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Eurafricanid
03-11-2024, 10:56 PM
I've finally isolated the Iberian component in Europe, so, let's see how Iberian you are!







Components:
USE ADD DIST COL - 0.25x.

This calculator was made for ADC 0.25x.

Ignore the above statement if you're a mixed* LATAM.

*mixed with non Western Eurasian.



Components below:

If you're part Iberian (1/4 or more) use only the one For Iberians.



For Iberians:
Iberian_East,0.1184852,0.1466671,0.0411899,0.00006 46,0.0441266,-0.0008648,-0.0009887,0.0017645,0.0225256,0.0319384,-0.0031286,0.0079933,-0.0149823,-0.011601,0.0082183,0.0009705,-0.0014005,0.0002809,-0.001533,-0.0017668,0.0035137,-0.000132,-0.002082,-0.0028061,0.0000488
Iberian_Central,0.1156324,0.1462228,0.0429879,-0.0000613,0.04587,-0.0026635,-0.001657,0.0019672,0.0248004,0.033856,-0.0041126,0.0085446,-0.0156938,-0.0139212,0.010809,0.0007316,-0.0025904,-0.0009858,-0.0033166,-0.001854,0.0035471,-0.0005144,-0.002592,-0.0042812,-0.000677
Iberian_West,0.106563,0.145623,0.03674,-0.003236,0.042655,-0.003776,-0.004222,0.002452,0.025403,0.030146,-0.001154,0.006941,-0.012896,-0.01132,0.011758,-0.000897,-0.002824,-0.001215,-0.00578,-0.000251,0.001757,-0.003251,0.00042,-0.001413,0.000817
Iberian_North,0.1233254,0.1478558,0.0492535,0.0051 37,0.0494324,-0.0002853,-0.0017053,0.0015248,0.0254581,0.0377799,-0.0054249,0.010101,-0.0185659,-0.015616,0.012488,0.0027904,-0.0033261,0.0007546,-0.0024378,-0.0025276,0.005635,-0.0001446,-0.005443,-0.0050814,0.0014271
Northeast_Euro,0.133856,0.1230484,0.081898,0.07953 34,0.0417206,0.0302968,0.0116644,0.0136994,-0.0012204,-0.030743,-0.0031342,-0.0115148,0.0212734,0.0293044,-0.0109118,0.0001282,0.0008736,-0.0000043,0.0028742,0.0016259,-0.0035147,-0.0051604,0.0083972,-0.0080932,0.0016646
Northwest_Euro,0.1332519,0.1296292,0.0667422,0.053 4416,0.0403405,0.0201096,0.005305,0.0069933,0.0035 97,-0.005397,-0.004077,0.0036383,-0.0072955,-0.0079836,0.0179506,0.0042366,-0.0069207,0.001529,0.0029828,0.0012776,0.0049877,0 .0026024,0.0037692,0.0151958,0.0014432
Central_Med,0.1202747,0.1556303,0.0206336,-0.031555,0.0401615,-0.0137039,-0.0022873,0.0001032,0.0209758,0.0447941,-0.0003238,0.0100587,-0.0177902,-0.007928,-0.0067839,-0.0014709,0.0058663,0.0000637,0.0024883,-0.0066234,-0.0014935,0.0001843,-0.0044657,-0.0065243,-0.0004729
Northwest_Asian,0.1005382,0.1330353,-0.0502875,-0.0546744,-0.0249249,-0.0143729,0.0037152,-0.0048888,-0.0242161,-0.0008478,0.002473,0.0018465,-0.0026003,0.001783,-0.0044663,0.0007822,0.0027189,0.0007628,0.0016919,-0.0019682,0.0010317,0.001192,-0.0005444,-0.0019299,0.0005901
Levantine,0.0670288,0.1390898,-0.051378,-0.0809279,-0.0124997,-0.0293704,-0.0038523,-0.004989,0.0133709,0.0039194,0.0071515,-0.00855,0.0175148,0.0036213,-0.0035828,0.0066214,-0.0041597,0.0002978,0.0005974,0.0001408,0.0002724, 0.0030709,-0.000215,0.0004568,0.0017227
North_Africa,-0.0900124,0.134589,-0.0034753,-0.0779964,0.0283866,-0.035694,-0.0335269,0.0085301,0.0820124,0.0319662,0.0104299,-0.0100574,0.0263814,-0.0162141,0.0224778,-0.0161201,-0.0002903,-0.0268785,-0.0521612,0.0114816,-0.0187224,-0.0465488,0.027938,-0.0069558,0.0105043
Turkic,0.0533549,-0.2832058,0.0489314,-0.0138486,-0.0365452,-0.0163501,0.012103,0.0135861,-0.0031189,-0.0017312,-0.0304479,-0.0015361,-0.0002787,-0.0029245,0.0054968,-0.0002485,-0.0019719,0.0001899,0.0021055,0.0083635,-0.0121661,-0.0018858,-0.0081652,-0.0029522,0.0004492



AGGREGATE - YES and NO, please

For non-Iberians:
Iberian:East,0.1184852,0.1466671,0.0411899,0.00006 46,0.0441266,-0.0008648,-0.0009887,0.0017645,0.0225256,0.0319384,-0.0031286,0.0079933,-0.0149823,-0.011601,0.0082183,0.0009705,-0.0014005,0.0002809,-0.001533,-0.0017668,0.0035137,-0.000132,-0.002082,-0.0028061,0.0000488
Iberian:Central,0.1156324,0.1462228,0.0429879,-0.0000613,0.04587,-0.0026635,-0.001657,0.0019672,0.0248004,0.033856,-0.0041126,0.0085446,-0.0156938,-0.0139212,0.010809,0.0007316,-0.0025904,-0.0009858,-0.0033166,-0.001854,0.0035471,-0.0005144,-0.002592,-0.0042812,-0.000677
Iberian:West,0.106563,0.145623,0.03674,-0.003236,0.042655,-0.003776,-0.004222,0.002452,0.025403,0.030146,-0.001154,0.006941,-0.012896,-0.01132,0.011758,-0.000897,-0.002824,-0.001215,-0.00578,-0.000251,0.001757,-0.003251,0.00042,-0.001413,0.000817
Iberian:North,0.1233254,0.1478558,0.0492535,0.0051 37,0.0494324,-0.0002853,-0.0017053,0.0015248,0.0254581,0.0377799,-0.0054249,0.010101,-0.0185659,-0.015616,0.012488,0.0027904,-0.0033261,0.0007546,-0.0024378,-0.0025276,0.005635,-0.0001446,-0.005443,-0.0050814,0.0014271
Northeast_Euro,0.133856,0.1230484,0.081898,0.07953 34,0.0417206,0.0302968,0.0116644,0.0136994,-0.0012204,-0.030743,-0.0031342,-0.0115148,0.0212734,0.0293044,-0.0109118,0.0001282,0.0008736,-0.0000043,0.0028742,0.0016259,-0.0035147,-0.0051604,0.0083972,-0.0080932,0.0016646
Northwest_Euro,0.1332519,0.1296292,0.0667422,0.053 4416,0.0403405,0.0201096,0.005305,0.0069933,0.0035 97,-0.005397,-0.004077,0.0036383,-0.0072955,-0.0079836,0.0179506,0.0042366,-0.0069207,0.001529,0.0029828,0.0012776,0.0049877,0 .0026024,0.0037692,0.0151958,0.0014432
Central_Med,0.1202747,0.1556303,0.0206336,-0.031555,0.0401615,-0.0137039,-0.0022873,0.0001032,0.0209758,0.0447941,-0.0003238,0.0100587,-0.0177902,-0.007928,-0.0067839,-0.0014709,0.0058663,0.0000637,0.0024883,-0.0066234,-0.0014935,0.0001843,-0.0044657,-0.0065243,-0.0004729
Northwest_Asian,0.1005382,0.1330353,-0.0502875,-0.0546744,-0.0249249,-0.0143729,0.0037152,-0.0048888,-0.0242161,-0.0008478,0.002473,0.0018465,-0.0026003,0.001783,-0.0044663,0.0007822,0.0027189,0.0007628,0.0016919,-0.0019682,0.0010317,0.001192,-0.0005444,-0.0019299,0.0005901
Levantine,0.0670288,0.1390898,-0.051378,-0.0809279,-0.0124997,-0.0293704,-0.0038523,-0.004989,0.0133709,0.0039194,0.0071515,-0.00855,0.0175148,0.0036213,-0.0035828,0.0066214,-0.0041597,0.0002978,0.0005974,0.0001408,0.0002724, 0.0030709,-0.000215,0.0004568,0.0017227
North_Africa,-0.0900124,0.134589,-0.0034753,-0.0779964,0.0283866,-0.035694,-0.0335269,0.0085301,0.0820124,0.0319662,0.0104299,-0.0100574,0.0263814,-0.0162141,0.0224778,-0.0161201,-0.0002903,-0.0268785,-0.0521612,0.0114816,-0.0187224,-0.0465488,0.027938,-0.0069558,0.0105043
Turkic,0.0533549,-0.2832058,0.0489314,-0.0138486,-0.0365452,-0.0163501,0.012103,0.0135861,-0.0031189,-0.0017312,-0.0304479,-0.0015361,-0.0002787,-0.0029245,0.0054968,-0.0002485,-0.0019719,0.0001899,0.0021055,0.0083635,-0.0121661,-0.0018858,-0.0081652,-0.0029522,0.0004492





Americas Compactibility:

SSA:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
SSA:Umbundu,-0.6262548,0.0632674,0.0217409,0.0160531,0.0014772, 0.0116576,-0.014512,0.0233182,-0.0330613,0.0168842,0.001965,-0.0002998,-0.0027279,0.0005366,-0.009351,0.0062516,-0.0056196,0.0030026,-0.0045817,0.0020634,0.000262,0.000779,0.0016762,-0.0001084,-0.0001797
SSA:Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku,0.05122,-0.310752,0.125204,0.094316,-0.116329,-0.014781,-0.303869,-0.370369,-0.019225,-0.015308,-0.011854,-0.000749,0.001338,0.0278,-0.007329,0.006895,0.005737,-0.009248,0.001508,-0.005378,0.002246,-0.002597,0.001849,0.00241,-0.000838
Amerindian:Surui,0.056911571,-0.32047214,0.117069,0.10695986,-0.11523029,-0.018526571,-0.329787,-0.39558786,-0.016391143,-0.020202286,0.0022501429,-0.0044745714,0.00059471429,0.037177857,-0.013863,0.0017994286,0.011101286,-0.00010857143,-0.00016157143,0.0017328571,-0.0037254286,0.014131714,-0.0076588571,-0.0081764286,-0.0098024286
Amerindian:Yukpa,0.054635,-0.31583,0.111251,0.099484,-0.111098,-0.020638,-0.304574,-0.363677,-0.01084,-0.015672,-0.01023,-0.006894,0.003717,0.024359,-0.010858,0.006895,0.012256,0.004307,-0.000754,0.00075,0.000499,0.008656,0.001356,0.0003 61,-0.006706
Amerindian:Mixe,0.0578222,-0.3207042,0.1230168,0.0943806,-0.1073434,-0.015562,-0.2782054,-0.3340476,-0.012026,-0.0146882,-0.0071126,-0.0065642,0.0044598,0.0202028,-0.0087946,0.004004,0.006102,0.0004564,-0.0004526,-0.0036016,0.0011732,0.0058612,0.0034018,-0.0017108,-0.0018442
Amerindian:North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805

Beowulf
03-11-2024, 11:01 PM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0131% / 0.01308011 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.5 Iberian_East
29.9 Central_Med
29.6 Northwest_Euro
3.4 Northeast_Euro
2.6 Northwest_Asian

Melkiirs
03-11-2024, 11:03 PM
No Iberian for either Dad or I so accurate:

Target: Milkaner_scaled(Ashkenazi/NW/NE-Euromix)
Distance: 2.6943% / 0.02694267 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.2 Northwest_Euro
22.2 Northeast_Euro
17.4 Levantine
16.0 Central_Med
13.2 Northwest_Asian

Target: MilkanerDad_scaled(Ashkenazi)
Distance: 2.4415% / 0.02441484 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.0 Levantine
32.2 Central_Med
16.8 Northwest_Asian
12.8 Northeast_Euro
3.2 Turkic

Dušan
03-11-2024, 11:04 PM
No Iberian for me :ohwell:



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.7167% / 0.02716700
53.6 Northeast_Euro
35.4 Central_Med
10.8 Northwest_Asian
0.2 Turkic



Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.7181% / 0.02718142 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.8 Northeast_Euro
35.2 Central_Med
11.0 Northwest_Asian

Eurafricanid
03-11-2024, 11:07 PM
No Iberian for either Dad or I so accurate:

Target: Milkaner_scaled(Ashkenazi/NW/NE-Euromix)
Distance: 2.6943% / 0.02694267 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.2 Northwest_Euro
22.2 Northeast_Euro
17.4 Levantine
16.0 Central_Med
13.2 Northwest_Asian

Target: MilkanerDad_scaled(Ashkenazi)
Distance: 2.4415% / 0.02441484 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.0 Levantine
32.2 Central_Med
16.8 Northwest_Asian
12.8 Northeast_Euro
3.2 Turkic

From all the tests I did, basically only Western Europeans (West of Germany) get Iberian, but we'll never know am I right?
This is a pretty good drift calculator, nonetheless.

celticdragongod
03-11-2024, 11:15 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01989305 Northwest_Euro
0.07651648 Iberian:North
0.07718732 Iberian:East
0.07955223 Iberian:Central
0.08376112 Iberian:West
0.08794410 Northeast_Euro
0.11962490 Central_Med
0.18098213 Northwest_Asian
0.20605965 Levantine
0.30421776 North_Africa
0.44137253 Turkic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8103% / 0.01810279
90.2 Northwest_Euro
6.6 Iberian:North
3.2 Iberian:West

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8103% / 0.01810279 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.2 Northwest_Euro
6.6 Iberian:North
3.2 Iberian:West

sacha
03-11-2024, 11:18 PM
Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 5.3242% / 0.05324185 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Levantine
31.2 Northwest_Asian
16.4 Central_Med

Target: Sacha_Dad_scaled
Distance: 4.7321% / 0.04732057 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 Levantine
23.4 Northwest_Asian
16.8 Central_Med

2Iberian4U

Eurafricanid
03-11-2024, 11:24 PM
Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 5.3242% / 0.05324185 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Levantine
31.2 Northwest_Asian
16.4 Central_Med

Target: Sacha_Dad_scaled
Distance: 4.7321% / 0.04732057 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 Levantine
23.4 Northwest_Asian
16.8 Central_Med

2Iberian4U

Interesting results...


Target: Syrian_Jew
Distance: 1.5380% / 0.01538044 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Levantine
35.0 Northwest_Asian
19.0 Central_Med



Target: Syrian
Distance: 1.2099% / 0.01209875 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.8 Levantine
34.8 Northwest_Asian
2.4 Turkic


Target: Alawite
Distance: 1.1065% / 0.01106480 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Levantine
45.4 Northwest_Asian
3.2 Central_Med


Nevermind...

Target: Syrian_Christian_Maronite
Distance: 4.9045% / 0.04904546 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.0 Levantine
27.4 Northwest_Asian
16.6 Central_Med

sacha
03-11-2024, 11:25 PM
Tried your German/West of Germany hypothesis with German averages vs French (and one Dutch lol) averages:

Germans



Target: German
Distance: 0.6144% / 0.00614391 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.4 Northwest_Euro
19.6 Central_Med
12.6 Northeast_Euro
1.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: German_Hamburg
Distance: 0.6806% / 0.00680602 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.0 Northwest_Euro
21.8 Northeast_Euro
7.6 Central_Med
5.2 Iberian
1.0 Levantine
0.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: German_Erlangen
Distance: 0.5793% / 0.00579259 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.2 Northwest_Euro
22.8 Northeast_Euro
21.8 Central_Med
3.2 Northwest_Asian

Target: German_East
Distance: 1.2696% / 0.01269569 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Northwest_Euro
38.4 Northeast_Euro
18.0 Central_Med
1.6 Northwest_Asian



French (& one Dutch)



Target: French_South
Distance: 1.0586% / 0.01058578 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.4 Iberian
2.4 Northeast_Euro
0.2 Turkic

Target: French_Seine-Maritime
Distance: 1.8263% / 0.01826330 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.0 Northwest_Euro
20.6 Central_Med
6.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Provence
Distance: 0.6651% / 0.00665074 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 Northwest_Euro
34.4 Central_Med
20.4 Iberian
7.2 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Pas-de-Calais
Distance: 1.4016% / 0.01401629 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.6 Northwest_Euro
41.4 Iberian
5.0 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 1.2171% / 0.01217059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Iberian
45.0 Northwest_Euro

Target: French_Occitanie
Distance: 0.7672% / 0.00767199 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.0 Iberian
29.0 Northwest_Euro

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 0.6152% / 0.00615161 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.0 Northwest_Euro
24.8 Central_Med
10.8 Iberian
1.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Corsica
Distance: 0.4726% / 0.00472610 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.8 Central_Med
11.0 Northwest_Euro
9.0 Northwest_Asian
1.4 Iberian
0.8 Northeast_Euro

Target: French_Chalosse
Distance: 1.1843% / 0.01184301 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.0 Iberian
2.4 Northwest_Euro
1.6 Northeast_Euro

Target: French_Brittany
Distance: 0.9390% / 0.00939030 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.6 Northwest_Euro
29.8 Iberian
1.6 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Bigorre
Distance: 0.9983% / 0.00998322 | ADC: 0.25x RC
95.8 Iberian
2.4 Central_Med
1.8 Northeast_Euro

Target: French_Bearn
Distance: 1.1602% / 0.01160239 | ADC: 0.25x RC
98.8 Iberian
1.2 Northwest_Euro

Target: French_Auvergne
Distance: 0.6185% / 0.00618474 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.4 Iberian
35.0 Northwest_Euro
20.6 Central_Med

Target: French_Alsace
Distance: 0.5994% / 0.00599396 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.0 Northwest_Euro
31.4 Central_Med
4.2 Northeast_Euro
2.8 Northwest_Asian
2.6 Iberian

Target: Dutch
Distance: 0.7498% / 0.00749756 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.4 Northwest_Euro
14.8 Iberian
1.2 Northwest_Asian
0.6 Levantine

Ahmet
03-11-2024, 11:29 PM
Target: Ahmet_scaled
Distance: 2.5264% / 0.02526384 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.6 Northwest_Asian
7.4 Turkic
5.0 Northeast_Euro

Nooooo %0 Iberian :(

Eurafricanid
03-11-2024, 11:29 PM
Tried your German/West of Germany hypothesis with German averages vs French (and one Dutch lol) averages:

Germans



Target: German
Distance: 0.6144% / 0.00614391 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.4 Northwest_Euro
19.6 Central_Med
12.6 Northeast_Euro
1.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: German_Hamburg
Distance: 0.6806% / 0.00680602 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.0 Northwest_Euro
21.8 Northeast_Euro
7.6 Central_Med
5.2 Iberian
1.0 Levantine
0.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: German_Erlangen
Distance: 0.5793% / 0.00579259 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.2 Northwest_Euro
22.8 Northeast_Euro
21.8 Central_Med
3.2 Northwest_Asian

Target: German_East
Distance: 1.2696% / 0.01269569 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Northwest_Euro
38.4 Northeast_Euro
18.0 Central_Med
1.6 Northwest_Asian



French (& one Dutch)



Target: French_South
Distance: 1.0586% / 0.01058578 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.4 Iberian
2.4 Northeast_Euro
0.2 Turkic

Target: French_Seine-Maritime
Distance: 1.8263% / 0.01826330 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.0 Northwest_Euro
20.6 Central_Med
6.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Provence
Distance: 0.6651% / 0.00665074 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 Northwest_Euro
34.4 Central_Med
20.4 Iberian
7.2 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Pas-de-Calais
Distance: 1.4016% / 0.01401629 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.6 Northwest_Euro
41.4 Iberian
5.0 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 1.2171% / 0.01217059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Iberian
45.0 Northwest_Euro

Target: French_Occitanie
Distance: 0.7672% / 0.00767199 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.0 Iberian
29.0 Northwest_Euro

Target: French_Nord
Distance: 0.6152% / 0.00615161 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.0 Northwest_Euro
24.8 Central_Med
10.8 Iberian
1.4 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Corsica
Distance: 0.4726% / 0.00472610 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.8 Central_Med
11.0 Northwest_Euro
9.0 Northwest_Asian
1.4 Iberian
0.8 Northeast_Euro

Target: French_Chalosse
Distance: 1.1843% / 0.01184301 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.0 Iberian
2.4 Northwest_Euro
1.6 Northeast_Euro

Target: French_Brittany
Distance: 0.9390% / 0.00939030 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.6 Northwest_Euro
29.8 Iberian
1.6 Northwest_Asian

Target: French_Bigorre
Distance: 0.9983% / 0.00998322 | ADC: 0.25x RC
95.8 Iberian
2.4 Central_Med
1.8 Northeast_Euro

Target: French_Bearn
Distance: 1.1602% / 0.01160239 | ADC: 0.25x RC
98.8 Iberian
1.2 Northwest_Euro

Target: French_Auvergne
Distance: 0.6185% / 0.00618474 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.4 Iberian
35.0 Northwest_Euro
20.6 Central_Med

Target: French_Alsace
Distance: 0.5994% / 0.00599396 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.0 Northwest_Euro
31.4 Central_Med
4.2 Northeast_Euro
2.8 Northwest_Asian
2.6 Iberian

Target: Dutch
Distance: 0.7498% / 0.00749756 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.4 Northwest_Euro
14.8 Iberian
1.2 Northwest_Asian
0.6 Levantine



Yeah, only these weird exceptions German_Hamburg and French_Seine-Maritime, for some reason.

Kess
03-11-2024, 11:34 PM
Target: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 2.8492% / 0.02849234
77.8 Northwest_Asian
13.4 Northeast_Euro
8.8 Turkic

Eurafricanid
03-11-2024, 11:35 PM
OMG, what a shock :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.6013% / 0.01601318 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.6 Iberian_East
10.0 Northwest_Asian
5.4 Central_Med

Melkiirs
03-11-2024, 11:36 PM
From all the tests I did, basically only Western Europeans (West of Germany) get Iberian, but we'll never know am I right?

Rothaer interestingly gets significant Iberian despite being East German:

Target: Germany&Netherlands:German:rothaer(East-German)
Distance: 1.4237% / 0.01423724 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Northwest_Euro
36.0 Northeast_Euro
18.6 Iberian

sacha
03-11-2024, 11:39 PM
Interesting results...


Target: Syrian_Jew
Distance: 1.5380% / 0.01538044 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Levantine
35.0 Northwest_Asian
19.0 Central_Med



Target: Syrian
Distance: 1.2099% / 0.01209875 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.8 Levantine
34.8 Northwest_Asian
2.4 Turkic


Target: Alawite
Distance: 1.1065% / 0.01106480 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.4 Levantine
45.4 Northwest_Asian
3.2 Central_Med

Fat ANF pull is probably taking me Central Med (as I usually get Sardinian). Since the Levantine average you're using S Levant, the Caucasian NWA is added to compenstate.


Distance to: Northwest_Asian
0.01262499 Armenian_Gesaria
0.01504710 Armenian_Ararat
0.01683085 Armenian_Syunik
0.01721773 Armenian_Erzurum
0.01917123 Georgian_Jew
0.01995340 Armenian_Aintab
0.02123439 Assyrian
0.02131111 Armenian_Urfa
0.02198930 Georgian_Meskheti
0.02370244 Armenian_Gurin

Distance to: Levantine
0.01022246 Jordanian
0.01232740 Palestinian
0.03072531 Syrian
0.03092675 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03174684 BedouinA
0.03492105 Karaite_Egypt
0.03635322 Alawite
0.03770647 Lebanese_Druze
0.03963043 Lebanese_Christian
0.04078973 Karaite_Iraq

Distance to: Sacha_scaled
0.06523385 Levantine
0.06956291 Northwest_Asian


If I swap out your S Levant Levantine with Samaritan:

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 3.4281% / 0.03428069 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.8 Samaritan
13.4 Central_Med
10.8 Northwest_Asian

However, on the Samaritan-replacement model, Syrian Jew takes another route as they are a mixture of multiple Jewish groups, including genuine North African and Iberian:

Target: Syrian_Jew
Distance: 0.9347% / 0.00934744 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6 Northwest_Asian
34.2 Samaritan
8.2 Iberian
7.0 Central_Med
6.0 North_Africa

Whilst Lebanese Christian goes another path. On the original model:

Target: Lebanese_Christian
Distance: 2.5910% / 0.02590965 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.2 Levantine
32.2 Northwest_Asian
8.6 Central_Med

On Samaritan-replacement model:

Target: Lebanese_Christian
Distance: 1.5776% / 0.01577635 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.4 Samaritan
30.6 Northwest_Asian
6.4 Central_Med
1.6 North_Africa

W/o NAfrican as well; I left it in when modelling Syrian Jews because there is some Sephardim North African component in there, but I believe in this case it's proxying 'Central Med':

Target: Lebanese_Christian
Distance: 1.6166% / 0.01616556 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.2 Samaritan
28.8 Northwest_Asian
7.0 Central_Med


Just to be fair though, here is Syrian_Jew without North_African; the fit loss is significantly higher:

Target: Syrian_Jew
Distance: 1.4272% / 0.01427232 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 Samaritan
35.4 Northwest_Asian
18.0 Iberian

Athalafuns
03-11-2024, 11:39 PM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 1.6493% / 0.01649263 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Iberian_East
15.0 Northwest_Euro
5.0 North_Africa
2.0 Northwest_Asian

Eurafricanid
03-11-2024, 11:47 PM
Fat ANF pull is probably taking me Central Med (as I usually get Sardinian). Since the Levantine average you're using S Levant, the Caucasian NWA is added to compenstate.
...



The Levantine component isn't that Southern, sure, it's more southern shifted, yes, but only so it's more of a distiinct component and doesn't overlap with the Northwest Asian component.

Target: Samaritan
Distance: 4.2232% / 0.04223242
83.4 Levantine
13.6 Northwest_Asian
3.0 Central_Med


BTW, did you see the update I did?

sacha
03-12-2024, 12:11 AM
The Levantine component isn't that Southern, sure, it's more southern shifted, yes, but only so it's more of a distiinct component and doesn't overlap with the Northwest Asian component.

...

BTW, did you see the update I did?
Didn't see the update, I will check it out in a bit.

It is pretty "Southern Levant." I understand wanting to avoid the overlap, but also:



Target: Samaritan
Distance: 4.2232% / 0.04223242
83.4 Levantine
13.6 Northwest_Asian
3.0 Central_Med


Distance to: Samaritan
0.05201370 Palestinian
0.05274927 Jordanian

I know I'm by no means the ones to be saying things about fit, but Samaritan is basically the 'purest' out there; even NWA and CMed as proxies can't fix the fit that much, because the 'Levantine' compo is hanging out with non-Levant admixed (Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian) people and Bedouins over people who are wholly Levantine.

Distance to: Levantine
0.01764475 Jordanian:Jordan214
0.01826686 Palestinian:HGDP00676
0.01848363 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.01952816 Jordanian:GS000014474
0.02169179 Jordanian:Jordan387
0.02197684 Jordanian:GS000016181
0.02440342 Palestinian:HGDP00689
0.02543559 Palestinian:HGDP00679
0.02578969 Jordanian:Jordan307
0.02670068 BedouinA:HGDP00626
0.02688651 Palestinian:HGDP00675
0.02704420 Palestinian:HGDP00677
0.02803064 Palestinian:HGDP00688
0.02820607 BedouinA:HGDP00619
0.02843348 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127
0.02906691 BedouinA:HGDP00615
0.03036328 Syrian:Ber5AL10
0.03045260 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121
0.03056595 BedouinA:HGDP00628
0.03070045 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.03107095 BedouinA:HGDP00614
0.03341004 Palestinian:HGDP00683
0.03404297 Karaite_Egypt:Karaite2
0.03474325 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21
0.03514971 Druze:GS000016135

It's fine if it is for the purposes of the calculator, it probably works better this way for most people, but because it's not a 'truly' Levantine component it's going to mostly be useful for finding drift.

sacha
03-12-2024, 12:14 AM
Yeah, only these weird exceptions German_Hamburg and French_Seine-Maritime, for some reason.

I think I might actually know what is going on with French_Seine-Maritime; there's some component that absolutely peaks in it (I don't remember which one), and is lower in everything else, because G25 is a bit stupid in some of its comparisons. Also, if the n=low, it can also just be G25's scattering creating fake drifts/oddities.

Eurafricanid
03-12-2024, 12:22 AM
Didn't see the update, I will check it out in a bit.

It is pretty "Southern Levant." I understand wanting to avoid the overlap, but also:



Distance to: Samaritan
0.05201370 Palestinian
0.05274927 Jordanian

I know I'm by no means the ones to be saying things about fit, but Samaritan is basically the 'purest' out there; even NWA and CMed as proxies can't fix the fit that much, because the 'Levantine' compo is hanging out with non-Levant admixed (Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian) people and Bedouins over people who are wholly Levantine.

Distance to: Levantine
0.01764475 Jordanian:Jordan214
0.01826686 Palestinian:HGDP00676
0.01848363 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.01952816 Jordanian:GS000014474
0.02169179 Jordanian:Jordan387
0.02197684 Jordanian:GS000016181
0.02440342 Palestinian:HGDP00689
0.02543559 Palestinian:HGDP00679
0.02578969 Jordanian:Jordan307
0.02670068 BedouinA:HGDP00626
0.02688651 Palestinian:HGDP00675
0.02704420 Palestinian:HGDP00677
0.02803064 Palestinian:HGDP00688
0.02820607 BedouinA:HGDP00619
0.02843348 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127
0.02906691 BedouinA:HGDP00615
0.03036328 Syrian:Ber5AL10
0.03045260 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121
0.03056595 BedouinA:HGDP00628
0.03070045 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.03107095 BedouinA:HGDP00614
0.03341004 Palestinian:HGDP00683
0.03404297 Karaite_Egypt:Karaite2
0.03474325 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21
0.03514971 Druze:GS000016135

It's fine if it is for the purposes of the calculator, it probably works better this way for most people, but because it's not a 'truly' Levantine component it's going to mostly be useful for finding drift.

Distance to: Samaritan
0.03111838 Lebanese_Christian
0.03435917 Karaite_Iraq
0.03773850 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03798543 Karaite_Egypt
0.03975096 Lebanese_Druze
0.03984462 Druze
0.04239272 Alawite
0.04434713 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04539820 Iraqi_Jew
0.04816684 Syrian_Jew


Distance to: Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG
0.03469641 Levantine
0.03619712 Samaritan


But I get what you're saying.

BTW I used all Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian, Samaritan to make the component.


And Bedouin_A isn't actually bedouin

Distance to: BedouinA
0.02228347 Palestinian
0.02780867 Jordanian
0.04937715 Egyptian
0.05041713 SaudiB
0.05102612 Yemenite_Amran
0.05585153 Syrian
0.05797127 Iraqi
0.05916661 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.05919299 EmiratiB
0.06075156 Lebanese_Muslim

Balboa
03-12-2024, 12:40 AM
Target: Balboa
Distance: 3.7407% / 0.03740676 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.0 Central_Med
3.0 Levantine

MBVC
03-12-2024, 12:42 AM
Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0197% / 0.01969136
46.8 North_Africa
27.3 Levantine
12.3 Central_Med
7.1 Northwest_Asian
5.5 Northeast_Euro
1.0 SSA

Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0216% / 0.02159025 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.2 North_Africa
36.4 Levantine
18.4 Iberian

sacha
03-12-2024, 12:48 AM
Distance to: Samaritan
0.03111838 Lebanese_Christian
0.03435917 Karaite_Iraq
0.03773850 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03798543 Karaite_Egypt
0.03975096 Lebanese_Druze
0.03984462 Druze
0.04239272 Alawite
0.04434713 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04539820 Iraqi_Jew
0.04816684 Syrian_Jew


Distance to: Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG
0.03469641 Levantine
0.03619712 Samaritan


But I get what you're saying.

Palestinian_Beit_Sahour is a 2-sample average of Palestinian Christians. Karaite_Egypt is Egyptian Jews. And Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG has just a tiny bit of SSA served up like a side dish, so it's not the best representation of people from that time.

Target: Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG:SFI-20_noUDG.SG
Distance: 1.3250% / 0.1325023 | R3P
63.4 Israel_MLBA
28.2 Turkey_EBA
8.4 Sudan_EarlyChristian

You could probably model it better than that, but even if you just let it run crazy on the modern sheet, you'll get direct SSA contributions, it's kind of established with this sample.


BTW I used all Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian, Samaritan to make the component.
And Bedouin_A isn't actually bedouin

Distance to: BedouinA
0.02228347 Palestinian
0.02780867 Jordanian
0.04937715 Egyptian
0.05041713 SaudiB
0.05102612 Yemenite_Amran
0.05585153 Syrian
0.05797127 Iraqi
0.05916661 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.05919299 EmiratiB
0.06075156 Lebanese_Muslim

Bedouin_A is Bedouins that are admixed with local populations. To quote a friend: "Bedouin_A is the mutt of the mutts," with extra SSA and Levantine compared to Bedouin_B.

As I said before, none of these averages are purely Levantine. It works for the purposes of your calculator, that is fine, but there's no need to argue on this specifically. Genuinely I just like to talk about this so I'm not really 'arguing' xd, but I don't like to leave stuff like this open-ended since I know enough about it to respond lol. And hey, free thread bumps

PaulieVanZant
03-12-2024, 01:00 AM
Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.4122% / 0.01412246
89.6 Northwest_Euro
5.0 Central_Med
3.8 Northeast_Euro
1.6 Iberian_North

Eurafricanid
03-12-2024, 01:14 AM
Palestinian_Beit_Sahour is a 2-sample average of Palestinian Christians. Karaite_Egypt is Egyptian Jews. And Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG has just a tiny bit of SSA served up like a side dish, so it's not the best representation of people from that time.

Target: Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG:SFI-20_noUDG.SG
Distance: 1.3250% / 0.1325023 | R3P
63.4 Israel_MLBA
28.2 Turkey_EBA
8.4 Sudan_EarlyChristian

You could probably model it better than that, but even if you just let it run crazy on the modern sheet, you'll get direct SSA contributions, it's kind of established with this sample.



Bedouin_A is Bedouins that are admixed with local populations. To quote a friend: "Bedouin_A is the mutt of the mutts," with extra SSA and Levantine compared to Bedouin_B.

As I said before, none of these averages are purely Levantine. It works for the purposes of your calculator, that is fine, but there's no need to argue on this specifically. Genuinely I just like to talk about this so I'm not really 'arguing' xd, but I don't like to leave stuff like this open-ended since I know enough about it to respond lol. And hey, free thread bumps

I already knew what these populations were, and Palestinian_Beit_Sahour is in fact inside the Levantine component too.

vader
03-12-2024, 01:15 AM
Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 2.4983% / 0.02498286 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.6 Iberian_West
3.2 Northeast_Euro
2.2 North_Africa
1.0 SSA

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 2.0926% / 0.02092643 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.6 Amerindian
43.6 Iberian_West
4.4 Levantine
3.4 SSA

Eurafricanid
03-12-2024, 01:47 AM
Palestinian_Beit_Sahour is a 2-sample average of Palestinian Christians. Karaite_Egypt is Egyptian Jews. And Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG has just a tiny bit of SSA served up like a side dish, so it's not the best representation of people from that time.

Target: Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG:SFI-20_noUDG.SG
Distance: 1.3250% / 0.1325023 | R3P
63.4 Israel_MLBA
28.2 Turkey_EBA
8.4 Sudan_EarlyChristian

You could probably model it better than that, but even if you just let it run crazy on the modern sheet, you'll get direct SSA contributions, it's kind of established with this sample.



Bedouin_A is Bedouins that are admixed with local populations. To quote a friend: "Bedouin_A is the mutt of the mutts," with extra SSA and Levantine compared to Bedouin_B.

As I said before, none of these averages are purely Levantine. It works for the purposes of your calculator, that is fine, but there's no need to argue on this specifically. Genuinely I just like to talk about this so I'm not really 'arguing' xd, but I don't like to leave stuff like this open-ended since I know enough about it to respond lol. And hey, free thread bumps

After some analysis, I wasn't understanding some paterns with the Levantine component and I've come to realize that the one I posted here had egyptian in it's composition and was the wrong sample for this thread, it was a component I made before with the same name, but with other reasons, here's the component I was supposed to have posted in this thread and I'm going to replace it in the OP, too.


Levantine,0.0670288,0.1390898,-0.051378,-0.0809279,-0.0124997,-0.0293704,-0.0038523,-0.004989,0.0133709,0.0039194,0.0071515,-0.00855,0.0175148,0.0036213,-0.0035828,0.0066214,-0.0041597,0.0002978,0.0005974,0.0001408,0.0002724, 0.0030709,-0.000215,0.0004568,0.0017227

MBVC
03-12-2024, 02:42 AM
With new component:

Target: MBVC_scaled
Distance: 0.0208% / 0.02078472 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.3 North_Africa
35.7 Levantine
9.9 Iberian
6.1 Northeast_Euro

RyoHazuki
03-12-2024, 03:01 AM
For Iberians:

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.1402% / 0.01140185 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.2 Northwest_Euro
33.8 Iberian_North

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.4284% / 0.03428380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.6 Northwest_Euro
25.4 Iberian_West

Distance to: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
0.03009088 Northwest_Euro
0.05586317 Iberian_North
0.05722496 Iberian_East
0.05950643 Iberian_Central
0.06531773 Iberian_West
0.09273112 Northeast_Euro
0.10115044 Central_Med
0.17184973 Northwest_Asian
0.19376297 Levantine
0.29301267 North_Africa
0.44643276 Turkic

Distance to: Ryo_scaled
0.04122056 Northwest_Euro
0.07043103 Iberian_North
0.07047397 Iberian_East
0.07213242 Iberian_Central
0.07520974 Iberian_West
0.10013972 Northeast_Euro
0.11179154 Central_Med
0.17347580 Northwest_Asian
0.19410325 Levantine
0.29204073 North_Africa
0.44151915 Turkic

RyoHazuki
03-12-2024, 03:10 AM
Genetically I'm highly Insular Celtic + Continental Celtic, so Iberian shifted admix is expected.

Mixdguy17
03-12-2024, 03:46 AM
I think there's something wrong with my coords


Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 1.9755% / 0.01975481
25.4 Central_Med
20.0 Northwest_Euro
14.2 Amerindian
12.0 North_Africa
10.8 Iberian_East
8.8 SSA
4.8 Northeast_Euro
4.0 Levantine

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 2.0677% / 0.02067657 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.8 Iberian
14.2 Amerindian
9.0 SSA
8.8 Northeast_Euro
7.2 Levantine
6.0 North_Africa

Eurafricanid
03-12-2024, 04:01 AM
I think there's something wrong with my coords


Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 1.9755% / 0.01975481
25.4 Central_Med
20.0 Northwest_Euro
14.2 Amerindian
12.0 North_Africa
10.8 Iberian_East
8.8 SSA
4.8 Northeast_Euro
4.0 Levantine

Yes, it can get wonky with LATAM because of the interactions of the components, it's splitting your Iberian (probably west) into a bunch of stuff. That's even more prevalent due to the lack of ADC - 0.25x that helps with some of those sepparation issues in non-mixed individuals.

Mixdguy17
03-12-2024, 04:05 AM
Yes, it can get wonky with LATAM because of the interactions of the components, it's splitting your Iberian (probably west) into a bunch of stuff. That's even more prevalent due to the lack of ADC - 0.25x that helps with some of those sepparation issues in non-mixed individuals.

Here's with the ADC. Its better like that for some reason

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 2.0677% / 0.02067657 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.8 Iberian_West
14.2 Amerindian
9.0 SSA
8.8 Northeast_Euro
7.2 Levantine
6.0 North_Africa

Eurafricanid
03-12-2024, 04:27 AM
Here's with the ADC. Its better like that for some reason

Target: Mixdguy17_scaled
Distance: 2.0677% / 0.02067657 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.8 Iberian_West
14.2 Amerindian
9.0 SSA
8.8 Northeast_Euro
7.2 Levantine
6.0 North_Africa

It's deffinitely better with that, wow!

Mine's ok without (the Iberian_Central is stealing 0.4% of the SSA):

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.2494% / 0.01249387
46.8 SSA
39.4 Iberian_Central
6.0 Central_Med
4.8 Northwest_Asian
2.6 Amerindian
0.2 Levantine
0.2 Northeast_Euro



And innacurate with (The Iberian_West is stealing 1% of the SSA):

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.5720% / 0.01571978 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 Iberian_West
46.2 SSA
4.6 Northwest_Asian
2.6 Amerindian

Mixdguy17
03-12-2024, 05:50 AM
It's deffinitely better with that, wow!

Mine's ok without (the Iberian_Central is stealing 0.4% of the SSA):

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.2494% / 0.01249387
46.8 SSA
39.4 Iberian_Central
6.0 Central_Med
4.8 Northwest_Asian
2.6 Amerindian
0.2 Levantine
0.2 Northeast_Euro



And innacurate with (The Iberian_West is stealing 1% of the SSA):

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 1.5720% / 0.01571978 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 Iberian_West
46.2 SSA
4.6 Northwest_Asian
2.6 Amerindian

Nice dude!

Are there any tools or calcs that I could use to determine my SSA and North african? My European and Amerindian tend to be exactly the same most of the time, but my SSA and North african just fluctuates so much between each calc. I would say I am probably around 10-12% SSA (I would bet 11%) but in calcs it goes from 10 to 6% wildly, and same goes for my North African, 23andMe gives me 5% but calcs can go from 6 to 15% at times, i just dont know which to believe.

Mopi The Dire Wolf
03-12-2024, 06:36 AM
Target: Mopi_scaled
Distance: 1.5734% / 0.01573377
42.2 Northwest_Euro
20.0 Iberian_Central
16.8 Iberian_North
15.4 Central_Med
3.2 Northwest_Asian
1.4 North_Africa
1.0 Turkic


Distance to: Mopi_scaled
0.03235610 Iberian_East
0.03478090 Iberian_Central
0.03671224 Iberian_North
0.03869500 Iberian_West
0.05897443 Northwest_Euro
0.07289477 Central_Med
0.11876862 Northeast_Euro
0.14895938 Northwest_Asian
0.16883448 Levantine
0.27123305 North_Africa
0.43621589 Turkic

Gallop
03-12-2024, 08:41 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.8705% / 0.01870533
94.2 Iberian_Central
2.0 Northwest_Euro
1.2 Northeast_Euro
1.2 Northwest_Asian
1.0 North_Africa
0.4 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.2464% / 0.02246402
65.0 Iberian_Central
17.4 Central_Med
8.8 Northeast_Euro
6.8 Iberian_North
2.0 North_Africa

Target: brother_scaled
Distance: 1.8893% / 0.01889332
69.0 Iberian_Central
21.0 Central_Med
4.4 Northeast_Euro
3.6 Iberian_North
2.0 North_Africa

Solitude
03-12-2024, 09:10 AM
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 1.8314% / 0.01831416
42.3 Iberian_West
23.7 SSA
12.3 Northwest_Euro
10.2 Central_Med
9.4 Amerindian
2.1 North_Africa

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.2025% / 0.02202544 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.5 Iberian_West
23.7 SSA
9.4 Amerindian
7.4 Northwest_Euro

parece que com dist realmente fica muito melhor

Grace O'Malley
03-12-2024, 09:46 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.2505% / 0.02250537
92.6 Northwest_Euro
7.4 Iberian_North

tk'es
03-12-2024, 09:59 AM
Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.6222% / 0.06622231 | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.2 Northwest_Asian
15.4 Northwest_Euro
7.2 Turkic
5.2 Northeast_Euro


Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 6.6222% / 0.06622231
72.2 Northwest_Asian
15.4 Northwest_Euro
7.2 Turkic
5.2 Northeast_Euro

Russki
03-12-2024, 11:58 AM
Yeah, only these weird exceptions German_Hamburg and French_Seine-Maritime, for some reason.


French_Seine-Maritime is anti-SSA coded as I explained here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?375412-Decoding-values-of-G25-coordinates


1 positive: Atlantic-Baltic
1 negative: Sub-Saharan African

Iberian coordinates have a lower first value than Central_Med (except Iberian_North which is Basque-shifted) making it a worse mathematical fit for "anti-SSA" French_Seine-Maritime.

Iberian_East,0.1184852,0.1466671,0.0411899,0.00006 46,0.0441266,-0.0008648,-0.0009887,0.0017645,0.0225256,0.0319384,-0.0031286,0.0079933,-0.0149823,-0.011601,0.0082183,0.0009705,-0.0014005,0.0002809,-0.001533,-0.0017668,0.0035137,-0.000132,-0.002082,-0.0028061,0.0000488
Iberian_Central,0.1156324,0.1462228,0.0429879,-0.0000613,0.04587,-0.0026635,-0.001657,0.0019672,0.0248004,0.033856,-0.0041126,0.0085446,-0.0156938,-0.0139212,0.010809,0.0007316,-0.0025904,-0.0009858,-0.0033166,-0.001854,0.0035471,-0.0005144,-0.002592,-0.0042812,-0.000677
Iberian_West,0.106563,0.145623,0.03674,-0.003236,0.042655,-0.003776,-0.004222,0.002452,0.025403,0.030146,-0.001154,0.006941,-0.012896,-0.01132,0.011758,-0.000897,-0.002824,-0.001215,-0.00578,-0.000251,0.001757,-0.003251,0.00042,-0.001413,0.000817
Central_Med,0.1202747,0.1556303,0.0206336,-0.031555,0.0401615,-0.0137039,-0.0022873,0.0001032,0.0209758,0.0447941,-0.0003238,0.0100587,-0.0177902,-0.007928,-0.0067839,-0.0014709,0.0058663,0.0000637,0.0024883,-0.0066234,-0.0014935,0.0001843,-0.0044657,-0.0065243,-0.0004729
French_Seine-Maritime,0.1360185,0.1370965,0.0452545,0.0295545,0 .039084,0.0167335,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.0074935,-0.0075815,-0.0016515,0.0142505,0.0035135,-0.0079535,-0.002344,0.0009425,-0.0050025,0.0039305,0.0055025,0.000863,0.0042775,-0.0044905
Northwest_Euro,0.1332519,0.1296292,0.0667422,0.053 4416,0.0403405,0.0201096,0.005305,0.0069933,0.0035 97,-0.005397,-0.004077,0.0036383,-0.0072955,-0.0079836,0.0179506,0.0042366,-0.0069207,0.001529,0.0029828,0.0012776,0.0049877,0 .0026024,0.0037692,0.0151958,0.0014432


The opposite is true for German_Hamburg where the first value is significantly lower than that of Northwest_Euro and to produce a better mathematical fit it needs coordinates where the first value is significantly lower without harboring too much Levantine shift (4 negative) which Central_Med would provide.


4 positive: Mesolithic Eurasian
4 negative: East Med
Northwest_Euro,0.1332519,0.1296292,0.0667422,0.053 4416,0.0403405,0.0201096,0.005305,0.0069933,0.0035 97,-0.005397,-0.004077,0.0036383,-0.0072955,-0.0079836,0.0179506,0.0042366,-0.0069207,0.001529,0.0029828,0.0012776,0.0049877,0 .0026024,0.0037692,0.0151958,0.0014432
German_Hamburg,0.1282853,0.1339901,0.0634672,0.048 526,0.0400617,0.0203755,0.0075618,0.0091083,0.0029 597,-0.0035589,-0.0038782,8.82e-05,-0.0025097,0.0007529,0.0094365,0.0032679,-0.0045558,0.0025562,0.0039926,0.0006842,0.0017395, 0.0015566,0.0027185,0.0073504,-0.0010354
Iberian_East,0.1184852,0.1466671,0.0411899,0.00006 46,0.0441266,-0.0008648,-0.0009887,0.0017645,0.0225256,0.0319384,-0.0031286,0.0079933,-0.0149823,-0.011601,0.0082183,0.0009705,-0.0014005,0.0002809,-0.001533,-0.0017668,0.0035137,-0.000132,-0.002082,-0.0028061,0.0000488
Iberian_Central,0.1156324,0.1462228,0.0429879,-0.0000613,0.04587,-0.0026635,-0.001657,0.0019672,0.0248004,0.033856,-0.0041126,0.0085446,-0.0156938,-0.0139212,0.010809,0.0007316,-0.0025904,-0.0009858,-0.0033166,-0.001854,0.0035471,-0.0005144,-0.002592,-0.0042812,-0.000677
Iberian_West,0.106563,0.145623,0.03674,-0.003236,0.042655,-0.003776,-0.004222,0.002452,0.025403,0.030146,-0.001154,0.006941,-0.012896,-0.01132,0.011758,-0.000897,-0.002824,-0.001215,-0.00578,-0.000251,0.001757,-0.003251,0.00042,-0.001413,0.000817
Central_Med,0.1202747,0.1556303,0.0206336,-0.031555,0.0401615,-0.0137039,-0.0022873,0.0001032,0.0209758,0.0447941,-0.0003238,0.0100587,-0.0177902,-0.007928,-0.0067839,-0.0014709,0.0058663,0.0000637,0.0024883,-0.0066234,-0.0014935,0.0001843,-0.0044657,-0.0065243,-0.0004729

alnortedelsur
03-12-2024, 02:53 PM
Aggregate - Yes

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.0746% / 0.02074580
66.2 Iberian_Central
12.0 Northwest_Asian
6.6 Amerindian
6.6 North_Africa
3.6 SSA
3.0 Northeast_Euro
2.0 Iberian_North

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.1611% / 0.02161081 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.8 Iberian_West
9.0 Northwest_Asian
6.6 Amerindian
4.0 SSA
1.6 North_Africa

Aggregate - No



Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.0746% / 0.02074580
66.2 Iberian_Central
12.0 Northwest_Asian
6.6 North_Africa
6.6 Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
3.6 SSA:Gambian
3.0 Northeast_Euro
2.0 Iberian_North

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.1602% / 0.02160166 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.8 Iberian_West
8.8 Northwest_Asian
6.6 Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
2.0 North_Africa
2.0 SSA:Umbundu
1.8 SSA:Gambian





Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06690068 Iberian_West
0.07517537 Iberian_Central
0.07634186 Iberian_East
0.08467539 Iberian_North
0.09075841 Central_Med
0.11550575 Northwest_Euro
0.13409561 Northwest_Asian
0.13910748 Levantine
0.15518559 Northeast_Euro
0.21995897 North_Africa
0.40707112 Turkic
0.55043046 Amerindian:North
0.62255635 Amerindian:Mixe
0.64661427 Amerindian:Yukpa
0.64837364 Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
0.68175321 Amerindian:Surui
0.68512027 SSA:Gambian
0.70365938 SSA:Umbundu
0.71170826 SSA:Yoruba

JayH
03-12-2024, 02:56 PM
This is the same person: me


23andMe V3 file:
Distance: 1.4701% / 0.01470099 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.4 Iberian_East
45.0 Northwest_Euro
4.8 Northeast_Euro
1.8 Northwest_Asian

LivingDNA file:
Distance: 2.0270% / 0.02027006 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.0 Northwest_Euro
25.0 Central_Med
6.8 Iberian_East
4.0 Northeast_Euro
1.2 Northwest_Asian


My father:
Distance: 2.1448% / 0.02144844 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.8 Northwest_Euro
35.0 Iberian_North
4.2 Northwest_Asian


Mymother (not tested, calculated values:)
Distance: 3.3074% / 0.03307360 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.6 Northwest_Euro
26.8 Central_Med
12.2 Northeast_Euro
9.2 Iberian_West
3.2 Northwest_Asian

BrandenburgGaming
03-12-2024, 06:04 PM
Target: BrandenburgGaming
Distance: 1.4450% / 0.01445040 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.4 Northwest_Euro
24.4 Northeast_Euro
14.8 Central_Med
1.4 Iberian

Target: BrandenburgGaming
Distance: 1.4450% / 0.01445044 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.2 Northwest_Euro
24.4 Northeast_Euro
14.6 Central_Med
1.8 Iberian:East

JerryS.
03-13-2024, 10:34 PM
plenty of Iberian, but what is northwest Asian?


Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7870% / 0.01786974
78.8 Northwest_Euro
11.0 Iberian:West
7.0 Central_Med
3.2 Northwest_Asian

Without Northwest Asian


Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.8211% / 0.01821084
80.0 Northwest_Euro
10.8 Central_Med
7.8 Iberian:West
1.4 Levantine

noricum
03-16-2024, 06:03 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2844% / 0.02284420 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.8 Northeast_Euro
28.6 Central_Med
23.0 Northwest_Euro
1.6 Northwest_Asian

Eurafricanid
03-16-2024, 04:42 PM
plenty of Iberian, but what is northwest Asian?


Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7870% / 0.01786974
78.8 Northwest_Euro
11.0 Iberian:West
7.0 Central_Med
3.2 Northwest_Asian

Without Northwest Asian


Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.8211% / 0.01821084
80.0 Northwest_Euro
10.8 Central_Med
7.8 Iberian:West
1.4 Levantine

The Nortwest Asian is Northwest Asian :thumb001:


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Distance to:
Northwest_Asian


0.01262499
Armenian_Gesaria


0.01504710
Armenian_Ararat


0.01683085
Armenian_Syunik


0.01721773
Armenian_Erzurum


0.01917123
Georgian_Jew


0.01995340
Armenian_Aintab


0.02123439
Assyrian


0.02131111
Armenian_Urfa


0.02198930
Georgian_Meskheti


0.02370244
Armenian_Gurin


</tbody>

Eurafricanid
03-16-2024, 04:46 PM
Nice dude!

Are there any tools or calcs that I could use to determine my SSA and North african? My European and Amerindian tend to be exactly the same most of the time, but my SSA and North african just fluctuates so much between each calc. I would say I am probably around 10-12% SSA (I would bet 11%) but in calcs it goes from 10 to 6% wildly, and same goes for my North African, 23andMe gives me 5% but calcs can go from 6 to 15% at times, i just dont know which to believe.

You don't have to believe in anything, just use all the data you have in the SSA department and in the Iberian populations and SSA populations that you've inherited to infer the optimal percentage, having the parts separated also helps, a lot, but even before I've had them separated, I already knew it was 47-47.2% from the data I'd gathered.

cass
03-16-2024, 05:41 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.0290% / 0.01029020 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Northeast_Euro
37.4 Northwest_Euro
8.6 Central_Med
3.2 Iberian
1.2 Northwest_Asian


Target: PolishL_Kuyavia1
Distance: 1.9506% / 0.01950645 | ADC: 0.25x
62.6 Northeast_Euro
16.2 Northwest_Euro
10.6 Central_Med
10.6 Iberian


It is interesting to what extent it is a fragment of an element brought by the Germans and to what extent it is a remnant of the Globular Amphora.

Rafael Passoni
03-16-2024, 07:02 PM
Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 2.5630% / 0.02563042 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Central_Med
9.2 Northeast_Euro
9.2 Northwest_Asian
2.0 Northwest_Euro