View Full Version : classify this proto indo iranian man
Nationofsymbol
03-02-2024, 07:15 PM
127380
he is from the srubnaya culture
Nationofsymbol
03-02-2024, 09:41 PM
nump
Avicenna
03-02-2024, 10:31 PM
What do you think of these proto Indo Iranians?
https://i.ibb.co/VLJ0JLB/IMG-20240302-210258.jpg (https://ibb.co/L0YDY0p)
https://i.ibb.co/xSjB8Dw/IMG-20240302-210436.jpg (https://ibb.co/fYpyG2Z)
https://i.ibb.co/t8X0BTM/IMG-20240302-210412.jpg (https://ibb.co/RzyX2kp)
https://i.ibb.co/b1yg0JL/IMG-20240302-210319.jpg (https://ibb.co/6YpRMBb)
They look much more familiar to me than OP
Nationofsymbol
03-02-2024, 10:37 PM
the very top one has a sample on g25 and hes mixed with local native wshg ancestry, as for the longer faced one, he can pass in belgium or england, the guy i posted looks danish
Avicenna
03-02-2024, 10:42 PM
the very top one has a sample on g25 and hes mixed with local native wshg ancestry, as for the longer faced one, he can pass in belgium or england, the guy i posted looks danish
What's their Y DNA?
Nationofsymbol
03-02-2024, 10:43 PM
top is NC1 and the other is r1a
Avicenna
03-02-2024, 10:56 PM
top is NC1 and the other is r1a
OP is n1c? And the other two r1a? Wouldn't make the other two more likely the ancestors of indo Iranians ?
Nationofsymbol
03-02-2024, 11:03 PM
OP is n1c? And the other two r1a? Wouldn't make the other two more likely the ancestors of indo Iranians ?
i was talking about the two you sent, i dont know the y dna for the guy ive sent since he doesnt have his sample registered
Katarzyna
03-02-2024, 11:03 PM
top is NC1 and the other is r1a
Handsome men but bad y dna
Avicenna
03-02-2024, 11:17 PM
Handsome men but bad y dna
R1a? Coming from a pole you shouldn't self hate ;) have some respect for your grandfathers
Katarzyna
03-02-2024, 11:23 PM
R1a? Coming from a pole you shouldn't self hate ;) have some respect for your grandfathers
My paternal y-dna is I2, the superior Slavic haplogroup. I checked my tree, I didn’t come from an R1a ballsack at least in the last 3 generations.
Avicenna
03-02-2024, 11:34 PM
My paternal y-dna is I2, the superior Slavic haplogroup. I checked my tree, I didn’t come from an R1a ballsack at least in the last 3 generations.
Loool fair enough
You speak their language so I guess their ball sack were quite heavy loaded wink wink
Nationofsymbol
03-02-2024, 11:36 PM
Loool fair enough
You speak their language so I guess their ball sack were quite heavy loaded wink wink
hhahaha dude chill
Katarzyna
03-02-2024, 11:48 PM
Loool fair enough
You speak their language so I guess their ball sack were quite heavy loaded wink wink
Yeah you are right. I wonder if 5000 years ago I would have dated one of them. I guess I would be one of the unpopular opinions going for G2 and I2 betas ;)
Avicenna
03-03-2024, 02:44 AM
Yeah you are right. I wonder if 5000 years ago I would have dated one of them. I guess I would be one of the unpopular opinions going for G2 and I2 betas ;)
Yes maybe you could have preserved their languages
NSXD60
03-03-2024, 05:23 AM
British, Bill Nighy-oid.
Nurzat
03-03-2024, 06:49 AM
looks British - Scando-Kelt xD
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 06:07 PM
looks British - Scando-Kelt xD
yes he does look very intermediary between english and scandanvian in terms of looks, thats why i would say he is anglo-saxon phenotypically, id say looks dutch or from jutland
Hektor12
03-03-2024, 06:50 PM
Corded skull. Reconstruction looks a little bit wider for some reason.
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 07:36 PM
Corded skull. Reconstruction looks a little bit wider for some reason.
because it isnt corded lol, its anglo saxon, plus his metrics does not match the corded skulls at all
the very top one has a sample on g25 and hes mixed with local native wshg ancestry, as for the longer faced one, he can pass in belgium or england, the guy i posted looks danish
Whats his G25?
127380
he is from the srubnaya culture
proto indo iranian LOL
Distance to: Srubnaya_KZB002
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Eurafricanid
03-03-2024, 09:40 PM
Proto-Nordid + minor CM.
Eurafricanid
03-03-2024, 09:43 PM
proto indo iranian LOL
Distance to: Srubnaya_KZB002
14.84388089 German_West_Prussia
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42.06441964 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
42.25245200 Greek_Euboea
42.25750229 Spanish_Penedes
42.40203887 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
42.40259662 Spanish_Mallorca
42.51059397 Spanish_Baleares
42.55531224 Turkish_Adana
42.63406736 Hazara
42.72685689 Mari
42.74322285 Spanish_Lleida
42.84042483 Spanish_Alacant
42.94070447 Jewish_Ashkenazi
43.00530781 Spanish_Barcelones
43.00600656 Portuguese
43.06541188 Greek_Crete
43.20911362 Spanish_Galicia
43.23594222 Albanian_South
43.39441323 Spanish_Pirineu
43.43739403 Greek_Cyclades
43.48458922 Spanish
43.72960553 Spanish_Eivissa
43.96197220 Turkish_Kayseri
44.19575432 Italian_Marche
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44.73722723 Karelian
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45.22771495 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
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45.57469473 Greek_Andros
45.96017298 French_Corsican
46.09830908 Greek_Chios
46.43169284 Italian_Apulia
46.70334570 Tabasaran
46.76216312 Italian_South
46.80095405 Italian_Sicily
46.83053384 Spanish_Castello
46.91577773 Maltese
46.93431048 Spanish_Valencia
47.03578000 Spanish_Andalusia
47.16193062 Greek_Ikaria
47.19367436 Spanish_Aragon
47.43152116 Greek_Kythira
47.78013395 Italian_Lazio
47.82927555 Greek_Kalymnos
48.23230038 Italian_Calabria
48.85023337 Greek_Dodecanese
48.87669895 Spanish_Cantabria
48.95600985 Darginian
48.98637259 Italian_Campania
49.69193898 Shor
49.73221994 Greek_Pontic
50.25806701 French_South
50.38691100 Turkish_Trabzon
50.82374445 Saami_Norway
50.98717584 Assyrian
51.03982073 Finnish_Southwest
51.28785821 Armenian_Hemsheni
51.95024062 Cyprus
52.65405967 Iraqi_Jew
53.45526541 Egyptian
54.29338818 French_Southwest
55.23910843 Bahun
55.35005059 Saami
56.00776285 Kalash
58.51180821 Basque_Spanish
60.64638077 Pashtun_Kurram
61.31491988 Sindhi
61.35955997 Bedoiun
61.47004962 Lahu
62.06623639 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
62.18536001 Yi
62.20444036 Finnish
62.52530288 Tu
63.08818114 Palestinian
63.09903169 Naxi
63.20417154 Miao
63.31052598 Makrani
63.56075283 Balochi
64.40841405 Sardinian
64.55489447 Tibetan_Chamdo
64.87668379 Tujia
65.09155859 Brahui
65.87541271 Xibo
66.07258736 Jarawa
66.08529791 Hezhen
67.24907063 Onge
67.40542411 She
67.76638326 Druze
68.16524481 Yemenite_Mahra
68.29793701 Atayal
68.55926706 Ami
69.12266126 Cambodian
69.31524724 Nivkh
70.13035220 Ulchi
71.08867139 Ethiopian_Mursi
71.62295861 Luhya_Kenya
73.12410752 Li
73.47239277 Bantu_Kenya
73.64660413 Finnish_Northeast
73.95920227 Punjabi_Lahore
74.82610908 Bengali_Bangladesh
76.41656279 Mozabite
76.99854999 Gujarati
78.98756991 Somali_Kenya
79.64525472 Dusun
80.73210947 Dinka
83.70429678 Todzin
85.80346147 Eskimo
87.13630816 Masai
89.46173037 Quechua
90.80459735 Mayan
91.09968331 Gambian
92.13722700 Mende_Sierra_Leone
94.45683670 Mandenka
94.95073038 Mala
95.92221484 Yoruba
98.98745122 Esan_Nigeria
99.61259208 Itelmen
100.25515348 Japanese
100.66605883 Pima
103.62247826 Piapoco
105.53427026 Surui
105.55553751 Karitiana
He IS Proto-Indo-Iranian, the difference is that the modern Iranian speakers don't have much iranian DNA.
He IS Proto-Indo-Iranian, the difference is that the modern Iranian speakers don't have much iranian DNA.
Logically speaking, it is rather a close relative, whose offspring may have reached India.
Avicenna
03-03-2024, 10:28 PM
proto indo iranian LOL
Distance to: Srubnaya_KZB002
14.84388089 German_West_Prussia
15.21336912 Polish_North
15.27283536 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
15.44409596 German_Farther_Pomerania
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20.31540056 Ukrainian_Rivne
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20.78790514 cass36
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21.45108855 Faroese
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21.95426382 Icelandic
22.06006800 Volga_Tatar
22.13614013 Austrian_Carinthia
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22.21187970 Hungarian
22.40244853 German_Lower_Saxony_South
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22.43631209 Russian_Kirov
22.47231408 Erzya
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22.79865786 Dutch_North
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23.13551599 German_County_Glatz
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23.43060605 Russian_Novgorod_Pskov
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23.47921634 Dutch
23.50174674 German_North_Bohemia
23.75543096 German_Thuringia_Central
23.90471711 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
23.95317307 Croatian
24.03813429 Latvian_2
24.34233350 Bosnian
24.40841044 Russian_Krasnoborsky
24.65686111 Lithuanian
24.81200314 Estonian-2
24.92858801 Afrikaner
24.96882056 Moldova_North
25.06461051 Lithuanian_2
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25.94880922 English_Northeast
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26.81672799 Irish_Ulster
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26.98532749 Flemish
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27.89114376 Cornish
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28.11679747 German_South
28.40286957 Serb
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28.58240193 German_Bavaria_proper
28.69194835 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
28.78956755 Norwegian_North
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29.50606548 Montenegrin
29.58979047 French_Hauts-de-France
29.72798177 Swiss_German
29.81424827 Romanian_Southeast
29.88113284 Walloon
30.06083997 French_Northeast
30.74385630 Romanian_Northwest
30.78344523 Crimean_Tatar
30.82392253 Austrian_Tyrol
30.85702189 Romanian
31.22038597 Udmurt
31.40916586 German_Saarland
31.51140270 Moldova_South
31.90015517 Moldovan
32.03137368 Montenegrin
32.14885846 Russian_Pinega
32.16331917 Bulgarian
32.41348176 Gagauz
32.50445046 French
32.67397282 Russian_Pinezhsky
33.01594918 Russian_Leshukonsky
33.85686046 Bulgarian_2
34.97491101 North_Macedonian-2
35.56236916 North_Macedonian
35.84492014 Bashkir
35.91037733 Italian_Veneto
36.07563410 French_Provence
36.47923656 Italian_Friuli
37.05483774 French_Central
37.14911708 Chuvash
37.52599765 Albanian_Montenegro
37.53494905 Italian_North
37.89029559 Vepsian
38.15532990 Turkish_Istanbul
38.37175133 Greek_Thrace
38.68880717 Greek_Northeast
39.17348210 Greek_Central
39.17731997 Italian_Aosta
39.61347119 Greek_Central-Macedonia
39.81163775 Greek_Azov
39.81874056 Albanian_Kosovo
39.83820654 Greek_Istanbul
40.07479881 Siberian_Tatar
40.32617760 Uygur
40.49125338 Turkish_Balikesir
40.49579608 Portuguese_Azores
40.70136239 Albanian
40.82649262 Tatar_Siberian
40.96734675 Swiss_Italian
41.07966163 Turkish_Aydin
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41.23721499 Greek_Peloponnese
41.27243269 Albanian_North
41.43200816 Italian_Val_Borbera
41.51762517 Turkish
41.58342218 Albanian_North_Macedonia
41.89955728 Spanish_Girona
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42.25245200 Greek_Euboea
42.25750229 Spanish_Penedes
42.40203887 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
42.40259662 Spanish_Mallorca
42.51059397 Spanish_Baleares
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42.72685689 Mari
42.74322285 Spanish_Lleida
42.84042483 Spanish_Alacant
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43.20911362 Spanish_Galicia
43.23594222 Albanian_South
43.39441323 Spanish_Pirineu
43.43739403 Greek_Cyclades
43.48458922 Spanish
43.72960553 Spanish_Eivissa
43.96197220 Turkish_Kayseri
44.19575432 Italian_Marche
44.21835252 Spanish_Canarias
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45.57469473 Greek_Andros
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46.43169284 Italian_Apulia
46.70334570 Tabasaran
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47.19367436 Spanish_Aragon
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48.23230038 Italian_Calabria
48.85023337 Greek_Dodecanese
48.87669895 Spanish_Cantabria
48.95600985 Darginian
48.98637259 Italian_Campania
49.69193898 Shor
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50.25806701 French_South
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50.82374445 Saami_Norway
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51.03982073 Finnish_Southwest
51.28785821 Armenian_Hemsheni
51.95024062 Cyprus
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55.35005059 Saami
56.00776285 Kalash
58.51180821 Basque_Spanish
60.64638077 Pashtun_Kurram
61.31491988 Sindhi
61.35955997 Bedoiun
61.47004962 Lahu
62.06623639 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
62.18536001 Yi
62.20444036 Finnish
62.52530288 Tu
63.08818114 Palestinian
63.09903169 Naxi
63.20417154 Miao
63.31052598 Makrani
63.56075283 Balochi
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64.55489447 Tibetan_Chamdo
64.87668379 Tujia
65.09155859 Brahui
65.87541271 Xibo
66.07258736 Jarawa
66.08529791 Hezhen
67.24907063 Onge
67.40542411 She
67.76638326 Druze
68.16524481 Yemenite_Mahra
68.29793701 Atayal
68.55926706 Ami
69.12266126 Cambodian
69.31524724 Nivkh
70.13035220 Ulchi
71.08867139 Ethiopian_Mursi
71.62295861 Luhya_Kenya
73.12410752 Li
73.47239277 Bantu_Kenya
73.64660413 Finnish_Northeast
73.95920227 Punjabi_Lahore
74.82610908 Bengali_Bangladesh
76.41656279 Mozabite
76.99854999 Gujarati
78.98756991 Somali_Kenya
79.64525472 Dusun
80.73210947 Dinka
83.70429678 Todzin
85.80346147 Eskimo
87.13630816 Masai
89.46173037 Quechua
90.80459735 Mayan
91.09968331 Gambian
92.13722700 Mende_Sierra_Leone
94.45683670 Mandenka
94.95073038 Mala
95.92221484 Yoruba
98.98745122 Esan_Nigeria
99.61259208 Itelmen
100.25515348 Japanese
100.66605883 Pima
103.62247826 Piapoco
105.53427026 Surui
105.55553751 Karitiana
He probably represents something along the lines of Sintashta, modern day eastern Iranics score quite substantially autosmally.
Eurafricanid
03-03-2024, 10:39 PM
Logically speaking, it is rather a close relative, whose offspring may have reached India.
Sure.
Eurafricanid
03-03-2024, 10:58 PM
He probably represents something along the lines of Sintashta, modern day eastern Iranics score quite substantially autosmally.
What is substantial to you?
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 11:04 PM
proto indo iranian LOL
Distance to: Srubnaya_KZB002
14.84388089 German_West_Prussia
15.21336912 Polish_North
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20.31540056 Ukrainian_Rivne
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20.78790514 cass36
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22.06006800 Volga_Tatar
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40.96734675 Swiss_Italian
41.07966163 Turkish_Aydin
41.20763764 Greek
41.23721499 Greek_Peloponnese
41.27243269 Albanian_North
41.43200816 Italian_Val_Borbera
41.51762517 Turkish
41.58342218 Albanian_North_Macedonia
41.89955728 Spanish_Girona
42.06441964 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
42.25245200 Greek_Euboea
42.25750229 Spanish_Penedes
42.40203887 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
42.40259662 Spanish_Mallorca
42.51059397 Spanish_Baleares
42.55531224 Turkish_Adana
42.63406736 Hazara
42.72685689 Mari
42.74322285 Spanish_Lleida
42.84042483 Spanish_Alacant
42.94070447 Jewish_Ashkenazi
43.00530781 Spanish_Barcelones
43.00600656 Portuguese
43.06541188 Greek_Crete
43.20911362 Spanish_Galicia
43.23594222 Albanian_South
43.39441323 Spanish_Pirineu
43.43739403 Greek_Cyclades
43.48458922 Spanish
43.72960553 Spanish_Eivissa
43.96197220 Turkish_Kayseri
44.19575432 Italian_Marche
44.21835252 Spanish_Canarias
44.37258388 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
44.73722723 Karelian
45.05070144 Spanish_Valencia
45.22771495 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
45.40769428 Italian_Tuscany
45.57469473 Greek_Andros
45.96017298 French_Corsican
46.09830908 Greek_Chios
46.43169284 Italian_Apulia
46.70334570 Tabasaran
46.76216312 Italian_South
46.80095405 Italian_Sicily
46.83053384 Spanish_Castello
46.91577773 Maltese
46.93431048 Spanish_Valencia
47.03578000 Spanish_Andalusia
47.16193062 Greek_Ikaria
47.19367436 Spanish_Aragon
47.43152116 Greek_Kythira
47.78013395 Italian_Lazio
47.82927555 Greek_Kalymnos
48.23230038 Italian_Calabria
48.85023337 Greek_Dodecanese
48.87669895 Spanish_Cantabria
48.95600985 Darginian
48.98637259 Italian_Campania
49.69193898 Shor
49.73221994 Greek_Pontic
50.25806701 French_South
50.38691100 Turkish_Trabzon
50.82374445 Saami_Norway
50.98717584 Assyrian
51.03982073 Finnish_Southwest
51.28785821 Armenian_Hemsheni
51.95024062 Cyprus
52.65405967 Iraqi_Jew
53.45526541 Egyptian
54.29338818 French_Southwest
55.23910843 Bahun
55.35005059 Saami
56.00776285 Kalash
58.51180821 Basque_Spanish
60.64638077 Pashtun_Kurram
61.31491988 Sindhi
61.35955997 Bedoiun
61.47004962 Lahu
62.06623639 Finnish_Southeast_Ingria
62.18536001 Yi
62.20444036 Finnish
62.52530288 Tu
63.08818114 Palestinian
63.09903169 Naxi
63.20417154 Miao
63.31052598 Makrani
63.56075283 Balochi
64.40841405 Sardinian
64.55489447 Tibetan_Chamdo
64.87668379 Tujia
65.09155859 Brahui
65.87541271 Xibo
66.07258736 Jarawa
66.08529791 Hezhen
67.24907063 Onge
67.40542411 She
67.76638326 Druze
68.16524481 Yemenite_Mahra
68.29793701 Atayal
68.55926706 Ami
69.12266126 Cambodian
69.31524724 Nivkh
70.13035220 Ulchi
71.08867139 Ethiopian_Mursi
71.62295861 Luhya_Kenya
73.12410752 Li
73.47239277 Bantu_Kenya
73.64660413 Finnish_Northeast
73.95920227 Punjabi_Lahore
74.82610908 Bengali_Bangladesh
76.41656279 Mozabite
76.99854999 Gujarati
78.98756991 Somali_Kenya
79.64525472 Dusun
80.73210947 Dinka
83.70429678 Todzin
85.80346147 Eskimo
87.13630816 Masai
89.46173037 Quechua
90.80459735 Mayan
91.09968331 Gambian
92.13722700 Mende_Sierra_Leone
94.45683670 Mandenka
94.95073038 Mala
95.92221484 Yoruba
98.98745122 Esan_Nigeria
99.61259208 Itelmen
100.25515348 Japanese
100.66605883 Pima
103.62247826 Piapoco
105.53427026 Surui
105.55553751 Karitiana
thats not even his genetic distance, plus this is one sample, by proto indo iranian i meant people who came before modern iranics, those people were genetically closest to norweigans
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 11:05 PM
What is substantial to you?
40 shouldint even be considered major, still not exemplary of these old aryan people, look at the scythians they are around 60-70 mlba but deviate heavily from their sintashta-mlba predecessors
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 11:06 PM
Logically speaking, it is rather a close relative, whose offspring may have reached India.
it isnt, your logic doesnt make any sense, a half african and european doesnt make the osspring closer to either
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 11:06 PM
Proto-Nordid + minor CM.
id say he looks undoubtly tronder since he looks danish, he seems to have a bit of a dutch look to him, so anglo saxon would be better
Avicenna
03-03-2024, 11:07 PM
What is substantial to you?
30% + pretty much
Katarzyna
03-03-2024, 11:09 PM
I also agree with tronder classification
But both tronder and the eastern version Proto nordid have small dicks haha
it isnt, your logic doesnt make any sense, a half african and european doesnt make the osspring closer to either
The closest living populations to this Srubnya individual are those living along the Baltic Sea. What do you not understand?
He must have spoken Satem, and his haplogroup was probably close to me.
I also agree with tronder classification
But both tronder and the eastern version Proto nordid have small dicks haha
I'm completely confused.:cool:
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 11:37 PM
The closest living populations to this Srubnya individual are those living along the Baltic Sea. What do you not understand?
He must have spoken Satem, and his haplogroup was probably close to me.
edited mistake i thought you meant black sea: yes he did probably speak satem language but thats complicated since tocharians who were the most eastern part of indo european branch spoke centum, but these people were specifically most closest to Norwegian individuals or swedes, what i meant by my previous post was that this guy is not close to the indians or central asians, their actual descendants, especially this guy who came from the russian part of srubnaya culture, rather than ukranians (both were genetically bit different from each other)
I thought you were just another idiot who thought that South Slavs lived on the Baltic Sea.
Nationofsymbol
03-03-2024, 11:45 PM
I thought you were just another idiot who thought that South Slavs lived on the Baltic Sea.
lmao my bad
Eurafricanid
03-04-2024, 12:02 AM
30% + pretty much
Then they're not substantial, since from what I've seen the absolute max for Eastern Iranics is 23%
Avicenna
03-04-2024, 01:53 AM
Then they're not substantial, since from what I've seen the absolute max for Eastern Iranics is 23%
Different runs produce different amounts clearly، I've seen between the number stated and more than 35% depending which samples and runs. This is not exact science so there's no point arguing about it . My point is that eastern Iranics score the highest amount out of the indo iranian groups, I don't know why people expect us to walk on eggshells about this.
Eurafricanid
03-05-2024, 09:29 PM
Different runs produce different amounts clearly، I've seen between the number stated and more than 35% depending which samples and runs. This is not exact science so there's no point arguing about it . My point is that eastern Iranics score the highest amount out of the indo iranian groups, I don't know why people expect us to walk on eggshells about this.
which populations and which samples did you use to get such results? And did you use a turkic population too?
Avicenna
03-05-2024, 09:40 PM
which populations and which samples did you use to get such results? And did you use a turkic population too?
Tajik from Badakshan ( Afghanistan ) Eastern Iranic
Target: Tajik_Badakhshan:YPTPT061
Distance: 2.0989% / 0.02098937
46.0 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
24.2 Uzbekistan_Dzharkutan_BA_1
18.4 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I8726
9.2 Mongola
2.2 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I11459_enhanced
4-5 samples average of pashtuns from Kandahar who tend to have the lowest amount of steppe DNA out of Afghan pashtuns ( southern Afghanistan ) Eastern Iranic
Target: Pashtun_Kandahar
Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465722
29.8 Uzbekistan_SappaliTepe_BA
26.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
19.0 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I11459_enhanced
12.8 Uzbekistan_Dzharkutan_BA_1
4.4 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
4.2 Mongola
1.8 Israel_Natufian
1.6 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I8728_enhanced
Yaghnobi Average ( Tajikistan ) Eastern Iranic
Target: Tajik_Yaghnobi
Distance: 1.4197% / 0.01419711
39.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
33.2 Uzbekistan_Dzharkutan_BA_1
10.4 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
9.0 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
7.6 Mongola
0.4 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I11466_enhanced
A pashtun from Kurram Valley , NW Pakistan
https://i.ibb.co/SPsn7TP/Screenshot-20240305-224009.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZVL81sV)
https://i.ibb.co/bsKZ00J/Screenshot-20240305-223953.jpg (https://ibb.co/x170kkH)
Avicenna
03-05-2024, 10:20 PM
which populations and which samples did you use to get such results? And did you use a turkic population too?
I'm assuming this is what each population must have somewhat looked like
IVC ( Iran Shokhta )
https://i.ibb.co/sy0k5Lt/IMG-20240302-210625.png (https://ibb.co/J5f0xXC)
BMAC ( Uzbekistan bostan, sappali tepe etc )
https://i.ibb.co/98Hv93L/IMG-20240302-210524.png (https://ibb.co/xCqsS80)
Sintashta
https://i.ibb.co/vkTgMnX/IMG-20240302-210436.jpg (https://ibb.co/kXwkPCm)
https://i.ibb.co/hK1RhhS/IMG-20240302-210319.jpg (https://ibb.co/rZfGTTV)
Eurafricanid
03-05-2024, 10:25 PM
Tajik from Badakshan ( Afghanistan ) Eastern Iranic
Target: Tajik_Badakhshan:YPTPT061
Distance: 2.0989% / 0.02098937
46.0 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
24.2 Uzbekistan_Dzharkutan_BA_1
18.4 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I8726
9.2 Mongola
2.2 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I11459_enhanced
4-5 samples average of pashtuns from Kandahar who tend to have the lowest amount of steppe DNA out of Afghan pashtuns ( southern Afghanistan ) Eastern Iranic
Target: Pashtun_Kandahar
Distance: 1.4657% / 0.01465722
29.8 Uzbekistan_SappaliTepe_BA
26.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
19.0 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I11459_enhanced
12.8 Uzbekistan_Dzharkutan_BA_1
4.4 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
4.2 Mongola
1.8 Israel_Natufian
1.6 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I8728_enhanced
Yaghnobi Average ( Tajikistan ) Eastern Iranic
Target: Tajik_Yaghnobi
Distance: 1.4197% / 0.01419711
39.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
33.2 Uzbekistan_Dzharkutan_BA_1
10.4 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
9.0 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
7.6 Mongola
0.4 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2:I11466_enhanced
A pashtun from Kurram Valley , NW Pakistan
https://i.ibb.co/SPsn7TP/Screenshot-20240305-224009.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZVL81sV)
https://i.ibb.co/bsKZ00J/Screenshot-20240305-223953.jpg (https://ibb.co/x170kkH)
Using medieval (Tian Shan) Turks:
Target: Pamiri_Badakhshan:YPTPT061
Distance: 2.1568% / 0.02156764
39.6 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
19.4 Kazakhstan_Medieval_Nomad.SG
17.2 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
12.6 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
11.2 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
I was using Pashtuns, and It seems that the average is 26%, for them:
https://i.imgur.com/6LDapAT.png
Oghuz
03-05-2024, 10:27 PM
I'm assuming this is what each population must have somewhat looked like
IVC ( Iran Shokhta )
https://i.ibb.co/sy0k5Lt/IMG-20240302-210625.png (https://ibb.co/J5f0xXC)
BMAC ( Uzbekistan bostan, sappali tepe etc )
https://i.ibb.co/98Hv93L/IMG-20240302-210524.png (https://ibb.co/xCqsS80)
Sintashta
Baloch face
Afghan/Khorasani face
Avicenna
03-05-2024, 10:35 PM
Using medieval (Tian Shan) Turks:
Target: Pamiri_Badakhshan:YPTPT061
Distance: 2.1568% / 0.02156764
39.6 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
19.4 Kazakhstan_Medieval_Nomad.SG
17.2 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
12.6 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
11.2 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
I was using Pashtuns, and It seems that the average is 26%, for them:
https://i.imgur.com/6LDapAT.png
Well yeah I mean I was hoping for more Afghan pashtun samples, the only Afghan ones up there are Paktia, North Afghanistan and Northeast Afghanistan. Pashtuns from Khost score very high Sintashta.
Eurafricanid
03-05-2024, 11:03 PM
Well yeah I mean I was hoping for more Afghan pashtun samples, the only Afghan ones up there are Paktia, North Afghanistan and Northeast Afghanistan. Pashtuns from Khost score very high Sintashta.
JFF, I tried a similar model with Iberians and my euro-side:
Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 1.7095% / 0.01709454
43.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
40.0 Spain_C
8.0 Israel_C
5.2 Greece_MiddleMinoan
3.4 Saharawi
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.6152% / 0.01615230
44.0 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
32.4 Spain_C
12.6 Israel_C
11.0 Greece_MiddleMinoan
Avicenna
03-05-2024, 11:29 PM
JFF, I tried a similar model with Iberians and my euro-side:
Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 1.7095% / 0.01709454
43.4 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
40.0 Spain_C
8.0 Israel_C
5.2 Greece_MiddleMinoan
3.4 Saharawi
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.6152% / 0.01615230
44.0 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
32.4 Spain_C
12.6 Israel_C
11.0 Greece_MiddleMinoan
Btw I'm sure you know this but the BMAC and Tiana Shian samples used for the pashtuns also contain Sintashta right?
Eurafricanid
03-05-2024, 11:50 PM
Btw I'm sure you know this but the BMAC and Tiana Shian samples used for the pashtuns also contain Sintashta right?
They do contain Steppe/EHG DNA, not necessarily Sintashta, but in my Iberian calculator I don't really need any Steppe-admixed population.
Avicenna
03-06-2024, 12:11 AM
They do contain Steppe/EHG DNA, not necessarily Sintashta, but in my Iberian calculator I don't really need any Steppe-admixed population.
Yeah your Iberian one I'm assuming all of the steppe DNA was within the sintashta, however for the eastern Iranic ones which contains BMAC and Tian shan samples, some steppe went into them, so I'm guessing the sintashta amounts is a little higher than shown there. For Tajik pamiris and Yaghnobis you are looking at over 40%, for pashtuns around the 30% mark.
Babak
03-06-2024, 12:15 AM
Yeah your Iberian one I'm assuming all of the steppe DNA was within the sintashta, however for the eastern Iranic ones which contains BMAC and Tian shan samples, some steppe went into them, so I'm guessing the sintashta amounts is a little higher than shown there. For Tajik pamiris and Yaghnobis you are looking at over 40%, for pashtuns around the 30% mark.
West Iranics should be max 20% I think
Avicenna
03-06-2024, 12:17 AM
West Iranics should be max 20% I think
Yeah with higher ANF and Natufian, whilst eastern Iranics have higher Steppe, BMAC and IVC, staying more true to their iranic roots ;)
Babak
03-06-2024, 12:32 AM
Yeah with higher ANF and Natufian, whilst eastern Iranics have higher Steppe, BMAC and IVC, staying more true to their iranic roots ;)
Lmao oh well
Eurafricanid
03-06-2024, 01:07 AM
Yeah your Iberian one I'm assuming all of the steppe DNA was within the sintashta, however for the eastern Iranic ones which contains BMAC and Tian shan samples, some steppe went into them, so I'm guessing the sintashta amounts is a little higher than shown there. For Tajik pamiris and Yaghnobis you are looking at over 40%, for pashtuns around the 30% mark.
Yeah, the iberian calculator just has the Spain_C, which is 70-75% ANF & 20-25% WHG, the Minoan, which is 85% ANF & 15% Iran_N and the Israel_N, which is 48% ANF, 44% Natufian & 8% Iran_N and a modern North African Population.
Eurafricanid
03-06-2024, 01:11 AM
West Iranics should be max 20% I think
Target: Iranian
Distance: 2.5545% / 0.02554506
46.6 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
19.8 Iran_GanjDareh_N
14.8 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
8.8 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
6.4 Israel_C
3.6 Kazakhstan_Hun_Elite_LIA
Target: Kurdish
Distance: 1.4162% / 0.01416249
56.0 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
15.6 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
15.0 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
8.8 Israel_C
3.2 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
1.4 Kazakhstan_Hun_Elite_LIA
Babak
03-06-2024, 01:34 AM
Target: Iranian
Distance: 2.5545% / 0.02554506
46.6 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
19.8 Iran_GanjDareh_N
14.8 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
8.8 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
6.4 Israel_C
3.6 Kazakhstan_Hun_Elite_LIA
Target: Kurdish
Distance: 1.4162% / 0.01416249
56.0 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
15.6 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
15.0 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
8.8 Israel_C
3.2 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
1.4 Kazakhstan_Hun_Elite_LIA
Do a persian from shiraz or kerman
Eurafricanid
03-06-2024, 11:48 AM
Do a persian from shiraz or kerman
Target: Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
Distance: 1.1418% / 0.01141804
21.0 Israel_C
19.4 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
19.2 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
17.2 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
14.2 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
4.4 Kazakhstan_Hun_Elite_LIA
3.6 Iran_GanjDareh_N
1.0 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
Avicenna
03-06-2024, 12:22 PM
Target: Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
Distance: 1.1418% / 0.01141804
21.0 Israel_C
19.4 Iran_HajjiFiruz_N
19.2 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
17.2 Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
14.2 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
4.4 Kazakhstan_Hun_Elite_LIA
3.6 Iran_GanjDareh_N
1.0 Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
Interesting to see the higher BMAC amount scored for shirazis. Bro is it possible to post the breakdown of these samples? For instance what are they composed of? Just the IVC, BMAC and Sintashta samples?
Eurafricanid
03-06-2024, 01:43 PM
Interesting to see the higher BMAC amount scored for shirazis. Bro is it possible to post the breakdown of these samples? For instance what are they composed of? Just the IVC, BMAC and Sintashta samples?
Sure:
Target: Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
Distance: 2.9531% / 0.02953102
63.4 Iran_N
16.4 Yamnaya_Steppe
9.8 ANF
7.6 CHG
2.8 AASI
Target: Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
Distance: 2.5879% / 0.02587883
64.0 Yamnaya_Steppe
22.2 ANF
8.6 WHG
5.2 EHG
Target: Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
Distance: 3.0367% / 0.03036749
55.6 Iran_N
36.2 AASI
5.8 Yamnaya_Steppe
2.4 EHG
Target: Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
Distance: 2.6602% / 0.02660174
68.6 Iran_N
11.2 CHG
10.2 Yamnaya_Steppe
6.2 AASI
3.8 ANF
Avicenna
03-06-2024, 01:48 PM
Sure:
Target: Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
Distance: 2.9531% / 0.02953102
63.4 Iran_N
16.4 Yamnaya_Steppe
9.8 ANF
7.6 CHG
2.8 AASI
Target: Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
Distance: 2.5879% / 0.02587883
64.0 Yamnaya_Steppe
22.2 ANF
8.6 WHG
5.2 EHG
Target: Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
Distance: 3.0367% / 0.03036749
55.6 Iran_N
36.2 AASI
5.8 Yamnaya_Steppe
2.4 EHG
Target: Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
Distance: 2.6602% / 0.02660174
68.6 Iran_N
11.2 CHG
10.2 Yamnaya_Steppe
6.2 AASI
3.8 ANF
Amazing bro thank you :)
Avicenna
03-06-2024, 02:01 PM
Sure:
Target: Uzbekistan_Bustan_BA
Distance: 2.9531% / 0.02953102
63.4 Iran_N
16.4 Yamnaya_Steppe
9.8 ANF
7.6 CHG
2.8 AASI
Target: Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
Distance: 2.5879% / 0.02587883
64.0 Yamnaya_Steppe
22.2 ANF
8.6 WHG
5.2 EHG
Target: Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA2
Distance: 3.0367% / 0.03036749
55.6 Iran_N
36.2 AASI
5.8 Yamnaya_Steppe
2.4 EHG
Target: Iran_ShahrISokhta_BA1
Distance: 2.6602% / 0.02660174
68.6 Iran_N
11.2 CHG
10.2 Yamnaya_Steppe
6.2 AASI
3.8 ANF
Sorry bro but could you also add the Kazakhstan Tian shan as well?
Edit: thanks man
Tian Shan:
Target: Kazakhstan_Medieval_Nomad.SG
Distance: 8.8495% / 0.08849467
43.2 Nganasan
38.8 East_Asian
8.4 Yamnaya_Steppe
4.8 ANF
3.0 Iran_N
0.8 CHG
0.6 Amerindian_HG
0.4 Sub_Saharan_African
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