_ Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.07714379 Swedish_Norrland
0.07771840 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_Norse-Finnic_Profile)
0.07778515 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.07819656 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Finnic-Slavic_Profile)
0.07854664 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Stockholm_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic-Finnic_Profile)
0.07952985 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Nordic-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.07974452 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.08022687 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic-Finnic_Profile)
0.08121085 Finnish_Southeast
0.08127811 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.08139089 Finnish_Southwest
0.08143242 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Norse-Balto-Slavic-Finnic_Profile)
0.08151193 Sweden_High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_(Mixed_Nor se-Finnic_Profile)
0.08166982 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Uppland_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic-Finnic_Profile)
0.08167724 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_Nors e-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.08216343 Finnish
0.08232294 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Uppsala_(Mixed_No rse-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.08251309 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_(Mixed_Norse-Balto-Slavic-Finnic_Profile)
0.08253233 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.08258807 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Funen_(Mixed_Nor thern_Euro_Profile)
0.08328447 Denmark_High_Medieval_Copenhagen
0.08330485 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 02:41 PM
All distances above 2.9 are poor.

But that is if you are measuring most modern DNA you have. I think we all carry DNA way beyond 2.9. For modern fits, I understand.

Nurzat
02-20-2024, 02:58 PM
...

ran it without low_res for me and parents, we got lower distance but still don't know how to interpret it - we seem to have great affinity to this sample - Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile):

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.6762% / 0.02676220
80.4 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
19.6 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Finnic-Slavic_Profile)

Target: Nurzat_mom
Distance: 2.3208% / 0.02320778
91.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
3.8 Sweden_LN_Funnelbeaker_(TRB)
2.6 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Western_Euro_Profile)
2.6 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 2.6282% / 0.02628157
96.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
2.6 Sweden_LN_Funnelbeaker_(TRB)
1.4 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Saami_Prof ile)


edit: adding the distance to samples, that sample is closest to us as well:

Distance to: Nurzat_dad
0.02973203 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.04835709 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Central_ Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.04865764 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Nordic-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.04959366 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)
0.04999528 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)

Distance to: Nurzat_mom
0.02392714 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.03926641 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)
0.04735915 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Mixed_Western_Euro _Profile)
0.04862199 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_West ern_Euro_Profile)
0.04928028 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Mixed_W estern_Euro_Profile)

Distance to: Nurzat
0.02653586 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.04427641 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)
0.05054913 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Mixed_Western_Euro _Profile)
0.05110657 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_West ern_Euro_Profile)
0.05244776 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Mixed_W estern_Euro_Profile)

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 03:10 PM
I see.

Look how my chromosomes range in distance to my official Davidski coords.

As you can see, the best fit chromosome is roughly 12x "better" than the worst fit, yet it's all my DNA, so it's a perfect fit regardless.

Merged data:

Distance to: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
0.00572943 chr8m
0.01394314 chr10m
0.01520638 chr4m
0.02054225 chr1m
0.02104294 chr7m
0.02186627 chr6m
0.02516402 chr18m
0.02607661 chr2m
0.02654532 chr17m
0.02745725 chr5m
0.02765933 chr15m
0.02774441 chr3m
0.02877298 chr19m
0.03022167 chr11m
0.03312230 chr20m
0.04615153 chr12m
0.04664073 chr13m
0.04881876 chr22m
0.04973641 chr21m
0.05069780 chr16m
0.05780498 chr9m
0.06338312 chr14m

Ancestry-only data:

Distance to: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
0.00634920 chr8_Ancestry_Scaled
0.01440975 chr10_Ancestry_Scaled
0.01528917 chr4_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02092612 chr1_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02105440 chr7_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02283826 chr6_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02414586 chr18_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02461054 chr17_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02631586 chr2_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02741867 chr11_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02823639 chr3_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02824314 chr5_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02933085 chr15_Ancestry_Scaled
0.02997726 chr19_Ancestry_Scaled
0.03333171 chr20_Ancestry_Scaled
0.04351751 chr21_Ancestry_Scaled
0.04426754 chr13_Ancestry_Scaled
0.04791941 chr12_Ancestry_Scaled
0.05049945 chr22_Ancestry_Scaled
0.05248848 chr16_Ancestry_Scaled
0.05728614 chr9_Ancestry_Scaled
0.06517871 chr14_Ancestry_Scaled

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 03:30 PM
ran it without low_res for me and parents, we got lower distance but still don't know how to interpret it - we seem to have great affinity to this sample - Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile):

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.6762% / 0.02676220
80.4 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
19.6 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Finnic-Slavic_Profile)

Target: Nurzat_mom
Distance: 2.3208% / 0.02320778
91.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
3.8 Sweden_LN_Funnelbeaker_(TRB)
2.6 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Western_Euro_Profile)
2.6 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 2.6282% / 0.02628157
96.0 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
2.6 Sweden_LN_Funnelbeaker_(TRB)
1.4 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Saami_Prof ile)


edit: adding the distance to samples, that sample is closest to us as well:

Distance to: Nurzat_dad
0.02973203 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.04835709 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Central_ Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.04865764 Sweden_Early_Modern_Kalmar_(Mixed_Nordic-Balto-Slavic_Profile)
0.04959366 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)
0.04999528 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)

Distance to: Nurzat_mom
0.02392714 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.03926641 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)
0.04735915 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Mixed_Western_Euro _Profile)
0.04862199 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_West ern_Euro_Profile)
0.04928028 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Mixed_W estern_Euro_Profile)

Distance to: Nurzat
0.02653586 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Centr al_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
0.04427641 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)
0.05054913 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Mixed_Western_Euro _Profile)
0.05110657 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Mixed_West ern_Euro_Profile)
0.05244776 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Mixed_W estern_Euro_Profile)



Using my LM Genetics K47 sims from just my Centromeres & LCR, the Python tool gives me this:

https://i.postimg.cc/zBXjxHWq/CENTRO-LMGEN-K47-PYTHON.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Does it look Slavic? I think probably.

You need to test your own centromere data if you haven't to see what you get!

Via Globe 58 Scaled Individuals calc on Exploreyourdna.com:

Target: Cossack_Ukrainian
Distance: 1.5802% / 0.01580161 | ADC: 2x RC
57.6 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Lviv:EG600006
42.4 East_Europe:Belarusian:Belarusian5

Target: Sorb_Niederlausitz
Distance: 1.8486% / 0.01848573 | ADC: 2x RC
55.4 East_Europe:Ukrainian_Lviv:EG600063
44.6 Central_Europe:Polish:Polish25

ScandinavianCelt
02-20-2024, 04:13 PM
If I run my Centromere-LCR LM Genetics K47 sims against Official Modern Scaled samples it shows this:

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 5.7940% / 0.05793952 | ADC: 2x RC
55.0 Moksha
45.0 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 5.2956% / 0.05295613 | ADC: 1x RC
47.4 Moksha
36.8 Moldovan
15.8 Russian_Kaluga

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 2.4448% / 0.02444816 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.8 Ukrainian_Rivne
29.0 Moldovan
8.8 Quechua
7.2 Moroccan_North
5.4 Russian_Kaluga
4.8 Moksha

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 1.6693% / 0.01669294 | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.4 Belarusian
20.4 Ukrainian_Rivne
13.4 Moldovan
8.2 Quechua
7.2 Portuguese
6.6 Czech
5.8 Moroccan_North
3.8 Polish
2.2 Papuan

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 1.2414% / 0.01241445
27.6 Estonian
15.6 Sardinian
12.2 Lithuanian_VA
7.6 Belarusian
6.4 Lithuanian_RA
6.2 Surui
4.2 Russian_Smolensk
3.8 Berber_MAR_TIZ
3.4 German
3.2 Moldovan
2.8 Papuan
2.4 Lithuanian_VZ
2.0 Yemenite_Mahra
1.4 Lithuanian_SZ
1.2 Quechua

celticdragongod
02-21-2024, 01:12 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01919413 Danish
0.01925310 Iceland_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Hofstadir
0.01994185 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Continen tal_Northern_Euro_Profile)
0.01997112 Norwegian
0.02186691 Icelandic
0.02251611 Norwegian_Bergen
0.02262331 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Insular_Ce ltic_Profile)
0.02262564 Greenland_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Eastern_Settlement_(Early _Norse)_(Mixed_Gaelic-Norse_Profile)
0.02281435 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Norse _Profile)
0.02323055 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Mixed_No rse-Insular_Celtic_Profile)_(low_res)
0.02368809 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Norse_Profile)
0.02461633 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Mixed_Northern_Eur o_Profile)
0.02476366 Iceland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Mixed_Gaelic-Norse_Profile)
0.02483043 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Northern_Euro_Profile)
0.02555011 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Skara_(Continental_Northe rn_Euro_Profile)
0.02611781 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Conti nental_Northern_Euro_Profile)
0.02622438 Denmark_High_Medieval_Copenhagen
0.02649179 Sweden_High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jamtland_(Mixed_No rthern_Euro_Profile)
0.02705900 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Mixed_Nors e-Insular_Celtic_Profile)
0.02713977 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Zealand_(Mixed_N orthern_Euro_Profile)
0.02740149 Norway_Central_High_Medieval_(Norse_Profile)
0.02781815 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_(Norse_Profile)
0.02791317 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Sala_(Insular_Cel tic_Profile)
0.02792659 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(Mixed_No rse-Insular_Celtic_Profile)
0.02810329 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Jutland_(Mixed_N orthern_Euro_Profile)

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.8011% / 0.00801113
21.4 Iceland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Gaelic_Profile) _(low_res)
21.2 Norway_Central_High_Medieval_(Norse_Profile)_(low_ res)
17.6 Denmark_IA_Jutland
9.8 Norway_Central_High_Medieval_(Mixed_Northern_Euro_ Profile)_(low_res)
7.6 Iceland_Early_Modern_(low_res)
4.4 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(South_Sl avic_Profile)_(low_res)
4.4 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Stockholm_(Mixed_Western_ Euro_Profile)_(low_res)
3.8 Iceland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Mixed_Gaelic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
3.6 Swedish_East_Svealand
2.0 Greenland_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Western_Settlement_(Late_ Norse)_(Mixed_Gaelic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
1.6 Iceland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Norse_Profile)_ (low_res)
1.4 Norway_Central_High_Medieval_(Mixed_Western_Euro_P rofile)
1.2 Sweden_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Oland_(Central_Euro_Profi le)

oszkar07
02-21-2024, 07:18 AM
Bradovich
Are my origins Slavic?
https://vocaroo.com/12JdZIH1lfB2
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-121393ec79266bd03527ea79fe5e0290-lq

oszkar07
02-21-2024, 07:44 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.3863% / 0.01386314 | R4P
33.6 Norway_Central_High_Medieval_(Mixed_Western_Euro_P rofile)
30.8 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(South_Sl avic_Profile)_(low_res)
19.4 Sweden_High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Stockholm_(Mixed_N orse-Balto-Slavic-Finnic_Profile)_(low_res)
16.2 Iceland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Gaelic_Profile) _(low_res)

ScandinavianCelt
02-21-2024, 12:29 PM
i would remove low resolution/low coverage samples (and outliers as well, those named "_o") from any run, though. they could be missing important enough data that could have an impact on how you interpret them. try and re-run it without low_res and see if you still get Central Euro Slavic profile samples

Good news, I was able to get hold of ALL measurable centromere positions to calculate only them and not LCR also. I will post positions in a new thread for those who want to try them out. I find it fascinating how they represent more ancient and very ancient DNA we carry.

When I include all samples of my origins vs all Slavic samples, from the V-day Averages (all) list, I show about 25% Slavic at no ADC. At 1x ADC it's all Serbia. I have lots of Hungary roots, so it makes sense.


Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.5071% / 0.01507136 | ADC: 1x RC
30.6 Ireland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Dublin_(Insular_ Celtic_Profile)
24.6 Irish_Connacht
19.6 Scotland_EIA
17.6 Serbia_Early_Medieval_Gomolava_(Central_Euro_Slavi c_Profile)
7.6 Serbia_Roman_Empire-Late_Antiquity_Viminacium_Vise_Grobalja_(Central_E uro_Slavic_Profile)



The thing is, I have Eastern Slavic more than any other, coming from Russia, so I wonder if I add Russia into this mix what will happen? I will try.

No ADC:


Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Distance: 1.1397% / 0.01139748
17.8 Scottish_Argyll_and_Bute
14.4 Scotland_LIA_(low_res)
13.4 Irish_Connacht
9.4 Sweden_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Gotland_(South_Sl avic_Profile)_(low_res)
8.2 Scotland_Orkney_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Insular _Celtic_Profile)
8.0 Hungary_Late_Antiquity_Hun_(North_Balkan/South_Slavic_Profile)
7.4 Iceland_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Hofstadir_(low_res)
6.2 Ireland_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Dublin_(Insular_ Celtic_Profile)
3.6 Ireland_Early-High_Medieval_Kilteasheen_(low_res)
3.4 Scotland_CA-EBA_(low_res)
2.4 Poland_High_Medieval_Santok_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
2.2 Serbia_Early_Medieval_Gomolava_(Central_Euro_Slavi c_Profile)
1.8 Norway_Central_High_Medieval_(Norse_Profile)
0.8 Poland_High_Medieval_Krakow_(Mixed_Balto-Slavic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
0.6 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Saami_Prof ile)
0.4 Poland_High_Medieval_Dziekanowice_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(low_res)

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Two centromere/lcr results: Dodecad k12b vs LMGeneticsK47: vs all samples from above results:

Target: CENTROMERES.DODECAD.K12B.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 2.3570% / 0.02357031
21.8 Bell_Beaker_Scotland
17.2 Bosnia-Herzegovina_Unknown_Provenance_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
12.2 Poland_High_Medieval_Santok_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
11.6 Croatia_Early_Modern_Vinkovci_(South_Slavic_Profil e)
10.2 Norway_North_LNBA
8.6 Norway_North_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Saami_Prof ile)
7.4 Scotland_Inner_Hebrides_Skye_LIA
5.6 Scotland_CA-EBA_(low_res)
5.0 Scotland_Orkney_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_(Mixed_I nsular_Celtic-Norse_Profile)_(low_res)
0.4 Poland_Early_Medieval_Niemcza_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(low_res)

Target: CENTRO.LMGEN.K47.MRG.BRAD
Distance: 4.6097% / 0.04609703
32.6 Croatia_Early_Modern_Vinkovci_(South_Slavic_Profil e)
20.4 Poland_LIA_Wielbark_Kowalewko_o2_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(low_res)
19.4 Saami_Norway
17.4 Poland_High_Medieval_Balczewo_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)
5.6 Ireland_EN
2.6 Hungary_Late_Antiquity_Hun_(North_Balkan/Central_Euro_Slavic_Profile)
2.0 Poland_High_Medieval_Dziekanowice_(Balto-Slavic_Profile)_(low_res)

ScandinavianCelt
03-02-2024, 06:03 PM
Looks like a little bit of overlap, no?

I made good 22-chromosome coordinates with K36 via Gedmatch full chromosome results using my Ancestry-only data and plotted these against various groups. Here's how they plot versus all Slavic from the Valentine's Day Averages:

https://i.postimg.cc/zBTWHp1W/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-03-02-T134509-029.png (https://postimg.cc/Hcsjfwns)

https://i.postimg.cc/MHxB7RWL/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-03-02-T134615-190.png (https://postimg.cc/wyf3H1R5)

https://i.postimg.cc/KcrBZ9fh/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-03-02-T134804-945.png (https://postimg.cc/PNJPyQ0S)

https://i.postimg.cc/MHDQdTHp/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-03-02-T134912-977.png (https://postimg.cc/xNX8d9Lw)

https://i.postimg.cc/jdxNCz3w/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-03-02-T135004-601.png (https://postimg.cc/9zkznqhC)

https://i.postimg.cc/D02g2Rbm/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-2024-03-02-T140031-627.png (https://postimg.cc/YGsgRnRw)

Solitude
03-02-2024, 06:56 PM
I know that all Europeans who have descendants from the steppes would have Slavic descent until these ancestors arrived in Europe you will have several direct ancestors from Slavic regions , you can trace your direct ancestors to all the places your Y went

ScandinavianCelt
03-02-2024, 07:12 PM
I know that all Europeans who have descendants from the steppes would have Slavic descent until these ancestors arrived in Europe you will have several direct ancestors from Slavic regions , you can trace your direct ancestors to all the places your Y went

I plot quite closely to the Czech "Early-Slav" on the PCA, but I ran Gedmatch kit against actual sample and don't show any shared DNA with that sample, although it requires segments to be minimum of 3 centimorgans. I think my closest pieces probably come from Balto-Slavs who mixed in Gotland, Sweden, but other pieces show up from the Balkans and SE Europe.