Why men don't like listening to female singer's

[rajputprincess]

men stream 18.1% from female or mixed-gender artists.
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/women-artists-music-study-2021-1138094/
https://sonosuite.com/en/blog/gender-gap-music-streaming-platforms/
According to billboard. 21% charting artist are woman. And lowest it is in hip hop 12%
Hip hop fans are so male dominated. Yet doja cat nicki Minaj have very female dominated fan base.

I checked other countries charts too like Japan turkey Pakistan etc 74 to 90% charting artist are men.

Male artist like justin bieber, harry styles can have predominantly female fan base of course there are male artist especially in hip hop like kanye West that have mostly male fan base.

Seem like woman don't have any problem in supporting men music.

Is it genetics? Do men dislike women voice?

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Sweetheart, you dont really consider any of that to be music, do you?

[Teutone]

The only performance by females i categorically reject to follow is female sports, as I want to watch the highest level of competition and there is a undeniable incredible huge gap in skill and athleticism between males and females.

Women cant rap as its a masculine form of music that is dominated by the gangster rap genre, who takes a criminal female serious?

But since rap is dominating the music industry recently, maybe it reflects in overall more male artist score higher streaming numbers than female artists.

On any other genre I dont think female artists arent good as men, pop music is dominated by female artists.

No man can have such a beautiful and pleasant voice:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQZhN65vq9E

[Creoda]

I like many women singers. None that you would list though. I can't stand women sport commentators on men's sport, which is on nearly every broadcast now. Turn it off every time. They've been shoehorned in for diversity, which the audience wasn't asking for.

[Benyzero]

:rolleyes:

[Universe]

men stream 18.1% from female or mixed-gender artists.
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/women-artists-music-study-2021-1138094/
https://sonosuite.com/en/blog/gender-gap-music-streaming-platforms/
According to billboard. 21% charting artist are woman. And lowest it is in hip hop 12%
Hip hop fans are so male dominated. Yet doja cat nicki Minaj have very female dominated fan base.

I checked other countries charts too like Japan turkey Pakistan etc 74 to 90% charting artist are men.

Male artist like justin bieber, harry styles can have predominantly female fan base of course there are male artist especially in hip hop like kanye West that have mostly male fan base.

Seem like woman don't have any problem in supporting men music.

Is it genetics? Do men dislike women voice?
This is one of those 1st world "problems"

[kingmob]

But we do.



https://youtu.be/UOvZKJlrtk8?si=kJGCOzPoEmRCf-Ch

[rajputprincess]

The only performance by females i categorically reject to follow is female sports, as I want to watch the highest level of competition and there is a undeniable incredible huge gap in skill and athleticism between males and females.

Women cant rap as its a masculine form of music that is dominated by the gangster rap genre, who takes a criminal female serious?

But since rap is dominating the music industry recently, maybe it reflects in overall more male artist score higher streaming numbers than female artists.

On any other genre I dont think female artists arent good as men, pop music is dominated by female artists.

No man can have such a beautiful and pleasant voice:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQZhN65vq9E

I agree that it is because hip hop is king now. Men dominante hip hop, rock, heavy metal. Because those are more cool genre.
Because of hip hop. Non white artist percentage also have increased
.

USC’s new report did find that musicians of color are on the upswing in hit songs: Non-white artists, both male and female, rose from a low in 31.2% in 2013 to 59% in 2020, marking a 46.7% total across the nine-year sample

So basically I guess men don't think that women have swag? And don't take criminal women seriously? That's why you believe that there are

But there can be female criminals. Cardi b popular rapper have committed crime herself lmao and she actually have lot of swag

Plenty of women think that those female hip hop artist have swag and are cool.

Yet she won't be taken seriously despite being cool and criminal? Reason because she is a women

Also women don't dominante hip hop. Lol there numbers are equal. Hack most listened pop artist on Spotify is a dude.
the report found that female artists were most prominent in pop (32%) and least prevalent in hip-hop/rap (12.3%).

Also plenty of dudes have very beautiful voice lmao. It depend on preference. Maybe you like high pitch voice

[Teutone]

I agree that it is because hip hop is king now. Men dominante hip hop, rock, heavy metal. Because those are more cool genre.
Because of hip hop. Non white artist percentage also have increased
.

USC’s new report did find that musicians of color are on the upswing in hit songs: Non-white artists, both male and female, rose from a low in 31.2% in 2013 to 59% in 2020, marking a 46.7% total across the nine-year sample

So basically I guess men don't think that women have swag? And don't take criminal women seriously? That's why you believe that there are

But there can be female criminals. Cardi b popular rapper have committed crime herself lmao and she actually have lot of swag

Plenty of women think that those female hip hop artist have swag and are cool.

Yet she won't be taken seriously despite being cool and criminal? Reason because she is a women

Also women don't dominante hip hop. Lol there numbers are equal. Hack most listened pop artist on Spotify is a dude.
the report found that female artists were most prominent in pop (32%) and least prevalent in hip-hop/rap (12.3%).

Also plenty of dudes have very beautiful voice lmao. It depend on preference. Maybe you like high pitch voice

Look at the numbers, females are hardly as criminal as men and not in terms of violent crimes its even more obvious.
12,3% is a joke.

Swag or anything like that, I dont know, I try to decode my brain from american poison influence such as rap that polluted my brain half of my life.

objectively there are hardly any new artist that can be described as artists, cause their art is a joke compare to real high art music of the past, this is not just the case in music but in any forms of art.

if your art has no craft/skill in it and is just trash, every construction site painter knows more about color theory than a modern painter financed and pushed by rich jews.

Same with the degenerate music industry, its destructive and has cultural importance, both female and male artists get pushed to break conventional and natural gender roles and encourage destructive and individualist behaviour in society, and the CEOs of the big music and streaming corporations are again jews.

instead of making this a issue of misogyny, you should realize that modern pop culture has a negative impact on both genders if you even believe there are only 2 genders.

There is objective high art and almost none of it was produced post 1945.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWrTmc7o1_0

The so called dark ages somehow produced better art, music, architecture than the post modern enlightened world.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

every construction site painter knows more about color theory than a modern painter financed and pushed by rich jews.


:laugh:

[Petalpusher]

Pop is undoubtedly dominated by female singers but i suspect that's not what people with streaming services will listen to on it, so stats might be skewed this way.
Im not gonna launch Tidal to listen to Dua lipa, it's everywhere already to the point you can't escape it, the Grammy's, TV, radio, etc...Nobody asked for it and there is way worse but everybody got the last single down the throat anyway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077SBOyJS-4

[rajputprincess]

Pop is undoubtedly dominated by female singers but i suspect that's not what people with streaming services will listen to on it, so stats might be skewed this way.
Im not gonna launch Tidal to listen to Dua lipa, it's everywhere already to the point you can't escape it, the Grammy's, TV, radio, etc...Nobody asked for it and there is way worse but everybody got the last single down the throat anyway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077SBOyJS-4
Pop according to statistics is not dominated by women.

And i have posted statistics of billboard.

32% charting pop artist are women. That mean 68 charting pop artist are men.

You think that. It is dominated by women. Because it have more women than hip hop, rock. Lol





You have ed Sheeran for every dua lipa. Justin Bieber for every Taylor Swift. Weekend for every Beyonce.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I have two playlists dedicated to '90s females (bands led by them and solo singers). There are 80 acts (40 in each playlist), so it's safe to say that I don't dislike female singers.

[Petalpusher]

Pop according to statistics is not dominated by women.

And i have posted statistics of billboard.

32% charting pop artist are women. That mean 68 charting pop artist are men.

You think that. It is dominated by women. Because it have more women than hip hop, rock. Lol





You have ed Sheeran for every dua lipa. Justin Bieber for every Taylor Swift. Weekend for every Beyonce.

It's not a matter of raw ratio in the music industry, 99% are unknown to the general public, male or female. Top Pop billboards have always been heavily females, but i would agree decreasingly less so in the past few years, yet Taylor Swift was the best selling "artist" of 2023, again.

[Voskos]

Seem like woman don't have any problem in supporting men music.
Women in general have no problem supporting or getting supported by men, indeed.


Is it genetics? Do men dislike women voice?
No, I like women's voices. just not enough to tolerate them around me 24/7.

Alright , alright, I'll have to stop trolling.

[rajputprincess]

It's not a matter of raw ratio in the music industry, 99% are unknown to the general public, male or female. Top Pop billboards have always been heavily females, but i would agree decreasingly less so in the past few years, yet Taylor Swift was the best selling "artist" of 2023, again.

There are so many famous men in pop. Harry Styles ed Sheeran justin bieber weeknd
At max pop is balanced.

Dominated by women is huge statement. Lmao

Yee Taylor Swift. Huge fan base. She is only western artist that is capable of having good album sales. Unlike kpop artist who can still have good album sales

[Annihilus]

Women are the best.


https://youtu.be/hdxn1qqKxp0

[Damião de Góis]

I like loads of female singers. Some of the women singers i like include:

Abba, Carperters, Cranberries, Belinda Carlisle, No Doubt, Cindy Lauper, Dido, Heart, Everything but the Girl, Tracy Chapman, Alanis Morissette, plus multiple portuguese ones you wouldn't know about.

I would say those are generally liked.

[#Oda#]

The so called dark ages somehow produced better art, music, architecture than the post modern enlightened world.

That's bs. Sorry.

[#Oda#]

...

Probable for the same reason they read less women's books.

[Insuperable]

I don't think that's true. It's just that mainstream songs performed by female singers like Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift or Dua Lipa are good for shit.

[Insuperable]

The same thing is with male pop artists like Justin Bieber and similar.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Most women singers are pop stars. Men - unless they're gay - don't like that type of music.

[rajputprincess]

The same thing is with male pop artists like Justin Bieber and similar.

Maybe you just hate pop?

What about hip hop? That is cool genre.

[TheMaestro]

I actually many times prefer women singing. Dont know I thought as a kid singing is only for women.
Nevertheless I like the 90s 00s women songs

Song like those do no harm and feel positive, huge nostalgia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwkej79U3ek

[Richmondbread]

I like Patsy Cline and a few others. But most female singers tend to all sound the same and I don't like the music they perform. Most men are into heavier music too. So there's that.

[Richmondbread]

I actually many times prefer women singing. Dont know I thought as a kid singing is only for women.
Nevertheless I like the 90s 00s women songs

Song like those do no harm and feel positive, huge nostalgia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwkej79U3ek

I never thought singing is for women. What Jewish propagandist told you that? Performance is a masculine trait, not feminine.
Her voice is sounds like a banshee wail.

[Richmondbread]

Most women singers are pop stars. Men - unless they're gay - don't like that type of music.

Pop singers in the past were mostly male like Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and the Rat Pack- that appealed to male listeners more , I think. In the last 40 years The modern Pop music is very much dance music- dance music by nature is very homosexual.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Most women singers are pop stars. Men - unless they're gay - don't like that type of music.

I must be as gay as Laredo, then. My penis still hasn't gotten the memo, though.

[frankhammer]

Women's voices aren't the problem imo. It is mostly the lyrics which seem self-centred and shallow.

[Laredo]

I must be as gay as Laredo, then. My penis still hasn't gotten the memo, though.

I don't listen to female singers at all. Maybe one or two and the would be Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj but their songs tends to be for all audiences.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I don't listen to female singers at all. Maybe one or two and the would be Ariana Grande and Nicki Minaj but their songs tends to be for all audiences.

I'm not into the current crop of female singers, but I like Adele and Billie Eilish. I'm clueless about the Top Forty now, though.

[oszkar07]

men stream 18.1% from female or mixed-gender artists.
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/women-artists-music-study-2021-1138094/
https://sonosuite.com/en/blog/gender-gap-music-streaming-platforms/
According to billboard. 21% charting artist are woman. And lowest it is in hip hop 12%
Hip hop fans are so male dominated. Yet doja cat nicki Minaj have very female dominated fan base.

I checked other countries charts too like Japan turkey Pakistan etc 74 to 90% charting artist are men.

Male artist like justin bieber, harry styles can have predominantly female fan base of course there are male artist especially in hip hop like kanye West that have mostly male fan base.

Seem like woman don't have any problem in supporting men music.

Is it genetics? Do men dislike women voice?

Many women are highly annoying when you give them a microphone.

With the exceptions of the ones who I say have "got soul".

Amy Whinehouse was nice to listen to and she actually wrote many good songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bazpt6moUMo

Stevie Nicks , a great singer however was fortunate to be around magnificent musician like Lyndsey Buckingham and other members Fleetwood Mc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oWyMakvQew

Aretha Franklin - queen of soul what can i say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D7mBqRyQZo

Joni Mitchell:To quote an old saying if I have to explain then it means you wouldn't understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWUgPIQNgGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm39YkGrHp8

Blondie the pop group consisted of amazing songwriters and musicians such as Chris Stein and drummer Clem Burke but Debra Harry was a great fit for lead singer, charismatic in her own way and a unique vocal style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvqgb1D6Opw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU
Pat Benetar: great voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRD80XRMT7s

Kate Bush: phenomenal songs like this one ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp43OdtAAkM

Honourable mentions = Annie Lennox, Sade, Ricki Lee Jones , Tina Turner, Carol King, Cher, Christina Aguilira,Linda Ronstadt

[Mr.G]

I certainly like a number of female singers.

Best I've ever seen is Jewel. In "ripping off" Leonard Cohen with this song, she reached his level, imo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VxoDrTHCmI

[BakersfieldChimp]

Women's voices aren't the problem imo. It is mostly the lyrics which seem self-centred and shallow.

Men can pull this stuff too. When I first heard Morrissey compare himself to Joan of Ark, I was done with him before I really got started.

[Richmondbread]

Some female singers have ruined good songs.

See how Celine Dion's treatment of "All By Myself" compared to the original by Eric Carmen. She has the pipes, but no pathos. He's got the heart and soul of the song and the delivery is more nuanced. I can name several others like this that happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoiN8vZ6WwE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT2gVblzFvY

[Rædwald]

I listen to Female singers often, just no current ones.

[NSXD60]

Some female singers have ruined good songs.

See how Celine Dion's treatment of "All By Myself" compared to the original by Eric Carmen. She has the pipes, but no pathos. He's got the heart and soul of the song and the delivery is more nuanced. I can name several others like this that happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoiN8vZ6WwE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT2gVblzFvY

Imagine Eric Carmen still alive and believing the Brigitte Macron is a really a man rumor and thinking the time has come for him to revise his signature song:

Though I am hung
I never seeded any bum
And ladyloves got all the cum
Those days are done

Brigitte Macron
Don't want to feel some chick I've felt anymore
Brigitte Macron
Just want to smudge the dick I've dealt till it's sore

[Jansob]

I never thought singing is for women. What Jewish propagandist told you that? Performance is a masculine trait, not feminine.


Yeah, that girly King David with his singing and dancing....what a sissy.

And now Jewish propaganda is concerned with getting women to sing? Where do you even come up with this stuff?

[Jansob]

And some male singers have done terrible versions of songs.

[BakersfieldChimp]

https://youtu.be/P8fNwOJE1g4

[BakersfieldChimp]

This happens too

great version by the songwriter...


https://youtu.be/IOoMREvsV9E


This female hits it out of the park


https://youtu.be/sfjon-ZTqzU

[Hyena]

I never thought singing is for women. What Jewish propagandist told you that? Performance is a masculine trait, not feminine.
Her voice is sounds like a banshee wail.

What do Jews have to do with anything in this matter? Really curious. Are Jews somehow against male singers?

As to whether singing is masculine, that depends very much on HOW you sing.

[BakersfieldChimp]

What do Jews have to do with anything in this matter? Really curious. Are Jews somehow against male singers?

As to whether singing is masculine, that depends very much on HOW you sing.

Perhaps we should scour Al Jolson's "The Jazz Singer" for clues. The Neil Diamond remake from the 1970s could also provide some insight.

There is a slight chance that Richy could just be scapegoating the Jews again, but can we afford to take any chances?

[Jansob]

What's infuriating to me about Richie's opinions is that he never has any logical reasons for them, and never backs them up with anything but doltish certainty.
I don't have to agree to want to know the reasoning behind it. I think it's interesting to see the reasoning.

But with Richie it's like it fell out of the sky and he picked it up and posted it, with zero reasoning other that he doesn't like women or Jews so he has to constantly say shit about them.

[Anglo-Celtic]

But with Richie it's like it fell out of the sky and he picked it up and posted it, with zero reasoning other that he doesn't like women or Jews so he has to constantly say shit about them.

You know what they say. Self hate is a hell of a drug.

[BakersfieldChimp]

What's infuriating to me about Richie's opinions is that he never has any logical reasons for them, and never backs them up with anything but doltish certainty.
I don't have to agree to want to know the reasoning behind it. I think it's interesting to see the reasoning.

But with Richie it's like it fell out of the sky and he picked it up and posted it, with zero reasoning other that he doesn't like women or Jews so he has to constantly say shit about them.

How have these behaviors been working out for him?

It is a cautionary tale.

[Mr.G]

Another modern female singer that I think is exceptional.. Miley Cyrus. I'm not a fan per se, I don't know her music, but every time I've seen her perform it's really good.

[Celestia]

Look at the lyrics. Popular artists like Taylor Swift have a niche of victimizing lyrics that attract teenage girls entering their hormones. Why would men listen to that?
Also I doubt Harry Styles has a large male fan base. The dude parades around in dresses.

[Richmondbread]

This happens too

great version by the songwriter...


https://youtu.be/IOoMREvsV9E


This female hits it out of the park


https://youtu.be/sfjon-ZTqzU

If you like caterwauling. I can give better examples of female covers than that.

[Richmondbread]

Another modern female singer that I think is exceptional.. Miley Cyrus. I'm not a fan per se, I don't know her music, but every time I've seen her perform it's really good.

She does better music slightly. I like singers who don't take over the song. Many female singers tend to do this thing like Adele and Celine Dion where they are more important than the song. Miley does a better job of letting the song do it.

[Richmondbread]

And some male singers have done terrible versions of songs.

Not as often. But the hyperbole is so great behind many female artists. If they do a lousy cover of a song they get praised for their "vocal prowess". I have to ask if the people have hearing issues? I'm not saying there aren't any good female singers, there are plenty. But the ones that get the most attention seem to be the least pleasant, IMO.


BTW, look at Madonna's atrocious version of "American Pie". Not only does she completely ruin it, she misses the true meaning behind the song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4RDB-mMDJg

[BakersfieldChimp]

If you like caterwauling. I can give better examples of female covers than that.

Your own music lacks character and soul, so I'm not surprised that you can not hear it in other singers.

[Richmondbread]

Your own music lacks character and soul, so I'm not surprised that you can not hear it in other singers.

OFC you would start in on that. Do you realize I'm not even the OP of this thread? Janice Joplin is painful to listen to.

[BakersfieldChimp]

OFC you would start in on that. Do you realize I'm not even the OP of this thread? Janice Joplin is painful to listen to.

I knew I didn't post the Joplin thing to a thread you started.
You responded to my post.
I responded to your response.

[Hektor12]

...Until they meet Birdy at a cinema hall...


https://youtu.be/lrdJTdAh1_s

[Richmondbread]

Here are some female singers I do enjoy:

Patsy Cline

[BakersfieldChimp]

Here are three female singers singing a song better than the male who wrote the song.
There are from the Americana/roots stuff I grew up on.


https://youtu.be/iMYcxpkRRDE

It is gender swapped so the title is different.


https://youtu.be/cZeXAJ3WLQk

Notice his first name is spelled joHn


https://youtu.be/Vy_me4Xzesw


https://youtu.be/rusxEHQG_ow


https://youtu.be/cXw8pp6l-vo

of course, Lucinda Williams was the queen of caterwauling in the nineties.
That didn't stop her from winning grammys and being featured in films including the very first x-men

https://youtu.be/4mlp7N3t1fs

[Comealongwithme]

I enjoy listening to women sing. Unfortunately, western musicians these days give little incentives to make me enjoy listening to their products. Thank God for Kpop and J-Pop though. Now those guys are amazing!

[Anatolya]

Sounds gay tbh

[RogueState]

There are many great female singers (that I like myself to listen to), but truth to be told it's mostly "when homies aren't around"...

Indeed, it's a certain category of "men" that are fans of Madonna, Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Céline Dion, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, ABBA, Cher, Spice Girls, ...

[Richmondbread]

Here are three female singers singing a song better than the male who wrote the song.
There are from the Americana/roots stuff I grew up on.


https://youtu.be/iMYcxpkRRDE

It is gender swapped so the title is different.


https://youtu.be/cZeXAJ3WLQk

Notice his first name is spelled joHn


https://youtu.be/Vy_me4Xzesw


https://youtu.be/rusxEHQG_ow


https://youtu.be/cXw8pp6l-vo

of course, Lucinda Williams was the queen of caterwauling in the nineties.
That didn't stop her from winning grammys and being featured in films including the very first x-men

https://youtu.be/4mlp7N3t1fs

I don't care for either versions tbh.

[BakersfieldChimp]

I don't care for either versions tbh.

Of course, you don't care for them. I like them so you cannot.

I doubt you even bothered to sample any of those songs.

[Hyena]

Of course, you don't care for them. I like them so you cannot.

I doubt you even bothered to sample any of those songs.

You're going to have to dig pretty deep to find ANY successful female (or for that matter male) entertainer who doesn't inspire spiteful envy from meade.

It's just so unfair that all these people, who clearly have NO talent, NO singing ability, NO sense of tone, NO artistic taste, manage to captivate their fans.

[BakersfieldChimp]

You're going to have to dig pretty deep to find ANY successful female (or for that matter male) entertainer who doesn't inspire spiteful envy from meade.

It's just so unfair that all these people, who clearly have NO talent, NO singing ability, NO sense of tone, NO artistic taste, manage to captivate their fans.

He doesn't have the intellectual curiosity to go beyond simplistic "pretty, pretty" things.

[Richmondbread]

You're going to have to dig pretty deep to find ANY successful female (or for that matter male) entertainer who doesn't inspire spiteful envy from meade.

It's just so unfair that all these people, who clearly have NO talent, NO singing ability, NO sense of tone, NO artistic taste, manage to captivate their fans.

I have no envy of any female singer and I'm not the one who started this thread. I did point out that a lot of female covers from the original male artist have been dreadful. That doesn't mean all female singers are bad, it's just they don't seem to do justice to the original.