True reason of balto-slavic drift

[tita]

Balto-slavic drift can fully be removed with Baltic_LVA_BA. But Baltic_LVA_Meso can't. Between today and the 2 samples there is respectively 3000y and 6000y, bronze age VS mesolithic. Do you think 4000y really are causing the BSD ? Or is there any hidden population we don't know ?

[tipirneni]

Balto-slavic drift can fully be removed with Baltic_LVA_BA. But Baltic_LVA_Meso can't. Between today and the 2 samples there is respectively 3000y and 6000y, bronze age VS mesolithic. Do you think 4000y really are causing the BSD ? Or is there any hidden population we don't know ?

U5b2 coming from Spain and U4 and r1b from Siberia for the mesolithic population. Probably first mixing with some Siberian population
https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/CulturesKunda.htm

UzOO77 5500–5000 BCE EHG Yuzhnyy Oleni Ostrov,Karelia, RussiaF 530434 0.733 R1b
Popovo2 7500–5000 BCE EHG Popovo, Archangelsk,RussiaM 68042 0.064 U4d n/a
MotalaAA 5722–5564 calBCE SHG Kanaljorden, Motala,SwedenF 56508 0.055 U5a2d
Donkalnis4 6000–5740 calBCE BalticMesolithicDonkalnis, Lithuania M 22005 0.021 U5b2c1 I
Spiginas4 6440–6230 calBCE BalticMesolithicSpiginas, Lithuania F 663885 1.122 U4a2

[tita]

U5b2 coming from Spain and U4 and r1b from Siberia for the mesolithic population. Probably first mixing with some Siberian population
https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/CulturesKunda.htm

UzOO77 5500–5000 BCE EHG Yuzhnyy Oleni Ostrov,Karelia, RussiaF 530434 0.733 R1b
Popovo2 7500–5000 BCE EHG Popovo, Archangelsk,RussiaM 68042 0.064 U4d n/a
MotalaAA 5722–5564 calBCE SHG Kanaljorden, Motala,SwedenF 56508 0.055 U5a2d
Donkalnis4 6000–5740 calBCE BalticMesolithicDonkalnis, Lithuania M 22005 0.021 U5b2c1 I
Spiginas4 6440–6230 calBCE BalticMesolithicSpiginas, Lithuania F 663885 1.122 U4a2

Do you mean i can remove baltic drift with those populations

[tipirneni]

Do you mean i can remove baltic drift with those populations

Maybe adding still some unknown ancient Siberian population would remove the Baltic drift. You can see the new mtdnas from east mixing into the older U5 euro clades creating the first Baltic Meso populations. If you can find the right Siberian sample of that migration you might have luck

[Nurzat]

what is the Balto-Slavic drift? from what did it deviate? aren't Balts just WHG + EHG + PIE + some EEF?

[tita]

what is the Balto-Slavic drift? from what did it deviate? aren't Balts just WHG + EHG + PIE + some EEF?

On ancient calculators, balto-slavic people get a bigger distance than others europeans, that is the drift. I think the drift disappears from bronze age calculator