Eldgrim
03-05-2024, 09:07 PM
I just started using Vahaduo (I'm a complete beginner), and I've done some runs with my Balkan Turkish mother's G25, both scaled and unscaled.
One strange thing I noticed was when I used Vahaduo's "PCA modern scaled" as source, but I put in the unscaled G25 coordinates in target, the result was surprising. It was only filled with Turkic results, whereas when I put my scaled G25 coordinates in, it's almost exclusively Balkan as I would expect.
I'm not sure how scaled/unscaled works, but I assumed putting in the wrong coordinates would make it completely random, but why would it put everything at Turkic? Is it a coincidence?
Bonus question: Are there any good models for Turks?
PCA modern scaled - scaled G25 coordinates
Distance to: BalkanTurk_scaled
0.02035788 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02115159 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02203664 Montenegrin:Montenegro1
0.02362666 Macedonian:Macedonian2
0.02489912 Italian_Northeast:KF2700922
0.02573004 Macedonian:Macedonian7
0.02626201 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5
0.02685749 Albanian:NorthMacedonia2
0.02751690 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02755514 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.02764292 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02793923 Albanian:WestKosovo1
0.02808336 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.02812857 Montenegrin:Montenegro7
0.02842211 Greek_Macedonia:676
0.02858762 Gagauz:GAG-196
0.02874362 Rumelia_East:647
0.02893459 Rumelia_East:645
0.02902883 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia2
0.02910196 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia4
0.02923604 Serbian:726
0.02930237 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.02933380 Romanian:G408
0.02943404 Romanian:G428
0.02997393 Greek_Elis:IL-47[/QUOTE]
PCA modern scaled - unscaled G25 coordinates
Distance to: BalkanTurk
0.09483398 Tatar_Crimean_steppe:Crimean_steppe1
0.09704784 Turkish_Denizli:TDP_Denizli07
0.10225553 Turkmen_Uzbekistan:UZB101_turkmen
0.10310041 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya09
0.10329014 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya02
0.10368512 Turkmen:TUR043
0.10419926 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16653
0.10425835 Turkish_Balikesir:TDP_Balikesir01
0.10613878 Turkmen:TUR048
0.10623920 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya01
0.10627621 Turkmen:TUR013
0.10641391 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya08
0.10660428 Turkmen:TUR051
0.10751410 Turkmen:TUR054
0.10780298 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya06
0.10823863 Turkmen:TUR042
0.10844967 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Gumulcine1
0.10868667 Turkish_Denizli:TDP_Denizli04
0.10892651 Turkmen:TUR041
0.10961699 Turkmen:TUR008
0.11021493 Turkish_Denizli:TDP_Denizli02
0.11022155 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18596
0.11043916 Turkmen:TUR031
0.11060491 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya04
0.11060507 Turkmen:TUR035
One strange thing I noticed was when I used Vahaduo's "PCA modern scaled" as source, but I put in the unscaled G25 coordinates in target, the result was surprising. It was only filled with Turkic results, whereas when I put my scaled G25 coordinates in, it's almost exclusively Balkan as I would expect.
I'm not sure how scaled/unscaled works, but I assumed putting in the wrong coordinates would make it completely random, but why would it put everything at Turkic? Is it a coincidence?
Bonus question: Are there any good models for Turks?
PCA modern scaled - scaled G25 coordinates
Distance to: BalkanTurk_scaled
0.02035788 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02115159 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02203664 Montenegrin:Montenegro1
0.02362666 Macedonian:Macedonian2
0.02489912 Italian_Northeast:KF2700922
0.02573004 Macedonian:Macedonian7
0.02626201 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5
0.02685749 Albanian:NorthMacedonia2
0.02751690 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.02755514 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.02764292 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.02793923 Albanian:WestKosovo1
0.02808336 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.02812857 Montenegrin:Montenegro7
0.02842211 Greek_Macedonia:676
0.02858762 Gagauz:GAG-196
0.02874362 Rumelia_East:647
0.02893459 Rumelia_East:645
0.02902883 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia2
0.02910196 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia4
0.02923604 Serbian:726
0.02930237 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.02933380 Romanian:G408
0.02943404 Romanian:G428
0.02997393 Greek_Elis:IL-47[/QUOTE]
PCA modern scaled - unscaled G25 coordinates
Distance to: BalkanTurk
0.09483398 Tatar_Crimean_steppe:Crimean_steppe1
0.09704784 Turkish_Denizli:TDP_Denizli07
0.10225553 Turkmen_Uzbekistan:UZB101_turkmen
0.10310041 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya09
0.10329014 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya02
0.10368512 Turkmen:TUR043
0.10419926 Turkish_Balikesir:Balikesir16653
0.10425835 Turkish_Balikesir:TDP_Balikesir01
0.10613878 Turkmen:TUR048
0.10623920 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya01
0.10627621 Turkmen:TUR013
0.10641391 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya08
0.10660428 Turkmen:TUR051
0.10751410 Turkmen:TUR054
0.10780298 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya06
0.10823863 Turkmen:TUR042
0.10844967 Turkish_Rumeli:Turkish_Gumulcine1
0.10868667 Turkish_Denizli:TDP_Denizli04
0.10892651 Turkmen:TUR041
0.10961699 Turkmen:TUR008
0.11021493 Turkish_Denizli:TDP_Denizli02
0.11022155 Turkish_Aydin:Aydin18596
0.11043916 Turkmen:TUR031
0.11060491 Turkish_Antalya:TDP_Antalya04
0.11060507 Turkmen:TUR035