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rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 09:46 AM
I don't know but these days in LGBTQ spaces. You meet these specific bisexual women. Who never have dated a woman. Not only that but they only flirt with mens in the server.

You wonder if they're actually attracted to women. Or they're trying to be bisexual because they want to be cool. Since being straight these days is basic.

Scarface F
03-13-2024, 11:07 AM
Yes. Many women act bi because it's trendy and it makes some men horny.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 11:09 AM
Yes. Many women act bi because it's trandy and it makes some men horny.

Women I am talking about are far leftist and hate mens

Scarface F
03-13-2024, 11:11 AM
Women I am talking about are far leftist and hate mens

I know women who don't care about politics and who are actually interested in men who acted lesbians to attract their attention. It's a result of degeneracy promoted in pop industry as something "cool"

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 11:17 AM
I know women who don't care about politics and who are actually interested in men who acted lesbians to attract their attention. It's a result of degeneracy promoted in pop industry as something "cool"

I thought that you had no problem with LGBTQ?

Some people are actually LGBTQ. But I agree that these days it is portrayed as cool to be LGBTQ while being straight is seen as basic

Scarface F
03-13-2024, 11:23 AM
I thought that you had no problem with LGBTQ?

Some people are actually LGBTQ. But I agree that these days it is portrayed as cool to be LGBTQ while being straight is seen as basic

I have gay neighbours, they are ok guys and keep low profile. Activist gays I dislike.

Katarzyna
03-13-2024, 11:38 AM
I am fine with being attracted to the same gender but what annoys me most are those “gender-fluid” and “non-binary” people. Even fcking animals know their gender so what’s wrong with degenerate humans.
This year in Eurovision there are two non-binary contestants. Even Wikipedia supports their mental illness and changed the “gender” accordingly. Sick world

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 11:41 AM
I am fine with being attracted to the same gender but what annoys me most are those “gender-fluid” and “non-binary” people. Even fcking animals know their gender so what’s wrong with degenerate humans.
This year in Eurovision there are two non-binary contestants. Even Wikipedia supports their mental illness and changed the “gender” accordingly. Sick world

Some people seriously don't identify as men or women.

It is like cis gender men identifying as women

Demi Lovato is also gender non binary now. They used to identify as women before

Let's say you are assigned women at birth but you don't feel like a woman but you don't feel like a dude either

Then what ae you?
That's gender non binary

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 12:44 PM
Hollywood =/= real world. BTW, like I said in a thread some days ago, nowadays I find Bollywood to be more oversexed and even kind of homoerotic than Hollywood. What's with all the topless musclebound actors you see in the films now? They were much rarer even twenty years ago.

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 12:47 PM
Yes. Many women act bi because it's trendy and it makes some men horny.

This double standard still persists even today. Not just in the world of porn but even on mainstream TV two women getting it on is usually (1) portrayed more explicitly and (2) seen as more normal and acceptable than two men getting it on.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:00 PM
Women I am talking about are far leftist and hate mens


Hollywood =/= real world. BTW, like I said in a thread some days ago, nowadays I find Bollywood to be more oversexed and even kind of homoerotic than Hollywood. What's with all the topless musclebound actors you see in the films now? They were much rarer even twenty years ago.

Because elite think that sexualized women are problematic. So theh don't

While sexy woman sell tickets so other movies industries do it

Hollywood is just propogenda machine for far leftist.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:02 PM
Homoerotic lol bros being bros

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 01:02 PM
Because elite think that sexualized women are problematic. So theh don't

While sexy woman sell tickets so other movies industries do it

I'm not with you? There are even Bollywood films where the actors' shirts rip off for no apparent reason except to show off their bodies. Indian actors in the 90's were much more, well, normal-looking compared to now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Ph1GTZxwE&pp=ygUeaHJpdGhpayByb3NoYW4gdGFrZXMgc2hpcnQgb2Zm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wjKqUQYl8M

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:04 PM
I'm not with you? There are even Bollywood films where the actors' shirts rip off for no apparent reason except to show off their bodies. Indian actors in the 90's were much more, well, normal-looking compared to now.
I mean people who are attracted to men probably like it?

Who know
I was just explaining you why they are like that

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 01:14 PM
I mean people who are attracted to men probably like it?

Who know
I was just explaining you why they are like that

Either way, the gym bunny revolution in Bollywood is pretty striking. Just compare Hrithik Roshan himself to his family:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Mahurat_of_Koi..._Mil_Gaya.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Rakesh_Roshan.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Rajesh_Roshan.jpg

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:15 PM
Either way, the gym bunny revolution in Bollywood is pretty striking. Just compare Hrithik Roshan himself to his family:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Mahurat_of_Koi..._Mil_Gaya.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Rakesh_Roshan.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Rajesh_Roshan.jpg

I mean they are doing more action movies

That's how you explain it . Before it. It was comedy and romance

Most popular movies are action now. Before it was comedy and romance.


That's why there are less female character too. Because people don't like too many women in action movies

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 01:17 PM
I mean they are doing more action movies

That's how you explain it . Before it. It was comedy and romance

Most popular movies are action now. Before it was comedy and romance.


That's why there are less female character too. Because people don't like too many women in action movies

Actors don't have to take their shirts off in action films though, at least not to the extent they nowadays do in Bollywood.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:19 PM
Actors don't have to take their shirts off in action films though, at least not to the extent they nowadays do in Bollywood.

How do you show mc as strong?

You do that by showing muscles

Everyone in action genre do it. Action anime video games do it too

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 01:21 PM
How do you show mc as strong?

You do that by showing muscles

Everyone in action genre do it. Action anime video games do it too

I don't recall Christopher Reeve or Michael Keaton stripping off that often when playing Superman or Batman...

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:26 PM
I don't watch hollywood movies because of Wokeism. So I won't comment

Nurzat
03-13-2024, 01:37 PM
it's definitely a social trend as well, and in the US it seems to be huge among teenagers, so it's peer pressure at its peak there in that age range.

it also has a lot of mainstream social and political validation and encouragement from government and business. there is much incentive to become one.

then among adults in the artistic world it's also a big thing and there is increased exposure if you are or become one.

so it's definitely not only the ones that naturally feel this way, but also a lot of people who pick it up because it's a trend, it's cool, it's rewarded by their reference group.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:49 PM
it's definitely a social trend as well, and in the US it seems to be huge among teenagers, so it's peer pressure at its peak there in that age range.

it also has a lot of mainstream social and political validation and encouragement from government and business. there is much incentive to become one.

then among adults in the artistic world it's also a big thing and there is increased exposure if you are or become one.

so it's definitely not only the ones that naturally feel this way, but also a lot of people who pick it up because it's a trend, it's cool, it's rewarded by their reference group.

Yes lil nas used to be straight. But after blowing up
He ended up coming out as gay.

Now he is making hip hop genre more LGBTQ friendly. Since hip hop is very homophobic genre.


It is all about being cool

I expect more gay hip hop artist if being gay is cool

Since cool rule

Kazimiera
03-13-2024, 01:52 PM
I don't know but these days in LGBTQ spaces. You meet these specific bisexual women. Who never have dated a woman. Not only that but they only flirt with mens in the server.

You wonder if they're actually attracted to women. Or they're trying to be bisexual because they want to be cool. Since being straight these days is basic.

I agree with you.

I don't have experience regarding online spaces, but I get the feeling that you have to assign yourself a label to be cool. Anything and everything to be 'different'. I also get the feeling that these individuals (who by now have turned into battalions of 'individuals') have hijacked the LGBTQ+ scene and are taking away from people who are genuinely like this.

Almost every normal male likes the idea of seeing two women together. Women know this, and they also know they will get more attention if they claim to be bisexual.

I consider myself 100% straight but if a woman shows an interest in having a fun evening with me, I will take advantage of the opportunity. I would never go so far as to call myself bisexual because I am not romantically attracted to women and wouldn't want to date one. Women can be crazy. I know this. I am one myself.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 01:57 PM
I agree with you.

I don't have experience regarding online spaces, but I get the feeling that you have to assign yourself a label to be cool. Anything and everything to be 'different'. I also get the feeling that these individuals (who by now have turned into battalions of 'individuals') have hijacked the LGBTQ+ scene and are taking away from people who are genuinely like this.

Almost every normal male likes the idea of seeing two women together. Women know this, and they also know they will get more attention if they claim to be bisexual.

I consider myself 100% straight but if a woman shows an interest in having a fun evening with me, I will take advantage of the opportunity. I would never go so far as to call myself bisexual because I am not romantically attracted to women and wouldn't want to date one. Women can be crazy. I know this. I am one myself.

You can be only attracted to men romantically but find women sexually attractive

Laredo
03-13-2024, 02:03 PM
Yes. Many women act bi because it's trendy and it makes some men horny.

I never understood this behavior and I probaby will never will. Let's just switch It around.

Will you get turn on by seeing two guys who seem very attractive to you If they started kissing passionately?

xD just curious though.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 02:20 PM
I never understood this behavior and I probaby will never will. Let's just switch It around.

Will you get turn on by seeing two guys who seem very attractive to you If they started kissing passionately?

xD just curious though.

You don't have heard about fujoshi

Women in anime community. Who like seeing gay men together. So some women are in it

Laredo
03-13-2024, 02:39 PM
You don't have heard about fujoshi

Women in anime community. Who like seeing gay men together. So some women are in it

I think many do get turn on but just don't want to admit It women by nature (heterosexual women) will find attractive men attractive regardless of race so If they find a guy cute I'm sure they will get turn on.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-13-2024, 02:43 PM
I don't perceive that people are identifying with the LGBT movement in order to be seen as "cool". Who exactly thinks that someone's sexual orientation can be "cool"? In Portugal this brings more stigma than any form of popularity and I believe it's the same in other countries, no matter how inclusive or open to these issues some countries may be. It's an issue that polarizes public opinion and the topic has been so worn down (not to say gotten out of hand) that I think we're going through a turning point, in which this type of LGBT movements are progressively and increasingly being seen in a negative light. If you live in a pink bubble like rajputprincess, surrounded by people who are unconventional, quasi belonging to a sub-culture, then you might be seen as "cool" for identifying with one of the 72 made up genders or coming out as gay but, outside the bubble, you will have a reality check.

I also don't agree with the idea that all men like the concept of seeing two women together because I am a man and it doesn't thrill me personally. I wouldn't be turned on by a woman telling me she's bisexual, it might even be a red flag, but that's because of my "boring" way of being in life and perhaps because I personally always leaned towards the conventional over the deviant. I would also add that there's no reason for anyone to tell me they're bisexual or lesbian either, because as far as I can remember I've never seen myself in any real life scenario where I'd ask a woman what her sexual orientation is, and so if she were to tell me it would be unsolicited, which is strange in itself. I try to imagine myself in such a scenario and the first thought I have is that it will likely be one of those individuals that their whole life is centered around their sexual orientation, which for some reason they need to tell everyone about.

Scarface F
03-13-2024, 02:53 PM
it's definitely a social trend as well, and in the US it seems to be huge among teenagers, so it's peer pressure at its peak there in that age range.

it also has a lot of mainstream social and political validation and encouragement from government and business. there is much incentive to become one.

then among adults in the artistic world it's also a big thing and there is increased exposure if you are or become one.

so it's definitely not only the ones that naturally feel this way, but also a lot of people who pick it up because it's a trend, it's cool, it's rewarded by their reference group.

Guy from my island who studies on Art Academy to become an actor came out as gay and bring a guy to his parents house. They were shocked.

I know for certain he showed no homo tendencies before, as he liked me and was a normal boy. Most people think, he was brainwashed by woke climate in such art schools and that becoming gay can tremendously help his career.

Scarface F
03-13-2024, 02:56 PM
I never understood this behavior and I probaby will never will. Let's just switch It around.

Will you get turn on by seeing two guys who seem very attractive to you If they started kissing passionately?

xD just curious though.

No.

Dušan
03-13-2024, 03:00 PM
Guy from my island who studies on Art Academy to become an actor came out as gay and bring a guy to his parents house. They were shocked.

I know for certain he showed no homo tendencies before, as he liked me and was a normal boy. Most people think, he was brainwashed by woke climate in such art schools and that becoming gay can tremendously help his career.

Probija svoj put (i dupe) do karijere :biggrin:

Laredo
03-13-2024, 03:02 PM
@Rajputprincess at what age did you found out you were lesbian? or started having girl crushes?

Mortimer
03-13-2024, 03:03 PM
I think it is definitely possible I think being lgbtq is in some circles like feichy mentioned for example arts like a credential and helps your career

Kazimiera
03-13-2024, 03:05 PM
You can be only attracted to men romantically but find women sexually attractive

Not always. I mean, I don't walk in the street, see a woman and think, "I'd love a piece of that pussy". I do think that of men, though. It's very circumstantial. The situation has to be 100% right for me to wander into those waters.


I try to imagine myself in such a scenario and the first thought I have is that it will likely be one of those individuals that their whole life is centered around their sexual orientation, which for some reason they need to tell everyone about.

Those types are like vegans who feel they have to tell everyone about their dietary habits, unsolicited. Their whole life circulates around their sexual orientation/dietary habits/drugs.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:06 PM
I don't perceive that people are identifying with the LGBT movement in order to be seen as "cool". Who exactly thinks that someone's sexual orientation can be "cool"? In Portugal this brings more stigma than any form of popularity and I believe it's the same in other countries, no matter how inclusive or open to these issues some countries may be. It's an issue that polarizes public opinion and the topic has been so worn down (not to say gotten out of hand) that I think we're going through a turning point, in which this type of LGBT movements are progressively and increasingly being seen in a negative light. If you live in a pink bubble like rajputprincess, surrounded by people who are unconventional, quasi belonging to a sub-culture, then you might be seen as "cool" for identifying with one of the 72 made up genders or coming out as gay but, outside the bubble, you will have a reality check.

I also don't agree with the idea that all men like the concept of seeing two women together because I am a man and it doesn't thrill me personally. I wouldn't be turned on by a woman telling me she's bisexual, it might even be a red flag, but that's because of my "boring" way of being in life and perhaps because I personally always leaned towards the conventional over the deviant. I would also add that there's no reason for anyone to tell me they're bisexual or lesbian either, because as far as I can remember I've never seen myself in any real life scenario where I'd ask a woman what her sexual orientation is, and so if she were to tell me it would be unsolicited, which is strange in itself. I try to imagine myself in such a scenario and the first thought I have is that it will likely be one of those individuals that their whole life is centered around their sexual orientation, which for some reason they need to tell everyone about.

People do crimes to be cool

Seriously commit crimes because want to be seen as cool thug.

Kazimiera
03-13-2024, 03:07 PM
I never understood this behavior and I probaby will never will. Let's just switch It around.

Will you get turn on by seeing two guys who seem very attractive to you If they started kissing passionately?

xD just curious though.

Yes. I'm weird that way.

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 03:07 PM
Those types are like vegans who feel they have to tell everyone about their dietary habits, unsolicited. Their whole life circulates around their sexual orientation/dietary habits/drugs.

Sort of like Peter Tatchell.

Kazimiera
03-13-2024, 03:09 PM
Sort of like Peter Tatchell.

I don't know who Peter Tatchell is, but I will take your word for it.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:10 PM
Guy from my island who studies on Art Academy to become an actor came out as gay and bring a guy to his parents house. They were shocked.

I know for certain he showed no homo tendencies before, as he liked me and was a normal boy. Most people think, he was brainwashed by woke climate in such art schools and that becoming gay can tremendously help his career.

Lil nas did exactly that. He was hip hop artist and ending up coming out as gay

Now he is one of the most popular hip hop artist

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 03:10 PM
I don't know who Peter Tatchell is, but I will take your word for it.

Very prominent LGBT rights activist, originally from Australia but living in Britain for several decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxbNfpuQ5-U&pp=ygUOcGV0ZXIgdGF0Y2hlbGw%3D

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-13-2024, 03:11 PM
Those types are like vegans who feel they have to tell everyone about their dietary habits, unsolicited. Their whole life circulates around their sexual orientation/dietary habits/drugs.

I don't know if this analogy was made because I was vegan for a few years. I don't think so, but if it was, I don't think I've ever been annoying about it or tried to convert anyone, apart from having made a thread on TA about veganism at the time and even so there is a difference between an online thread and being an activist in real life.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:12 PM
@Rajputprincess at what age did you found out you were lesbian? or started having girl crushes?

I always have thought that women are really beautiful.

In my class for example. I didn't thought that any guy was cute. But thought that some women were cute.

That's how you come to that conclusion. If you find women beautiful but not men. Then you probably like women

Laredo
03-13-2024, 03:13 PM
Yes. I'm weird that way.

Why weird? I honestly don't like how society put labels we humans are no different from animals sexuality speaking we just tend to have a more comprehensive brain that's all...

If you think you are weird I'm probably weirder than you I get turn on by seeing two macho tomboy lesbians making out but that doesn't mean I'm into lesbians.


Not sure If I'm making sense or you understand what I mean.

Laredo
03-13-2024, 03:17 PM
I always have thought that women are really beautiful.

In my class for example. I didn't thought that any guy was cute. But thought that some women were cute.

That's how you come to that conclusion. If you find women beautiful but not men. Then you probably like women

I remembered I had girl crushes In elementary but once I started reaching around 11 my crushes turn out to be guys until this day I think handsome men are the most beautiful thing xD

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:22 PM
I remembered I had girl crushes In elementary but once I started reaching around 11 my crushes turn out to be guys until this day I think handsome men are the most beautiful thing xD

What kind of animal do you find beautiful

For example I assume that if you are into masculinity then you would like someone like lion tiger?

I prefer cute animal like rabbit. More feminine animal
. Since they are extremely cute

Laredo
03-13-2024, 03:26 PM
What kind of animal do you find beautiful

For example I assume that if you are into masculinity then you would like someone like lion tiger?

I prefer cute animal like rabbit. More feminine animal
. Since they are extremely cute

I find black Jaguars cute because I feel some how reflects my personality from a solitary perspective. Not sure If you remembered my previous Jessica Rabbit black Gothic style avatar I also felt affiliated with the character.

Black Is my favorite color.

Kazimiera
03-13-2024, 03:31 PM
I don't know if this analogy was made because I was vegan for a few years. I don't think so, but if it was, I don't think I've ever been annoying about it or tried to convert anyone, apart from having made a thread on TA about veganism at the time and even so there is a difference between an online thread and being an activist in real life.

As I posted my reply I remembered that you are/were vegan, but I was definitely not referring to you. I was referring more to the types who tell you within 5 minutes of meeting them how fantastic veganism is and how they are saving the world. The conversation goes like this:

Me: Hi! I'm Kazimiera. How are you today?
Them: I'm having such a bad day because of all the animals being killed.
Me: ???
Them: I'm vegan and I walked past the meat section in the supermarket and became immediately depressed. But I also smoke weed, so I had a joint and felt much better afterwards.

I asked you how you about your day and within two minutes I know you're vegan and smoke weed. WTF?


Why weird? I honestly don't like how society put labels we humans are no different from animals sexuality speaking we just tend to have a more comprehensive brain that's all...

If you think you are weird I'm probably weirder than you I get turn on by seeing two macho tomboy lesbians making out but that doesn't mean I'm into lesbians.

Not sure If I'm making sense or you understand what I mean.

I understand.

alnortedelsur
03-13-2024, 03:37 PM
How retarded and ridiculous are all those people who get into a deviant and degenerate path just because they find it "cool" and "trendy".

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:39 PM
I find black Jaguars cute because I feel some how reflects my personality from a solitary perspective. Not sure If you remembered my previous Jessica Rabbit black Gothic style avatar I also felt affiliated with the character.

Black Is my favorite color.

I also really like black color. It look very cool

Do you find video game and anime character attractive?
I personally find video game and anime character very cute.

Neon. Filipino agent from Valorant. Very cute127620

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:41 PM
How retarded and ridiculous are all those people who get into a deviant and degenerate path just because they find it "cool" and "trendy".

Well some people are naturally LGBTQ.

But online you really meet people who commit crime. So people see them as cool

They post prove online too.

They want to be seen as thug dudes. Evil bad boy or badass bitch

People really want to be seen as cool

Laredo
03-13-2024, 03:45 PM
I also really like black color. It look very cool

Do you find video game and anime character attractive?
I personally find video game and anime character very cute.

Neon. Filipino agent from Valorant. Very cute127620

Nope Im not into anime or furries or anything like that. I just like grown men that's all.

With women it's a hit or miss I'm probably 30% heterosexual though.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 03:47 PM
I remember this badass bitch. She used to smuggle drugs on discord server
She was really popular. Because of her bad girl persona

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-13-2024, 03:56 PM
Well some people are naturally LGBTQ.

But online you really meet people who commit crime. So people see them as cool

They post prove online too.

They want to be seen as thug dudes. Evil bad boy or badass bitch

People really want to be seen as cool

It's not the same. Coming out as gay is something that most men interpret as something that is emasculating and shameful (I'm not saying it's what i think or not but it's the reality) therefore the opposite of cool. "You heard the last one, João has come out of the closet and is now gay. Is that so? That's so cool!" - said no man ever that I am aware of. In Portugal, most of the gay television presenters (and there are many) are exclusively in programs that have a majority female audience, because women are usually more receptive to them whereas most men don't relate to them. Some women (not all) find it fascinating, funny or appealing to see a man full of feminine tics, there is probably some appeal in the eccentricity, but I wouldn't say they find them cool because of their sexual choice.

Laredo
03-13-2024, 04:03 PM
It's not the same. Coming out as gay is something that most men interpret as something that is emasculating and shameful (I'm not saying it's what i think or not but it's the reality) therefore the opposite of cool. "You heard the last one, João has come out of the closet and is now gay. Is that so? That's so cool!" - said no man ever that I am aware of. In Portugal, most of the gay television presenters (and there are many) are exclusively in programs that have a majority female audience, because women are usually more receptive to them whereas most men don't relate to them. Some women (not all) find it fascinating, funny or appealing to see a man full of feminine tics, there is probably some appeal in the eccentricity, but I wouldn't say they find them cool because of their sexual choice.

I strongly suspect this stereotype of gay men being femenine It's nothing but a homophobic agenda spread that all homosexual men are like that.

If society wasn't so harsh to gay men I guarantee that numbers of openly gay men will multiple.

In my personal case for example no one In real suspect I'm into guys NO ONE they all assumed I'm some sort of womanizer player.

alnortedelsur
03-13-2024, 04:08 PM
Well some people are naturally LGBTQ.

But online you really meet people who commit crime. So people see them as cool

They post prove online too.

They want to be seen as thug dudes. Evil bad boy or badass bitch

People really want to be seen as cool

Of course I only talk about those who aren't "naturally" LGBTQ but just go along on becoming or posing as one, just to look "cool" because is trendy.

Don't you agree that such people is so ridiculous, frivolous and retarded?

Tooting Carmen
03-13-2024, 04:10 PM
Of course I only talk about those who aren't "naturally" LGBTQ but just go along on becoming or posing as one, just to look "cool" because is trendy.

Don't you agree that such people is so ridiculous, frivolous and retarded?

Such people exist, but they are very rare. (This being said, even in the porn industry there are so-called "Gay For Pay" actors, though I don't believe for one moment that those actors aren't actually bisexual).

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-13-2024, 04:23 PM
I strongly suspect this stereotype of gay men being femenine It's nothing but a homophobic agenda spread that all homosexual men are like that.

If society wasn't so harsh to gay men I guarantee that numbers of openly gay men will multiple.

In my personal case for example no one In real suspect I'm into guys NO ONE they all assumed I'm some sort of womanizer player.

You are trying to bash or distance yourself from the so called feminine gays but on the other hand you don't realize that you are in most people's eyes not any different. If you publicly say to wear or buy thongs (as you mentioned recently) most men will find that feminine or emasculate and therefore not any different from what most people envision as the stereotypical gay man. Most people who gravitated or actively showed interest in that thread were also women; like I said women are generally more likely to find that erratic and feminine behavior in males rather eccentric and funny because you are talking about something they can somewhat relate to, while most men will cringe. Also if being gay was cool or popular you would have come out already in real life. Society will always be harsher towards any behavior that deviates from the norms of a said society.

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 04:25 PM
I strongly suspect this stereotype of gay men being femenine It's nothing but a homophobic agenda spread that all homosexual men are like that.

If society wasn't so harsh to gay men I guarantee that numbers of openly gay men will multiple.

In my personal case for example no one In real suspect I'm into guys NO ONE they all assumed I'm some sort of womanizer player.

Dude do you have watched lil nas?

He used to act cool in his music video in a masculine way. Now he act cool in flamboyant way

Straight male artist start acting feminine after coming out as a gay

There are actually proof that lil nas is straight. He is coming out as gay for popularity and dollar.

Since he is one of the most famous dude in hip hop

There is no genre as masculine as hip hop.

Imagine a popular hip hop artist coming out as gay. His predominantly male fans who thought that he was cool. Would copy his new gay flamboyant style

Because that is new cool
It is not homophobic but leftist agenda

rajputprincess
03-13-2024, 04:26 PM
Just follow hip hop lmao


Hip hops fans are very homophobic too

There favs are coming out as gay

tropicalslavic
03-13-2024, 04:28 PM
Duh?

Like does this even need to be asked?

CosmoLady
03-13-2024, 05:35 PM
Yes of course there is a social contagion aspect to LGBTQ.

Only 2% of baby boomers identify as LGBTQ,
compared to 4% of Gen X, 8% of Gen Y, and 20% of Gen Z, and 40% of Brown University students.

This tells me that the natural rate of homosexuality in a given population is in the low single digits.

Everything else is due to liberal environment/upbringing, family/social dysfunction (which is increasing),
mass media, social media, social contagion, peer pressure, mass formation.

After "sex education" lessons in elementary school, 2/3 of the class "identifies" as LGBTQ.
Woke moms with mental illness also strongly encourage or coerce their kids to be trans or queer/nonbinary.
This is what is happening in Weimar America.

I think that the rapid increase of LGBTQ is both heavily promoted by the media/woke regime,
and is also occurring as a result of unhelpful long-term social trends.

tropicalslavic
03-13-2024, 05:42 PM
Yes of course there is a social contagion aspect to LGBTQ.

Only 2% of baby boomers identify as LGBTQ,
compared to 4% of Gen X, 8% of Gen Y, and 20% of Gen Z, and 40% of Brown University students.

This tells me that the natural rate of homosexuality in a given population is in the low single digits.

Everything else is due to liberal environment/upbringing, family/social dysfunction (which is increasing),
mass media, social media, social contagion.

After "sex education" lessons in elementary school, 2/3 of the class "identifies" as LGBTQ.
This is what is happening in Weimar America.

I think that the rapid increase of LGBTQ is both heavily promoted by the media/woke regime,
and is also occurring as a result of unhelpful long-term social trends.

A lot of the time with older generations even if they felt some homosexual inclination they weren't going to openly identify with it. I know for a fact one of my family members was a closeted gay in a dysfunctional straight marriage until he died. So the numbers are probably somewhere between what the boomers are and what young people today are.

CosmoLady
03-14-2024, 12:37 AM
A lot of the time with older generations even if they felt some homosexual inclination they weren't going to openly identify with it. I know for a fact one of my family members was a closeted gay in a dysfunctional straight marriage until he died. So the numbers are probably somewhere between what the boomers are and what young people today are.
Sure, in conservative or "anti-gay" societies that is certainly the case.

But the Anglo and Nordic world has been very open, liberal and liberated for a long time.
Baby boomers in these countries have no problem identifying their sexual orientation on surveys.
The baby boomers should be most libertine generation (in the West), they lived through the urban gay decadence of the 1970s.

How open they are in everyday life, or who they are married to, or how happy they are, is another story.
Even today, as many gays/lesbians marry an opposite-sex partner as a same-sex partner,
suggesting that this choice is practical/convenient more than anything else.

I think that the Gen X percent (4%) is the highest natural percent gay for the West due to the most liberal circumstances.
Gen X is the most sexually active, the least inhibited socially, and are products of an unusually liberal time.
Subsequent generations have even more permissive sexual attitudes,
but Gen Y onward has been having less and less sex than previous generations,
while the percent of LGBT keeps increasing quickly, strongly suggesting media contagion, not authentic experience.

Tooting Carmen
03-14-2024, 12:44 AM
But the Anglo and Nordic world has been very open, liberal and liberated for a long time.
Baby boomers in these countries have no problem identifying their sexual orientation on surveys.
The baby boomers should be most libertine generation (in the West), they lived through the urban gay decadence of the 1970s.

Yes and no. This depends on what you mean by "a long time". As counterintuitive as it might seem, countries like France, Italy and even Brazil and Argentina all legalised homosexuality several decades before most Anglophone countries did. (Not even Mussolini, Vichy, Castelo Branco or Videla recriminalised it). Of particular note is how Scotland and both parts of Ireland did not legalise it until well into the 1980's. (Had Wales maintained its own legal system, chances are it would have taken that long here too).

CosmoLady
03-14-2024, 12:53 AM
Yes and no. This depends on what you mean by "a long time". As counterintuitive as it might seem, countries like France, Italy and even Brazil and Argentina all legalised homosexuality several decades before most Anglophone countries did. (Not even Mussolini, Vichy, Castelo Branco or Videla recriminalised it). Of particular note is how Scotland and both parts of Ireland did not legalise it until well into the 1980's. (Had Wales maintained its own legal system, chances are it would have taken that long here too).
Yes I meant Anglo and Nordic or Germanic countries, I don't know about the Latin countries.

Ireland is Catholic and was unusually traditional, I don't know how the society was in Scotland.

Tooting Carmen
03-14-2024, 01:02 AM
Yes I meant Anglo and Nordic or Germanic countries, I don't know about the Latin countries.

That's actually my point too: despite stereotypes to the contrary, for a long time Latin countries were sexually more liberal in many ways than Anglo/Germanic ones.


Ireland is Catholic and was unusually traditional, I don't know how the society was in Scotland.

Scotland was, and in some ways still is, very Presbyterian.

CosmoLady
03-14-2024, 02:12 AM
Scotland was, and in some ways still is, very Presbyterian.
This is Calvinist right? Were the Scots more or less religious than the Dutch?

Tooting Carmen
03-14-2024, 02:30 AM
This is Calvinist right?

Yes. You can see aspects of it even today, such as the SNP being on the vanguard of policies like minimum alcohol pricing. (And note how, when Nicola Sturgeon wanted to introduce gender self-ID, that was when the Scottish people truly had had enough).


Were the Scots more or less religious than the Dutch?

Nowadays about the same, not sure about the past.